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God is a sinner cause he gambled in the story of Job, and they say gambling is a sin...

I pity you because you haven't gotten to know who God really is.

Originally posted by AdventChild
God is a sinner cause he gambled in the story of Job, and they say gambling is a sin...

He didn't Gamble he tested, just like he tests you and I...

God would never gamble with his own............

^Wow, it seems that now-a-days you seem to be agreeing with me more than you are arguing. Could this be a sign shock?!? Where's Finiti?!!?!

God would never send His own off...especially if his own are parts of him.

Gambling is not a sin, just a good way to lose your money.

hmm Im gonna use that excuse too, no I dont gamble on the games I just test if my bets are right.

god gambled in the story of Noah, did god provide life rafts what if the arc did a titanic?

God also killed people.

Originally posted by BackFire
God also killed people.

Only if the stories true..

well they believe in the bible, so according to the faithful god killed people

Originally posted by finti
hmm Im gonna use that excuse too, no I dont gamble on the games I just test if my bets are right.

god gambled in the story of Noah, did god provide life rafts what if the arc did a titanic?

God wouln't have allowed it...

Originally posted by finti
well they believe in the bible, so according to the faithful god killed people

Even if they were already dead?

in the flood story what do you think killed the people left on earth, since Noah seems to be the only one in the world with a boat

Originally posted by PrinceofBlades
He didn't Gamble he tested, just like he tests you and I...

He tested?

Thats funney god knows everything that will happen and that has happend he wouldin't need to test someone. he would know what is going to happen

Originally posted by XxoooxX
He tested?

Thats funney god knows everything that will happen and that has happend he wouldin't need to test someone. he would know what is going to happen
Exactly, but God was showing Satan how he (Satan) could do anything to Job and Job would not turn against God.

Maybe it's all just a conspiracy theory....Wheres Deano?

Originally posted by FeceMan
Exactly, but God was showing Satan how he (Satan) could do anything to Job and Job would not turn against God.

O so, God and the devil where haveing a contest to see who he would belive in

Originally posted by XxoooxX
O so, God and the devil where haveing a contest to see who he would belive in
Something along those lines. Except Job believed in both...

Originally posted by XxoooxX
He tested?

Thats funney god knows everything that will happen and that has happend he wouldin't need to test someone. he would know what is going to happen

He doesn't know everything in the sense that if he did we would be living faith. But if we are superior to the animals in the field of free will, than Fate/Destiny would be contradictary to this fact. Therefore it is more accurate to say that God knows the "consequences of our actions" and not "everything"...

Originally posted by PrinceofBlades
He doesn't know everything in the sense that if he did we would be living faith. But if we are superior to the animals in the field of free will, than Fate/Destiny would be contradictary to this fact. Therefore it is more accurate to say that God knows the "consequences of our actions" and not "everything"...

But in the bible it says GOD KNows all and everything

And everythihng that will happen

Prove it...

you prove it

so much for an omnipotent god then

Semi-omnipotent then

not even omnipresent either, guess this god cant be in the presence of evil

Originally posted by finti
in the flood story what do you think killed the people left on earth, since Noah seems to be the only one in the world with a boat
God did give them warning. The people were the fools.

Originally posted by finti
not even omnipresent either, guess this god cant be in the presence of evil
You have it wrong once more. Evil cannot be in God's presence unless he choses to allow it. Besides omnipresent means to be everywhere at any given time.

Originally posted by finti
so much for an omnipotent god then

He chooses not to know, he gave us free will. And can easily take it away...

Originally posted by sonnet
You have it wrong once more. Evil cannot be in God's presence unless he choses to allow it. Besides omnipresent means to be everywhere at any given time.

David in the Psalms said that there is no where that God is not....So, god would have to be where evil is, where hell is...

yeah and there were no boats around whatsoever, yeah right

yeah and presence of evil is anyplace so if it means everywhere at any time anyplace is part of that. Oh and the evil can not be in the presence of god unless god choses to allow it is a nice way of avoiding the problem at hand, just like the many cases they try to squirm whenever a problem occures.

Originally posted by finti
yeah and there were no boats around whatsoever, yeah right



The warning was for them to turn away from their evil ways. He would not have sent the flood but they chose to mock God and Noah.

still you believe that no one else had a boat.

Also anyone can go from "evil" to non "evil" thoughts, including Christians, and unless god pops in and out, much like a tissue box, He remains connected to the individuals...So, God is part or dwelling with evil....

Originally posted by debbiejo
Maybe it's all just a conspiracy theory....Wheres Deano? The story of Job may or may not be literal but anyway God had given Adam dominion over the fish of the sea, the fowl of the air and over every living creature, when he sinned he lost it. When Adam sinned he gave everything that God had given to him to the devil. I don't think God gave the devil permission as much as said all he has is in your hands because it was. I think this story is like a parable, it caqn be compared to the prodigal son in the new testament because Job did offer sacrifices he said it may be that my sons have sinned which indicates unbelief. Jobs lack of belief opened the door for the devil and the rest of the story is about what happened because Job sinned.

whales aint fish though

That's where they get "A whale of a tale."

Originally posted by markie
The story of Job may or may not be literal but anyway God had given Adam dominion over the fish of the sea, the fowl of the air and over every living creature, when he sinned he lost it. When Adam sinned he gave everything that God had given to him to the devil. I don't think God gave the devil permission as much as said all he has is in your hands because it was. I think this story is like a parable, it caqn be compared to the prodigal son in the new testament because Job did offer sacrifices he said it may be that my sons have sinned which indicates unbelief. Jobs lack of belief opened the door for the devil and the rest of the story is about what happened because Job sinned.
God isn't love.....
Love is affection towards another with great feeling...

Love is also the freedom to be who you are....That's why God would never punish anybody......Why would He give us free will only to punish us for using it.

Why on earth do you call that grumbing?jm

god doesn't sin

Originally posted by majjacet
god doesn't sin

So there is something God can not do?

he can but he doesn't

Originally posted by majjacet
he can but he doesn't

How do you know?

cuz thats what i believe

Originally posted by majjacet
cuz thats what i believe
Thank you..

So many have said what they believe as if it was fact. Fact and truth are not the same thing. This miss statement by many, leads to misunderstandings. I have started to write "I believe" when I can not prove something, or have no need to prove something.

so how do u kno the facts

Originally posted by majjacet
so how do u kno the facts

I just realized while talking to you that I also misstated; I believe this is heaven.


So, how do I know what is a fact? A fact is simple, if we can test something many time and always get the same result, then we can be sure that it's a fact. But the bigger topics can never be proven. Why do you need too?

what you believe and the share fact of things are tow completely different scenarios

God didnt gamble in the story of Job. It was the people on the ship who gambled.