superman prime vs. thanos

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WOLVERINEFAN
who would win?

zachrivard
prime would win
he is too powerful
he another one of DC's uber powerful charecters

WOLVERINEFAN
how would he win?

Superherovandal
You know how Supes gets more powerful when he gets near the sun? Well Superman Prime mastered all of his abilities got new ones went to other dimensions came back and then slept in the core of the Sun for over 15,000 years. He is way beyond Thanos.

WOLVERINEFAN
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Height: 6 ft. 7 in.
Weight: 985 lbs.
Eyes: Red
Hair: None
Skin: Grey-purple

Strength Level: The exact extent of Thanos's physical strength is not known, but he was able to engage both the Thing and Thor in hand-to-hand combat simultaneously for an extended period of time and hold his own. Presumably, then, Thanos possessed at least Class 100 strength, enabling him to lift (press) over 100 tons.

Known Superhuman Powers: Thanos possessed incalculable superhuman power. By far the most powerful of the Titanian Eternals, Thanos was a mutant whose massive, heavy-bided body was born with the capacity to synthesize cosmic energy for certain personal uses. (This is a trait that Thanos shared with his father Alars and all Earthborn Eternals but not with Titan-born Eternals. Through still unknown bionic amplification, Thanos increased his physical strength and resilience to levels surpassing even the strongest of the Earth Eternals. Through meditation and certain mystical techniques, Thanos augmented his power in still other ways, enabling him to tap, transform, and direct vast quantities of cosmic energy for destructive force. His skin in nearly invulnerable, particularly against heat, cold, electricity, radiation, toxins, aging, and disease, and he can survive indefinitely without food or water even before his "curse" from Death left him immortal, unable to die. His mind is also invulnerable to most forms of psychic attack, and can project a psionic blast of energy as well as blasts of plasma/cosmic energy from his eyes and hands. He usually employs a hovering chair with additional offensive weapons and the ability to teleport fantastic distances. Deadliest of all Thanos's attributes, perhaps, was his mind, whose superhuman level of intellect was totally dedicated to the annihilation of life."

seems pretty powerful

Superherovandal
ABILITIES AND EQUIPMENT

SUPERMAN PRIME

Kal-El at his height as Superman in the twentieth and twenty first centuries was one of the most powerful of the founding superheroes. Like all Kryptonians exposed to a yellow sun his cells became living solar batteries absorbing solar energy and literally supercharging every natural physical ability he possessed. He possessed vast super strength, was nigh invulnerable to anything short of a nuclear blast and possessed the ability to fly by shear effort of will. This Kryptonian powers also granted him numerous sensory abilities including perception of the vast majority of the EM spectrum, telescopic vision and super hearing. At will he could also expel stored solar energy out of his eyes as a form of "heat ray". His only vulnerabilities were the radioactive mineral Kryptonite and a susceptibility to magical influence.

It is not recorded what happened to Superman Prime during his long exile from Earth, but it is believed that he learned much about himself and his powers. While the powers of the Superman Dynasty evolved over the years Superman Prime did not gain the extra mental powers or sensory abilities obtained by the union with the Fifth Dimension. Upon his return it became evident that he had certainly changed becoming almost god like in terms of power. There is evidence for this in his resurrection of Lois Lane (with help from Lzyxm Ltpkz) and his covenant with the Superman Dynasty. The Superman Prime that appeared out of the sun in the year 85,271 is certainly the post powerful member of the Superman Dynasty ever seen and it is quite conceivable that he is now a New God despite his returned humanity. It should be also noted that Superman Prime is currently in possession of the last of the Green Lantern power rings.

He is quite powerful.

ZephroCarnelian
Yes.

Quite powerful! stick out tongue

I just wish people would stop going on about his sword - they're discrediting someone who should be a respected future hero lol.

But yeah - he's got the power to take on anyone in my humble opinion. With or without a sword, lol.

Jack Daniels
consider superman prime a class 1,000,000 strength....he cannot be touched...way way out of thanos league....supes could hold his own occasionally with darkseid way back in the day when he was still new to his powers and thanos is a cheap (but a tad more powerful) copy of darkseid....combine galactus thanos with the eterinity gems together they may be able to tickle prime...lol...they just made him out to be ridiculously powerful....I would have enjoyed a debate of prime vs galactus better......

ZephroCarnelian
We don't know enough about Prime to state whether he could take Big G.

I think he is above physical force though.

Nothing that uses energy or physical attacks would hurt him, at least that's what you'd expect.

However - something that can maipulate reality, someone like Big G - I wouldn't every say Prime could beat him, not until proof came out that he could.

Otherwise people'd just shout you down, lol.

supremthor
how about this info i found in another web.

>Superman of the 853rd Century was the ages-old descendant of the modern Superman. His Kryptonian DNA -- though diluted through centuries of inter-species breeding -- blessed him with incredible Kryptonian-derived powers; today's Superman's powers . . . taken to the Nth degree.
>These powers were positively amended by centuries of evolution as well as the Superman Dynasty's inter-breeding with 5th Dimension (magic) royalty and the Solaris-facilitated inheritance of the "powers of the Heisenberg Principle" (awesome quantum powers).
>Upon returning from thousands of years' exile in deep space, our Superman -- now known as Superman Prime -- returned with powers and abilities gleaned "from beyond space and time" and established a covenant with his children: in return for their perpetual allegiance to Superman's moral code and the "never ending battle," Superman Prime would empower them with "powers far beyond those possessed by any metahuman" in history. To administer these powers to his descendants, Superman transformed Earth's star into the Super Sun (which was so hot not even our Superman could not approach it!) and bequeated his gifts via amped-up cosmic radiation. Pleased with the formation of this covenant, Superman retreated into solar hibernation -- entrusting the Universe to his dynasty's care.
>What powers did Superman 853 and (presumably) his cousins possess? The short answer? All of them.
>For now, let's just say that he was powerful enough to halt billions of rocketing stars and planets -- merely by looking at them!

And yet here's more:
>Apparently, he had become a matter/energy/reality manipulator of the highest order.
>Then he went into hibernation in the core of the sun for 15,000 years. He transformed the sun into the "Supersun" and he basically BECAME the sun, much like the Skyfather of Krypton, Rao. (Superman basically became Rao the Skyfather, as I see it.)
>From his solar fortress of solitude, he administered powers "from the edge of time and space" to his descendants so long as they pledged to serve Earth. These powers put them beyond any metahuman ever in the DCU. Besides Superman Prime granting his descendants the full package of Superman's super-powers (and at Pre Crisis level, to boot: extinguishing a red giant star with the superbreath, igniting stars with heat vision, "more powerful than the gravity from a black hole", superintelligence, FTL speed, etc.), his descendants also enjoyed a slew of additional powers, including but not limited to: "force vision", super-telekinesis, super-ESP, as well as undisclosed 5th dimensional magic powers.
>All of these vast abilities were administered to his descendants by the Superman Prime from his solar fortress.
>Captain Kal estimated that as he was the power source for his descendants, the Superman Prime probably enjoyed a power level 10x that of his descendants.
>In the year 853,000, the Superman Prime left his solar fortress, gained the last Green Lantern ring, and apparently used his matter/energy/reality warping abilities to reconfigure the "it only works for Kyle Ryner" mechanism of the ring.
>Superman Prime then resurrected Lois Lane as a cosmic being like himself ; created a new planet ; and resurrected from the dead a population of 10 million Kryptonians who had been dead 853,000 years.
>I would guess his powers were not limited to superstrength/flight/heat vison etc., but rather he was transformed into a Dr.Solar/Dr. Manhattan/Molecule Man/-type who could "do anything" with his matter/energy/reality manipulation abilities.
>He could molecularly reconstruct matter, such as the sun, as well as organic matter, such as his descendants; and probably manipulate space/time as when he brought back the "souls" fo his long dead ancestors and wife.
Here's some info. on Superman of the 853rd Century:
>His DNA was no longer recognizably Kryptonian...so he was either not vulnerable to Kryptonite or that vulnerability was greatly reduced.
>And magic? While magic was a great foil for Pre Crisis Superman, the Superman descendant of the 853rd Century had extra magical powers thrown in because one of his ancestors was the Empress of the 5th dimension and thus more powerful than Mxyzptlk.
>While the extent of his magical prowess was undisclosed, we know he gained 8 entirely new senses (added to Superman's already incredible senses) by the addition of 5-D blood.
>He also demonstrated super-ESP.
>In addition to the full complement of "normal" Superman powers, and whatever 5-D magical powers he had, he also demonstrated: "force-vison", and "super-telekinesis".
>So, Kryptonite and magic no longer posed any challenge for the Superman of the 853rd Century. Did he have ANY weaknesses?
>Yes, one Achilles' heel: his power was entirely administered by the Super-sun, the Superman Prime of the 853rd Century. Separated from it his powers would dwindle rapidly.
>Superman of the 853rd Century was the second most powerful Superman ever, after the Superman Prime of course who was the administrator of power for the entire Superman dynasty.
So what can we conclude? Not sure, but given what SP's descendants could do, and that SP was the source of those powers, I wouldn't exactly chalk up a victory for The Keeper with certainty. SP sounds like a being that could easily defeat a celestial, and even at Galactus' peak, he has a hard time defeating even one of those suckers.

Superherovandal
no wait a second he has no magic powers and it is the decendants that would lose their powers if they were not by the Super-Sun not Prime.

EvilCap America
As a hardcore DBZ fan that belives nobody in comics could beat most of the important DBZ characters i just have to say

Superman Prime could eat Goku eek!

supremthor
lol

supremthor
Originally posted by Superherovandal
no wait a second he has no magic powers and it is the decendants that would lose their powers if they were not by the Super-Sun not Prime.

superman 853=superman one million is the one with magic powers and shit

Superherovandal
OHH!! I thought he was talking about Prime.

supremthor
na he gets powers from prime but his the one with the blood of almost every powerful race in the dcu

FieryBalrog
prime himself doesnt have 5th dimensional imp blood though. his descendants do.


He'd lose to high-level cosmics as far as I know, but he'd beat Thanos unless of course Thanos had the HOTU.

8bitChris
Give Thanos some prep time and he can win.

Superherovandal
no he can't without the HOTU or the IG. cause with those it is never fair. What could Thanos possibly do to Superman Prime. No K-nite to use on him.

8bitChris
Thanos has taken over the universe three times. The only reason he ever loses the Universe is because he sabotages himself subconsciously (At least that is how Surfer explains it.) He is the most brilliant mind in the Universe. If there is a way to beat Superman Prime he will find it and he will do it.

Taking over the Universe > Beating Superman Prime

EvilCap America
Originally posted by Superherovandal
no he can't without the HOTU or the IG. cause with those it is never fair. What could Thanos possibly do to Superman Prime. No K-nite to use on him.

Id have to question if even Kryptonites effectiveness.KC Superman was supposed to be immune to its effects and id gues that Prime Superman wouldnt bat an enemy at it.Even then he still has a GL Ring to keep him protected as well

hulkrulz
Lets see superman prime would not hvae a chance against a fully powered Galactus. People overestimate superman. Galactus at full power could annihilate the celstials. Thanos with his current powers would definately have a chance, hell Hulk during the secret wars was in class100,000,000,000 when he lifted up that 150 bilion mountain over his head and onto his back. Thanos prolly wins 4.10

breeze85
Planets were like toys for the pre-crisis Superman. Prime is a way beyond that. Do the math. Sorry, but Hulk's strength isn't ANYWHERE near that of Superman Prime.

How about Thanos then. Without prep he is dead in an instant. With prep yea, I think he got a decent chance.

Juntai
Originally posted by hulkrulz
Lets see superman prime would not hvae a chance against a fully powered Galactus. People overestimate superman. Galactus at full power could annihilate the celstials. Thanos with his current powers would definately have a chance, hell Hulk during the secret wars was in class100,000,000,000 when he lifted up that 150 bilion mountain over his head and onto his back. Thanos prolly wins 4.10 wtf?

Galan777
Prime ftw

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