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Doc Samson... also a child of the Gamma Radiation .... he has the same power than a calm hulk... but it does not increase with his anger


most of his matches against hulk.... Samson lost... perhaps all of them.. i dont know exactly

and i dont really see a chance for him to beat the prince of power... Hercules... who is very close to the Hulk.. even a angry Hulk i think

also Herc is too much experienced in hand to hand combat....

Herc would win i think

Hercules easily

no .. not easily.. but Herc would win ..yep

Eassily Very easily

why you believe that ... has they fought in the past ?

No but Samson loses to people like Woodgod easily

there are often very bad written fights... imagine... Spiderman won over Fireloard ... and why Doc Samson often fight the Hulk.. one on one

why Thing won over The Asgardian Destroyer

why Wolverine won over Hulk

... come on.... Herc would win... but not quite so easily you believe

Dammit, Wolverine has a chance against Hulk. I say it time and time again--even the guy who wrote the "first" Hulk/Wolvie fight said it.

Adamantium can cut Hulk no matter how strong he gets, and Wolverine is faster than him (not to mention 1000 times better at h2h) so he can get his licks in and back off--but if Hulk EVER lays hands on him he's ****ed. The guy had a quote defending Wolvie and the fight, but I'm too lazy to get my Hardcover and post it.

Anyways...Beta, if you already said you don't see Samson winning this--why make the topic? No offense, but Samson is a gamma powered jobber--Herc would crush him.

Now, if it was the nerfed "my daddy don't love me no mo'!" Herc, Samson would have a chance against him--but I STILL say Herc would whoop him.

Verily...

in his best days.. ANYBODY has a change against a stronger one.... and what is wrong with this topic ? ... come on guy... keep cool

hercules. isnt he half-god?

Originally posted by Betageuze
in his best days.. ANYBODY has a change against a stronger one.... and what is wrong with this topic ? ... come on guy... keep cool

LMAO! I SAID no offence...I was just wondering why you'd post a topic after admitting that one of the guys would get thrashed by the other. I wasn't even really pressing it, just asking a question, seems like you need to take your own advice, no?

The best "dream" matches are when the combatants are "equal" in speed/strength/etc.

It makes for interesting debate, unlike "Pre Crisis Superman vs. FF".

Yeah, you're right everyone has thier "on" and "off" days--but it doesn't matter in this fight. You pit someone who is an average at best h2h fighter, with limited strength against a guy who's faster, more skilled, and a LOT stronger than him--it's a squash.

Like it was said before Hulk has taken Samson "into the showers" a ton of times, Samson gets thrashed by people that Herc would pound on. It's no contest. I said if it was demi god Herc then it would've been a more interesting bout, but that's it.

Anyways...Herc wins 9/10--he'll let Samson get one so he doesn't feel guilty about picking on someone a couple levels below him.

I think hercules is mostlikely to win even if it was demi god but it wouldnt be easy. Is samsons strength dependant on the length of his hair if it is herc could just rip out his hair. Also if the hair thing is true then wouldnt an amalgam of him and medusa be awsome he could just grow stronger by growing his hair.

I have to go with Hercules.

...this is DOC Samson, not the biblical one. This one is just a therapist that lucked into superpowers.

If it wasn't for his strength, he'd suck at fighting.

Originally posted by DrDoom
...this is DOC Samson, not the biblical one. This one is just a therapist that lucked into superpowers.

If it wasn't for his strength, he'd suck at fighting.

Lol I know its not the biblical one but I just checked the handbook and I was right it said under weaknesses his strength is directly proportional to the length of his hair. So an amalgam of him and medusa would be awsome.

How strong is Doc Samson?

Originally posted by life is cruell
Lol I know its not the biblical one but I just checked the handbook and I was right it said under weaknesses his strength is directly proportional to the length of his hair. So an amalgam of him and medusa would be awsome.

Ah, I see.

LOL so this Samson looses his strength with his hair too? WTF is Marvel smoking?! He's gamma powered, I mean...nevermind I'm not even gonna get into that.

I just find it funny that he becomes even more scrubbish when he loses his hair.

Crazy Marvel writers

Last I heard he was a class 70. But even though this is not the biblical version, I heard some strange rumor that the longer Doc Samsaon's hair grows, the stronger he gets. Similar to the Biblical version. Correct me if I'm wrong, It was just hearsay.

Oh, see... life is cruell read the handbook. It is true.

How strong is Doc Samson?

Back when he first popped out on the scene , he could lift somewhere in the vicinity of 70 tons. But I don't know how much stronger he's got since then. I presume he let his hair grow out, so some where in the vicinity of a class 90? Maybe low level class 100? Maybe. He did knock the Hulk once before. So you shouldn't underestimate him. I still think Herc will win though... After a tough battle.

Thanks.

Originally posted by Sentry
Back when he first popped out on the scene , he could lift somewhere in the vicinity of 70 tons. But I don't know how much stronger he's got since then. I presume he let his hair grow out, so some where in the vicinity of a class 90? Maybe low level class 100? Maybe. He did knock the Hulk once before. So you shouldn't underestimate him. I still think Herc will win though... After a tough battle.

No dude. When Doc Samson first arrived on the scene he was only Class 40. He's now Class 65.

herc is not all that, he should win, but remember sampson is a good fighter, and herc is not as strong as an enraged hulk sothere , herc ater a hard scrap

Its Samson not sampson.

Herc has fough against a Hulk that could be enraged before, not just Professor Hulk. he held his own.

Doc Samson is suposse to be Hulks calm level but hes not better than Herc at anything. In fact he only loks impressive at marvel when he fights the Hulk.


Before Hulk kicks his ass.

Its Samson not sampson.

Herc has fough against

hulk owns herc . samson is a good fighter, and very inteligent. a hard fight for the likes of herc

A very intelligent figther than other than fighthing Hulk has no rep.


"hulk owns herc"

A Mortal depowered one. Yes. He never owned regular Herc in his whole life so far.

Originally posted by Sentry
Last I heard he was a class 70. But even though this is not the biblical version, I heard some strange rumor that the longer Doc Samsaon's hair grows, the stronger he gets. Similar to the Biblical version. Correct me if I'm wrong, It was just hearsay.

It would have been a better post if he had the wit to say "hairsay", but its all a bit serious


Keep the faith

I'm Whirly!

What are you?

Hercules wins

We finally agree on something.

i think its too close. very similar strength levels,fighting goes to samson who is smarter

Herc wins

"i think its too close. very similar strength levels"

So you also think Samson has very similiar levels of strenght to the Hulk.

We learn a new thing everyday.

yup only hulk is potentially limitless and sampson is potentially not

Samson is class 100! twisted

<<i think its too close. very similar strength levels,fighting goes to samson who is smarter>>

OOOKKKKKKAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY . . . fighting goes to a psychoanalyst/doctor over an immortal who is 1000s of years old and has spent those thousands of years fighting against some of the most dangerous beings and creatures in the universe???????????? are you kidding?? samson may be able to rattle off gardner's seven intelligences or elaborate on the role of sexuality and personality as stated by freud, but none of that is gonna matter much when hercules is pummeling him to *&^%.

samson v hercules? close? are you kidding?

sampson is no push over , he is as strong and a better fighter as has more intellect to out do his opponent.learn my curtain wearing amigo

"sampson is no push over , he is as strong and a better fighter"

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<<he is as strong and a better fighter>>

as strong as who, hercules?? seriously, come on . . . IF sam's cl100 (huge IF) he's low level. herc is extremely HIGH level cl100. why is this even a debateable issue . . .

and a better fighter????? how in the blue hell would you be able to substantiate that claim?? seriously -- you are claiming a mortal doctor (who doesn't even LIKE fighting!!) is a better fighter than a greek god who has been fighting for 1000's of years and who's arch nemesis is the GOD OF WAR??? that's what you're saying? if that is indeed what you are claiming, (and perhaps i've misinterpretted -- i hope . . .) that claim says more about your opinion than you really want to voice . . .

and, uh, who wears a curtain . . .?

look hec is about in the same league as herc. its clear. herc is way below hulk. sampson is as strong as a normal hulk

The scans i posted doesnt show Samson the way you do.

How about get some?

SamSon not Sampson is as strong as a base calm level Hulk.

Heracles -never- fough a base calm level Hulk. He always fought either the Savage Hulk, Mindless Hulk, mind controlled Hulk or Onslaught Hulk.

And in those without counting the time he was depowered in half against Onslaught Hulk, he never lost a fight. He usually matched him.

SamSon has how many loses?

Start counting

Originally posted by olympian
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Samson's got guts I'll give him that. Keeps coming back for more whoopass. ( he may not be as bright as his psychology qualifications indicate)

Herc would make Samson his *****, until ...

"By Zeus tis not a lady but a man with girlie hair"

I imagine the shock in Herc`s face.

" Hades be damneth! Never have i been tricked in such a maner! Have a thee, girlie hair! "

- bitchslaps -

Samson sleeps.

sampson is tough enough to beat herc. also character wise hulk is unlimited in his strength and shoul annialate herc. as for sampson, hes a good match

he's not. really. you say hulk SHOULD annhilate him, except . . . HULK HAS NOT! please find one bio anywhere that says he can lift more than 70 tons, or show a good scann of him doing something to show he is even CLOSE to cl100. once again -- herc is high cl100 (why don't you believe that?) samson isn't even cl100. factor in samson is a doctor, and herc is a 1000s' year old warrior . . .

it's a complete mismatch.

Wouldnt call it a mismatch...But Herc would definitely win. Samson, at his height, was depicted a s a pretty tough bastard. He also has pretty considerable stamina and durability...powerful healing factor...he's pretty solid. However, unless u've got a "7" in strength, u really have no busines fighting Herc.

He can sure held his own. Like he does to Hulk.

Before he starts to go down.

it's a mismatch because the result is inevitable. herc wins 10/10. doc might get in some decent shots, but that is it. he loses every time.

ah i see

Hercules