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This is kinda of pointless....

the flash will never be able to damage the Hulk becuz he has no super strength

the hulk will never be able to see or catch the Flash

so its a draw

Hulk Smash puny red man

Im gonna have to say stalemate here.Flash couldnt be touched by hulk so long as he keeps his ehad in the fight but is likely to take anything Flash throws at him and nothing but one of those "Around the world" puunches is likely to hurt him.Problem is even if he nails him Hulk has regeneration that puts wolverine to shame

A fight between is likely to just be inconclusive with Flash dodging everything from fists to trees to shockwaves and knocking Hulk across the continent only to have him recover to fast to be put away

Hulk punches the Earth, and destroys it.

This is what I think would happen:


The Flash keeps dodging and running around the Hulk and after the Flash does this for about 5 times,the Hulk gets mad and grows and gets stronger.He then smashes the ground hard enough to make the Flash stop.After that he pounds the Flash into oblivion and then changes back into Bruce.

I was thinking that bruce would turn back and then flash would send him to space, thinking out the box try it, he has superspeed there fore hits super hard, not enough to beat the hulk, but enough to kill bruce.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
I was thinking that bruce would turn back and then flash would send him to space, thinking out the box try it, he has superspeed there fore hits super hard, not enough to beat the hulk, but enough to kill bruce.

Why would Hulk turn back into Bruce?

But the Flash won't even be able to get the Hulk to change back into Bruce.Just think about it,the Hulk will get annoyed if he can't hit the Flash eventually.And we all know that when the Hulk gets angrier he gets stronger.So if the Flash makes him angrier than he already is,there's no way of calming the Hulk down.

Flash does possess the speed to defeat the hulk even if he is nowhere Hulks strength.

But if Hulk gets ahold him which is possible but very unlikely then its bye bye for wally.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Flash does possess the speed to defeat the hulk even if he is nowhere Hulks strength.

But if Hulk gets ahold him which is possible but very unlikely then its bye bye for wally.

Flash's normal punches are doing nothing. Unless he does one of those high inertial mass punches, he won't be doing too much to Hulk.

Hulk can cause earthquakes, hurricane force winds, depending on the incarnation, he could destroy the Earth itself (or whatever planet they're fighting on.)

He would get mad, wally's best bet is not to aggravate the hulk, but be rid of him, one by leaving him, and hitting him when he comes back, or to get him to space.

Spiderman has hurt the hulk(a little), and wolverine did, I'm sure flash could fare better than you think.

Flash can tap into the speed force and go back in time to before Banner turned into Hulk and kill Banner.

Dont laugh cause its highly possible.

Theres no doubt that Flash has do do mass punches in order to at least move Hulk. Hulk couldnt do anything about that considering he wont even see Flash.

Flash could also throw things at Hulk, penetrating him like steel rods, rocks, etc.

But true enough, if Hulk is able to grab Flash somehow, its over for the scarlet speedster.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Flash can tap into the speed force and go back in time to before Banner turned into Hulk and kill Banner.

Dont laugh cause its highly possible.

Im not sure if Wally would be able to control which point in time hes going. I could be wrong though.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Theres no doubt that Flash has do do mass punches in order to at least move Hulk. Hulk couldnt do anything about that considering he wont even see Flash.

Flash could also throw things at Hulk, penetrating him like steel rods, rocks, etc.

But true enough, if Hulk is able to grab Flash somehow, its over for the scarlet speedster.

Steel rods? Rocks?

This is the Hulk we're talking about.

Hulk could simply punch the Earth and cause Wally to fall. No need for direct attack.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Flash can tap into the speed force and go back in time to before Banner turned into Hulk and kill Banner.

Dont laugh cause its highly possible.

Wally's time-traveling is really random. It's possible, though.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Steel rods? Rocks?

This is the Hulk we're talking about.

Hulk could simply punch the Earth and cause Wally to fall.

Yes. Steel rods, and rocks.

Flash throwing a steel pole at Hulk at 3,000 miles per second wont go through?

Hell, Wolverine was able to penetrate Hulk's skin.

Yes Hulk can punch the ground and make Wally fall, but problem is Hulk hasnt even moved yet.

what the problem is is that once wally leaves, the hulk can and will turn back, he's not going to be mad at a guy that hasnt touched him yet, once he goes to bruce he dies, cheap, but effective.

Time traveling wouldn't work. He could hide and wait for Hulk to de-enrage himself then kill Banner though. I don't really see him winning unless he does. Seriously, this is Hulk we're talking about. Unless the "vibrate through him and make him splode" thing actually works...

Yea he isn't going to kill him many other ways its absurd.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Yes. Steel rods, and rocks.

Flash throwing a steel pole at Hulk at 3,000 miles per second wont go through?

Hell, Wolverine was able to penetrate Hulk's skin.

Yes Hulk can punch the ground and make Wally fall, but problem is Hulk hasnt even moved yet.

No, it won't. Actually, it depends on which Hulk you're referring to.

Wolverine has stabbed Grey Hulk, and the Merger.

Driving a steel pole into either is another matter entirely.

He hasn't moved before what?

True, but he can hurt him,Spidey has caused some injury to the Hulk, and Wolverine, hell, namor ko'ed him.

Its always the one you cant touch, strength is good but if you cant touch the opponent, why bother?

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
True, but he can hurt him,Spidey has caused some injury to the Hulk, and Wolverine, hell, namor ko'ed him.

Its always the one you cant touch, strength is good but if you cant touch the opponent, why bother?

Like I said, depends on which incarnation you're talking about.

An earthquake would stop Wally in his tracks.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
No, it won't. Actually, it depends on which Hulk you're referring to.

Wolverine has stabbed Grey Hulk, and the Merger.

Driving a steel pole into either is another matter entirely.

He hasn't moved before what?

Pick one. Savage Hulk's skin isnt inpenetrable.

Driving a steel pole isnt another matter entirely. Wally throwing a steel pole at Hulk is over 1,000 times more force than that from Wolverine. How do you figure it wont go through?

Hulk is still to Wally. Hulk hasnt even began to make a move yet. Thats what I meant.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Pick one. Savage Hulk's skin isnt inpenetrable.

Driving a steel pole isnt another matter entirely. Wally throwing a steel pole at Hulk is over 1,000 times more force than that from Wolverine. How do you figure it wont go through?

Hulk is still to Wally. Hulk hasnt even began to make a move yet. Thats what I meant.

Yeah, basically, it is.

Wolverine never stabbed Savage Hulk. Hulk can take a blast that wipes out planets. A steel pole would break before it penetrated his skin.

Wally's attacks would be fruitless.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Like I said, depends on which incarnation you're talking about.

An earthquake would stop Wally in his tracks.

How will an earthquake stop Wally in motion? he'll see the waves of destruction. Hulk wont even have the chance to make an earthquak imo.

Originally posted by jrodslam


Hulk is still to Wally. Hulk hasnt even began to make a move yet. Thats what I meant. Very good point. When Wally is moving the Hulk will appear motionless to him.

Flash won't be stopped by a simple earthquake, he doesn't have to hit hulk, just banner.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Very good point. When Wally is moving the Hulk will appear motionless to him.

Not motionless. Just extremely slow. Wally precieves time slowly, but Hulk being totally motionless is hyperbole. Regardless, It doesn't really matter.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Flash won't be stopped by a simple earthquake, he doesn't have to hit hulk, just banner.

A simple earthquake would get him off his feet. Hulk could send shockwaves across the planet.

Couldnt the Flash just run around the Hulk at superspeed effectively sucking out all the air in the area and make the Hulk fall asleep?

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Couldnt the Flash just run around the Hulk at superspeed effectively sucking out all the air in the area and make the Hulk fall asleep?

Assuming that Hulk has to breathe, or that he couldn't hold his breath.

Man, Hulk's durabilty gets trashed on this forum.

But the hulk cant reach him even if the shockwaves took him at a long distance, plus the effect gets weaker, and tunneling underground removes that effect entirely.

Some people seriously underestimate the flash. Flash can creat a wind tunnel, tornados, hurricane force winds. He could simply creat a tornado, and thow hulk into the middle of the ocean for kicks.

Flash is a force to be reckoned with when he knows what he's doing.

Originally posted by Zenoside
Some people seriously underestimate the flash. Flash can creat a wind tunnel, tornados, hurricane force winds. He could simply creat a tornado, and thow hulk into the middle of the ocean for kicks.

Flash is a force to be reckoned with when he knows what he's doing.

Hulk can create winds greater than a hurricane's force with a clap. A tornado isn't going to stop Hulk.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
But the hulk cant reach him even if the shockwaves took him at a long distance, plus the effect gets weaker, and tunneling underground removes that effect entirely.

Why would tunneling undergroung protect him from an earthquake? That would kill Flash.

I dont' think hulk gets trashed at all its the opposite, he has the same argument, making him kinda stale in the debate, people like flash have more possibilities and are fun to argue.

K3vil mentioned that he can make an attack with vibration alone of some sort, like an energy that could defeat the supes, he will mention it no doubt tommorrow, though.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Yeah, basically, it is.

Wolverine never stabbed Savage Hulk. Hulk can take a blast that wipes out planets. A steel pole would break before it penetrated his skin.

Wally's attacks would be fruitless.

Hulk was stabbed in Defenders #1 by Necrodamus, and in Defenders #119, Hulk's skin was penetrated by Yandroth's wrist weapon that drove a microscopic implant in Hulks brain.

All were Savage Hulk by the way.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Assuming that Hulk has to breathe, or that he couldn't hold his breath.

Man, Hulk's durabilty gets trashed on this forum.


Has nothing to do with his durability. This technique wouldn't kill him.
If he is susceptible to sleeping gas, surprising him like this should be just as effective. Hulk is strong..but he isn't the smartest cookie out there.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Why would tunneling undergroung protect him from an earthquake? That would kill Flash.



depends on distance relevant to seismic force the tetonic plates do so much at oonly a certain range, it would lose effect, going undergrond would cause a double negative in those plates, thats all an earthquake is, besides hulk cant catch him even if it did trip him from afar.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Assuming that Hulk has to breathe, or that he couldn't hold his breath.

Man, Hulk's durabilty gets trashed on this forum.

Amongst the DC fanboys u would think Hulk has butter for skin...Hulk's skin has held up to pretty insane attacks...didnt fin fang foom blast him with flame from point blank just a couple months ago, not even singing Hulk's hair? Wolverine's claws originally couldnt penetrate the Hulk's skin, thats an development that occured in the nineties when wolverine was upgraded on a weekly bases.

Hulk has superhuman speed himself, he is faster than almost anyone on Marvel Earth although not many people realize. Didnt Deathstroke beat Flash more than once without Superman/Flash level speed?

Originally posted by jrodslam
Hulk was stabbed in Defenders #1 by Necrodamus, and in Defenders #119, Hulk's skin was penetrated by Yandroth's wrist weapon that drove a microscopic implant in Hulks brain.

All were Savage Hulk by the way.

Necromandus (a cosmic entity, no less) used magic to cut Hulk. Flash doesn't have any magic swords, or cosmic power.

Hulk's skin is virtually impenetrable. Reed couldn't even penetrate his skin with an adamantium tipped drill. His flesh is even more impenetrable than his skin. It's possible to cut him, but he heals almost instantly.

A steel rod isn't going to do the trick.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
depends on distance relevant to seismic force the tetonic plates do so much at oonly a certain range, it would lose effect, going undergrond would cause a double negative in those plates, thats all an earthquake is, besides hulk cant catch him even if it did trip him from afar.

You think Flash could survive below the tectonic plates?

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Has nothing to do with his durability. This technique wouldn't kill him.
If he is susceptible to sleeping gas, surprising him like this should be just as effective. Hulk is strong..but he isn't the smartest cookie out there.

Sleeping gas makes him sleep because of it's neurological effect. Oxygen deprivation doesn't have the same effect. If that were true, Hulk would fall asleep every time he jumped into space.

Originally posted by Wynndar
Amongst the DC fanboys u would think Hulk has butter for skin...Hulk's skin has held up to pretty insane attacks...didnt fin fang foom blast him with flame from point blank just a couple months ago, not even singing Hulk's hair? Wolverine's claws originally couldnt penetrate the Hulk's skin, thats an development that occured in the nineties when wolverine was upgraded on a weekly bases.

Hulk has superhuman speed himself, he is faster than almost anyone on Marvel Earth although not many people realize. Didnt Deathstroke beat Flash more than once without Superman/Flash level speed?

Who's a DC fanboyk, I said he wouldn't do major damage to hulk but he can hurt them,

Yes woverine is upgraded, he's hurt thano's with bone claws.

Spiderman has hurt him, Namor has ko'ed and defeated him, he is near unstoppable, but not exact, some fanboys would lead it to be so with the same, hulk gets stronger excuse.

I'm saying to not let him get stronger, Hulk is not" quicker " than many on dc, this is how Wolverine, and Spiderman dance circles around him many times, He can do larrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrge leaps, but he doesn't simply attack that fast compared to other" fast" characters, Deathstroke beat JLA to crap writing, Deathstoke is a master tactician, hulk is a scizophrenic, that changes attitude on the smallest events, think out the box.

Deathstroke got flash by calculation, but little else, flash is underrated, and gets hit by characters he shouldn't, while bats never gets hit by those he should.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Necromandus (a cosmic entity, no less) used magic to cut Hulk. Flash doesn't have any magic swords, or cosmic power.

Hulk's skin is virtually impenetrable. Reed couldn't even penetrate his skin with an adamantium tipped drill. His flesh is even more impenetrable than his skin. It's possible to cut him, but he heals almost instantly.

A steel rod isn't going to do the trick.

You say Hulks skin was inpenetrable, but magic dagger or not, it was penetrated.

Defenders #119 Yandroth penetrated Hulks skin. No magic, and it was Savage Hulk. Whats the excuse now?

anyway, his last story arc established that Hulk doesnt need to breath.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
You think Flash could survive below the tectonic plates?

Not under a certain deepness of the earths mantle of course not, that would stretch hulk, the begginning can be drilled fine, and is like the eye of the hurricane, minor to the real thing.

Originally posted by Wynndar
anyway, his last story arc established that Hulk doesnt need to breath.

If you mean in space, it would be a ring out anyway.

Originally posted by jrodslam
You say Hulks skin was inpenetrable, but magic dagger or not, it was penetrated.

Defenders #119 Yandroth penetrated Hulks skin. No magic, and it was Savage Hulk. Whats the excuse now?

It couldn't be totally impenetrable, otherwise there'd be no reason for regeneration. That's a magic dagger wielded by a cosmic foe. A cosmic magic dagger.

Hulk's skin can take the force of an attack that wipes out planets without breaking. Nothing Flash throws is getting through.

I never read 119. What exactly happened?

Got any quotes?

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Not motionless. Just extremely slow. Wally precieves time slowly, but Hulk being totally motionless is hyperbole. Regardless, It doesn't really matter.

Motionless.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Who's a DC fanboyk, I said he wouldn't do major damage to hulk but he can hurt them,

Yes woverine is upgraded, he's hurt thano's with bone claws.

Spiderman has hurt him, Namor has ko'ed and defeated him, he is near unstoppable, but not exact, some fanboys would lead it to be so with the same, hulk gets stronger excuse.

I'm saying to not let him get stronger, Hulk is not" quicker " than many on dc, this is how Wolverine, and Spiderman dance circles around him many times, He can do larrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrge leaps, but he doesn't simply attack that fast compared to other" fast" characters, Deathstroke beat JLA to crap writing, Deathstoke is a master tactician, hulk is a scizophrenic, that changes attitude on the smallest events, think out the box.

Deathstroke got flash by calculation, but little else, flash is underrated, and gets hit by characters he shouldn't, while bats never gets hit by those he should.

Hulk attacks very quickly.

Spiderman has precognition. You'd be surprised at what he can dodge.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Motionless.

It's a comic book frame. Everything's motionless.

On a serious note, Flash hyperbolizes a lot. Things might be moving very slow, but not completely still.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
It couldn't be totally impenetrable, otherwise there'd be no reason for regeneration. That's a magic dagger wielded by a cosmic foe. A cosmic magic dagger.

Hulk's skin can take the force of an attack that wipes out planets without breaking. Nothing Flash throws is getting through.

I never read 119. What exactly happened?

Got any quotes?

As you wish.

Yandroth - "I had hoped you be unconscious before I tried this Hulk--But I have no choice. I must act... now!"

Narrator - Her weapon drives a microscopic implant deep into the Hulk's brain--and then, gently, he sets the woman down.

She also did it to Clea, Namor, and Valkerie.

Originally posted by jrodslam
As you wish.

Yandroth - "I had hoped you be unconscious before I tried this Hulk--But I have no choice. I must act... now!"

Narrator - Her weapon drives a microscopic implant deep into the Hulk's brain--and then, gently, he sets the woman down.

She also did it to Clea, Namor, and Valkerie.

Quotes from Hulk, please.

Yes hulk is fast, but not as "quick", theres a difference, though he is unbelivably limber, it cancels out to the lightweights.

Flash now wins

Jack of Hearts is a pretty legit cosmic warrior too...It says a lot if Hulk catches him from behind.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
It's a comic book frame. Everything's motionless.

On a serious note, Flash hyperbolizes a lot. Things might be moving very slow, but not completely still.

Flash - To my eyes, of course, the whole scene is a surreal, FROZEN tableau.

Flash - And there he is. The Big Guy...Suspendid in midair over the square seething with power and grace. A morionless man of steel...

You realize that was a "leap" and not an attack like a punch or chop right.

He can leap great distances, but his massive bulk loses his flexibility, dexterity, and therefore some nimbleness.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Yes hulk is fast, but not as "quick", theres a difference, though he is unbelivably limber, it cancels out to the lightweights.

Actually, He's quicker than he is fast. He's damn accurate too.

I disagree, but if so, not on the lightweights.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Quotes from Hulk, please.

Sure.

Hulk - "Fall just made Hulk madder...And the madder Hulk gets, the stronger Hulk gets!"

Thats when Yandroth says what I quoted.

Later on in the book she even says to Namor......

Yandroth - If my cybernetic implants can pierce even the Hulk's gamma-strengthened skin--I'll have no trouble at all with yours!"

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
You realize that was a "leap" and not an attack like a punch or chop right.

He can leap great distances, but his massive bulk loses his flexibility, dexterity, and therefore some nimbleness.

who says he loses speed or dexterity? Marvel rates his speed and agility at superhuman. Technically, Hulk possesses far greater speed than both Spidey and Wolverine. The Hulk can run at several hundred miles per hour. In a fight against the Avengers, mindless Hulk was moving faster than Wonderman's, Namor's, and Ironman's eyes could percieve.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Flash - To my eyes, of course, the whole scene is a surreal, FROZEN tableau.

Flash - And there he is. The Big Guy...Suspendid in midair over the square seething with power and grace. A morionless man of steel...

So. Superman isn't even doing anything in that frame.


Flash often sees things as a blur when running (like in the fight with Zum.) If he always percieved things that slowly, he wouldn't see a blur. Or maybe it's just the artist.

It has to suck to everything that slowly. Can he change how slowly he percieves events?

Originally posted by jrodslam
Sure.

Hulk - "Fall just made Hulk madder...And the madder Hulk gets, the stronger Hulk gets!"

Thats when Yandroth says what I quoted.

Later on in the book she even says to Namor......

Yandroth - If my cybernetic implants can pierce even the Hulk's gamma-strengthened skin--I'll have no trouble at all with yours!"



I said Hulk's skin can't be totally impenetrable. Otherwise he wouldn't need regeneration. The writing still sounds kinda iffy. That doesn't sound like Savage Hulk durability.

Yandroth should patent those things.

Originally posted by Wynndar
who says he loses speed or dexterity? Marvel rates his speed and agility at superhuman. Technically, Hulk possesses far greater speed than both Spidey and Wolverine. The Hulk can run at several hundred miles per hour. In a fight against the Avengers, mindless Hulk was moving faster than Wonderman's, Namor's, and Ironman's eyes could percieve.

I know its superhuman, but a disadvantage against lightweights from his sheer size, he can run and "leap" fast, just like Iron Man can move fast,but bats may annoy hulk with dodging, much so, spiderman, wolverine, and especially slash.

Why are they fighting? This could help set up whichever hates the other more, giving them more reason to fight....

Originally posted by jrodslam
Sure.

Hulk - "Fall just made Hulk madder...And the madder Hulk gets, the stronger Hulk gets!"

Thats when Yandroth says what I quoted.

Later on in the book she even says to Namor......

Yandroth - If my cybernetic implants can pierce even the Hulk's gamma-strengthened skin--I'll have no trouble at all with yours!"


It’s true she controls them, and she did fierce hulk’s skin

But what does this have to do with anything, he heals instantly

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
I know its superhuman, but a disadvantage against lightweights from his sheer size, he can run and "leap" fast, just like Iron Man can move fast,but bats may annoy hulk with dodging, much so, spiderman, wolverine, and especially slash.

Batman could not dodge Hulk. Wolverine, maybe. Spidey, no doubt.

Who is Slash?

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
So. Superman isn't even doing anything in that frame.


Flash often sees things as a blur when running (like in the fight with Zum.) If he always percieved things that slowly, he wouldn't see a blur. Or maybe it's just the artist.

It has to suck to everything that slowly. Can he change how slowly he percieves events?

Cosmic, it seems like Superman isnt doing anything because everything is frozen. Superman is about to land and take care of a bomb threat. Notice how the clocks timer is on 0:00.

Flash runs to Gotham(Batman), Atlantis(Aquaman), Greenwich Village(Lantern) and moves all the bombs.

All of them were set to go off at the same time. All the timers were on 0:00. Everyone in the world was motionless.

Afterwards, he threw the bomb into orbit.

If things were moving slowly, he would have to slow down for that. Like he did in Flash #207.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Cosmic, it seems like Superman isnt doing anything because everything is frozen. Superman is about to land and take care of a bomb threat. Notice how the clocks timer is on 0:00.

Flash runs to Gotham(Batman), Atlantis(Aquaman), Greenwich Village(Lantern) and moves all the bombs.

All of them were set to go off at the same time. All the timers were on 0:00. Everyone in the world was motionless.

Afterwards, he threw the bomb into orbit.

If things were moving slowly, he would have to slow down for that. Like he did in Flash #207.

I'm joking jrodslam. I know that you're right.

I don't quite understand your last sentence.

Does Flash always percieve things like that, though?

Originally posted by kgkg
It’s true she controls them, and she did fierce hulk’s skin

But what does this have to do with anything, he heals instantly

In one of the earlier pages I stated that Flash could trow things at Hulk peircing his skin. Using his speed to have great superhuman strength.

True it wouldnt do much damage, but its another one of Wallys tactics.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
I'm joking jrodslam. I know that you're right.

Does Flash always percieve things like that, though?

Of course not.

BUUUT hed know that getting hit by the Hulk isnt an option. Thus while fighting, Hulk would be either motionless or hardly moving at all. Thats all im saying.

Originally posted by jrodslam
In one of the earlier pages I stated that Flash could trow things at Hulk peircing his skin. Using his speed to have great superhuman strength.

True it wouldnt do much damage, but its another one of Wallys tactics.

You said that he could throw rocks and steel poles to hurt Hulk. Rocks.

Flash #163

I call that the show-off issue.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Of course not.

BUUUT hed know that getting hit by the Hulk isnt an option. Thus while fighting, Hulk would be either motionless or hardly moving at all. Thats all im saying.

K. That would suck if he were trying to have a conversation. Or waiting for a new video game to come out.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
You said that he could throw rocks and steel poles to hurt Hulk. Rocks.



Yea. Flash throwing a rock at Hulk will most definately go through. I have no doubts about that. None at all. Especially if hes throwing it with enough velocity.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Yea. Flash throwing a rock at Hulk will most definately go through. I have no doubts about that. None at all. Especially if hes throwing it with enough velocity.

It would break on his skin. It would be like throwing a staypuft marshmallow at 3000 mps.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
It would break on his skin. It would be like throwing a staypuft marshmallow at 3000 mps.

Actually given enough speed damn near anythign can pierce anything else.You can find some pretty crazy stuff slicing through much harder things in a hurricanne and thats only several hundred MPH

Anyways i still think its a stalemate.Hulk couldnt lay a hand on him and even his famous Shockwave clap is too slow to hit Wall.At the same time the damage Wally could cause likely wont be enough to beat Hulks regeneration

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Batman could not dodge Hulk. Wolverine, maybe. Spidey, no doubt.

Who is Slash?

Sorry I was going off that horrid batman fight vs. the hulk

i meant Flash.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
You said that he could throw rocks and steel poles to hurt Hulk. Rocks.



A rock from wally would be like a 50 cal machine gun times a lot, it would hurt, but annoy, I say leave then kill banner not hulk, and projectiles like rocks fade in the air as they come to the target that fast.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
A rock from wally would be like a 50 cal machine gun times a lot, it would hurt, but annoy, I say leave then kill banner not hulk, and projectiles like rocks fade in the air as they come to the target that fast.

A machine gun!?

WTF?! A bullet from a machine gun isn't enough to penetrate Hulk's skin. That would be like tickling Hulk. Throwing high velocity rocks isn't going to work, either.

Hulk's durability is being WAY underrated.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
A machine gun!?

WTF?! A bullet from a machine gun isn't enough to penetrate Hulk's skin. That would be like tickling Hulk. Throwing high velocity rocks isn't going to work, either.

Hulk's durability is being WAY underrated.
True he might have gotten penetrate before, but he heals instantly from small shit like that.

If this wasn't the case Hulk would be long dead

But flash speed will be too much for Hulk in this battle especially now

guys it might sound stupid......but technically when hulk gets pissed his strength, durability, speed, healing factor.....grow exponentially...the madder he is the more they grow.....what if he got mad pissed beyond believe and he had it building for months i mean mad pissed like never before.....would it be possible for him to travel at superman speed?.....since sups is basically using muscle energy to move fast nothing else......?

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
A machine gun!?

WTF?! A bullet from a machine gun isn't enough to penetrate Hulk's skin. That would be like tickling Hulk. Throwing high velocity rocks isn't going to work, either.

Hulk's durability is being WAY underrated.

Did you notice I said annoy, I think flash is the underraated one here.

I in no way said anything about critical damage, I was doing a neutrall point on a previous argument, I said it would be fruitless to even direct assault the hulk, flash would fare better against lobo.

Originally posted by colossus17
guys it might sound stupid......but technically when hulk gets pissed his strength, durability, speed, healing factor.....grow exponentially...the madder he is the more they grow.....what if he got mad pissed beyond believe and he had it building for months i mean mad pissed like never before.....would it be possible for him to travel at superman speed?.....since sups is basically using muscle energy to move fast nothing else......?

I said it would be best not to aggravate him, and still he wont catch flash on his best day.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
I said it would be best not to aggravate him, and still he wont catch flash on his best day.

I agree.

Originally posted by colossus17
guys it might sound stupid......but technically when hulk gets pissed his strength, durability, speed, healing factor.....grow exponentially...the madder he is the more they grow.....what if he got mad pissed beyond believe and he had it building for months i mean mad pissed like never before.....would it be possible for him to travel at superman speed?.....since sups is basically using muscle energy to move fast nothing else......?

He probably could, if his muscles became reflexive enough and strong enough. It's logically sound. Superman's speed is really a result of his reflexes. All of Hulk's powers increase when he gets angrier, so it's logical that his reflexes could increase as well.

He could never get as fast as Flash, though. Remember that Hulk does get bigger, and Hulk doesn't have the Speed Force to negate his inertial mass.

yeah but near light speeds like superman.....

Another thing people dont give Wally credit for is his healing factor. I put it up there with the best of them.

im sorry... but what exactly can hurt the hulk? electricity? fire?

huh???

lol that came out of no where.....

Originally posted by colossus17
yeah but near light speeds like superman.....

Superman doesn't move at near lightspeed. He can fly that fast, but he can't think or move as fast as he flies.

Superman moves/runs/etc. much slower than he flies.

Originally posted by Pointinel
im sorry... but what exactly can hurt the hulk? electricity? fire?

None of the above.

30,000 mp/h?

Originally posted by jrodslam
Another thing people dont give Wally credit for is his healing factor. I put it up there with the best of them.

Wally has a healing factor, not regeneration. If you cut off his arm, it will heal into a stump. He just has a superfast human metabolism. His healing is nowhere near Hulk's level.

Originally posted by colossus17
30,000 mp/h?

I don't see why not.

I think Superman's a little faster than that, though.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
I don't see why not.

I think Superman's a little faster than that, though.
mad Superman or nomal superman?

Originally posted by Pointinel
im sorry... but what exactly can hurt the hulk? electricity? fire?

Namor,other than that you have to rely on his schizophrenia, hulk isn't meant to be beaten by physical prowress.

Originally posted by kgkg
mad Superman or nomal superman?

Not mad Superman. He's FTL.

yea but flash can steal speed as well.

how would you factor that?

wasnt Hulk dying when Namor knocked him out?

any way this is becoming another spidey VS. colossus case....

I simply remember that he ko'ed the crap out of him, read namor vs. wolverine, Darkcrawler was more explicit on it, regardless deadpool got hulk with just a lightpole, thats utter bulllshit.

I think Namor KO'd the Hulk when he was dying from the time Doc Samson separated Hulk and Banner...i think he was in pretty bad shape.

I seriously think it was green hulk,I'd have to research.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Wally has a healing factor, not regeneration. If you cut off his arm, it will heal into a stump. He just has a superfast human metabolism. His healing is nowhere near Hulk's level.

I never said anything about regeneration. Where did that come from? Wolverine nor Sabertooth can regenerate, but their healing factors are among the beset in Marvel.

I just stated that Wallys healing factor goes unoticed alot. Having a fast metabolism, gives him a great healing factor.

Yep, wolverine and sabre only accelreate what they do, a missing organ or entire limb stays gone,

if it would be the case then shouldnt their bodies be filled with scars.....

Originally posted by colossus17
if it would be the case then shouldnt their bodies be filled with scars.....

Should be.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Yep, wolverine and sabre only accelreate what they do, a missing organ or entire limb stays gone,

that one guy ripped out wolverine's eye and ate it...that grew back didnt it?

Originally posted by Wynndar
that one guy ripped out wolverine's eye and ate it...that grew back didnt it?

I think Wolverine has regeneration, not just a healing factor.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
I seriously think it was green hulk,I'd have to research.

It was mindless Hulk who is green...and im pretty sure he was dying.

I know the eye isnt a limb.

But is it an organ?

lol he got you there CM......

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
I think Wolverine has regeneration, not just a healing factor.

Nope. Deadpool, Abomination, Hulk has the regeneration along with healing factor.

The others have only the healing factor only.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
yea but flash can steal speed as well.

how would you factor that?

"Stealing speed" is like tripping someone. It doesn't freeze the subject. Why would he need to do that to Hulk?Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
I seriously think it was green hulk,I'd have to research. Namor apparently KOed Banner Controlled Hulk when they fought underwater. It never showed Hulk KOed, it just showed him reverted to Banner. Namor never KOed Savage Hulk. No one has KOed Savage Hulk in a straight up fist fight.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
I think Wolverine has regeneration, not just a healing factor.

It says regeneration, but it explicitly says any organ cannot be grown back, hence the skeleton.

Wolverine's healing feats are too inconsistant, you need some background.

Organs and organ systems include skin and limbs, u and i heal a torn piece of skin, but logan would do it faster, he would have to lose ALL his skin to not grow it back, or all the muscles, but then wolverine's shown to come back from a drop of blood, it says any organs removed can be fatal, the abdomen is such a place.

true

he's regrown an eye

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
"Stealing speed" is like tripping someone. It doesn't freeze the subject. Why would he need to do that to Hulk? Namor apparently KOed Banner Controlled Hulk when they fought underwater. It never showed Hulk KOed, it just showed him reverted to Banner.

You missed the point of the speed, i didn't mean freezing, he wouldn' use that on hulk, since hulk can't catch him, it was an opinion question.

Lets call that match a victory.Not a ko.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
It says regeneration, but it explicitly says any organ cannot be grown back, hence the skeleton.

Wolverine's healing feats are too inconsistant, you need some background.

Organs and organ systems include skin and limbs, u and i heal a torn piece of skin, but logan would do it faster, he would have to lose ALL his skin to not grow it back, or all the muscles, but then wolverine's shown to come back from a drop of blood, it says any organs removed can be fatal, the abdomen is such a place.

Wolverine came back from a drop of blood!?!?!!?

no

Originally posted by jrodslam
Nope. Deadpool, Abomination, Hulk has the regeneration along with healing factor.

The others have only the healing factor only.

thats it.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Wolverine came back from a drop of blood!?!?!!?

It was some shit writing let me fetch it, or some info on it.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
thats it.

if it would be the case he would be dead......a long time ago......

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Namor apparently KOed Banner Controlled Hulk when they fought underwater. It never showed Hulk KOed, it just showed him reverted to Banner. Namor never KOed Savage Hulk. No one has KOed Savage Hulk in a straight up fist fight.

Umm Banner controoled Hulk? In Incredible Hulk #118? What makes you think that?

When Hulk gets K.o'd does he not revert back to Banner? I dont understand.

I wanna be clear here.

Savage Hulk = Mindless Hulk? Hulk hate puny Fish-Man, Hulk smash, Hulk strongest there is. Etc?

Whats Banner controled Hulk?

Originally posted by jrodslam
Umm Banner controoled Hulk? In Incredible Hulk #118? What makes you think that?

When Hulk gets K.o'd does he not revert back to Banner? I dont understand.

In Incredible Hulk #118, Hulk says 'I' and 'me.' He calls himself 'the Hulk.' Savage Hulk doesn't talk like that. That is during the time when Bruce used the Gamma Ray on himself to turn into Hulk.

Originally posted by jrodslam
I wanna be clear here.

Savage Hulk = Mindless Hulk? Hulk hate puny Fish-Man, Hulk smash, Hulk strongest there is. Etc?

Whats Banner controled Hulk?

Savage Hulk is not Mindless Hulk.

Savage Hulk calls Namor Fish-Man.

Mindless Hulk doesn't know how to talk.

Banner Controlled Hulk: "I'm the Hulk!"

yeah mindless has the intelligence of a dog

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
In Incredible Hulk #118, Hulk says 'I' and 'me.' He calls himself 'the Hulk.' Savage Hulk doesn't talk like that. That is during the time when Bruce used the Gamma Ray on himself to turn into Hulk.

Nope. In Hulk #118, he doesnt talk that way.

Namor - "No one has ever broken through my whirlpool trap before!"

Hulk then says - "No one else is Hulk!"

also.......

Namor said - "Back you fool. Turn back!"

hulk then says - "Hulk turns back for no one"

That seems like Savage Hulk to me. Not Banner controled.

what r u talking about? that sounds much more correct than savage hulk usually speaks.

Originally posted by colossus17
if it would be the case he would be dead......a long time ago......

He heals superfast, but can't really lose limbs, which is why he has on the skeleton, it says he dies from damage or removal to the liver, wolverine has shit writing supreme

The drop of blood involved a magic globe and wolverine becoming a god thusly, don't ask.

This is Banner-Controlled Hulk.

Wolverine became a God?

Originally posted by Zod4Life
Wolverine became a God?

Don't be suprised. Wolverine fought Galactus once.

See you experts later, I'll resume early on peace.

From what I learned from other threads Flash's strongest attack is I.M.P which seems to destroy anyhing. So I'm going to have to choose Flash.

thats the attack i meant, though i don't think it would utterly destroy the hulk.

I really doubt that the Flash could hurt the Hulk. But one hit from the Hulk to Flash and it might be all over. The best way is to just run around until maybe the Hulk gets tired...which I highly doubt...I'm going to pick the Hulk here because he is too powerful and too strong for the Flash.

He can hurt the hulk, hulk wont touch the flash, so all of the strength in the world is useless, and flash has superhuman durabilityin a sense, because he gets hit at high velocity, making him take that much more damage, ever run really fast into a wall?

Power without control is near useless, and flaash would leave him, then come back, he simply has more options.

He could hit the Hulk as much as he wants but it will be useless as well...it makes me wonder though, if the Flash is that powerful, then how come the Hulk and Superman always fight when there's a crossover..

He can hurt the hulk, but i already said direct attack would be pointless.

Shadow cat would whoop the hulk and she isn't truly a peak human, there's other methods, same with woverine.

You make it sound like the Hulk is some kind of retarded...he actually has a higher intelligence level than those two you just mentioned...i doubt that shadowcat and wolverine together can hurt the Hulk...if it takes the whole avengers to slow down the Hulk, I doubt those two and flash can hurt him.