Braveheart, Troy, Gladiator

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Stealth Agent
Which movie do you like the most?

I like Gladiator alot, the story is epic. How a slave defys an emperor, the action is awesome. It's pretty damn cool.

Troy was good but i found it lacking. The action was awesome but, the main characther Achilles i dunno. Most of the movie he's ignorant and cares for no one but his cousin. Then when the ends nears he just becomes merciful out of no where.
Also i just expected more from the movie. In the beggining achilles said imagine a king who faught his own battles. He also said he wanted to become immortally famous. So imagined him doing amazing things throughout the movie.

I have not seen braveheart.

jaden101
braveheart..but then...i'm biased

Lord_Andres
Braveheart is the best of those 3, Gladiator is very close though, troy on the other hand is not close to the 2, it lacks the dialog, Directing, and acting, and a bit more battles and, also some of hte stuff they wrote for Achillis was rather bad

Myth
Braveheart, hands down.

bakerboy
Braveheart is the best movie of the three. Althought , gladiator is pretty close and troy is only a good movie.

Stealth Agent
Troy was a good movie it just wasn't very epic or anything. There were some good quotes, like imagine aking who faught his own battles, or so many soldiers die for a king they've nver met. There was a good quote cant remember bout not serving the king.
The movie was only so so in the end.

Cinemaddiction
"Braveheart" was riddled with inaccuracies and a lot was played up. "Gladiator" gets my vote.

SnakeEyes
Well... I would have to say Gladiator, even though I may get flamed for it. Braveheart was very good as well... but there is just something that I liked about Gladiator. Too bad I lost my copy...

forumcrew
Originally posted by SnakeEyes
Well... I would have to say Gladiator, even though I may get flamed for it. Braveheart was very good as well... but there is just something that I liked about Gladiator. Too bad I lost my copy...

well i will stand bye you with picking Gladiator for sure.

Stealth Agent
gO GLADIATOR!

WHAT got played up in Braveheart?

TommyBoy2005
So your saying that gladiator is more historically accurate then braveheart. Now I'm not saying that bravheart is fact, but its closer to history the gladiator. wait a minute i think i remember reading somewhere that in ancient Rome a slave killed a Cesar then he became Cesar. nope didn't happen big grin

Murray
My vote goes to Braveheart just because it's a movie that has drama and a bit of light-heartened fun. However, Gladiator was an excellent movie. Troy doesn't measure to either of them, even though it stars three of the hottest actors in the world, it can't live up to the Ancient Epics of Gladiator and Braveheart.

botankus
I like Braveheart, then Gladiator and Troy about the same.

Cinemaddiction
Originally posted by TommyBoy2005
So your saying that gladiator is more historically accurate then braveheart. Now I'm not saying that bravheart is fact, but its closer to history the gladiator. wait a minute i think i remember reading somewhere that in ancient Rome a slave killed a Cesar then he became Cesar. nope didn't happen big grin

"Gladiator" is mostly fiction, taking a few cues from Ancient Rome just for credibility. "Braveheart", like I said, was inaccurate. It's all right here if you want to read about it.

TommyBoy2005
i know that neither of them are documentaries, you just make it sound like gladiator was more real the braveheart. which it isn't. lets just agree that they both have inaccuracies

SnakeEyes
Well, he may have been saying that Braveheart was supposed to be more real, because it was based on a real man's life and real events, unlike Gladiator, which was Historical Fiction. So, Gladiator did not have to be as historically accurate as Braveheart, and Braveheart apparently wasn't that accurate anyway...

T.M
Braveheart hands down.

Troy was shit IMO and Gladiator wasnt much better.

Murray
what does IMO mean again?

jaden101
in my opinion

pr1983
accuracy doesnt really mean that much in this context imo... they arent documentaries...

i say braveheart, then gladiator...

i don't even include troy because of how bad it was...

ragesRemorse
^^ yeah, Troy was garbage.

Discos
i very very much enjoyed TROY. i am well into my Mythology and was very taken by TROY.

Braveheart was just a cracker though, being scottish i MUST love this movie! Mel Gibson did a very good job of directing on such a difficult project. Bassically everything i was taught at school about William Wallace except a few things (a big part which was left out was at the battle of sterling (where we defeat the english) was actually named 'The Battle of Sterling Bridge' and i aced an essay paper by writing about the bridge incident)

i feel so passionate about Braveheart. Back in school we visited the 'mud-huts' which scots used to live in and its just.....an un-describable patriotic feelıng.

i am currently on holiday in Turkey and evertime we mention we are from Scotland we get the whole 'braveheart congratulations'.

But even now i would right enough fight and die for William Wallace back in them days -
1) to defend and honor my country
2) because Edward the fırst was a complete w*nker!

Gladiator - Second movie my grandpa sat me down to watch with him and i thoroughly enjoyed this epic too. Was a very good story line but it didnt quite do it for me compared to the other 2 movies. i dislike alot of movies where there are empires and slaves and such.....not a big fan of slavery-sort of disgusts me (even in movies)

Discos - Braveheart has the best movie soundtrack & also gets my vote on this thread.

T.M
Originally posted by Discos
i very very much enjoyed TROY. i am well into my Mythology and was very taken by TROY.

really. blink

well here is some things about the film that go against the mythology.

deep breath.

The movie suggests that Troy was sacked about a month after the Greeks landed; Homer's "Illiad" has the siege lasting over ten years. - Menelaus was not slain by Hector; he outlived him and was one of the soldiers in the Trojan Horse. He was eventually reunited with Helen and they apparently lived a happy life until his death in Sparta many years later. - Agamemnon was not killed by Briseis at Troy; he survived and returned home only to be killed by his wife Clytaemnestra and her lover Aegisthus. - Patroclus was not Achilles cousin, he was probably his lover. - Achilles was killed by a single arrow shot by Paris, way before the Greeks built the horse. - Priam was killed by Neoptolemos, son of Achilles. - Patrokles was deadly wounded by Euphorbos and Hector then cut his throat. - Ajax was not killed by Hector, instead he committed suicide, after slaughtering a flock of sheep, which in a bout of madness he mistook for the Greeks that had refused him the armor of the dead Achilles. - Paris died of a poisoned arrow shot by Philoket. - Astyanax, son of Hector, was thrown to his death from the walls of Troy by the victorious Greeks. - Andromache, wife of Hector, was taken as a slave by Neoptolemos. - Aeneas was a son in law to King Priam and the second in command of the Trojan forces. So Paris asking him his name at the end of the movie is rather strange.

this is why i didnt like the movie.

fruits
hmmm, i actually never saw braveheart, never saw all of Gladiator, but i did see all of Troy. Troy was a very good movie, i will admit, but from what i did see in gladiator it looked like it would've been better. ill have to see the whole movie then get back to you

Clovie
braveheart
i hated gladiator and troy was just boring

Elrariel
Braveheart gets my vote for sure.

Whilst I liked both Gladiator and Troy, they just don't attract my attention as much as Braveheart!!

b-dan
i like troy probly cuz its just one big war and the bad guys win

baracustastic
Another chance to rant about Braveheart. Excellent.

Braveheart is historical mince. I can enjoy the film but I always get pissed off cos of the lack of history.

Wallace did not outlive Edward I
He didn't get his hole from the Queen.
Bruce NEVER fought for England.
Bannockburn did not win Scotland independence.
Wallace wasn't a peasant.

I could go on, but I think this site has finally made me sick of ranting about bloody braveheart.

jaden101
Originally posted by baracustastic
Another chance to rant about Braveheart. Excellent.

Braveheart is historical mince. I can enjoy the film but I always get pissed off cos of the lack of history.

Wallace did not outlive Edward I
He didn't get his hole from the Queen.
Bruce NEVER fought for England.
Bannockburn did not win Scotland independence.
Wallace wasn't a peasant.

I could go on, but I think this site has finally made me sick of ranting about bloody braveheart.

you could indeed go on...the biggest gripe being that wallace and robert the bruce never met

J'sGirl2007
I didn't see Gladiator, but I liked the other two movies. Braveheart was so good. I thought Troy was good too. I think it's cuz I am really into Greek mythology and stuff. And I know a lot of the things in that movie were inaccurate, but for some reason I was captivated. Lol. I liked how they portrayed the death of Achilles and how the myth about him was created. I dont know. I just dont think it was that bad of a movie...

Morlow
Originally posted by bakerboy
Braveheart is the best movie of the three. Althought , gladiator is pretty close and troy is only a good movie.

What he said. smile

Myth
Why is this in sci fi/fantasy?

king_arthur
I like Troy in terms of the huge battle scenes.

Darth Macabre
Gladiator, then Braveheart.

T.M
Originally posted by Myth
Why is this in sci fi/fantasy?

shrugrin

nimbus006
People these are movies for pete's sake, they do not have to be historically accurate unless otherwise stated at the begginning or end of the movie, which of the 3 the only one that does sort of commit to that is Braveheart. Gladiator in no way is suppose to be historically accurate, its just a dam cool fictional movie with a dam cool fictional protagonist. And Troy! How is Troy going to be Historically accurate when for the most part none of it is really true. Its a story written by a man, who cares if somebody else decIdes to make a movie out of it and changes some things up, it never really happenned, if you want to find out what really happenned in any of these movies watch the history channel or read a book about them. IMO all three of these movies were highly entertaining (which is the main purpose of a movie) and for what they were, somehwhat informative.

pr1983
Troy was a big steaming pile of shit bar two or three scenes...

Brendan Gleeson getting paid to beat the shit out of Orlando Bloom (i'd do it for free) was good, and the Achilles v Hector battle, good choreography... Other than that, the movie is nothing but an excuse for Brad Pitt to take his clothes off... Ridiculous...

Stealth Agent
Originally posted by Clovie
braveheart
i hated gladiator and troy was just boring

How is Troy boring? i could understand lame story, or pointless. But damn near the whole movie was action?

I liked Troy as an action flick. I don't think the story is all that bad either. I like gladiator in an entireley other way. I like it for it's excellent story line and drama. You cannot take one scene out of that move without altering the entire thing. Everything is essential. It's a good movie.

By the way i watch movie's for movies for entertainment. Thats all they are meant to be. They are not documentarys. They are movies.

Clovie
Originally posted by Stealth Agent
How is Troy boring? i could understand lame story, or pointless. But damn near the whole movie was action?

I liked Troy as an action flick. I don't think the story is all that bad either. I like gladiator in an entireley other way. I like it for it's excellent story line and drama. You cannot take one scene out of that move without altering the entire thing. Everything is essential. It's a good movie.

By the way i watch movie's for movies for entertainment. Thats all they are meant to be. They are not documentarys. They are movies. I didn't like Bloom's monologues erm

Stealth Agent
Bloom was a pansy in the movie. He had two small action sceanes. I would say the rest of the action kept me on my feet enough in order to not let orlando bore me though.

Reznik
I loved Troy. Although it didnt have all the aspects of Iliad still loved it.

Capt_Fantastic
I'm partial to Gladiator. I'm not a huge fan of Braveheart and Troy was justbad. Very Very Bad

KillTheLight
My vote goes to Gladiator..I love that movie

fruits
hmmm, well i saw gladiator a few days ago (all of it this time) and ive gotta say, better then troy. still havent seen all of bravehear, but my vote is gonna go for gladiator

belbel300
Gladiator wins hands down, braveheart has past its time, and troy was rubbish. In gladiator, the musics and effects are amazing and the actors are brill and can act, i mean Joaquin Pheonix and Russel Crowe, it doesn't get much better, it made me cry at the end crybaby and 'Now we are free' is my fav song of all time!

Deano
gladiator gets my vote

braveheart sucks because of mel gibson

belbel300
yey GO GLADIATOR

RZA
^ I luv that sig love

Definitely Gladiator. Braveheart was good too and so was Rob Roy.

Troy was rubbish. 'Hector!!!...Hector!!!'...argggg....ughhhh

Why is this in Sci-Fi/Fantasy?

Robby001
I kind of wish they would have had an alternate ending for Gladiator where Maximus got his army, then had a huge battle against Commodus. Then the two of them ad there fight as they were the only two left standing.horse That would have been great..

RZA
^
Nah, that would have been way too scripted and a nice neatly packaged story book ending with of course Maximus defeating Commodus in the end with no loss of life of his own.

Besides, why would Commodus have been the last one standing? He wasn't even a soldier, he didn't fight in any wars. The only way Commodus would have fought him was the way he did in the movie by cheating. He was way too scared to fight someone like Maximus on an even keel and again it wouldn't have been much of a fight cuz he would've gotten his arse kicked.

I like the ending the way it was. It was different and not usually the type of ending that's expected. Truly Fantastic!

Of course that kind of ending can only take place in a fictional movie, in real Rome it would've never happened.

Robby001
True but it would have been great to see another huge battle. By my meaning of Commodus left standing would be of course because he was not directly involved with the battle.

Just would have loved to see the Praetorian bastards get there's2guns Thats all.

RZA
True, it would have definitely made for another great battle scene. Personally, I would have loved to see Quintus die. If there was one thing that bothered me that was it, not seeing him get his deserved justice as well at the hands of Maximus.

'What We Do In Life Echoes In Eternity'

Robby001
Yeah you got a great point there. He was a two timing f*g...ranting He should have totally gotten his.

Supreme being
Without a doubt Braveheart is the best, anyone who says they didn't choke up when Wallace ws getting tortured and they ask him to scream mercy but he screamed freedom is darn right heartless. sad

Pandemoniac
Historically incorrect (like it matters), but Braveheart is one of my favorite movies of all times. Great battles, drama, cinematography and casting. I loved Gladiator as well, allmost as much as Braveheart. Troy was good too, but not nearly as impressive as the other 2.

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