Boba Fett & Durge vs. Jango Fett & Grievous
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Darth Mantis
Setting is the tomb of Naga Sadow...
jango fat
Boba Fett & Durge all the way dude
General Zodiac
Jango knows everything Boba will do so Jango would kill Boba. Grievous already defeated Durge since that's how he became leader of the droid army:
At his hidden base aboard the Trenchant space station, Dooku pit his minions Asajj Ventress and Durge up against Grievous to determine who would be the commander of the Separatist droid army. Grievous emerged victorious.
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exanda kane
Originally posted by General Zodiac
Jango knows everything Boba will do so Jango would kill Boba. Grievous already defeated Durge since that's how he became leader of the droid army:
At his hidden base aboard the Trenchant space station, Dooku pit his minions Asajj Ventress and Durge up against Grievous to determine who would be the commander of the Separatist droid army. Grievous emerged victorious.
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"He's right y'know"
HimoKun
Originally posted by General Zodiac
Jango knows everything Boba will do so Jango would kill Boba. Grievous already defeated Durge since that's how he became leader of the droid army:
At his hidden base aboard the Trenchant space station, Dooku pit his minions Asajj Ventress and Durge up against Grievous to determine who would be the commander of the Separatist droid army. Grievous emerged victorious.
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More like Boba would know everything Jango would do and kill him, And Grevious would waste the others.
Emperor Revan
Jango would beat Boba IMO. Jango killed several Jedi and Boba got defeated by Kyle (pre-Jedi) and Dash Rendar.
HimoKun
By the accounts, he didn't get killed my Kyle since he later fought Jaden Korr. And what your forgetting is Jango taught Boba, and Boba would've learned more than Jango could fathom since he lived in a new age with better armor and weaponry.
General Zodiac
Boba is basically in an older version of Jango's suit. Same ship and everything. Mostly the same person.
LordSorgo
Originally posted by General Zodiac
Boba is basically in an older version of Jango's suit. Same ship and everything. Mostly the same person.
Boba lived longer than Jango and learned new tricks, obviously.
Boba has killed many Jedi and he killed Darth Vader.
Jango was, in term, killed by a Jedi.
Durge would shoot himself like a *** and then Boba would **** Grievous' shit up and somehow at the same time, Boba and Jango's guns would **** up. They would then get into a fist fight and Boba would waste Jango's shit.
LordYomi13
When did Boba kill Darth Vader? Durge got beat by Grievous before, so Grievous and Jango would go against Boba, and boba would get ruined by both of them after getting a missile and rapid blaster shots from Jango whilst Grievous slashed the hell out of him.
General Zodiac
YEAH!
Plus Grievous wouldn't need Jango's help. He took down Durge and a Dark Jedi at once so a bounty hunter isn't anything to worry about.
SnakeEyes
Can somebody please tell me where Durge and GG fight!?! Not because I don't believe you, but I just really wanna see it...
Emperor Revan
Originally posted by LordSorgo
Boba lived longer than Jango and learned new tricks, obviously.
Boba has killed many Jedi and he killed Darth Vader.
Jango was, in term, killed by a Jedi.
Durge would shoot himself like a *** and then Boba would **** Grievous' shit up and somehow at the same time, Boba and Jango's guns would **** up. They would then get into a fist fight and Boba would waste Jango's shit.
Jango couldn't have taught ALL of his tricks to Boba.
What Jedi did Boba kill? And I don't think he killed Vader for some reason.
Jango was killed by the guy who beat Darth Sidious. Not to mention his jet pack was unexpectedly damaged by the reek.
And Himokun, I never said Kyle or Dash killed Boba, just defeated him.
Emperor Revan
It's cool.

LordSorgo
Originally posted by Emperor Revan
Jango couldn't have taught ALL of his tricks to Boba.
What Jedi did Boba kill? And I don't think he killed Vader for some reason.
Jango was killed by the guy who beat Darth Sidious. Not to mention his jet pack was unexpectedly damaged by the reek.
And Himokun, I never said Kyle or Dash killed Boba, just defeated him.
Who beat Sidious? Um.... I wont get into that.....
Boba has killed handfuls of Jedi in the comics, as he does Vader in the comics. He fights Vader with a saber and obviously loses and then he comes back to finish him, and he does, with several lasers. All i saw Jango kill was Coleman Trebor. Besides that, he is a wussy, who got his ass whooped. Boba lived on. Jango didn't. Boba obviously was taught and taught himself more tricks later on. As for Durge, he is useless. Grievous would fight Jango and own him. Then boba would kill Grievous.
Emperor Revan
Jango killed many Jedi in the comics and (basically) killed another dark Jedi that was trained by Dooku. No matter which is stronger I think they would be close. As for G.G., he is stronger than the others. I don't see any way Boba could kill the General.
LordSorgo
Originally posted by Emperor Revan
Jango killed many Jedi in the comics and (basically) killed another dark Jedi that was trained by Dooku. No matter which is stronger I think they would be close. As for G.G., he is stronger than the others. I don't see any way Boba could kill the General.
Oh really? I said these exact words in a previous post:
"Boba Fett would demolish General Grievous. For one, Boba Fett would be in the air out of range of Grievous' Lightsabers and even if Grievous tried to shoot Boba with his plastic gun, Boba (With his EXP) would probably shoot Grievous' hand off, or use his Jetpack to remove himself out of the way of the coming blaster shot. Although Grievous could always throw his Lightsaber at Grievous, Being able to use the force and all.
Lets put it this way, Obi Wan, who doesn't have much experience with guns, let alone ANY experience with guns, Shot Grievous dead with his own gun. The gun took a bit to get to Obi wan when he used the force. Of course, Grievous was too dumb to hear or see his own gun being dragged across metal to react. Then Grievous joyfully opened his arms up and said "SHOOT ME, GENERAL KENOBI!" and then Obi proceeded to do the Jedi thing and fullfill Grievous' wish. Grievous wasn't fast enough to do dick all about that laser coming to him, oh but let me guess. He didn't have four arms to block it! Anyone and i mean ANYONE who needs four arms to dodge a laser is pathetic. Hell, he couldn't even use two lightsabers to dodge the laser!
But know this:
Grievous was lightsaber trained my Dooku personally. Dooku knows Makashi (Form II, Way of the Ysalamir). If you read about this form, it is only good for one on one Lightsaber combat, and is not good for dodging lasers. So think about it, Grievous wouldn't be all the good at dodging Boba's guns, rockets and darts, now would he?
One person said that Grievous' armor could withstand a shot from a ship gun. I'm sure Boba has suped up his gun to make it more powerful, plus i doubt Grievous' armor could withstand a rocket, and even if it could (which i truly doubt) part of the explosion could damage Grievous' already shitty lungs, causing him to malfunction and die. Oh and who says Boba wont aim for Grievous' lungs, anyways?"
Here is the link, proving i said that.
General Zodiac
Grievous took a direct hit from a lightsaber on his chest once and he laughed. Before Grievous was tarined to use lightsabers what did he use? Blasters. Grievous would laugh at Boba who death was so funny. Getting eaten by a pit. Hahahahahaha! And Grievous's chest plates were opened revealing his organs.
And Grievous almost killed Boba Fett once already.
Emperor Revan
LordSorgo: Oh please, that's B.S. Fett can't fly forever and Grievous can jump very high, dodging Boba's little rockets. It doesn't take the Force to throw a lightsaber either and he has perfect sensors for it. G.G. wouldn't use his blaster unless need be and Boba's blasters wouldn't help much if the General is twirling four lightsabers so fast it makes a blur. And Greivous knows six of the seven forms, I'm not sure which one he doesn't know but I'm pretty sure he knows Soresu which is great for deflecting blaster bolts. Do you really think he's just gonna stand in one spot too? No. Even if the blaster bolts hit him, it's not gonna go through his armor or else Obi wouldn't have bothered aiming just for his heart.
Now Greivous was kinda stupid when Obi got the blaster but Obi has the Force and can aim perfectly with it. Boba's jet pack can't last for more than 15 seconds I'd say and even if Greivous didn't just jump up and slash him he would wait until Boba went down and he wouldn't be able to dodge coming down.
If Greivous can kill 5 Jedi at once then I think he can beat the guy who lost to Kyle Katarn and later Dash Rendar, both of which couldn't use the Force.
LordSorgo
Originally posted by Emperor Revan
LordSorgo: Oh please, that's B.S. Fett can't fly forever and Grievous can jump very high, dodging Boba's little rockets. It doesn't take the Force to throw a lightsaber either and he has perfect sensors for it. G.G. wouldn't use his blaster unless need be and Boba's blasters wouldn't help much if the General is twirling four lightsabers so fast it makes a blur. And Greivous knows six of the seven forms, I'm not sure which one he doesn't know but I'm pretty sure he knows Soresu which is great for deflecting blaster bolts. Do you really think he's just gonna stand in one spot too? No. Even if the blaster bolts hit him, it's not gonna go through his armor or else Obi wouldn't have bothered aiming just for his heart.
Now Greivous was kinda stupid when Obi got the blaster but Obi has the Force and can aim perfectly with it. Boba's jet pack can't last for more than 15 seconds I'd say and even if Greivous didn't just jump up and slash him he would wait until Boba went down and he wouldn't be able to dodge coming down.
If Greivous can kill 5 Jedi at once then I think he can beat the guy who lost to Kyle Katarn and later Dash Rendar, both of which couldn't use the Force.
1. Dash Rendar gets thrown off of a cliff by Boba. Read the comics.
2. 15 seconds? Wrong. His Jetpack can last plenty of time, as shown on Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy.
3. Who in the F*CK says that Boba is gonna come crashing down towards Grievous when he runs out of Jetpack fluid, which wont be anytime soon. Hell, for all we know, he would land on top of a pillar or something and shoot at Grievous all day.
4. Obi shot Grievous with ONE blaster. A high powered automatic gun and rockets coming towards you aren't the easiest things to dodge, Buddy.
5. Boba has experience killing Jedis, more than Grievous. He has killed more Jedi than Grievous. And he has killed Darth Vader. Read the comics.
6. Yeah sure, Grievous wouldn't be hard to take down, but Boba WOULD pull it off.
7. Um.... If he threw the Lightsaber, it would unignite. Even so, who says Boba wouldn't shoot the hilt or lauch a rocket at it?
8. Obi can aim perfectly with the force? I want significant proof of this. Even so, Grievous couldn't even dodge a single shot with two lightsabers.... That SUCKS!
9. Your PRETTY sure he knows Soresu? Okay... So what! That doesn't mean he is 100% gonna dodge a bullet. C'mon!
Darth Somebody
All depends. General Grievious and Boba Fett - armed - I still don't know. Grievous, in a melee combat, would EASILY EASILY EASILY demolish Boba. Now, I agree. Grievous got killed with a blaster. But he's also faster than Boba, and his reflexes are greater.
Grievious can also use a blaster - I'm sure - and like I said. In melee combat, Boba would get his ass handed to him by four different hands.
Grievous has this one.
LordSorgo
Originally posted by Darth Somebody
All depends. General Grievious and Boba Fett - armed - I still don't know. Grievous, in a melee combat, would EASILY EASILY EASILY demolish Boba. Now, I agree. Grievous got killed with a blaster. But he's also faster than Boba, and his reflexes are greater.
Grievious can also use a blaster - I'm sure - and like I said. In melee combat, Boba would get his ass handed to him by four different hands.
Grievous has this one.
Ok, um....
Can you explain to me why the hell Boba would go near Grievous? Oh, wait, maybe he wants to try to get some candy from him, so he decides he is gonna walk towards four lightsabers....
I DON'T THINK SO!
Grievous sucks at using a Blaster.
General Zodiac
Originally posted by LordSorgo
Ok, um....
Can you explain to me why the hell Boba would go near Grievous? Oh, wait, maybe he wants to try to get some candy from him, so he decides he is gonna walk towards four lightsabers....
I DON'T THINK SO!
Grievous sucks at using a Blaster.
Since Boba wouldn't go near Grievous he wouldn't be able to open his chest plates to reveal his organs. So Grievous would start shooting 5 blasters at Boba Fett. Once Grievous shoots his jetpak and Boba comes crashing down, Grievous would take out his lightsabers and kill him. Grievous killed 5 Jedi at once. Let's see Boba Fett do that.
Emperor Revan
Originally posted by LordSorgo
1. Dash Rendar gets thrown off of a cliff by Boba. Read the comics.
2. 15 seconds? Wrong. His Jetpack can last plenty of time, as shown on Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy.
3. Who in the F*CK says that Boba is gonna come crashing down towards Grievous when he runs out of Jetpack fluid, which wont be anytime soon. Hell, for all we know, he would land on top of a pillar or something and shoot at Grievous all day.
4. Obi shot Grievous with ONE blaster. A high powered automatic gun and rockets coming towards you aren't the easiest things to dodge, Buddy.
5. Boba has experience killing Jedis, more than Grievous. He has killed more Jedi than Grievous. And he has killed Darth Vader. Read the comics.
6. Yeah sure, Grievous wouldn't be hard to take down, but Boba WOULD pull it off.
7. Um.... If he threw the Lightsaber, it would unignite. Even so, who says Boba wouldn't shoot the hilt or lauch a rocket at it?
8. Obi can aim perfectly with the force? I want significant proof of this. Even so, Grievous couldn't even dodge a single shot with two lightsabers.... That SUCKS!
9. Your PRETTY sure he knows Soresu? Okay... So what! That doesn't mean he is 100% gonna dodge a bullet. C'mon!
Well said General Zodiac. Now for me to respond.
1. Play the game, Rendar beats Boba then Boba goes into the Slave 1 and Dash (still on the ground) beats the Slave 1 still.
2. Boba would always come down and he wouldn't stay in the air for long at all. His blasters aren't gonna kill G.G.
3. When Boba starts going down because of his jetpack, Grievous (who's very fast) will go over to where Boba's coming down.
4. Who says Boba has a high powered automic gun? In all the games and movies he just has a single blaster pistol. As for the rockets, did you see how high Greivous jumped? And Boba doesn't have an endless supply.
5. What Jedi were left to kill? And if he killed Vader then why does Vader die later on the Death Star 2?
6. Boba would be hard to take down but Greivous WOULD pull it off.
7. Why would it unignite when he threw it? Did Yoda's or Vader's? No, G.G. just wouldn't be able to call it back witht the Force.
8. Notice how Obi shoots the same spot in his heart even through Grievous' flailing hands. And he didn't have two lightsabers, they were knocked away when the clones came. If he did have them why wouldn't he use them instead of fist fighting?
9. If his forms are good enough to beat more than one Jedi at once then deflecting blaster bolts wouldn't be hard, and even if he misses a few with FOUR lightsabers then it wouldn't matter because his armor's too strong.
SnakeEyes
^ Yeah seriously! LordSorgo, what are you thinking... How could Boba kill Darth Vader if we see him die in ROTJ!
LordSorgo
Originally posted by Emperor Revan
Well said General Zodiac. Now for me to respond.
1. Play the game, Rendar beats Boba then Boba goes into the Slave 1 and Dash (still on the ground) beats the Slave 1 still.
2. Boba would always come down and he wouldn't stay in the air for long at all. His blasters aren't gonna kill G.G.
3. When Boba starts going down because of his jetpack, Grievous (who's very fast) will go over to where Boba's coming down.
4. Who says Boba has a high powered automic gun? In all the games and movies he just has a single blaster pistol. As for the rockets, did you see how high Greivous jumped? And Boba doesn't have an endless supply.
5. What Jedi were left to kill? And if he killed Vader then why does Vader die later on the Death Star 2?
6. Boba would be hard to take down but Greivous WOULD pull it off.
7. Why would it unignite when he threw it? Did Yoda's or Vader's? No, G.G. just wouldn't be able to call it back witht the Force.
8. Notice how Obi shoots the same spot in his heart even through Grievous' flailing hands. And he didn't have two lightsabers, they were knocked away when the clones came. If he did have them why wouldn't he use them instead of fist fighting?
9. If his forms are good enough to beat more than one Jedi at once then deflecting blaster bolts wouldn't be hard, and even if he misses a few with FOUR lightsabers then it wouldn't matter because his armor's too strong.
1.Not talking about the game. Later on in a comic, Dash Rendar tries run Boba over with a Swoop bike, but Boba kicks him off and picks him up and throws him off of a cliff.
2. Maybe not his blaster, but a nice Rocket will. Grievous is NOT invincible. A rocket would penetrate him.
3. I will repeat myself again.... Who says Boba is gonna come to the ground? He could go anywhere.
4. No, he doesn't have a single blaster pistol. He usually has some sort of Automatic Rifle.
5. Boba Fett's EE-3 Blaster Rifle has disentegration capabilites and it has a scope so i am guessing Boba can pretty much aim at the cracks...
6. In order to keep a Lightsaber ignited, you have to be holding the button down. Why do you think when Jedi die, their lightsabers unignite when they let go? Force users, when they throw a lightsaber, hold the button down using the force.
7. Um... Grievous was shot in his lower lung. Oh, so he didn't have the lightsabers? Still, i question his agility for not dodging the laser.
8. Him slaughtering Jedi's has nothing to do with Blaster bolts.
9. Vader gets revived and there is a series of four comic books where Vader and Boba fight. Their first fight is with Lightsabers because Boba decides to keep a green saber off of one of the many Jedi he killed. He loses to Vader but comes back to find him on a Volcano planet (I don't know if it's mustafar for sure) and has a fist fight with him. Vader ignites his lightsaber and Boba jets into the air and shoots him dead.
LordSorgo
Originally posted by SnakeEyes
^ Yeah seriously! LordSorgo, what are you thinking... How could Boba kill Darth Vader if we see him die in ROTJ!
EU. Vader also fights Maul, and kills Maul by stabbing himself.
Emperor Revan
Ok, there's really nothing new except 6. which I will respond to. Maybe you're right, but it looks like they're not hitting the button always. And if you watch TPM, pause put it in slow motion when Obi gets Qui-Gon's lightsaber at the end you will see it turns on without him hitting the button and the button doesn't move. Now I'm sure it's probably just laziness on Lucas' part but you never know...
Now, how would Vader get revived if his body and suit is burnt? If it's a clone it would be whole and wouldn't need the suit. So I don't think it's canon. And as for Maul, that was a clone. A clone's not the real thing. Boba and Jango aren't exactly equal and they're better than the thousands of clone troopers as well. Even still, Maul's clone did very well, winning the fight and Vader had to wound himself to beat Maul's clone.
HimoKun
First, Grevious wouldn't be able to throw his lightsaber. It requires the force to throw very far. Second, Grevious doesn't know any normal lightsaber forms. He uses a unorthodox style. You need the force to do the normal lightsaber styles. Third, Boba Fett's main weapon was a flame thrower mounted on his wrist, a missle, and I think it's either one blaster or two. No high powered rifle. Fourth, Grevious can't block blaster fire since you need the force for that. (If you watch the last episode of the animated Clone Wars series, he doesn't block any fire coming at him, but walks along the wall avoiding it).
And not all lightsabers have a button. some have a switch, and they lock in place.
SnakeEyes
Originally posted by LordSorgo
EU. Vader also fights Maul, and kills Maul by stabbing himself.
Yes I know, I have that comic, which is Star Wars Tales. But, I doubt that Boba really killed Vader. I have a graphic novel where they fight, and Boba ends up running away after a tough battle. If the comic you are talking about does exist, I wouldn't take it seriously. Bad writers= poor stories = things that should never happen.
General Zodiac
Alright. Grievous would defeat Durge...again. If Boba just wants to fly around Jango will kill him.
LordSorgo
Originally posted by Emperor Revan
Ok, there's really nothing new except 6. which I will respond to. Maybe you're right, but it looks like they're not hitting the button always. And if you watch TPM, pause put it in slow motion when Obi gets Qui-Gon's lightsaber at the end you will see it turns on without him hitting the button and the button doesn't move. Now I'm sure it's probably just laziness on Lucas' part but you never know...
Now, how would Vader get revived if his body and suit is burnt? If it's a clone it would be whole and wouldn't need the suit. So I don't think it's canon. And as for Maul, that was a clone. A clone's not the real thing. Boba and Jango aren't exactly equal and they're better than the thousands of clone troopers as well. Even still, Maul's clone did very well, winning the fight and Vader had to wound himself to beat Maul's clone.
It turns on without him hitting the button because he uses the force. Is that not painfully obvious?
Emperor Revan
Yet the button doesn't move, I thought that was painfully obvious.
Master Ferro
Jango is far better then bobba jango killed many jedi was higher trained. Bobba has jango's hand me down crap armor while jango had shing new shit. the only thing bobba has going for him is he's smarter. and booba wouldn't win in a fist fight jango was physiclly stronger
LordSorgo
Originally posted by Emperor Revan
Yet the button doesn't move, I thought that was painfully obvious.
Um....
You know what? I wont even bother explaining it. I'm gonna leave you for a bit and see if you can figure it out by yourself.
LordSorgo
Originally posted by Master Ferro
Jango is far better then bobba jango killed many jedi was higher trained. Bobba has jango's hand me down crap armor while jango had shing new shit. the only thing bobba has going for him is he's smarter. and booba wouldn't win in a fist fight jango was physiclly stronger
I could imagine you could gather proof stating that Jango is stronger than Boba?
Didn't think so.
Boba killed MORE Jedi than Jango, granting him experience.
Jango DIES! Boba does not! Boba lives on to gain respective experience and new skills, plus i'm sure time granted him with better technology, which equals better weaponry.
General Zodiac
Jango is an orphan on the planet of Concord Dawn, home of the heavily-armored supersoldiers, the Mandalorians. Jango is a young boy when the war between the true Mandalorians and a traitorous scion of their ranks begins. Jango is taken in by the Mandalorian leader, Jaster Mereel. Jaster trains Jango to be a warrior, and when Jaster is later murdered by the leader of the mutinous Mandalorians, Jango avenges his death.
When the war is over, the Mandalorians are all but extinct, the remaining few fleeing to the far reaches of the galaxy. Jango, using his combat skills, weaponry, and mercenary mindset, became a bounty hunter, piloting his ship, the Slave I. Jango soon becomes famous for his accomplishments throughout the galaxy, not least of which are the Jedi he killed during the final Mandalorian wars. Despite this, he always considers himself a simple man trying to make his way.
Around the time of the Battle of Naboo, Jango is contacted by a man named Darth Tyranus, who offers him a bounty on his former padawan apprentice, Komari Vosa. Though Jango has to compete with Montross, a former Mandalorian traitor, he succeeds in defeating Vosa, partly with the help of a new ally, a novice bounty hunter named Zam Wesell. Tyranus is impressed; the bounty is a test to determine if the rumors of Jango's skills against a Jedi are true. In addition to the bounty on Vosa, Tyranus offers Jango a tempting sum of money for an unusual task: Jango is to be a template for an army of clones. Jango agrees, and soon millions of clones are created in his likeness at the cloning facility on Kamino. Jango, however, insists that one clone not be subjected to growth enhancement or personality alteration, so that Jango can raise him as a son. His wish was granted, and the clone is named Boba Fett. Contrary to his claims, Jango is aware that Tyranus is also former Jedi Master Count Dooku, the Separatist leader.
Emperor Revan
Originally posted by LordSorgo
I could imagine you could gather proof stating that Jango is stronger than Boba?
Didn't think so.
Boba killed MORE Jedi than Jango, granting him experience.
Jango DIES! Boba does not! Boba lives on to gain respective experience and new skills, plus i'm sure time granted him with better technology, which equals better weaponry.
Why don't you gather proof that Boba is stronger than Jango. What you can't? Didn't think so. You post proof of all the Jedi Boba has killed even though he also lost to Jaden Korr who had barely become a Jedi knight at the time.
As for better weapons and technology, I doubt it. From 4000 years ago in Lord Revan's time, barely anything is different then the 'present' time. 30 years or so probably won't do much.
LordSorgo
Originally posted by Emperor Revan
Why don't you gather proof that Boba is stronger than Jango. What you can't? Didn't think so. You post proof of all the Jedi Boba has killed even though he also lost to Jaden Korr who had barely become a Jedi knight at the time.
As for better weapons and technology, I doubt it. From 4000 years ago in Lord Revan's time, barely anything is different then the 'present' time. 30 years or so probably won't do much.
Some people are so Stupid!
I never tried to proove that Boba is stronger than Jango. That's what your missing. But can you proove that i was trying to determine that Boba is stronger than Jango?
Didn't think so.
Who cares if he lost to Jaden Korr! He left. I am sure he had more important things to do than tango with some dumbass Jedi. Even if he did lose, he didn't die, so who cares.
And i'm sure those of you who played it, lost to Boba at least once, whether you like to admit it or not.
LordSorgo
Originally posted by General Zodiac
Jango is an orphan on the planet of Concord Dawn, home of the heavily-armored supersoldiers, the Mandalorians. Jango is a young boy when the war between the true Mandalorians and a traitorous scion of their ranks begins. Jango is taken in by the Mandalorian leader, Jaster Mereel. Jaster trains Jango to be a warrior, and when Jaster is later murdered by the leader of the mutinous Mandalorians, Jango avenges his death.
When the war is over, the Mandalorians are all but extinct, the remaining few fleeing to the far reaches of the galaxy. Jango, using his combat skills, weaponry, and mercenary mindset, became a bounty hunter, piloting his ship, the Slave I. Jango soon becomes famous for his accomplishments throughout the galaxy, not least of which are the Jedi he killed during the final Mandalorian wars. Despite this, he always considers himself a simple man trying to make his way.
Around the time of the Battle of Naboo, Jango is contacted by a man named Darth Tyranus, who offers him a bounty on his former padawan apprentice, Komari Vosa. Though Jango has to compete with Montross, a former Mandalorian traitor, he succeeds in defeating Vosa, partly with the help of a new ally, a novice bounty hunter named Zam Wesell. Tyranus is impressed; the bounty is a test to determine if the rumors of Jango's skills against a Jedi are true. In addition to the bounty on Vosa, Tyranus offers Jango a tempting sum of money for an unusual task: Jango is to be a template for an army of clones. Jango agrees, and soon millions of clones are created in his likeness at the cloning facility on Kamino. Jango, however, insists that one clone not be subjected to growth enhancement or personality alteration, so that Jango can raise him as a son. His wish was granted, and the clone is named Boba Fett. Contrary to his claims, Jango is aware that Tyranus is also former Jedi Master Count Dooku, the Separatist leader.
Thank you for Jango's history....
General Zodiac
And it's Jango & Grievous vs Boba & Durge. Grievous defeated Assaj and Durge by himself so Durge is no problem. And Grievous has super jumping skills and he can climb walls easily. Boba can't win.
SnakeEyes
Can you possibly tell me when GG defeated Assaj and Durge? Like what Comic issue or book or whatever?
General Zodiac
Dooku was at first taken aback by so bizarre an underling. But he and Darth Sidious saw potential. Dooku began training Grievous in the ways of the lightsaber. He was dismayed that the subtleties and finesse of lightsaber combat had been discarded in favor of brutal, multi-weapon attacks, but so go the changes of war. At his hidden base aboard the Trenchant space station, Dooku pit his minions Asajj Ventress and Durge up against Grievous to determine who would be the commander of the Separatist droid army. Grievous emerged victorious.
http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/generalgrievous/?id=eu
Emperor Revan
Originally posted by LordSorgo
Some people are so Stupid!
I never tried to proove that Boba is stronger than Jango. That's what your missing. But can you proove that i was trying to determine that Boba is stronger than Jango?
Didn't think so.
Who cares if he lost to Jaden Korr! He left. I am sure he had more important things to do than tango with some dumbass Jedi. Even if he did lose, he didn't die, so who cares.
And i'm sure those of you who played it, lost to Boba at least once, whether you like to admit it or not.
What's wrong? You can't take someone using your own logic against you and you have to try and insult me to make yourself feel better or what?
Let's see, Boba lost to Kyle Katarn who couldn't use the Force, Boba lost to Dash Rendar even in the slave 1 and Dash can't use the Force (I know you said the comics supposedly showed Dash getting thrown off a cliff but even if that's true, he survived unscathed. Boba got launched into the Sarlaac accidentally by Han Solo. Boba also lost to Jaden Korr who was barely a Jedi knight. Yes I admit I lost to Boba once or twice but it's really rare.
Now let's look at Jango. He took down the Bando Gora which was thought to be pretty impossible, he defeated the leader which was a Dark Jedi with two lightsabers trained by Count Dooku, he escaped death in Gardulla's palace without weapons, turned the tide and killed Gardulla herself, broke into and out of Oovo IV which is the maximum security prison of the entire galaxy, also said to be basically impossible, defeated Obi-Wan Kenobi (twice you could say), killed that Jedi in AOTC, others on this board have said he killed dozens of Jedi, but I'm not for sure on that, and Jango lost to Mace who was able to defeat Sidious, not to mention Jango's jetpack was unexpectedly damaged by the Reek before his death.
General Zodiac
Plus at of all the bounty hunters in the galaxy he was chosen to be cloned by Count Dooku and Sidious.
Emperor Revan
Yep. Boba was tricked by Jacen and Jaina too I forgot to mention.
LordSorgo
Originally posted by Emperor Revan
What's wrong? You can't take someone using your own logic against you and you have to try and insult me to make yourself feel better or what?
Let's see, Boba lost to Kyle Katarn who couldn't use the Force, Boba lost to Dash Rendar even in the slave 1 and Dash can't use the Force (I know you said the comics supposedly showed Dash getting thrown off a cliff but even if that's true, he survived unscathed. Boba got launched into the Sarlaac accidentally by Han Solo. Boba also lost to Jaden Korr who was barely a Jedi knight. Yes I admit I lost to Boba once or twice but it's really rare.
Now let's look at Jango. He took down the Bando Gora which was thought to be pretty impossible, he defeated the leader which was a Dark Jedi with two lightsabers trained by Count Dooku, he escaped death in Gardulla's palace without weapons, turned the tide and killed Gardulla herself, broke into and out of Oovo IV which is the maximum security prison of the entire galaxy, also said to be basically impossible, defeated Obi-Wan Kenobi (twice you could say), killed that Jedi in AOTC, others on this board have said he killed dozens of Jedi, but I'm not for sure on that, and Jango lost to Mace who was able to defeat Sidious, not to mention Jango's jetpack was unexpectedly damaged by the Reek before his death.
Mace defeated Sidious? I'm not going through that either. I am not creating another Arguement.
What's wrong? You can't take someone using your own logic against you and you have to try and insult me to make yourself feel better or what?
Boba may have "lost" to Jedi, but put it this way, he never died from any, or to nail it down, he was never beheaded by any.
1. Boba took down his imposter, Jodo Kast.
2. Boba also took down an Imperial Death ship single handedly.
3. Boba killed Darth Vader.
4. Boba has killed alot more than a dozen Jedi. The reason he does this is obviously because his father was killed by a Jedi.
5. Wow, Jango lasted two seconds with his Jetpack down. Actually, i think it was five seconds? or was it six? I saw some Droids doing better shooting than him.
6. Yeah so Boba gets launched into a Sarlacc by suprise. He doesn't die, but comes back more powerful than ever.
7. Boba joined a rank of stormtroopers, but was kicked out after he killed twenty eight other troopers and his commanding officer.
8. Boba Fett has killed many Jedi, but only spared one because he was holding his son before Boba killed him, bringing back some memories for Boba.
9. Boba dispatches a well known Teras Kasi Fighter with his own hands.
LordSorgo
Originally posted by General Zodiac
And it's Jango & Grievous vs Boba & Durge. Grievous defeated Assaj and Durge by himself so Durge is no problem. And Grievous has super jumping skills and he can climb walls easily. Boba can't win.
Grievous never defeated Asajj! Hell, they never fought. Asajj never died and will probably be in the new live series.
Darth_Glentract
Originally posted by LordSorgo
3. Boba killed Darth Vader.
When the heck did that happen?
LordSorgo
I sat down and read a comic at a comic store a while back. I don't remember the name of the comic, but i do remember that Boba had found a lightsaber and tried using it against Vader but lost. Later on, Boba has a hand to hand fight with Vader. Vader pulls out his lightsaber and Boba jets away and shoots at Vader. After about three shots, Boba clips Vader three times and he falls into the Lava. (they were on a lava planet, dunno if it was mustafar.)
Darth_Glentract
Originally posted by LordSorgo
7. Boba joined a rank of stormtroopers, but was kicked out after he killed twenty eight other troopers and his commanding officer.
I believe that was Jaster Meerel, Jango's father figure after Concord Dawn. Boba just let the rumor continue to add to his rep. That's the SW story anyway. What really happened was people thought that he was an ex-imperial, but that was before ep2. Now, they have created the Jaster Meerel character to make up for that major plothole.
Darth_Glentract
Originally posted by LordSorgo
I sat down and read a comic at a comic store a while back. I don't remember the name of the comic, but i do remember that Boba had found a lightsaber and tried using it against Vader but lost. Later on, Boba has a hand to hand fight with Vader. Vader pulls out his lightsaber and Boba jets away and shoots at Vader. After about three shots, Boba clips Vader three times and he falls into the Lava. (they were on a lava planet, dunno if it was mustafar.)
maybe it was an infinti. I would like to know the name if you have it. I do remember hearing about the duel, but I heard that Boba lost and Vader felt Boba not worthy of having the weapon and took it from him, but felt him worthy of life and let him go. Anyway, for all that crap on the other threads, peace man.
LordSorgo
Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
I believe that was Jaster Meerel, Jango's father figure after Concord Dawn. Boba just let the rumor continue to add to his rep. That's the SW story anyway. What really happened was people thought that he was an ex-imperial, but that was before ep2. Now, they have created the Jaster Meerel character to make up for that major plothole.
OH MY GOD! No! At the time, Boba was pretending to be Jaster Meerel. I KNOW THAT FOR A FACT!
Admiral Akbar
I agree with sorgo about this one. He is absolutley correct.
Darth_Glentract
Originally posted by LordSorgo
OH MY GOD! No! At the time, Boba was pretending to be Jaster Meerel. I KNOW THAT FOR A FACT!
Maybe. I dont know a lot about that. I do know that Jaster was thought up as a way to solve all of those books saying Boba was an Imperial when he was really a clone of Jango. As far as I know, Boba let people continue to think he was Jaster because him capturing a bounty on Tatooine one day and then the day after that a bounty in Helska IV really adds to reputation.
LordSorgo
Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
Maybe. I dont know a lot about that. I do know that Jaster was thought up as a way to solve all of those books saying Boba was an Imperial when he was really a clone of Jango. As far as I know, Boba let people continue to think he was Jaster because him capturing a bounty on Tatooine one day and then the day after that a bounty in Helska IV really adds to reputation.
No, he was trying out to be an imperial, and he killed 28 soldiers and a commander.
Darth_Glentract
Jaster did that. People thought it was him, he let them because it akes him seem more fearsome. Anyway, I agree, Boba is better than Jango.
Darth_DaNThEMaN
well ive come back only for today to announce this......
lordsogo is a f*ckin idiot.
Darth_Glentract
come on dan. he can be a little bitchy at times, but overall he is an ok guy
LordSorgo
Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
Jaster did that. People thought it was him, he let them because it akes him seem more fearsome. Anyway, I agree, Boba is better than Jango.
No, not Jaster. Jaster had died long before Boba Fett had done this. This was when Boba was pretending to be Jaster.
LordSorgo
Originally posted by Darth_DaNThEMaN
well ive come back only for today to announce this......
lordsogo is a f*ckin idiot.
I'm not happy you came back to annouce my name followed by a blocked out cuss.
But thanks for wasting time for me.
Darth_Glentract
I copied this off of my SW site. It's in chrono order yet, but may be soon. Lots of Mandalorian history for you.
At this time, it may be prudent of me to mention that Jango Fett was first stumbled upon by Jaster Mereel when Mereel and the other Super-Commandos were fleeing a battle with the Death Watch. The MAndalorians were hunted to Mereel's own homeworld, Concord Dawn, where the Death Watch followed them.
Jango Fett's father was a "Mandalorian", par say, for Concord Dawn had long been a colony-world of the Mandalorians, used mostly to grow food and stock for the MAndalorians. It's harsh climate didn't really allow the Mandalorians an easy planet with which to train their troops, so they made do. But many of the colonies, including Concord Dawn, had long before fallen from the grasp of the Super-Commandos, lost in some Republic hierarchy.
Mereel and his family were some of the last "true blooded" Mandalorians, for they, unlike most others on Concord Dawn, (who had bred with lesser Human blood), had stronger genes and longer lives. They could endure more pain than many others of the planet. The people of the planet were mostly of a darker skin-tone than on the other Mandalorian colonies, but this was not so with MEreel's family: they were as ghostly-white as any other in the galaxy at large.
The Death Watch showed up on the planet, hunting the Super-Commandos. Mereel and his troops hid.
Jango's father tried to stick up for the Mandalorians, for he'd seen them hiding and remembered that he too was a Mandalore, no matter how much lesser. He was killed by the Death Watch, and so too was Jango's mother, and the rest of their family.
Jango ran into the crops, which the Death Watch were lighting aflame, and he helped the Super-Commandos escape into tunnels that ran to the nearest town.
At the town, the young Jango Fett, (probably barely more than seven), was able to kill the Death Watch soldier who had killed his family. Jaster then took him as a sort-of "son", a pupil, and returned to the Mandalorian homebase with Jango in tow. Jango Fett fought with the Super-Commandos for probably over 20 years, still a pupil under Mereel, until the fateful battle on the world of Korda 6, when Mereel was left behind for dead by Montross....(see above for brief explanation of the battle of Galidraan).....
Before being recruited by Dooku, Fett single-handedly defeated a "Sith" named Komari Vosa, (I believe), and he also killed the traitor Montross in a duel, (see Bounty Hunter Video Game).
As said in AotC, the only other thing Jango Fett demanded other than his substantial pay for being Cloned, was one, completely unaltered Clone for himself.
This unaltered Clone would be known as Boba Fett. Jango had asked for this because he was sure that he was far beyond the age fit to have a child, and to begin to "raise a family".
For nearly ten years, Jango Fett personally trained both the Clonetroopers and his own "son" Boba, rigourously (sp?) leading them all under the ancient fighting-techniques of the Super-Commandos, (edged fimly in-place with some Echani fighting-style as well).
There were some Clones, however, who were on different levels of "independent thinking": some Clones could actually think for themselves entirely, while most of the other more "independent" Clones only had a small amount of "independent thought". These Clones could be arranged in this order:
Advanced Reconnaisance Commando (ARC) Troopers> "Jango-like", because they were the most advanced, "independent" Clones, capable of rational and "independent" thought, not only guided by the will to carry out a mission. Jango Fett initially trained 30 batches of 30 ARC Troopers. around the time of the Clone Wars, a ragtag team of Mandalorians claiming to be the "Super-Commandos" came forth and began to fight on the side of the Republic. It was believed that somehow Palpatine had conned the local leader into selling some of his troops....
Boba Fett, during the Clone Wars, grew quite rapidly, shedding his young image and joining the Super-Commandos near the end of the Wars. He hated the Jedi, but he respected the Republic. An odd choice.
He had his dealings with General Grievous, Dooku, and even the "Jedi Hunter" Aurra Sing during the Wars, though many of young Fett's activities went unnoticed and unrecorded. Cassus Fett was a Mandalorian Mercenary and Bounty Hunter, (as were his descendants). He was very good, but he was eventually caught by Republic forces after sabotaging a ship for 16, 000 credits. He was put on trial, and executed - but his mysterious son carried on the Fett's legacy....
Ah, Mandalore "the First", was first seen about 40 years before KotOR during the Exar Kun War, when he banded his forces and people together, and fought for the Sith. He was arrogant, and foolish, and I believe he died at the hands of Exar Kun.
His successor, "the Second", led the Mandalorians into the Mandalorian Wars - but he was eventually killed in a one-on-one duel with Revan, the Jedi Knight, before he/she turned to the Dark Side.
His successor, "the Third", disbanded the Mandalorian Forces, and turned his armies into nothing but weak mercenary bands. He was killed by Revan on the Rakatan homeworld.
Mandalore "the Fourth", was Canderous Ordo. This Mandalore again made the MAndalorians strong, bringing together the many ragtag-clans still out there. And after the War against Darth Nihilius, Mandalore led his troops to again found Mandalore the planet, where they began to take shape as a race once more. After the Clone Wars, and after Palpatine went before the Galactic Senate and proclaimed himself Emperor under the tenents of the New Order, the Mandalorians were again all but forgotten and dumped.
During the Wars, the Separatists had attacked the world of Mandalore, devastating it's cities and peoples. Palpatine promised to revive order in the sector, and to help rebuild the planet for all the Mandalorians had done.
But he lied, and Mandalore lay in decay.
After the Wars, Boba Fett travelled throughout the Galaxy-at-large, yet he eventually settled on his father's homeworld of Concord Dawn. He lived a quite normal life there, but in the end, his stay was cut short: he followed in the footsteps of Jaster Mereel to a startling degree.
Mereel had once been a Journeyman Protector on the planet, but he had been exiled for killing a fellow Protector, though the Protector was supposedly "corrupt". Well, he wasn't really exiled: he escaped his execution, and was named-in-exile.
Boba Fett did this as well, though the man he killed was indeed a corrupt official. Still, murder was murder on Concord Dawn, and Boba Fett under the name of Mereel was taken before a trial, where he uttered the words:
"Everyone dies.
It's the final and only lasting Justice. Evil exists; it is intelligence in the service of entropy. When the side of a mountain slides down to kill a village, this is not evil, for evil requires intent. Should a sentient being cause that landslide, there is evil; and requires Justice as a consequence, so that civilization can exist.
There is no greater good than Justice; and only if law serves Justice is it good law. Is is said correctly that law exists not for the Just but for the unjust, for the Just carry the law in their hearts, and do not need to call it from afar.
I bow to no one and I give service only for cause."
Darth_Glentract
The whole Mandalore the first, second, third, and fourth thing is wrong, but most of it is right.
General Zodiac
Originally posted by LordSorgo
Grievous never defeated Asajj! Hell, they never fought. Asajj never died and will probably be in the new live series.
Dooku was at first taken aback by so bizarre an underling. But he and Darth Sidious saw potential. Dooku began training Grievous in the ways of the lightsaber. He was dismayed that the subtleties and finesse of lightsaber combat had been discarded in favor of brutal, multi-weapon attacks, but so go the changes of war. At his hidden base aboard the Trenchant space station, Dooku pit his minions Asajj Ventress and Durge up against Grievous to determine who would be the commander of the Separatist droid army. Grievous emerged victorious.
http://www.starwars.com/databank/ch...grievous/?id=eu
LordSorgo
Originally posted by General Zodiac
Dooku was at first taken aback by so bizarre an underling. But he and Darth Sidious saw potential. Dooku began training Grievous in the ways of the lightsaber. He was dismayed that the subtleties and finesse of lightsaber combat had been discarded in favor of brutal, multi-weapon attacks, but so go the changes of war. At his hidden base aboard the Trenchant space station, Dooku pit his minions Asajj Ventress and Durge up against Grievous to determine who would be the commander of the Separatist droid army. Grievous emerged victorious.
http://www.starwars.com/databank/ch...grievous/?id=eu
Um... He killed Durge and Asajj ran.
LordSorgo
Boba killing his fellow men happened twice.
1. Killed fellow protector
2.Killed 28 soldiers and commander
Darth_Glentract
That was Jaster not Boba
General Zodiac
Originally posted by LordSorgo
Um... He killed Durge and Asajj ran.
What are you talking about!? Grievous had to fight Durge and Assaj to see if he would be the leader of the droid army which he did! Grievous didn't kill them stupid. Durge was killed by Obi-Wan and you saw Assaj get defeated by Anakin. Know your information before posting.
Gen. Grevious
Durge wasnt killed by obi wan...obi wan only cut of his limbs...in which he regenerated.
LordSorgo
Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
That was Jaster not Boba
Your wrong!
The comic SHOWS boba killing his officer and the troops.
LordSorgo
Originally posted by General Zodiac
What are you talking about!? Grievous had to fight Durge and Assaj to see if he would be the leader of the droid army which he did! Grievous didn't kill them stupid. Durge was killed by Obi-Wan and you saw Assaj get defeated by Anakin. Know your information before posting.
Anakin doesn't defeat Asajj, considering Asajj leaves Anakin a nice scar.
And durge wasn't killed by Obi Wan, SHIT STAIN!
Gen. Grevious
Yeah you got it wrong mate i was going to say those clear facts before but thought i could be wrong...I saw Durge get cut up by Obi wan but then once oBi left he just restored his limbs and went on his way....
exanda kane
Obi Wan i think actually kills Durge after cutting him up, he gets trapped inside Durge and Durge eventually explodes . . .
Gen. Grevious
really...when does this happen i havent seen it...is it in the clone war mini series or comics?
the-unforgiven
I have not read the entire thread, so i do not know what you have desided.
Boba Vs Grievous = Boba walks victorious out of the battle, with non injures.
Durge Vs Jango = Would be quite even, but boba is more skilled than Jango, and when boba is done with grievous, Jango is going down.
Boba Vs Jango = Boba victorious.
Durge Vs Grievous = Grievous would be the winner.
End result = Both Boba and Durge would be alive, and kicking on grievous dead body, but boba will then take care of Jangos dead body.
Insane Monk
"hs successor, "the Third", disbanded the Mandalorian Forces, and turned his armies into nothing but weak mercenary bands. He was killed by Revan on the Rakatan homeworld"
That guy wasn't Mandalore. He was just a mandalorian leader who's clan or squad or attack force or whatever crashlandes on the Rakatan homeworld. Canderous was the next Mandalore after the one killed in the Mandalorian Crusades. Also, jetpacks can't stay in the ait forever. Only for as long as, about 10-20 seconds. THIS INCLUDES Boba's. It says so in the New Essential Guide to Weapons & Technology.
darthsith19
Jango and Grievous. Jango could beat Boba (Boba got beaten by blinded Solo and Jango had a draw with Kenobi). Since GG has beat Durge before he can do it again. Or at least chop him into pieces, i doubt anything he could do would kill the near invincible Durge.
jollyjim311
i say Boba and Durge, even if it's not NJO Boba. Boba does have ion guns you know and could defeat GG(even without them, I think). Durge is barely worse then Jango, and Boba alone could take Jango. all Durge would need to do is hold off Jango.
ps- thanks for the info Glentract, that is assuming it is correct,
DarthMaul9123
boba and jango could go either way... nobody knows exactly beyond the shadow of a doubt which is better but durge is not nearly a good enough challenge for gg
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