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In between seminars at the mutant powers are ok weekend. On break Wolvie and Sabes where talking about hot chicks in marvel and logan said that MJ was a real looker.

Sabes said that he was going to have to check it out. Sabertooth tracks her down, She and Peter are together and Peter senses something strange... He sees that it's Sabes and notices that he is over (more than usual) drooling while gazing at MJ.

Sabes starts making lude coments about what his mutie friend had told him about logans experiances with MJ.

Can Spiderman take out Sabes to save the day and keep his girl furless? It happens downtown NYC.

No. Sabretooth wins.

He already beat Spiderman before he got adamantium and a strength/speed upgrade.

tough very tough. without upgrades of sab=Spidey
but with upgrades it is damn hard, Spidey would take 3.5/10 with a plan.

He had a plan with the regular Sabretooth, and he had help from the Punisher. He still got his ass whooped, so did Punisher.

He ran through them like he was bad curry. Once, when Spiderman tried to use his webbing on Creeds face, creed pulled it off, bringing half his skin/face with it, and still faught like it was no biggie.

Didnt read the issue but i know what happended after this. Sabre escaped from the hospital and tracked Peter. Then Black Cat arrives and kicks his ass. Well if she can do it why not Spidey?

No, that was waaaayyy before what I'm talking about.
Black cat faught sabretooth before he even had a healing factor or any super strength.

It was before he ever met Wolverine, his character was super ill defined at that time.

I think that Spiderman wins this because he is stronger and faster, Sabretooth has the durability but it wont count for much in my opinion if he doesnt manage to hit Spidey. I say that Sabretooth wins this 3 or 4/10.

Creed win and he has adamantium, he crushes Spidey.

Dude, Spiderman does NOT have superior strength toSabretooth anymore, Creed is near 15 class, spidey is 10 class. Creed is possibly as fast or faster than Spidey too.

His healing factor is better than wolverine's, and he's got adamantium claws too. And he's an expert fighter.

Spiderman can't win this.

sorry but Spidey is Class 15. He had a upgrade too. After the whole Queen insect Story he become stronger, some kind of telepathy and organic webbing.

Creed most likely wins, but I don't know about easily, seeing as he has to get spiderman on his terms to fight him.

Spider-Man could simply stalemate by staying out of reach. But if he tries to fight Creed head on he will likely end up losing.

SPIDEY you can Do it use your spider-sense

Why does everyone forget about that.

He can but it isn't as super easy as some would say on each sides.

Sabretooth is wolverine on steroids with less fighting skill.

According to some, strength and speed don't matter in a fight, so obviously sabrettoth's abilites are not to be counted, right? He should just be a slightly less skilled wolverine.

In all honesty, though, this is a much fairer fight, than spiderman vs. wolverine, as sabretooth has near strength, but cant travel with agility, and climb walls and stay away, and no precog.

In a meleeabrettoth, in a distancepiderman.

BEFORE UPGRADES:

we all saw how fast wolverine was in spidey's mind....sabretooth's always been faster than wolvie....

fighting ability...sabretooth is one notch below wolverine...but wolverine's even stated them as being "superb" in any case his fighting ability clearly outclasses spiderman's regardless....

strength....sabretooth KNOCKED ROGUES ASS THE **** OUT in 3 HITS....he also went toe to toe with mrs. marvel in a hit for hit slugfest and was winning......he THEN proceeded to beat the ever loving crap out of killpower, a guy who stalemated hercules in an arm wrestling match, has enhanced speed and superhuman reflexes and is an expert fighter (in fact he almost tore his head off)....he can obviously trade blows with peter....

durability....like I said mrs. marvel was laying into him with little to no affect and I quote..."wow, any ONE of those punches would have pulverized a normal human...it took a score just to knock sabretooth down." hell she was even about to attempt a nerve pinch but found it useless because sabretooths muscles were as tight and "strong as steel cables"....he got hit with a bolt of lighting and didn't even fall down...rogue gave him a flying punch out of a scyscraper and he got up from that....wolverine's even been shocked to see that sabretooth's healing facter was faster acting than his own....he can obviously take anything spiderman dishes out....

agility....sabretooth's been noted to have the agility of an olympic level athlete...so while he may not have an advantage here he's still got some....

feats....sabretooth's humiliated punisher and spiderman at the same time....


WITH UPGRADES:

spidey dies...end of story..

go by your own logic on that one, he cant touch him from a distance.

Regardless I said he loses more often than not.

Black Cat kicked his ass where he hadnt his upgrades.
Thats really strange.

Its before the popularity kicked in, no offense to anyone.

What I'm tring to say is that people should think objectively and see that spiderman is clever enough to defeat an opponent like this, even if he does lose alot, it wont be THAT easy.

My logic on this is: If Spidey can beat Wolverine, he can beat Sabretooth.

Marvel has completely f*cked up the continuity and consistency of
their characters. Does debating this crap even matter anymore???
Does anybody know just how fast Wolvie or Sabre heal???
Does anybody know just how strong Wolvie or Sabre actually are???
These arguments have come down to who you like better.
Does anybody even know anymore?????



Jarvis can press between 800 lbs - 250 tons.
Aunt May can, by some accounts, heal from a nuclear warhead.
I wish Stan Lee would barge into Marvel headquarters and go postal.

Indeed, the Xfactor characters have gone past their boundaries indeed.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
My logic on this is: If Spidey can beat Wolverine, he can beat Sabretooth.

on average..spiderman can't beat wolverine..........wolverine can't beat sabretooth....thus......spiderman can't beat sabretooth...

or you can just go to the direct comparison....spiderman and punisher can't beat sabretooth....thus spiderman can't beat sabretooth...

Spiderman CAN beat wolveirne, not HAS.

maybe he hasn't because he can't....on average...

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Spiderman CAN beat wolveirne, not HAS. Despite trying?

I can teleport 50 miles away. Despite attempting to and failing. Because I CAN not HAS.

Creed was enhanced from Weapon X and Sinister.Sinister's squad of "Superman", guys with superstrenght, speed, flight, optical blasts, resistance to injuries, were scared of Sabretooth.
He possess superhuman strenght above that of Spidey, between Class 15/20, durability, endurance, limitless stamina and regenerative powers, superhuman reflexes, adamantium claws and bones, superhuman senses, he's as old as Wolvie if not more, he possess hth training as C.I.A. agent and other fightning skills tough he prefers to be more up, close and brutal than use his skills.
He took out the skin from Wendingo recently.
Spidey is going down.

Originally posted by K3VIL
Creed was enhanced from Weapon X and Sinister.Sinister's squad of "Superman", guys with superstrenght, speed, flight, optical blasts, resistance to injuries, were scared of Sabretooth.
He possess superhuman strenght above that of Spidey, between Class 15/20, durability, endurance, limitless stamina and regenerative powers, superhuman reflexes, adamantium claws and bones, superhuman senses, he's as old as Wolvie if not more, he possess hth training as C.I.A. agent and other fightning skills tough he prefers to be more up, close and brutal than use his skills.
He took out the skin from Wendingo recently.
Spidey is going down.

seriously...why this is even up for debate I don't know...

Originally posted by Creshosk
Despite trying?

I can teleport 50 miles away. Despite attempting to and failing. Because I CAN not HAS.

there's a certain percentage of making sense, unless you can convince me otherwise, to have 1% idea of you teleporting.

spidey loses, unless he wall stalemates.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
there's a certain percentage of making sense, unless you can convince me otherwise, to have 1% idea of you teleporting.

I can teleport because I can, not because I have.

Even though I've tried before. And Failed.. .

But I can teleport because I can! Not because I have. . .

Originally posted by Creshosk
I can teleport because I can, not because I have.

Even though I've tried before. And Failed.. .

But I can teleport because I can! Not because I have. . .

Are your chances to lift 10 pounds greater than lifting 1000?

Bump.

So guys what can Iron Spidey do against Sabretooth?

I keep reading people's opinions stating that Sabretooth is as strong (or even close to as strong) as Spider-Man...... anyone got any scans to prove this? I've read quite a few stories featuring Sabretooth and i don't recall him being anywhere near the strength levels alleged in this thread

If he was able to lift 10.... or even 2-3 tonnes then he would never have been trapped like this:

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I also see people referring back (a lot) to that Spider-Man/Punisher/Sabretooth crossover claiming that Sabretooth embarrassed both of them as if they were working together.... yet no-one seems to remember that Spider-Man spent most of his time trying to keep Sabretooth and Punisher from killing each other .... and in fact he saved both their lives during that encounter

Not once during that story did Spider-Man and Sabretooth square off for a one on one fight

Sabretooth is neither as strong nor as fast as half his supporters seem to believe

It could go either way, but I'm going to put my fatih in Spidey here, just because he's more resourceful than Sabes, and has better reflexes.........

Originally posted by Scoobless
I keep reading people's opinions stating that Sabretooth is as strong (or even close to as strong) as Spider-Man...... anyone got any scans to prove this? I've read quite a few stories featuring Sabretooth and i don't recall him being anywhere near the strength levels alleged in this thread

If he was able to lift 10.... or even 2-3 tonnes then he would never have been trapped like this:

Sabretooth is neither as strong nor as fast as half his supporters seem to believe This is just bad writing on Greg Rucka's part. Wolverine also manages to pop his claws through Sabretooth's skull in that issue......even though Sabretooth has an adamantium skeleton?????
Hell Wolverine without adamantium has shoved cars around with just upper body strength and no leverage before. It's rediculous that Rucka has Sabretooth unable to do the same.

Sabretooth also destroys the Native after previously not even being able to SEE her move and getting pawned. Rucka was just very inconsistant in his handling of the character.

And as far as speed goes: Wolverine has never had trouble hitting Spider-Man. Sabretooth is faster than Wolverine. It's academic.

Rucka sucks..... uh oh.... I made an opinion... nevermind.

Originally posted by Rick/Genis
Rucka sucks..... uh oh.... I made an opinion... nevermind. Rucka's decompressed writing style sucks for sure. His run on Wolverine was the quickest read of this fanboy's life. His Wonder Woman was equally slug-like.

I didn't like White out Either... I'm just not a fan of Rucka's work

I REEEEALLY didn't like his writing at the beginning of Wolverine.. Fighting friggin' hicks and cops!? WHAT THE ****!!!! HOW BULLSHART IS THAT!?!?!

Originally posted by Rick/Genis
Rucka sucks..... uh oh.... I made an opinion... nevermind.
doh

though in this particular instance I agree...


as far as sabretooth not being able to get out... he didn't have a lot of time to do so, nor leverage to do so... but I stand with riceroost on this one he's absolutely correct.

I wasn't a fan. Although Wolverine did get laid twice.

Even though I think he was related to the Native. Somethin' wrong with Rucka.

two cent time:

http://img150.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sabes6bq.jpg

http://img150.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sabes21ax.jpg

http://img150.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sabes38fy.jpg

http://img150.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sabes44fe.jpg

well daredevil has faced him without superstrength i beleve, i got it, on scans

Spidey would beat Sabertooth.

i aggree

I swear I made a thread on this ages ago.

u proberly did but we got loads of newcomers in now so may aswell dbate on this

Originally posted by AJ4LIFE
well daredevil has faced him without superstrength i beleve, i got it, on scans


Yep, thats a great fight

yeh do u have it aswell

Originally posted by jinzin
two cent time:

http://img150.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sabes6bq.jpg

http://img150.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sabes21ax.jpg

http://img150.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sabes38fy.jpg

http://img150.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sabes44fe.jpg
I really hope you don't call that a fight between Sabes and Spidey ? Spider-Man was talking to Punisher all the time (no, don't kill him !), he punched Sabes, Sabes grabbed Spider-Man and Sabes escaped (because Pun and Spider-Man were in each others way) and that's it.

Some fight. Sabretooth is overrated on these forums, if I didn't know better, I'd think he's class 30 with Quicksilver speed.

Hardly.

true he wasnt useing full potential

Originally posted by AJ4LIFE
yeh do u have it aswell

I don't own the issue but I have read it

no. I call it sabretooth humiliating spiderman and having spiderman at his mercy...

yeh its cool that fight

ive posted and posting a loads of fights in comic section have a look whoever

Originally posted by jinzin
no. I call it sabretooth humiliating spiderman and having spiderman at his mercy...
I think it's time for new glasses. But hey, we all read what we want to read

yeah i guess... mr. "wolverine was begging! beggin I tells ya"

pffft..

Time for me to analyze the fight.
http://img150.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sabes6bq.jpg
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Sabretooth did NOT have Spidey at his mercy. If he was soooo able to kill Spider-Man there, then why did he run away? Also, Spidey was trying to keep Castle from killing Sabretooth. That's the truth there. I noticed how the whole fight wasn't here though.
http://img266.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spidermanpunishersabretoothdes1.jpg
http://img367.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spidermanpunishersabretoothdes.jpg
Yeah. He's definately getting past Spidey's precog.
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Up to this point, he can hardly take bullets, yet he's tough enough to take Spidey's punches, which are 15 tons of force, since Spidey is bloodlusted.
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Sabretooth had Punisher at his mercy at the end of that. Spidey when he wasn't trying to stop Castle from killing Sabretooth, ripped Sabretooth around like a little girl. That's the whole battle.

Originally posted by jinzin
yeah i guess... mr. "wolverine was begging! beggin I tells ya"

pffft.. pffffffffffffttttt tt. To be fair, that sounds funny coming from mr. "Joker didn't help Batman beat Carnage @ all" Just messin' w/ya.

Spidey takes this though.

http://img150.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sabes44fe.jpg

you call THIS not being at sabretooth's mercy?

also in terms of brute strength
mrs marvel>>>>>>>>>>spiderman
luke cage>>>>>>>>>spiderman
iron fists iron fist>>>>>>>>>spiderman
wendigo>>>>>>>>>>spiderman
juggernaught>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>spiderman
rogue>>>>>>>>>>>>spiderman
killpower>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>spiderman
shiva>>>>>spiderman

yeah it would seem he CAN take a class 15 spiderman punch...

the punisher putting him down with bullets is ambiguous... seems like everytime punisher shoots someone with a healing factor his bullets do more damage than when other people shoot guys with healing factors.. lol.. but I digress.. sabretooth could have been playing possem.. he's done it before with other prey... it's also a well known fact that his healing factor is faster acting than wolverine's and wolverine takes hundreds of bullets per sitting...

finally deadpool tried to fill sabretooth full of lead recently... sabretooth bitchslapped him for his troubles.. whether you like it or not spiderman has relatively little chance of winning this fight.

p.s. where the hell did you come up with this dilusion that sabretooth ran away after he dropped the ceiling on pun and spidey? he states exactly why he's in a rush to leave, he states it twice infact.. wtf?

I say that Spidey wins this jsut about every time.

SABERTOOTH!!!!!!!


GGGGGRRRRR!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by Milkie
SABERTOOTH!!!!!!!


GGGGGRRRRR!!!!!!!!
yes

Originally posted by Metalmanx
My logic on this is: If Spidey can beat Wolverine, he can beat Sabretooth.

so then... he can't beat sabretooth.. cause.. well.. he's failed to beat wolverine..

I actually see spidy winning this since he will be smart and at first stay a distance away form sabes but then sabes will find him and spidy will dodge his attactk flip over him punch him a few times then as sabes turns around to slast him reapeat and reapeat this method for a while he could win. Or he coul get in close spray him so he cant move and before he breaks out attact him with many punches.

Both have good chances.

Errm, I'm always in favor of Spiderman in the Spiderman vs. Wolverine threads. Sabertooth though? He is Wolverine on PCP. And then some. This is in Sabertooths favor. I doubt it would be the curb stomp some are making it out to be, but Sabertooth definitely takes the majority.

I agree, nither has an overwhelming victory in this fight

Originally posted by jinzin
so then... he can't beat sabretooth.. cause.. well.. he's failed to beat wolverine.. Again not that this is important, but no he hasn't... and he said can, and Spiderman can beat wolverine... I hope you aren't saying he can't at all. I feel like scorpion is somehow going to end up on this thread now...

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Again not that this is important, but no he hasn't... and he said can, and Spiderman can beat wolverine... I hope you aren't saying he can't at all. I feel like scorpion is somehow going to end up on this thread now...
sure he has.. he's failed time after time after time...



also
scorpion WOULD KICK THE CRAP OUT OF AKUMA!


lol.. no I was just being funny... I really don't think metalman gave a decent enough reason to think what he thinks.. even going by the falshood that spiderman automatically takes wolverine.. that doesn't prove he can take sabretooth cause sabes takes wolverine all the time too.... it was just faulty logic on his part.. but it was probably built up by misconceptions... but mostly I was just being funny..

Originally posted by drwerwer
I actually see spidy winning this since he will be smart and at first stay a distance away form sabes but then sabes will find him and spidy will dodge his attactk flip over him punch him a few times then as sabes turns around to slast him reapeat and reapeat this method for a while he could win. Or he coul get in close spray him so he cant move and before he breaks out attact him with many punches.

punches aren't going to do anything but make spiderman tired.. spiderman can't even put wolverine down with punches.. mrs. marvel wiped herself out just trying to knock sabretooth down with punches and that was all before his upgrades..