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Superman vs Quasar

Hmmm. I've seen Quasar stand up to guys as powerful as Supes, but I haven't seen him take too many of them down. Good fight, and I wouldn't be 100% on this, but I'd give a pretty big edge to Supes. I just think that if Thor really wanted to he could take Q out, and I put Supes on about the same level...besides, he's been around numerous GL's and this won't be much different.

-DM

agreed. thor was holding back in a fight against quasar and was smashing his constructs. supes could do the same. be a pretty tough fight though, i think.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Hmmm. I've seen Quasar stand up to guys as powerful as Supes, but I haven't seen him take too many of them down. Good fight, and I wouldn't be 100% on this, but I'd give a pretty big edge to Supes. I just think that if Thor really wanted to he could take Q out, and I put Supes on about the same level...besides, he's been around numerous GL's and this won't be much different.

-DM

Don't forget about Superman's weakness

You do remember what Polaris did to Superman

Quasar takes it

Thor has his hammer to reflect Quasar Construct

No, actually. What did Polaris do to Supes? Quasar wouldn't know Superman's weakness though. And besides that, Q would need to act quickly because Superman's at least Thor's equal in most categories, and he'd be able to smash plenty of constructs and get to Q rather quickly.

-DM

Originally posted by DigiMark007
No, actually. What did Polaris do to Supes? Quasar wouldn't know Superman's weakness though. And besides that, Q would need to act quickly because Superman's at least Thor's equal in most categories, and he'd be able to smash plenty of constructs and get to Q rather quickly.

-DM
According to forum rules he knows

and He will find out Cosmic awareness

Who says thor can beat Quasar?

And Superman is no Thor .

Thor does well fighting with people like Quasar Superman doesn’t

Well, the recent crossover I keep hearing about seems to differ (Supes floors Thor with little trouble). He's at least as fast and as strong, and has his laser vision and other random powers to augment him overall. I agree that Thor is better suited for certain types of fights, and probably somewhat better against Quasar...but that doesn't mean Supes wouldn't beat him too.

And who says Thor can beat Quasar? Marvel, apparently. Leo referenced a good example above.

If there's something I'm missing, like Quasar just being able to quickly drain Supes of his energy or something, then maybe I'm wrong. But I think Supes would make toast out of Q before that happens.

-DM

Recent Crossover JLA/Avenger?
Supes cannot floor thor , Thor will beat superman ( magic)



They have battle nobody won , if quasar plays his cards rite he can beat Thor.



Yup Quasar get's 10/10 with that technique

Originally posted by kgkg




Yup Quasar get's 10/10 with that technique What exactly is Q gonna drain from Superman?

Originally posted by snoopdogg
What exactly is Q gonna drain from Superman?
Not drain he can stop his powers just like Polaris

That’s a cheap way out; like that he can win 10/10

Normal fighting he can still win 6/10

He has made construct big as skyscraper in second, and used it as a weapon, can channel any source of power.

Sun, Stars, even Superman himself and back fire at them

Originally posted by snoopdogg
What exactly is Q gonna drain from Superman?

The same thing Triumph did. Solar energy. Solar ATP was a lie.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
The same thing Triumph did. Solar energy. Solar ATP was a lie. The only way to drain Superman is to touch him. Thats been documented countless times.

Superman wasnt fighting Triumph either.

Did you read the issue?

Originally posted by snoopdogg
The only way to drain Superman is to touch him. Thats been documented countless times.

Superman wasnt fighting Triumph either.

Did you read the issue?
Have you seen what Polaris did to Superman?

Should I post scan?

Even without weakness Quasar is too good

Originally posted by kgkg
Have you seen what Polaris did to Superman?

Should I post scan?

Even without weakness Quasar is too good Yes please do.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Yes please do.
Any one of these can do this to Superman

Silver Surfer
Magneto
Quasar

Etc

Originally posted by kgkg
Any one of these can do this to Superman

Silver Surfer
Magneto
Quasar

Etc Yep that looks painful

Has Q ever drained somebody of their power?

Oh and by the way Supermans reserve energy is stored ATP.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Yep that looks painful

Has Q ever drained somebody of their power?

Oh and by the way Supermans reserve energy is stored ATP.
Quasar can do that he drained

Without power Supes is next to dead against someone like Quasar.

Well without cheap shit Quasar should still take 6/10 , 7/10

Supes is just physically stronger than Quasar that’s all

If he hasnt drained somebody why would you assume he would do it to Superman?

Originally posted by snoopdogg
If he hasnt drained somebody why would you assume he would do it to Superman?
Quasar has drained? Buddy what do you think Quasar’s powers are

He used Silver Surfer powers against him

He can tap, and drained any light/ and energy near infinite amount of it with his bands

I know what his powers are kgkg. But has he ever drained somebody of their power? In battle?

Better yet has anybody ever completely drained Superman of his power? I dont think they have.

Starbreaker drained Superman(or so he thought) and yet Superman still had enough juice to smash his way through a planet.

Trust me kgkg draining Superman is easier said than done

Tried to use Surfers powers against him. But i see your point.

I dont think Quasar can drain Supes fast enough to affect him. Plus with Superman getting powered from the sun at the same time, it would be like a rotating door.

Could go either way.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Trust me kgkg draining Superman is easier said than done
if polaris can do that

Quasar can do it faster , and better , not to mention he can do a lot more shit that Polaris

did you see that battle Snoop?

Originally posted by jrodslam
Tried to use Surfers powers against him. But i see your point.

I dont think Quasar can drain Supes fast enough to affect him. Plus with Superman getting powered from the sun at the same time, it would be like a rotating door.

Could go either way.
Look at the fight with Polaris , didn't take time

Originally posted by kgkg
Look at the fight with Polaris , didn't take time Was he actually fighting her?

I may have the issue. What it is?

kgkg I have a question for you.

Has Superman ever been truly defeated by somebody draining his power?

Yes or no.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Was he actually fighting her?

I may have the issue. What it is?
yep, i gotta look search in Google Polaris vs Superman they should tell you issue number

It doesn't take time? Where did you get that? or Jrod

And Quasar is much better than Polaris , and has lethal power to hurt supes without tricks

Originally posted by kgkg
It doesn't take time? Where did you get that? or Jrod



From Quantum Zone. Quasar site.

Also Quasar has never shown to drain someone instantly. Its always after some time. Example: Surfer, Adam Warlock, Her.

Originally posted by jrodslam
From Quantum Zone. Quasar site.

Also Quasar has never shown to drain someone instantly. Its always after some time. Example: Surfer, Adam Warlock, Her.
Polaris has done it

Quasar can drain Unlimited Energy?

Are you saying supes solar powers will be to great.

Remember it's not like cosmic, he just absorb regular sun light.

he managed to use SS powers , Sun is his forte

Superman isn't at a cosmic power level. I'm sure he doesn't hold as much energy as Adam Warlock, Her, or Surfer.

Originally posted by kgkg




Are you saying supes solar powers will be to great.



How do you know they are not?

Superman has never been defeated with this technique.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
How do you know they are not?

Superman has never been defeated with this technique.
Polaris

defeated if he doesn't have 100% energy he isn't going to beat Quasar.

like I said even without tricks quasar should take 6,7 /10 he can use supes power against him

Superman has been weakened but never defeated.

Q is in trouble homies.

How can you judge a fight you have not read? Give me a issue # on Polaris and Superman.

Originally posted by kgkg
Polaris has done it

Quasar can drain Unlimited Energy?

Are you saying supes solar powers will be to great.

Remember it's not like cosmic, he just absorb regular sun light.

he managed to use SS powers , Sun is his forte

No no kgkg. Im saying that he'd never completely drain Supes because Supes is always being powered. It would be like a rotationg door.

Quasar drains while Supes is getting. Like i said before its not a quick process with Quasar. Its not like WHAM! Supes is drained.

Though it would be easier than cosmic, but im just saying that Superman is constantly being recharged at the same time.

From the scan showed, it was said that Supermans powers were "slowly fading". But he didnt seem affected.

Originally posted by kgkg
like I said even without tricks quasar should take 6,7 /10 he can use supes power against him

I dont think that would be a good idea for him kg.

If he drains Superman of his solar energy and shoots it back at him, wouldnt Superman just absorb it back?

Hed better change something or hes screwed.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Superman has been weakened but never defeated.

Q is in trouble homies.

How can you judge a fight you have not read. Give me a issue # on Polaris and Superman.
Weakened once he is out of energy, One hit from Quasar will knock him out. He isn't superman without his powers

Q is in trouble how, simple energy rings Thing couldn't move , Thor had to use all his a lot of effort to break simple construct.

When Quasar is using his power , he can amplify that to 100X power powerful

He made skyscraper(size of) like construct and used that as a weapon, if it's so hard for the likes of thor , thing etc to break simple construct supes.

Not only that he can use any source to amp his powers, and has used his opponent powers and back fired at them

am not saying Supes can't win , if Quasar decides to be cheap not much he can do.

Originally posted by jrodslam
No no kgkg. Im saying that he'd never completely drain Supes because Supes is always being powered. It would be like a rotationg door.

Quasar drains while Supes is getting. Like i said before its not a quick process with Quasar. Its not like WHAM! Supes is drained.

Though it would be easier than cosmic, but im just saying that Superman is constantly being recharged at the same time.

From the scan showed, it was said that Supermans powers were "slowly fading". But he didnt seem affected.
Read the issue , search Google for it , I will try to find it

Superman once drained was tossed like a rag doll

Yes he does get his powers back, but not only can quasar Darin him , but also stop in sups from absorbing solar energy.

Originally posted by kgkg
Yes he does get his powers back, but not only can quasar Darin him , but also stop in sups from absorbing solar energy.

Now THAT my friend is what you have to prove. How does Q stop Supes from absorbing solar energy?

But i do agree. Once and if Superman is totaly drained of his power, he loses. No doubts about that.

Originally posted by kgkg


Yes he does get his powers back, but not only can quasar Darin him , but also stop in sups from absorbing solar energy. Superman has been absorbing solar power his whole life. He has never been completely drained that I am aware of and I read alot of Superman.

People seem to forget he has solar reserves stored chemically. Q cant touch the reserves.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Superman has been absorbing solar power his whole life. He has never been completely drained that I am aware of and I read alot of Superman.

People seem to forget he has solar reserves stored chemically. Q cant touch the reserves.
Superman has been using solar energy his entire life, too. Using his powers, whether it's strength, speed, flight, or heat vision, uses solar energy. Superman hasn't been sitting on his ass sunbathing his entire life. He uses sunlight simply by living.

If Superman were completely drained, he would die.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Superman hasn't been sitting on his ass sunbathing his entire life. If Superman were completely drained, he would die.

Case in point Cosmic

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Case in point Cosmic

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Superman has never been fully drained or even remotely close.

You guys always say use what you read in comics. Superman has never lost t his way.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Superman has been absorbing solar power his whole life. He has never been completely drained that I am aware of and I read alot of Superman.

People seem to forget he has solar reserves stored chemically. Q cant touch the reserves.
You don't get what am saying do you.

Polaris manage to make superman weak (in seconds)

It took him a while to get his powers back ----- he was getting his ass kicked, while he was drained, he wasn’t completely drained, but enough to get his ass kicked.

And Polaris didn’t continue to absorb all of it ---- think what would happened if Polaris went all out with that.

Quasar can drain, and also stop from more energy to be absorbed by superman.

Quasar controls all light.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Superman has never been fully drained or even remotely close.

You guys always say use what you read in comics. Superman has never lost t his way.

True, but all I'm saying is that Superman doesn't have 30 years (or however old he is) of sunlight stored in his body. Even if Superman Prime used his powers enough, he would eventually be drained. Quasar could make him lose his power much faster, making him much weaker.

Originally posted by kgkg
Quasar can drain, and also stop from more energy to be absorbed by superman.

Quasar controls all light.

yeah, Quasar can cut Superman off from the source of his powers by creating a containment construct.... basically a really strong box or something

Originally posted by Scoobless
yeah, Quasar can cut Superman off from the source of his powers by creating a containment construct.... basically a really strong box or something
Quasar is too powerful

Simple construct can hold peepz like the thing

Quasar was able to drain energy from the Infinity Gauntlet.
He stalemated Silver Surfer, it's enough to give him this fight 9/10.

Originally posted by K3VIL
Quasar was able to drain energy from the Infinity Gauntlet.
He stalemated Silver Surfer, it's enough to give him this fight 9/10.
He also lost to Klaw

Originally posted by K3VIL
Quasar was able to drain energy from the Infinity Gauntlet.
He stalemated Silver Surfer, it's enough to give him this fight 9/10.

When did Quasar absorb energy from the IG? I know he TRIED it, but wasnt able to.

He said "I havent been able to tap into the energy of his Infinity Gauntlet unless hes projecting some of it."

Thus he never really did it.

Originally posted by whirlysplat
He also lost to Klaw
Superman was throwed around from Venom.
Wolverine killed Lobo.
Black Panther and Tony Stark were kidnapped while they were in Stark Industries labs, a place which possess security systems far above the technology of U.S. Government.
Wanna stay here and talk about all the crap events in comic book history?

Originally posted by K3VIL
Superman was throwed around from Venom.
Wolverine killed Lobo.
Black Panther and Tony Stark were kidnapped while they were in Stark Industries labs, a place which possess security systems far above the technology of U.S. Government.
Wanna stay here and talk about all the crap events in comic book history?

All good points generally Quasar loses to powerful people

Originally posted by whirlysplat
All good points generally Quasar loses to powerful people
Quasar loses buddy, Quasar kicks ass.

Superman will break few construct but he will get ass kicked.

Quasar made a skyscraper construct and used it as hammer.

Now think that hitting superman.

Thor had hard time breaking simple construct

Originally posted by kgkg
Quasar loses buddy, Quasar kicks ass.

Superman will break few construct but he will get ass kicked.

Quasar made a skyscraper construct and used it as hammer.

Now think that hitting superman.

Thor had hard time breaking simple construct

Thor is weaker than Supes Only reason Thor has a chance is his magic hammer

Originally posted by whirlysplat
Thor is weaker than Supes Only reason Thor has a chance is his magic hammer
The festival of dumb smileys, only in whirlysplat replies.
Put here a proof of Thor being weaker than Supes or shut up.

Quasar wins.

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
He also lost to Klaw

Like this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/vsklaw.jpg

Superman will be begging for his life just like he did here:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/siphonenergy.jpg

Did you not even read any of my previous post on this pic?

Obviously not.

If Quasar tries to absorb him Supes can absorb the energy back as fast as it's been taken out.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/SupesAOS647.jpg

Shit so anyone light based is Supes *****

aint everyone supes *****

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
Shit so anyone light based is Supes ***** Ruin thought that Supes was out of juice cause kept shooting him with red sun-light.

He was sadly mistaken. Supes absorbed his power back within seconds.

Quasar absorbed Ego into himself even where even The Surfer failed:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/maximumsecurity3265qp.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/maximumsecurity3291nq.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/maximumsecurity3352jq.jpg

Absorbing Surfer's power cosmic simultaneously while fighting him:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/quasar050375su.jpg

What's a sun anyways compared to the power of the Quantum Bands

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/ttpps0931db.jpg

How does Superman win again?

Oh, that's right... Backed by his awesome fans and their ability uncanny ability to not see the obvious.

Originally posted by Adam Warlock
Quasar absorbed Ego into himself even where even The Surfer failed:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/maximumsecurity3265qp.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/maximumsecurity3291nq.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/maximumsecurity3352jq.jpg

Absorbing Surfer's power cosmic simultaneously while fighting him:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/quasar050375su.jpg

What's a sun anyways compared to the power of the Quantum Bands

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/ttpps0931db.jpg

How does Superman win again?

Oh, that's right... Backed by his awesome fans and their ability uncanny ability to not see the obvious.

And yet you have the awesome ability to miss the fact that BOTH Quasar and Surfer needed a machine to absorb Ego's bio energy.

Surfer nearly died. Quasar had to leave the planet.

Supes loses to Quasar but it won't be that easy to beat him.

Originally posted by Adam Warlock
Superman will be begging for his life just like he did here:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/siphonenergy.jpg

Begging for his life? He was trying to reason with him. Supes just stated the obvious. IF you drain my cells, I'll die...doesn't mean that he did..especially considering this is what happened afterwards...

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/avalonofthewind/trimphpunch.jpg

Yup...Supes was wasted...

q needs to be in contact with the energy source to drain it -- ie he was absorbing ss's bolts, used the machine to absorb ego. he's not gonna stand there and absorb supes energy. supes gets his hands on q it's all over . . . q's pretty tough, but supes takes this.

Originally posted by Adam Warlock


How does Superman win again?

Oh, that's right... Backed by his awesome fans and their ability uncanny ability to not see the obvious. Replace WonderWoman with Superman in this pic and there you have it.

Only faster.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/WWandQuasar1.jpg

Originally posted by leonidas
q needs to be in contact with the energy source to drain it -- ie he was absorbing ss's bolts, used the machine to absorb ego. he's not gonna stand there and absorb supes energy. supes gets his hands on q it's all over . . . q's pretty tough, but supes takes this.

Surfer couldn't absorb Ego even with Reed's tech. So that means Quasar > Surfer. We all know that Surfer could very well own Supes in many different ways.

He doesn't need to be in contact with an energy source to drain it.

Cosmic Awareness will tell him the source of Superman's powers. He has a direct link with Epoch, the source of cosmic awareness. He could very well do the things listed below to Superman:

1. Quasar could drain his cells just like Polaris did.

2. Quasar could drain the sun leaving Superman to use up all his power within his cells via leaving him powerless.

3. Dump Superman into the Quantum Zone.

4. Create a construct so powerful that even Supes won't be able to break it, then toss him in the Quantum Zone.

What is Supes gonna do to Quasar? Punch him? That's it. That is all he can do. Quasar is just as fast Supes, so speedblitzing will be out of the question. Heat Vision is useless againt Quasar since it is another form of energy.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Replace WonderWoman with Superman in this pic and there you have it.

Only faster.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/WWandQuasar1.jpg

Just like Wonder Man breaking Kyle's constructs. Not once, but twice.

Quasar > Polaris.

Polaris drained Supes

Freeze breath?

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Freeze breath?

Unless it's magic or a psionic attack, it ain't getting through his constructs. Their have been rare cases of PIS where physical strength has broken these constructs. Normally, The Avengers and the entire Imperial Guard can't get through his constructs.

Originally posted by Adam Warlock
Just like Wonder Man breaking Kyle's constructs. Not once, but twice. WTF does that have to do with anything?

Originally posted by Adam Warlock
Unless it's magic or a psionic attack, it ain't getting through his constructs. Their have been rare cases of PIS where physical strength has broken these constructs. Normally, The Avengers and the entire Imperial Guard can't get through his constructs.

See:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/field.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/field2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/quasar032126xd.jpg

Originally posted by Adam Warlock


1. Quasar could drain his cells just like Polaris did.
Superman can absorb as fast as he is being drained. Havn't you been paying attention?Originally posted by Adam Warlock


2. Quasar could drain the sun leaving Superman to use up all his power within his cells via leaving him powerless. Has Q ever done that. Besides that takes time to do. While he is draining the Sun Superman will just give him the "Thor-buster".Originally posted by Adam Warlock


3. Dump Superman into the Quantum Zone. Who has he done this to?Originally posted by Adam Warlock


4. Create a construct so powerful that even Supes won't be able to break it, then toss him in the Quantum Zone.

That's not gonna happen as WW proved.

Originally posted by Adam Warlock
Just like Wonder Man breaking Kyle's constructs. Not once, but twice. But Wonderman could not overcome the power of the "Thor-buster".

-EDIT-

Originally posted by snoopdogg
While he is draining the Sun Superman will just give him the "Thor-buster". Who has he done this to? That's not gonna happen as WW proved.

1. Quasar will put up a construct like this around Superman With this construct up, he can take all the time he needs to Drain the sun or whatever else heeds needs to do.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/field2.jpg

2. Then proceed to drain the Sun like this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/ttpps0504tp.jpg

3. Or dump Supes into the Quantum Zone where Supes will spend the rest of his days

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/quasar20206iz.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/quasar20215tc.jpg

Originally posted by snoopdogg
But Wonderman could not overcome the power of the "Thor-buster".

Thor-Buster cheap shot from behind? Sure. Do you think Supes would let a Kyle die like that? Nope. He is Superman after all.

Q is not containing Supes with a constructs. That is just silly to think that. Supes draws energy from more than just a yellow Sun to you know.

Is Quasar gonna absorb all of the stars also? He does get power from yellow and white stars.

Quasars only chance is to put him into the Q-zone. But it appears he has to touch you to do that. Getting that close to Superman is not good for your health.

And besides that is not really fighting it's just avoiding getting your @ss kicked.

Absorbing Supes has neve been proven to actually work.

absorb the sun?eer

er, no . . . "unless i contain it . . . it could turn into a moniature sun" sounds a bit like hyperbole, but that aside, it was a nuclear reaction that MAY have turned into a 'mini' sun IF he didn't stop it first, which he did.

how in all the hells did you get -- he could absorb the sun -- from THAT scan?

i doubt he'd want supes touching him, as snoop said, to take him to the q-zone. if as you say he could drain supes, he could ALSO do the same to ss -- except he couldn't because ss replenished his energies as quick as they were siphoned off. what makes you think supes absorbs energy at a rate less than ss? and as snoop pointed out, he gets energy from ALL the yellow and white stars, not just our star.

so . . .

(1) he can't 'drain his cells'. if he could he would have been able to do the same to ss unless you can prove supes energy absorbtion<ss ambient cosmic energy absorbtion

(2) no, he cannot 'drain the sun'. drain the sun? he'd also of course be killing everyone on earth even if by some MIRACLE he could do it, so in NO WAY is it viable.

(3) dumping in the q-zone would mean letting supes grab him -- he'd have more to worry about than taking him to the q-zone if that were the case.

(4) he could try and make a strong enough construct but if thor would smash them, supes could, and he would likely exhaust himself with the effort.

supes wins.

(1) he can't 'drain his cells'. if he could he would have been able to do the same to ss unless you can prove supes energy absorbtion<ss ambient cosmic energy absorbtion

Yep.. ~~~!!!

Supez win via vibrating his molecules ultra-fast, he turns invisible, gets close, Thor buster punch his face, and then ICE AGE_MELTING vision Q's eyes from point-blank !!!

Absorb the sun hilarious.

Star = Sun

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/star.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/star10.jpg

Can Supes take on a Watcher? Quasar owned one.

really? where? and that first scan you used didn't help your case at all about his absorbing a sun. the latest one doesn't do much either -- he absorbed SOME of the power of a sun. you don't honestly think he absorbed all the sun and destroyed it, do you? no proof of that. even his blast wasn't powerful enough to destroy the planet! besides, absorbing stellar energy and redirecting it supes might not be the best idea in the world. even if it's red, snoop has shown scans that it doesn't seem to do to much to him . . .

and IF q did somehow beat a watcher, it must have been loaded with pis/cis or some other plot device. he couldn't even beat thor or ss and both are WELL<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<watcher . . .

Originally posted by Adam Warlock
Can Supes take on a Watcher? Quasar owned one.

This is a joke right?

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
This is a joke right? It did happen. It's not really a huge owning like AW makes it sound, but Quasar does come out looking alot better than the Watcher. Scans below...

1. http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/7559/vswatcher11iu.jpg
2. http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/6163/vswatcher23uw.jpg
3. http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/6167/vswatcher35ok.jpg
4. http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/9716/vswatcher44cl.jpg
5. http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/8593/vswatcher58mx.jpg


It is a bit PIS-ish. But alot of people are underestimating Quasar in this thread. He's top tier (about the smae level that Kyle Rayner is IMO) and could definately beat Superman. Could he beat Superman a majority of times? Probably not. I'd give Superman 6/10 against Quasar. But Quasar makes him work for it.

has anyone pointed out that quasar's constructs are very vulnerable to magic? so thor should be able to EASILY break through them. superman doesn't have the same luxury.

Yeah... that dome held back Gladiator, Hulk, Thing, Hercules... I think Thanos, Moondragon, Adam Warlock, etc eventually decided to break out, and the combined efforts of both them and all the people outside the dome eventually shattered it. That's a huge freaking load of power though, especially when Superman would be hard pressed to take many of them individually with raw strength.

Triumph still WAS draining power from Superaman. It's debatable whether Superman even could have pulled off the cheap shot if Steel had not provided a distraction. And as to the "it's never happened, so it won't" logic... Has ANYONE permenantly beaten Superman? No... That's why he's still alive. That's not a really good argument.

Sun absorbing isn't happening, but a very dense dome and some energy siphoning? Quite possibly. Superman's energy has been siphoned, but this tactic has failed largely due to the fact that Supes regains it very quickly. But if Quasar can create a box that can hold Superman and prevent him from absorbing any more sunlight while draining him, how can Superman possibly hope to win? (box held Glads, Hulk, and Hercules, among others, Superman's energy CAN be drained)

Exploitable weakness, Quasar takes 8/10. 2 times he forgets his master strategy or concentrates too much on the drainage and not enough on the shield.

Originally posted by Lucid Lui
It did happen. It's not really a huge owning like AW makes it sound, but Quasar does come out looking alot better than the Watcher. Scans below...

1. http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/7559/vswatcher11iu.jpg
2. http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/6163/vswatcher23uw.jpg
3. http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/6167/vswatcher35ok.jpg
4. http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/9716/vswatcher44cl.jpg
5. http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/8593/vswatcher58mx.jpg


It is a bit PIS-ish. But alot of people are underestimating Quasar in this thread. He's top tier (about the smae level that Kyle Rayner is IMO) and could definately beat Superman. Could he beat Superman a majority of times? Probably not. I'd give Superman 6/10 against Quasar. But Quasar makes him work for it.

I had no doubt that it happened, I just take Sentrys description of things....lightly. Thanks for the scans though. You are right, I would hardly call that 'owning'...though it was impressive on Quasars end.

Here's Supes owning a "Watcher" as well...
http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/4702/superman60980cw.jpg

Originally posted by Dizzle


Triumph still WAS draining power from Superaman. It's debatable whether Superman even could have pulled off the cheap shot if Steel had not provided a distraction. And as to the "it's never happened, so it won't" logic... Has ANYONE permenantly beaten Superman? No... That's why he's still alive. That's not a really good argument.

Only beacause Supes was not fighting back. He was trying to help Triumpth.

If Supes was actually fighting he would not have been in that situation.

Originally posted by Lucid Lui
It did happen. It's not really a huge owning like AW makes it sound, but Quasar does come out looking alot better than the Watcher. Scans below...

1. http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/7559/vswatcher11iu.jpg
2. http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/6163/vswatcher23uw.jpg
3. http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/6167/vswatcher35ok.jpg
4. http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/9716/vswatcher44cl.jpg
5. http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/8593/vswatcher58mx.jpg


It is a bit PIS-ish. But alot of people are underestimating Quasar in this thread. He's top tier (about the smae level that Kyle Rayner is IMO) and could definately beat Superman. Could he beat Superman a majority of times? Probably not. I'd give Superman 6/10 against Quasar. But Quasar makes him work for it.

i agree with the bulk of this. q DOES have a chance -- i said a long time ago it wouldn't be easy -- and he may take a couple. i think dizz is way off in his estimation. i'd say 7/10 supes. i still don't see those constructs holding, and the willpower it would take him to do that would exhaust him. again, he tried draining ss and couldn't -- why would he be able to drain supes?

Originally posted by leonidas
i agree with the bulk of this. q DOES have a chance -- i said a long time ago it wouldn't be easy -- and he may take a couple. i think dizz is way off in his estimation. i'd say 7/10 supes. i still don't see those constructs holding, and the willpower it would take him to do that would exhaust him. again, he tried draining ss and couldn't -- why would he be able to drain supes?

Once a construct is done, he doesn't have too concentrate anymore. It doesn't disappear like GL constructs.

i understand that, but supes would keep breaking them until he finally grew too tired. it HAS happened in the past. supes would put so much pressure on him, he would tire again.

ss versatility>quasar's which is why i say ss in that fight. q CAN win some, but supes takes the majority, methinks.

Originally posted by Adam Warlock
Once a construct is done, he doesn't have too concentrate anymore. It doesn't disappear like GL constructs. In Rann/Thanagar war Kyle created a construct in a barren planet with a liveable atmosphere so the people could live on the planet.

Quasar 9/10

bump

Quasar wins.