Sonic and Shadow vs. Link and Dark Link

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General Zodiac
Sonic and Shadow defeated Mario and Wario but can they defeat a more powerful opponent? Will their 'Super' forms be enough?
Sonic and Shadow
vs.
Link and Dark Link
The Hero of Time at his age of 17 in OoT and his dark side must unite to defeat Sonic and Shadow. Who will be the greater hero and dark counterpart? You decide.

Hoshi
link and shadow link would rape their ass

General Zodiac
Can they really hit something as fast as Sonic and Shadow?

CorderaMitchell
they have bombs and such, they don't go THAT fast.

General Zodiac
CHAOS CONTROL!!!! And they go a lot faster then Link even on his horse.

CorderaMitchell
Link sets bomb, BAM!!

General Zodiac
Shadow uses Chaos Control gets out of bombs way. Sonic goes Super Sonic and laughs at bomb.

CorderaMitchell
Are you aware of links abilities, and I don't see Super Sonic in the thread.

xxxpoppunker182
which link are you talkin about? link 1 2 3 or 4

General Zodiac
Link OoT.
Sonic can beat Link.
Shadow will beat Dark Link.
Are you aware of Sonic's abilities?

Hoshi
link is the hero of time, if shadow use chaos control link use song of time

Trigun King
sonic and shadow hands down.

CorderaMitchell
Originally posted by General Zodiac
Link OoT.
Sonic can beat Link.
Shadow will beat Dark Link.
Are you aware of Sonic's abilities?

Dude, I've probably have been playing sonic before you were born, you sound like a fanboy. Sonic winds because he's so fast, big whoop, what attacks will he use, hwo will he direct his attacks?

Robotnik nails him fine, with bombs, Link>Robotnik. wink

General Zodiac
Sonic has homing attack and spin dash plus his lightspeed attack. Link would never be able to defeat Perfect Chaos, Final Hazard, or Metal Overlord. Shadow is the ultimate life form with Chaos Control, chaos spear, homing attack, spin dash, lightspeed attack, plus he's already faster then both Link and Dark Link.

Hoshi
link will use a spin attack that catch all over the place and kill both of them

General Zodiac
It doesn't go above. Which is the way Sonic normally attacks.

Hoshi
he atracts them to a river and ,turn into zora and use thethunder barrier

General Zodiac
Sonic and Shadow can't swim. They won't go in the river. They'll team up on Dark Link while Zora Link is waiting for them.

CorderaMitchell
Then the river is thier weakness. I'm not saying they can't win I'm saying you're giving them too much credit.

General Zodiac
And your not with Link? he sets a bomb so Sonic is drawn into the bomb? Plus Sonic can run on water and Shadow can fly.

M Hoshi 89
if link turn into oni link he will kill both of them with his energy disks, he will sure hit at least one of them before his magic runs out .Dark link can teleport and catch shadow in a blink of an eye

General Zodiac
If Sonic and Shadow went 'Super' Oni Link wouldn't stand a chance. And Shadow can teleport...Chaos Control?

M Hoshi 89
oni link is far more powerfull if you are talking about destruction power

General Zodiac
Oni Link can still be hurt. Super Sonic and Super Shadow takes direct blasts and only spins around.

General Zodiac
And the 7 Chaos Emeralds gives them unlimited power.

Hoshi
for limited time, after their time is over they are screwed

General Zodiac
50 seconds is all the time they need.

Hoshi
it is impossible for them , even in super form to cause much danage or defeat any of the links.Sonic and Shadow cant be hurted in their universe , because in zeldas universe they will be screwed with links master sword , since the description of the m sword is:Can cut anything that his wielder wants, only if his wielder isnt a bad person of course.

General Zodiac
Sonic and Shadow will do what they did with the Final Hazard. Super Sonic beats up Oni-Link for a bit then they switch. And Shadow will use Chaos Spear, Chaos Control, and Chaos Blast.

Hoshi
and link will probaly just lose one heart since his power is far superior than sonic and shadow , even the super versions of them

General Zodiac
No. the Chaos Emeralds again gives them unlimited power. That mask doesn't.

Hoshi
unlimited power? when i saw they destroying that spaceship it didnt look so unlimited power

General Zodiac
Oni Link couldn't hold back Ark. Sonic would just become Hyper Sonic and do an attack that destroys all enemies around him.

Hoshi
and oni link would stand there without several injuries,the oni link is almost invincible, and if link hit any one of them they would be cut as if they were in their normal form

General Zodiac
Stand their and fight Majora and do nothing see how long Oni-Link lives. And not Majora's Mask, Majora's Wrath. And the 7 Chaos Emeralds together equal a power that would be able to block the master sword.

Hoshi
no, it isnt even close to it

General Zodiac
The Master Sword can cut through anything? When I was fighting an Iron Knuckle it sure didn't cut through it from the front.

Hoshi
the master sword is the strongest sword in all nintendo universe, the chaos emeralds could only hold its power if they at least the strongest thing sega has, and it isnt.Since the master sword is made by the gods of hyrule

General Zodiac
The Baggorn's Sword is stronger. The Master Sword needs like 3 hits to kill those spider thingys and the BS needs 1.

Hoshi
you mean big goron?It is right in terms of brute strengh , but the master sword only reveals its true power when it is needed, that is why link kill ganon with the master sword, and not with the big goron sword in the last part of oot

Darkstorm Zero
Sorry to disagree with you Hoshi, but in this instance Zodiac is right, Supersonic is completely Invincible as long as he has a healthy supply of Rings.

However, you forgot one tactic that Link has that can save the day for him... He can outlast Sonic's Super transformation with techniques like Nayru's Love, Mirror shield and Faries.

Once the Rings have run out, just catch Sonic with Din's Fire and it's all over.

General Zodiac
Oni Link wouldn't be able to use the master sword anyways.

Hoshi
yeah , but i dont think super sonic or super shadow are so invencible that they cant be beaten by guys with the power of oni link, at least they can be matched up in terms of power

Darkstorm Zero
It's impossable to measure infinite power, thats probably why it's temporary, just like Mario's Star Power

Hoshi
i still dont believe that super sonic can take a full hit from oni link without being hurted, even gods would be at least hurted by that attack

Darkstorm Zero
Dare to beleive Hoshi.. stick out tongue

Although I find t kinda stupid that Super Sonic can survive anything short of... Falling into a Hole!... you end up asking yourself "WTF?"

General Zodiac
Oni-Link's power comes from that mask which has dark powers. Oni-Link isn't temporary because he is far from invinicble. Super Sonic and Super Shadow are temporary because other wise you will never be able to be defeated. Oni-Link can't use the Master Sword because of the mask's dark powers and his items like bow and hookshot. Super Sonic can do lightspeed attack which Oni-Link wouldn't be able to stop of Super Sonic and Super Shadow would use Chaos Control and teleport Link and Dark Link into space like Ark where the die.

Hoshi
link could teleport them back with his ocarina, and he could just teleport them to the moon of majoras mask and fight there , where the light is weaker and the darkness is stronger

General Zodiac
So Link would be able to play the OoT with no air and freezing temp. that would freeze him?

Hoshi
when link uses his ocarina the times freeze too

Hoshi
and he uses magic to play his ocarina

General Zodiac
No. That's the game so you don't get hit. But as soon as Link goes into space it's over. Because it also does that with the Fairy and the Wind Stick thingy from TWW.

Hoshi
in fact link already gone to space , it was supposed for him to go there and meet the three gods, but they cut this part from the original game,almost forgot that his triforce protects him against this kind of things.If you dont believe me go to zelda.com

General Zodiac
According to the story of The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time, the chronologically earliest of the games, the Triforce was bestowed upon the world by the three goddesses Din, Nayru, and Farore, according to Hylian creation myth. It was said the actual creation of the Triforce occurred when the goddesses left the realm of Hyrule, at the exact point where they left, thus making the three triangles which form the Triforce fragments of the goddesses' power. Kept safe in the Temple of Light in a land parallel and reflective of the "normal" Hyrule, known as the Golden Land or Sacred Realm, the Triforce is the ultimate representation of all power, wisdom, courage and magic in Hyrule. The Triforce houses the essence of the gods, and it has been a subject of dispute whether or not the Triforce is an inanimate object that can't distinguish good from evil, or if it is a living entity, as depicted in the end of A Link to the Past.

Ganondorf Dragmire, a Gerudo thief and the sole male of their tribe at the time, heard of the legend of the Triforce and lusted after its power, primarily as a tool to subjugate the kingdom of Hyrule and expand his influence. Inadvertently aided by a young hero known as Link and the Hylian princess, Zelda, Ganondorf found his way into the Sacred Realm, but could only claim one fragment of the Triforce, the Triforce of Power, typically associated with the color Red and the goddess Din. The other two fragments split off and merged with Link, who received the Triforce of Courage, associated with green and Farore, and Zelda, who received the Triforce of Wisdom, associated with blue and Nayru. They were chosen by the Triforce itself because they represented these two segments of the Triforce above all others. Each of the three was marked with the mark of their Triforce on the back of one of their hands.

Eventually, Ganondorf was defeated and the power of the seven Hylian Sages (including Zelda herself) were used to seal him in the Sacred Realm. Regarding the three Triforce pieces, two were kept with Zelda and Link and the third Ganondorf kept. Link eventually left for a land known as Termina; but when he did, it is believed that his Triforce piece left him and split into eight fragments. In The Wind Waker, the newest incarnation of Link collects these eight Triforce shards. When Zelda died, her piece is also believed to have left her to be passed down through the generations of the Royal Family of Hyrule. Although Ganon struggled many times afterwards to rise to power once more, each time a new incarnation of Link and a new Princess Zelda are awakened to put him down and reseal or, eventually, destroy him.

In both A Link to the Past and The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker, it was revealed that one who touches the Triforce has all of their wishes come true; the Triforce reflects the heart of the one who touches it, whether good or evil. In A Link to the Past, Ganon exploited this power to corrupt The Golden Land, turning it into the Dark World, a realm of dark skies and evil creatures. In The Wind Waker, the king of Hyrule, Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule, wishes for Link and Zelda to have hope in defeating Ganondorf. The Triforce is also referred to as the "Golden Power" in The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past and could have something to do with the "Light Force" mentioned in The Legend of Zelda: The Minish Cap

Triforce is also the name of an arcade board developed as a joint-venture between Sega, Namco and Nintendo. The hardware is based on the Nintendo GameCube, but with more RAM (48MB instead of the Cube's 24). Sega ported its NAOMI Development Kit, originally developed for the Dreamcast game console, to the Triforce, making game development extremely simple. Among the games known to run on the Triforce hardware are F-Zero AX and Virtua Fighter 2002, both from Sega. In addition, a Mario Kart game for the Triforce, MarioKart Arcade GP, is currently being developed.

M Hoshi 89
but he can really survive in the space with help from the gods

General Zodiac
The gods didn't help him with ganon or majora.

M Hoshi 89
they didnt help because ganon has the triforce too, and they will only help if link really needs it

General Zodiac
No. They wouldn't. Or else they would have helped when Ganon flooded Hyrule.

M Hoshi 89
IT WAS THE gods who did that to hryule

General Zodiac
They really helped when Ganon turned the Sacred Realm into the Dark World.

M Hoshi 89
it was not necessarly for them to help,because they knew the hero of time would save

General Zodiac
So Link needs the gods? HA! Sonic doesn't need anyone but himself to defeat Perfect Chaos who Link would have never been able to defeat.

M Hoshi 89
of course he doesnt need them?Who do you think created the emeralds?It wasnt gods , but he received help in fact

General Zodiac
I said he doesn't need anyONE, not thing. And the Master Emerald created the 7 Chaos Emeralds.

kamikz
Link and Dark Link takes this. Link can just wait until Sonic comes close or until sonic tries to hit him or something, or just runs past him and then he can do Dins FIre. Everything around him freezes, so will sonic and shadow and they will be burnt alive. And if that wont kill them it will at least burn up their running shoes that is the source of their speed.

kamikz
Link and Dark Link takes this. Link can just wait until Sonic comes close or until sonic tries to hit him or something, or just runs past him and then he can do Dins FIre. Everything around him freezes, so will sonic and shadow and they will be burnt alive. And if that wont kill them it will at least burn up their running shoes that is the source of their speed.

kamikz
Link and Dark Link takes this. Link can just wait until Sonic comes close or until sonic tries to hit him or something, or just runs past him and then he can do Dins FIre. Everything around him freezes, so will sonic and shadow and they will be burnt alive. And if that wont kill them it will at least burn up their running shoes that is the source of their speed.

General Zodiac
Originally posted by kamikz
Link and Dark Link takes this. Link can just wait until Sonic comes close or until sonic tries to hit him or something, or just runs past him and then he can do Dins FIre. Everything around him freezes, so will sonic and shadow and they will be burnt alive. And if that wont kill them it will at least burn up their running shoes that is the source of their speed.
Sonic doesn't need his shoes to run. Sonic can attack from a far with Sonic Wind and Shadow will use Chaos Blast which is like Din's Fire but a lot stronger. And if the game was more accurate everything wouldn't freeze when Link does Din's Fire because all it does is do that fire thing not freeze time. And the Song of Time and OoT cannot teleport Link anywhere he chooses as shown in OoT and MM.

General Zodiac
Plus Shadow uses guns, swords, rockets, and every other weapon.

CorderaMitchell
Thats the new shadow. Whatever he's got on him usually (nothing), is what he gets. they're fast but aren't great fighters, like knuckles. They run and jump, there's no shields, chaos emeralds, or supersonic here.

General Zodiac
Sonic would use Blue Tornado and swip Link and/or Dark Link off their feet and Shadow would use Chaos Spear or a Homing Attack and beat the living h*!! out of them before they hit the ground.

General Zodiac
Sonic would use the Time Stones and travel back in time and kill Link as a little kid.

xxxpoppunker182
well which shadow link? from Oot or from Aol?

General Zodiac
OoT.

CorderaMitchell
Originally posted by General Zodiac
Sonic would use Blue Tornado and swip Link and/or Dark Link off their feet and Shadow would use Chaos Spear or a Homing Attack and beat the living h*!! out of them before they hit the ground.

Sonic isn't great of a fighter, all of his attacks rely on moving fast and velocity.

IF his premise is exploited in him moving fast, then he's done.

M Hoshi 89
if sonic can use the time power link can use the song of time and return to the time when sonic cant turn into super.Sonics tornado is weaker than link spin attack.Shadow chaos spear is a LOT weaker than a light arrow , any weapon from shadow can be easily outmatched with links magic

CorderaMitchell
Originally posted by General Zodiac
Sonic would use the Time Stones and travel back in time and kill Link as a little kid.

Can't do that.

General Zodiac
Originally posted by M Hoshi 89
if sonic can use the time power link can use the song of time and return to the time when sonic cant turn into super.Sonics tornado is weaker than link spin attack.Shadow chaos spear is a LOT weaker than a light arrow , any weapon from shadow can be easily outmatched with links magic

Let's see Sonic:
Destroyed the Death Egg three times
Destroyed the Egg Carrier
Defeated Chaos 0, 4, 6, and Perfect Chaos
Saves the world from Ark
Defeats the Final Hazard with Super Shadow
Defeats the Gizoid who copied everyone's moves and had all 7 Chaos Emeralds
Destroyed an entire fleet
Defeated Metal Sonic
Defeated Silver Sonic
Defeated Mecha Sonic
Defeated Metal Overlord
Saved the entire world over and over again
Trained with Knuckles in both his fighting games and learned martal arts

What has Link done: (Just OoT and MM)
Defeated Ganon
Stoped a Mask
Stoped the Moon from falling.

Dark Link:
Got beaten up by Link

Shadow:
Was feared by the military
Managed to equal Sonic everyway possible
Mastered the Chaos Emeralds
Mastered every weapon and fighting
Learned how to harness the full power of a Chaos Emerald
Defeated the BioHazard alone
His clone that has 1/100 of Shadow's power equaled Sonic
Mastered Super form way faster the Sonic but was too weak from fighting the BioHazard to make it back

Sonic relies on himself and Link has to use weapons. Sad.

CorderaMitchell
Originally posted by General Zodiac
Let's see Sonic:
Destroyed the Death Egg three times
Destroyed the Egg Carrier
Defeated Chaos 0, 4, 6, and Perfect Chaos
Saves the world from Ark
Defeats the Final Hazard with Super Shadow
Defeats the Gizoid who copied everyone's moves and had all 7 Chaos Emeralds
Destroyed an entire fleet
Defeated Metal Sonic
Defeated Silver Sonic
Defeated Mecha Sonic
Defeated Metal Overlord
Saved the entire world over and over again
Trained with Knuckles in both his fighting games and learned martal arts

What has Link done: (Just OoT and MM)
Defeated Ganon
Stoped a Mask
Stoped the Moon from falling.

Dark Link:
Got beaten up by Link

Shadow:
Was feared by the military
Managed to equal Sonic everyway possible
Mastered the Chaos Emeralds
Mastered every weapon and fighting
Learned how to harness the full power of a Chaos Emerald
Defeated the BioHazard alone
His clone that has 1/100 of Shadow's power equaled Sonic
Mastered Super form way faster the Sonic but was too weak from fighting the BioHazard to make it back

Sonic relies on himself and Link has to use weapons. Sad.

You are a fanboy, easily. I'm not saying sonic wins or loses. But sonic was a mutated hedgehog, and relies on power ups and emeralds, please give a better argument.

General Zodiac
Sonic relies on power ups...all that time fighting Eggman when all I did was jump on him or do a homing attack really needs power ups. And Link needs the Triforce, his masks, and weapons.

CorderaMitchell
You are talking about games.

I can beat Shin Akuma with dan, does that make dan stronger than Shin Akuma, no.

General Zodiac
Originally posted by General Zodiac
Sonic relies on power ups...all that time fighting Eggman when all I did was jump on him or do a homing attack really needs power ups. And Link needs the Triforce, his masks, and weapons.
Take all of Link's weapons away and we'll see how good he is.

CorderaMitchell
Links weapons are part of his character.

Take away sonic's speed, he can't fight.

General Zodiac
Shadow shares every ability of Sonic, meaning that they are truly rivals. The only reason Sonic is known as the fastest hedgehog is because the Blue Blur has broken the sound barrier before, something Shadow has yet to accomplish. His light trail is gold instead of blue. Why it isn't black, no one knows.
Not that fast huh?

punkrocker666
link will win i tell ya link !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

General Zodiac
Link wouldn't be able to touch Sonic.

CorderaMitchell
Originally posted by General Zodiac
Shadow shares every ability of Sonic, meaning that they are truly rivals. The only reason Sonic is known as the fastest hedgehog is because the Blue Blur has broken the sound barrier before, something Shadow has yet to accomplish. His light trail is gold instead of blue. Why it isn't black, no one knows.
Not that fast huh?

Did I say he was slow?

Reread my post, I said take away his speed, and he loses. Sonic isn't that great of a fighter.

punkrocker666
Originally posted by General Zodiac
Link wouldn't be able to touch Sonic. u wait and c link will kik sonics *** i know he will

General Zodiac
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Did I say he was slow?

Reread my post, I said take away his speed, and he loses. Sonic isn't that great of a fighter.
Sonic earned his speed and Link just found his weapons as he went along. Why not take away Goku's power when fighting Kratos or someone?

General Zodiac
Sonic travels faster then a jet. An arrow wouldn't be able to touch him. Sonic's lightspeed attack would be too fast for Link to counter. Shadow Link doesn't freeze time he freezes Link cause Navi is still movin. SL only froze Link because Link had a lock on him with Navi. Shadow can freeze time shown in Sonic Adventure 2: Battles and Sonic Heroes for 10 seconds. By that time Shadow would have defeated Shadow Link and/or Link. And Link wouldn't be able to play that OoT because he will be frozen. And Link cannot use the OoT in boss battles as seen in OoT and MM. Sonic is able to break through a sound barrier. Link needs weapons. Sonic uses his speed to win. Why can't Link use his strength or speed? Even Mario doesn't use weapons. Shadow's Chaos Blast is a techinque greater then any other expect for Chaos Control or transform because Shadow unleashed the full power of a Chaos Emerald and whips out all enemies around him. And a Chaos Spear also uses a Chaos Emerald's power and Shadow's inner power so a Light Arrow will only be destroyed along with the Chaos Spear and the Light Arrow can only hurt people that are evil. Shadow is not evil his mind was messed with by Professor Gerald but Amy reminded him about the past. Not to mention that Super Sonic's power is unequal expect to Super Shadow and Perfect Chaos because they too used the Chaos Emeralds. Super Sonic only used half of the Chaos Emeralds' true power in SA, SA1, and SH.
Sonic Adventure: Perfect Chaos took half of its power
Sonic Adventure 2: Shadow took half of its power
Sonic Heroes: Tails and Knuckles took half its power
Super Sonic is far greater in speed then normal Sonic who would be able to break the sound barrier in a flash. Sonic is a great fighter. He defeated Knuckles in a one on one battle in Sonic: The Fighter and Sonic Battle along with Rouge, Gizoid, and a bunch of other baddies. And the Master Sword can cut through anything. It didn't against an iron knuckle. You had to attack it from behind. And the Master Sword never kills Ganon. All the times Link killed Ganon he used a Sliver Arrow. And the Light and Silver Arrows only hurt those that are evil. Niether Sonic or Shadow or evil. And Link needed the Master Sword to defeat Ganondorf. Take away the Master Sword and Link would have never won the fights...expect Four Swords Adventures. Sonic defeats Eggman over and over again and only became Super Sonic to battle Eggman was when he went into Outer Space to run.

CorderaMitchell
Originally posted by General Zodiac
Sonic earned his speed and Link just found his weapons as he went along. Why not take away Goku's power when fighting Kratos or someone?

Sonic didn't "earn his speed'. WTF are you talking about, did he run the olympics, no. Robotnik MUTATED HIM.

You are trying to weaken link so he can lose, I'm just doing the same.

CorderaMitchell
Originally posted by General Zodiac
Sonic travels faster then a jet. An arrow wouldn't be able to touch him. Sonic's lightspeed attack would be too fast for Link to counter. Shadow Link doesn't freeze time he freezes Link cause Navi is still movin. SL only froze Link because Link had a lock on him with Navi. Shadow can freeze time shown in Sonic Adventure 2: Battles and Sonic Heroes for 10 seconds. By that time Shadow would have defeated Shadow Link and/or Link. And Link wouldn't be able to play that OoT because he will be frozen. And Link cannot use the OoT in boss battles as seen in OoT and MM. Sonic is able to break through a sound barrier. Link needs weapons. Sonic uses his speed to win. Why can't Link use his strength or speed? Even Mario doesn't use weapons. Shadow's Chaos Blast is a techinque greater then any other expect for Chaos Control or transform because Shadow unleashed the full power of a Chaos Emerald and whips out all enemies around him. And a Chaos Spear also uses a Chaos Emerald's power and Shadow's inner power so a Light Arrow will only be destroyed along with the Chaos Spear and the Light Arrow can only hurt people that are evil. Shadow is not evil his mind was messed with by Professor Gerald but Amy reminded him about the past. Not to mention that Super Sonic's power is unequal expect to Super Shadow and Perfect Chaos because they too used the Chaos Emeralds. Super Sonic only used half of the Chaos Emeralds' true power in SA, SA1, and SH.
Sonic Adventure: Perfect Chaos took half of its power
Sonic Adventure 2: Shadow took half of its power
Sonic Heroes: Tails and Knuckles took half its power
Super Sonic is far greater in speed then normal Sonic who would be able to break the sound barrier in a flash. Sonic is a great fighter. He defeated Knuckles in a one on one battle in Sonic: The Fighter and Sonic Battle along with Rouge, Gizoid, and a bunch of other baddies. And the Master Sword can cut through anything. It didn't against an iron knuckle. You had to attack it from behind. And the Master Sword never kills Ganon. All the times Link killed Ganon he used a Sliver Arrow. And the Light and Silver Arrows only hurt those that are evil. Niether Sonic or Shadow or evil. And Link needed the Master Sword to defeat Ganondorf. Take away the Master Sword and Link would have never won the fights...expect Four Swords Adventures. Sonic defeats Eggman over and over again and only became Super Sonic to battle Eggman was when he went into Outer Space to run.

Sonic doesn't move lightspeed, he doesn't move mach 1000, he broke the sound barrier, he moves the speed of sound.

He can't fight, if a bomb were to go off, or his speed was exploited, he loses.

punkrocker666
so link wins

General Zodiac
No because Sonic did lose his speed once in Sonic 3D blast or something and Sonic still defeated Eggman moving as slow as Link does. Sonic can fight.

M Hoshi 89
link can fight a lot more than any sonic

CorderaMitchell
Originally posted by General Zodiac
No because Sonic did lose his speed once in Sonic 3D blast or something and Sonic still defeated Eggman moving as slow as Link does. Sonic can fight.

Sonic can't fight, stop going by bosses, hero's always beat the bosses.

Sonic can move well, but he can't fight like link, he just moves fast.

When I mean fighting,I'm saying proificency.

General Zodiac
Link uses a shield and sword. Sonic had 2 fighting games Sonic the Fighter and Sonic Battle. Each game Sonic didn't rely on speed. He trained with Knuckles to be a fighter and even trained more with Gizoid who copied everyone's moves but was defeated by Sonic even when the Gizoid had all 7 Chaos Emeralds. Sonic does fight well. All those attacks like homing attack, lightspeed attack, spin dash, and sonic wind are fighting moves Sonic taught himself. Strength isn't the only part of fighting...so is speed and knowledge. Just cause Sonic isn't a pussy and doesn't use a sword doesn't mean he doesn't know how to fight.

CorderaMitchell
Originally posted by General Zodiac
Link uses a shield and sword. Sonic had 2 fighting games Sonic the Fighter and Sonic Battle. Each game Sonic didn't rely on speed. He trained with Knuckles to be a fighter and even trained more with Gizoid who copied everyone's moves but was defeated by Sonic even when the Gizoid had all 7 Chaos Emeralds. Sonic does fight well. All those attacks like homing attack, lightspeed attack, spin dash, and sonic wind are fighting moves Sonic taught himself. Strength isn't the only part of fighting...so is speed and knowledge. Just cause Sonic isn't a pussy and doesn't use a sword doesn't mean he doesn't know how to fight.

Trying to tell me about fighting?

I fight everyday and train everyday.

Fighting SKILLFULLY is about POWER, speed, and knowledge and tactics of vital zones.

If I can exert 60% of my power faster and for longer periods of time, than I am better off than someone who exerts 90% of their strength, for an instant and wears out.

Sonic gets hit once he loses, moving that fast on a hit makes him take more damage.

SOnic knows little about vital spots and relies on his speed to win, which is fine, but not invincible. He has to start htat speed out, he doesn't just get it right in the beginning like that.

Sonic is an inferior fighter, who was mutated to get his speed, stop trying to change that.

If thats the case then sonic dies quickly, with no rings.

General Zodiac
Link CANNOT defeat someone he CANNOT hit. Link is like a sitting dock against the speed of Sonic and Shadow. And show me proof that Sonic was created by Eggman...mutated. Sonic has been Eggman's rival since the beginning.

xxxpoppunker182
well you're using sonic with all of his power from all of his adventures and well how bout this make the odd equal either have sonic from 1 game like link and shadow from 1 game. or bring link up to they're level say link with all of his weapons power and abilitleis from Oot and MM cause right now its like saying Ragnos vs ROTJ luke.

General Zodiac
Link from OoT has been in 2 games. I never said he doesn't have all his weapons and items but masks are useless since this is adult link. As shown in OoT, Adult Link cannot wear masks. Sonic and Shadow should have all their power-ups since Link has all his weapons. So Hyper Sonic and Super Shadow are fighting Adult Link and Shadow Link. SL only has a shield and sword. And just cause Sonic has a different fighting techinque doesn't mean he doesn't know how to fight. Yoda jumps around and uses speed while fighting sort of like Sonic.

General Zodiac
Through this thread you have yet to explain why Link can beat Sonic.
Link will set a bomb. So Sonic will run into it?
Link will do his spin attack. So Sonic won't use a homing attack and attack from above?
Sonic is not a fighter. Considering everything he's been through who cares?
Link has the Master Sword. Sonic is just going to stand their and let Link slash at him?
Link will use Nayura's Love. Link also has limited magic powers.
Link can go back in time. According to both OoT and MM only certain spots in time.
Link will use Din's Fire and burn Sonic. Shadow will use Chaos Control and freeze time, save Sonic and beat down Link.
Link will hit Sonic with a light arrow. That only works on someone who is evil. And Sonic can outrun an arrow.
Link is the Hero of Time. And? Sonic's the fastest thing alive.
Dark Link can freeze time. No he freezes Link. He's Link's darkside.
Link will go into Oni-Link. Adult Link cannot wear masks like in OoT and Sonic will go Super Sonic who is invincible and take every attack thrown at him and more.
Sonic can't fight. Super Sonic will just use Chaos Control and teleport Link into outer space where he will die.
Sonic has more speed. More exp. Super and Hyper forms which are invincible. Shadow has Chaos Control, Chaos Spear, and Chaos Blast. Not to mention he's the Ulitmate Life Form. Sonic wouldn't be able to react quickly. So like 10 years of running at that speed Sonic has yet to master it? Sonic runs fast and thinks fast.

xxxpoppunker182
shadow doesnt have just a shield and sword he has everything link does execpt the megaton hammer and biggorons sword. and just caus ethe game doesnt allow you to use masks as an adult doesnt mean he shouldn't be able to use them thats like hey sayin hey i can't go play with dolls cause i'm a guy but really if i wanted to i could. so he should be allowed to use the masksfrom MM

General Zodiac
Deku Link= Complete waste
Zora Link= Best in the water
Goron Link= Rolls
Oni-Link= Adult Link but a bit stronger

Super Sonic= Invincible and maxed out
Hyper Sonic= Even greater then Super Sonic with an attack that whips out every enemy around him
Super Shadow= Same as Super Sonic

xxxpoppunker182
is you think oni link is just a bit stronger than adult link then you need to research the firce dietey mask cause thats an understaement by far.

General Zodiac
Oni-Lonk cannot use any weapons other then the sword. His attacks are mighty but Adult Link can outsmart him an attack with arrows and Oni-Link can only attack long ranged as long as he has magic. In close melee combat Oni-Link would win but if they have a large arena it would go to Adult Link.

CorderaMitchell
Originally posted by General Zodiac
Link CANNOT defeat someone he CANNOT hit. Link is like a sitting dock against the speed of Sonic and Shadow. And show me proof that Sonic was created by Eggman...mutated. Sonic has been Eggman's rival since the beginning.

I understand this, sonic was originated from Eggmans inventions.

Who says sonic is hitting link if sonic doesn't get his speed up.

Link has tools necessary for fast characters.


Sonic has been hit by easier shit before than what link does.

General Zodiac
When they Link every fight something that fast?

CorderaMitchell
Sonic moves sound speed correct?

Too get to that speed, takes several seconds, he doesn't start at his max, link , being an experienced warrior can take advantage of that.

Link is more powerful than I'd thought before, he can do all kinds of magic, if a force field comes, sonic is nullified.

General Zodiac
Sonic can get a forcefield like in Sonic 2, Sonic 3, SA, SA2, and SH. Plus invinciblity boxes.

General Zodiac
And again all you are saying is Link will win. Link may be an adult in OoT but he has the mind of a 10 year old. Sonic is 15-16 and has been through so much more then Link has ever done.

General Zodiac
The player knows very little about Sonic's past; he was supposedly born on Christmas Island and that he has frequently visited South Island, and that he and Dr. Ivo "Eggman" Robotnik have a fierce rivalry. Beyond that, though, his past is a mystery. Sonic is something of a nomad; he travels from area to area of the Earth searching for new things to see and do, rarely stopping for anything or anyone unless he's needed, often times getting himself involved in stopping Eggman's schemes to take over the world.

Now where did you hear that Eggman mutates Sonic?

CorderaMitchell
Originally posted by General Zodiac
And again all you are saying is Link will win. Link may be an adult in OoT but he has the mind of a 10 year old. Sonic is 15-16 and has been through so much more then Link has ever done.

I haven't said anyone would win have you been paying attention?

You've been just saying he's faster, Linkexploits it.

Link is an adult, and sonic is a teen.

Matters not, how is he countering magic.

Sonic doesn't get powerups, this is a hypothetical fight, it doesn't anywhere explicitly say powerups man.

General Zodiac
Link is 17...that's a teen. I don't know why he is called Adult Link. Sonic does get power-ups like his lightspeed shoes and flame bracelet. Sonic can counter that Din's Fire. And you said niether would win but who would win?

xxxpoppunker182
Originally posted by General Zodiac
Oni-Lonk cannot use any weapons other then the sword. His attacks are mighty but Adult Link can outsmart him an attack with arrows and Oni-Link can only attack long ranged as long as he has magic. In close melee combat Oni-Link would win but if they have a large arena it would go to Adult Link.

you do know there is more to oni-link then what you can do in the game right?

General Zodiac
When fighting Majora or any other boss he cannot use bow, hookshoot, masks, OoT, or any other weapon but his sword. And no one knows where the Fierce Diety Mask came from! Someone said it was Shadow Link trying to return, someone said it was made by Ganondorf but all that is know is the mask is evil.

General Zodiac
Link=
Best skill is the Sword
Good with Bow and Arrows, Hookshot, Megaton Hammer, and Bombs
Speed= Adverage
Strength= A little above Adverage (With the gaunlets its high)
Wisdom= Not very high (He has only been fighting for a year and that's including MM. He's 10 no matter if it's his Adult Form because his mind was sealed away

Sonic=
Best skill is Lightspeed Attack
Good with Sonic Wind, Homing Attack, Spin Dash, Blue Tornado, and Bounce Attack
Speed: Max
Strength= Adevarge (Super Sonic maxed)
Wisdom= A lot more then Link's.

xxxpoppunker182
Originally posted by General Zodiac
When fighting Majora or any other boss he cannot use bow, hookshoot, masks, OoT, or any other weapon but his sword. And no one knows where the Fierce Diety Mask came from! Someone said it was Shadow Link trying to return, someone said it was made by Ganondorf but all that is know is the mask is evil.

the firce dietey mask wa mask made by the same people that made the trident of power................ancient gerudo only it was made while the sandgoddess was living(she is the person on the front of the spirit temple Oot) it like majora mask was evil but had some of the godess's power.

General Zodiac
They have never said the FDM was made by the gerudo. In fact the origins of the trident are a mystery. The gerudo seemed to have knowledge of it and had it sealed away in a Pyramid, but Sonic is the Chosen One. Don't believe I'll prove it.

M Hoshi 89
go to zelda dattebayo and download the manga

General Zodiac
According to the manga, which is a different story than that of the game itself, the mask itself was an ancient and dangerous artifact made from the armor of a legendary and evil beast that was danced to exhaustion by a being disguised as a human traveler. According to a legend devised "by the humans themselves," any who obtain the beast's armour gains hold of a giant and terrible power. All who approached it, warriors, men and women alike, even with good intentions, were devoured without remorse. The early Terminian tribes used the mask in their cursed hexing rituals, but when the evils caused by the mask became too much to bear, they sealed it away in darkness forever... so they hoped.

Hoshi
right , and you now what is a oni.Oni is the stronget type of demon in all the universe,and oni link in the manga looked invencible since he destroyed the majoras mask at it full power like it was a worm

General Zodiac
You base your info on the manga. Star Wars Clone Wars micro series had the Jedi overpowerful and they didn't need a clone army but in the movie/game they are no where near that power. And that's info on Majora's Mask. I put that their to show that the magna is totally different then the game.

General Zodiac
(Please note the manga, though licensed by Nintendo, are not considered official sources of information and are not canonical; any time there is a conflict between the manga and the game, the game is considered to be the more official source.)

Hoshi
well anyone in the game defeat the majoras mask in his ultimate form if you are with the oni link,only a total loser in the games cant defeat the majoras mask easily , just like link did in the manga

General Zodiac
Super Sonic would defeat Majora's Mask just a easy because unlike Oni-Link, Super Sonic is INVINCIBLE.

punkrocker666
link will still win

General Zodiac
Is that all you have to say? That's something you say when you know you are beaten.

Hoshi
super sonic is invencible because he is in hisuniverse,i said that many time,if sonic is powered by the emeralds link just have to be stronger than the emeralds

General Zodiac
Link just has to be stronger then the emeralds. The 7 Chaos Emeralds are the servers of the Master Emerald the only thing that can take the power away from the 7 Chaos Emeralds. Only Knuckles is the only one of Sonic's time who can use the Master Emerald's power. Again all you are saying is Link would win and you give no reasons why. You just said Majora would have been beaten by Oni-Link easily and yet you said it isn't fair to compare a hero to a boss fight because the hero will win. Link has a limited supply of magic. Sonic has no limit to how long he can run. And Sonic (Like Link) is the Chosen One.
Sonic and Knuckles: Hidden Palace Zone- Stone Tablet of Super Sonic fighting Eggman's robot in Doomsday Zone.
Sonic Adventure- Another stone Tablet showing Super Sonic fighting Perfect Chaos.
Super Sonic had to neutralize Perfect Chaos to win...take away his power. Super Sonic did that again against Metal Overlord.

Hoshi
do you really think that the master emerald is that powerfull?because i think just a piece of the triforce is stronger than it.

Hoshi
and super soni loses rings when he gets hit,doesnt he

General Zodiac
No. Play SA, SA2, and SH. Never once he loses his rings when he gets hit. Eggman developed a robot in Sonic Advance 1 and 2 that sucks out the rings but Link would never be able to do that. Power, Wisdom, and Courage makes up the Triforce. Link recieved Courage because he was brave, Zelda Wisdom becauses she was wise beyond her years, and Ganondorf Power becauses that was the piece he believed in most. The Master Emerald has the power to neutralize other forms of energy. And again you fail to see that this is Sonic and Shadow vs. Link and Link's Shadow not why the Triforce is who cares. The Triforce doesn't make anyone invincible or Link would have never defeated Ganon in A Link to the Past.

General Zodiac
Triforce:
Power

In both A Link to the Past and The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker, it was revealed that one who touches the Triforce has all of their wishes come true; the Triforce reflects the heart of the one who touches it, whether good or evil. In A Link to the Past, Ganon exploited this power to corrupt The Golden Land, turning it into the Dark World, a realm of dark skies and evil creatures. In The Wind Waker, the king of Hyrule, Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule, touches the Triforce and wishes for Link and Zelda to have hope in defeating Ganondorf.

The Triforce is referred to as the "Golden Power" in The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past and could have something to do with the "Light Force" mentioned in The Legend of Zelda: The Minish Cap.

Hoshi
we cant say if sonic will really get invencible when he is super against link,because they are from too different places.Your opnion is that he will become invencible and destroy link and shadow link,my opnion is that the links will be able to cut them with their superior magic and destroy them with their swords.Our opnions are different but i respect yours,i just think that is not correct.

Hoshi
and if you play link the four swords you will see that link becomes invencible.

General Zodiac
Super Sonic stopped Ark from falling, breathes in space, the only thing that can kill SS is if he drowns, or gets crushed.

When all 7 Chaos Emeralds are gathered they create a miracle. The 'miracle' is most of the time the power to defeat an opponent. With the power of the 7 Chaos Emeralds Sonic the Hedgehog gains more power then even the Death Egg with the Final Egg Blaster. Emerl, the Gizoid, acquired all 7 Chaos Emeralds but was defeated by Sonic in Sonic Battle because of the fact Emerl was a robot who could not harness the power of the 7 Chaos Emeralds. In fact very few people can harness their power and control it. The first person to harness the power of the 7 Chaos Emeralds was Chaos but he could not control it and destroyed the Ancient Echindas. Sonic has been the second know thing to harness the power of the 7 Chaos Emeralds and be able to control it. Sonic has the power to use a fake Chaos Emerald and use Chaos Control when Shadow the Hedgehog, who first shown Sonic Chaos Control, couldn't due. This brings up talk that Shadow is not the Ultimate Life Form but Sonic but his past is unknown. Knuckles and Tails could never fully use the Chaos Emeralds' power and only used half. Tails only went 'Super' when he had all 7 Super Emeralds but he still didn't use all it's power. Shadow was the third thing recorded to use all 7 Chaos Emeralds to the max and control it. Reasons to believe is that Shadow has a perfect mind so many say Sonic's mind is as fast as he is because Shadow may have used his powers to the max (that is why he died, still unknown if he did) was because he only harnessed half of the Chaos Emeraldss power and Sonic had the other half. Tails and Knuckles came close to becoming 'Super' in Sonic Heroes against Metal Overlord but they had to spilt 50% of the Chaos Emeraldss power with each other and Sonic received more then both of them. Sonic has been the only known Sonic character to use the Chaos's Emeralds at 100% and be able to control his actions. Sonic also has reasons to believe that he is the Chosen One from the legends of the Echindas. They believed that a great evil (most say Perfect Chaos) will return and will never be stopped until the Chosen One (Super Sonic) rises up and defeats the great evil. When Sonic uses the full power of the Chaos Emeralds his power is legendary. He could have easily destroyed the Death Egg as Super Sonic and with his speed he could travel around the world in less then a few hours. Many believe that Super Sonic isn't as fast as he should be in most Sonic games but if Sonic did travel as fast as he can in the games it would be nearly impossible to control Sonic.

Hoshi
link is the chosen one too,and if there is someone that can crush hyper sonic,that one is link.They say that the triforce of courage power is not make link strong or make link receive special powers.But the triforce of courage has the ability to make link protect the ones he loves if he believes in himself and fight with courage.They say that link is only still alive,and that the world is not destroyed because of the triforce that link has that always help him

General Zodiac
When did this turn into a battle to protect the ones they love?

Hoshi
if you think right ,sonic and shadow would never team up to defeat link and dark link.They would never batle another if there wasnt anything really serious going on.

General Zodiac
No. Sonic and Shadow respect each other. They are truely rivals but would help one another. And Shadow Link would turn on Link since his purpose in life is to kill Link.

General Zodiac
So it's Sonic, Shadow, and Link's Shadow vs. Link.

Hoshi
that looks a bit unfair to me , the match was supposed to be 2vs2 and not 3vs1.And i dont think sonic would attack link ,the hero of time,since sonic isnt a bad person

General Zodiac
So Shadow Link betrays Link (Since SL's purpose in life is to kill Link) while Link is fighting Sonic and Shadow. Link is killed by Shadow Link, Shadow, and Sonic and since Shadow Link only has his sword Sonic and Shadow would defeat Shadow Link and the winners are Sonic the Hedgehog and Shadow the Ultimate Life Form.

General Zodiac
Originally posted by Hoshi
that looks a bit unfair to me , the match was supposed to be 2vs2 and not 3vs1.And i dont think sonic would attack link ,the hero of time,since sonic isnt a bad person
So they would all defeat Shadow Link then go to the milk bar in MM and get drunk off milk like that one guy and decide to forget the match and just enjoy the night?

General Zodiac
Ok after much dicussion over the subject we finall have are winners.



And the winners are:



























































Sonic the Hedgehog
Shadow the Ultimate Life Form &
Link the Hero of Time

Hoshi
i just dont think sonic would fight 3 on one on link.

Hoshi
i cant say you are wrong , but i think shadow would just go away since he doesnt like stupid fights, so i think shadow would let soni and link crush shadow link while he goes to other place.

General Zodiac
But as soon as Shadow Link tries to betray Link, Sonic saves Link and Shadow shows him the true meaning of Chaos Control. And the 3 team up and Shadow Link realizes he is screwed.

General Zodiac
Originally posted by Hoshi
i cant say you are wrong , but i think shadow would just go away since he doesnt like stupid fights, so i think shadow would let soni and link crush shadow link while he goes to other place.
True. Shadow isn't the one to waste time.

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