Predators vs Elites

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GGgrievous725
to advanced alien species who would win in a war

dave123
I'm gonna go with predator... simply because they're more about one of them doing a job, whereas one elite would do nothing.

General Zodiac
Elites. They have forefield, camo, and many vehicles.

SaTsuJiN
Predator... they have many types of optical scanning ranging from heat to night vision.. they have no problem climbing structures of any kind.. and have a real love for skulls with spines attatched... happy

General Zodiac
The Arbiter shows to be the strongest Elite. Is it the Arbiter who is fighting or a normal Eilte?

GGgrievous725
just basically a whole war between them

Darkstorm Zero
I'm going to side with the Preadtors on this one, individually each Predator is a highly skilled hunter and warrior, imagine an army of these things suddenly decloaking right in a Covenant camp?

Oh and while the Elites have stealth technology, the preadators have cloaking capability as well, and they have the visual scanners to break through such cloaking devices.

CorderaMitchell
Predator, are more informed and prepped for the missions at hand.

General Zodiac
Since this is Elites vs Predators in a war I'm going for Elites. Predators were killed off by the Aliens expect one. Elites were able to stop their downfall against the Brutes and I think that will be the Covanent's downfall in Halo 3. Plus Elites have shields and a single Elite can kill a squad of marines when Arnold killed a bunch of Predators and the Master Chief had to help the Marines.

Darkstorm Zero
Arrnold killed ONE Predator, Plus he's a trained marine...

And we're forgetting the Predators trump card, Nuclear detonator! BOOYA!!!

General Zodiac
Master Chief is a perfect soldier. Created for the soul purpose of defeating the Covenant.

Darkstorm Zero
I know that, but we're discussing the merit of Elites vs the Covenant, I only said what I said about Arnold because you bought him up and incorrectly nominated him as the killer of Multiple Predators...

General Zodiac
Ok so it's the Covenant so they have Hunters, Jackals, Brutes, and Grunts not just Elites.

Darkstorm Zero
Sorry my bad, I meant to say Elites vs Predators... embarrasment

CorderaMitchell
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Arrnold killed ONE Predator, Plus he's a trained marine...

And we're forgetting the Predators trump card, Nuclear detonator! BOOYA!!!

Arnold wouldn't do jack shit to an alien in hand2hand. wink

GGgrievous725
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Arrnold killed ONE Predator, Plus he's a trained marine...

And we're forgetting the Predators trump card, Nuclear detonator! BOOYA!!!

even if the predators used there detonator they would blow themselves up to unless it was the crappy one they used to fight arnold that one wasnt all that big compared to AVP detonator that one would blow half of both there armies outta the picture

darth-yoda
ill go with the pedators each one is a highly trainded worriors we have never seen a special predator fight just normal ones and i think thy would destroy the arbitor in minutes the elites have no chance

DaRk Lotus
The Predators have much higher tecongly

Shadow_Star
Aliens killed the Predators in Alien vs. Predator. And then a last predator teamed up with a human and killed off the Aliens. Elites win.

General Zodiac
Elites have shields that recharged and a range of alien technology.

Hit_and_Miss
GGgrievous725 what sort of area we talking about here???

A predator is a lone hunting alien, granted they do team up for big targets but most of there time they are on there own. Against a single elite then the predator would hunt him down.

However this is a war with an army on both sides, so elites won't go on there own, and usually will have a tank backing them up. a single shot from an elite would melt a predator. They have no armor that could stand up to plasma, bullets kill them. predator blades would kill an elite but the shields would prevent a shot from the predator cannon, and would force him to de-cloak and get shot.

Predators just aren't meant for wars. Just hunting small amounts of prey.

General Zodiac
YEAH! Plus they have all those cool ghosts and banshees!!

Darth_Frobo
Elites should pull it off, if a marine can kill a predator and an elite can easily butcher a squad of marines well...Also Elites are adept at all forms of combat including sniping and lets not forget their superior starship technology and swords. Elites also have motion trackers which negate the predators camo. Elites (especially special forces elites) are adept with all weapons and vechiles, imagine 200 hundred spectre's, plasma grenades, sniper rifles the elites are more then well equiped to deal with predators, unless it became jungle warfare but the elites would just glass the forest.

Dizzle
1st, Elites don't get tanks.

2nd, if it's army vs. Army, I'd assume each gets the same number. Predators lose to Aliens because they are vastly outnumbered. They should beat the Elites. Hit and run tactics work quite well against almost any army. And Predator's are equipped fine to kill some Elites. The better Predators should take out the Arbiter no problem.

DaRk Lotus
Originally posted by Dizzle
1st, Elites don't get tanks.

2nd, if it's army vs. Army, I'd assume each gets the same number. Predators lose to Aliens because they are vastly outnumbered. They should beat the Elites. Hit and run tactics work quite well against almost any army. And Predator's are equipped fine to kill some Elites. The better Predators should take out the Arbiter no problem.


Did you all forget about the wrist bomb? You all can't possably go for the dum Elites? The Predators will make the Elites threr bitches.
As for the AVP movie the reason that the preadtors were yongleans
teenagers carless in the battle. The Alians are the best hunting animal for the yong ones. To join there clan. Like my fav go Yeyinde The king Preadtor he killer 3 Queens in his life cycle most don't even see a Queen in there life cycle. there for the Predators would win.

Darkstorm Zero
Predators have Shields too, in certain games (AVP Extinction for PS2) they get the Killscreen generator that tops incoming enemy projectiles. Plus they too can recharge their energy.



Ok, your talking about the combined technology of the entire Covenant here, not just Elites... As far as I know, the Vehicles are made for the whole Covenant, and thats not really fair... The weapons Elites usually carry are Plasma Rifles, Needlers, and Plasma Swords, Occasionally they carry the Plasma Carbine. Now, limited to that I'd say the Technology that is bought to the battlefield is in the Predators favour.



That same predator butchered 6 marines before going down to the last one in the unit (And because it's Arnie, you know the pred was going down stick out tongue )

Predators also get vision modes like Predteh mode, this allows them to see cloaked enemies clear as day. Predtech mode > Motion Tracker

Predators have far superior close combat weaponry, the best being the Double Plasma Voluge and the Plasma Scythe. Plasma Voluge and Plasma Scythe both > Plasma Sword.

The Military Hydra (A heavily armed predator) Fires swarms of white hot plasma missiles that track targets and deliver enough firepower to decimate a Dropship. Hydra > tanks (If applicable), Decimates everything else

Oh yeah, Predators also have snipers called Hunters, these guys are very experienced Snipers that rarely miss, so the Elites advantage of Sniping just coped a headshot in their camping heads stick out tongue

This combined with the other multitudes of Weapons Predators usually carry (Disks, Netguns, Wristblades, Plasmacasters, Medicomp, Ect) I think that the elites would get totaled... It would probably only take a team to detonate High Charity!

darth-yoda
each predator i highly trained a elite is trained but not as well as predator preds live for the fight and only for the fight they bred aliens just to fight them preds take this one from far and up close long live the preds

darth-yoda
pred vaungauds wil kill alot of the elites

DaRk Lotus
Go preds smile

Steve128967
Predator. I mean sure elites got those shiny- OH MY GOD SHINY -sword things, look at every frickin' thing Predators got. And do you see Elites frying a whole army of Aliens by themselves. I don't think so.

Steve128967
Did you see all the Predators in the end of AVP? I mena elites got all that whatever (I never played Halo 2) but Predators, come on! And in the first move ONE! Just ONE! Took out six green berets, six or seven ELITE commandos and who knows what else. In Predator 2, one killed a shit load of gangs who all had guns and that dude with knives. In AVP they took out every alien in sight with only three. And I believe the Elites need to actually lock on to something to forever track it. But has anyone ever played Concrete Jungle? One Predator killed about four of its own (all of them were insanely modified AND criminals), an infinite army of Aliens, a mother brain, two mafias, a mafia boss with an axe and a shield, about three street gangs, a whole bunch of pimps with laser guns, five ronin samurai body guards, about eight or more special ops guys, a HELL of a lot of security guards and scientists... I could go on forever. My point is, the Predators gave the entire human race (and a couple others) a thorough soaking in blood and acid. I rest my case.

Arbiter
The Elites are able to hold back the flood. Grunts run like cowards but if 1 Elite leads them into battle the Grunts charge without fear. An Elite can kill a group of marines by himself and they travel in groups unlike the Predators. Elites don't have to lock on they grab a Plasma Rifle and they run in shooting and they hardly miss in open terrian. Elites also have ghosts and banshees and the Covenant has never lost a war yet. Expect for maybe against the Earth forces but Halo 3 isn't out yet so who know.

Dizzle
Elites are not the whole covenant. The thread is Elites vs. Predators. Not the Covenant vs. Predators. I forget the names of some of the better predators, but they are exponentially more skilled than the normal ones. Which is saying something. Predators win in terms of weaponry, stealth, and skill. Which is pretty much all of the big factors here...

GGgrievous725
weaponry yeah right elites weaponry systems are far beyond predators a net a spear a really sharp boomerang and there best weaponthere lasers now elites weapons plasma rifle fuel rod cannon pistols and tons more advanced weaponry stealth predators can do camo but so can elites so it doesnt really matter skill at what hunting not gonna help ya much in the middle of a war the machinery is much better for elites than predators scarabs can knock out many many predators with a single blast therefore predators stand no chance in war

the-unforgiven
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Is this a footman war or will the elites use veichels. if they do, they would slaughter the predators. I think the elites would win anyway. In large numbers they are good. I dont know much about the predators, but as faar as i know, in combat all predators are the same rank. Elites have leaders, specialised in different things. Some are trained for combat, and they are realy ****ing good at that, while some elites are trained for thinking or tactics. And if the arbiter was with them, they would work even better yes

Arbiter
Originally posted by Dizzle
Elites are not the whole covenant. The thread is Elites vs. Predators. Not the Covenant vs. Predators. I forget the names of some of the better predators, but they are exponentially more skilled than the normal ones. Which is saying something. Predators win in terms of weaponry, stealth, and skill. Which is pretty much all of the big factors here...
What do you think makes up the backbone of the Covenant Army. Without the Elites the Grunts and Jackals couldn't win 1 battle.

GGgrievous725
so true

Dizzle
Predators have ranks and specific jobs as well... There's the lowly normal predators, the Elder Predators, which have been around for thousands of years and seen literally millions of battles, btw, theres snipers, and military hydras and whatnot.

As for the technology... Did anyone read Darkstorm Zero's post? Every predator has plenty of plasma weapons and such. The spears are basically indestructible. Plasma guns for everyone. Predators are NOT only from the movies. They are mostly from comics. Either Topknot or Broken Tusk would MURDER 20 of the Arbiter...

Predators can live for thousands of years, and fight constantly for all of it. They typically weigh around 300 pounds... Of pure muscle. They have almost no fat due to their diet and constant battling. The elites are screwed.

Dizzle
http://www.geocities.com/gunsandgod/intro.html

Predator Weaponry are as follows:
Wrist Blades
Scatter Gun
Naginata
Dart Guns
Net Launchers
Forearm Plasma Cannon/Laser
Combi-Stick
Smart Disk
Shoulder Plasma Caster
Dual Mounted Heavy Laser Cannon
Shoulder Mounted Micro Missile Launcher
Anti-Vehicle Plasma Bolt Cannon
Burner (napalm)
Chemical Sprayer
Other specialized weapons (plasma scythe and voulge were mentioned)

Each Predator wouldn't carry all of these... But each would have wrist blades, a forearm gun, a shoulder mounted gun, and some other melee stuff.

Arbiter
Elites have ranks as well.
Blue (rookie)
Red/Orange (veteran)
Gold (command)
Black (spec. ops.)
White "Ultra" (spec. ops. command)
Blue Jetpacker (aerial assault/ranger)
Honor Guard (Prophet guardians)
White/Silver, Gold "Praetor" (ceremonial)

darth-yoda
you fogot the arbiter and its your name lol preds will take this if there is as many pred as they are elites 1 pred vs 1 elite the pred wins so its just that on a huge scale

RagnaViper
Elites, with their amazing amount of stupid, f***ing die at the hands of the vastly superior dreadlocked aliens.

Arbiter
Originally posted by darth-yoda
you fogot the arbiter and its your name lol preds will take this if there is as many pred as they are elites 1 pred vs 1 elite the pred wins so its just that on a huge scale
Watch the beginning of Halo 2. The Arbiter wore Gold Armor before he became the Arbiter so he must be as strong as they are in the beginning of Halo 2.

SnakeEyes
Preds would win... They are better and cooler cool

Arbiter
Elites are soooooooooo much cooler then Preds. Elites started a Civil War in the Covenant when the Brutes started taking over and Brutes are physically stronger and faster but the Elites are winning. Elites have also been trained to do nothing but fight in wars and they never lost a War. The Covenant is made up basically of Elites, Grunts, and Jackals. Elites are the 1 reason why the Covenant has never lost a war. Hunters, Drones, and Brutes are also in the Covenant but Brutes were never used in the war, Drones were just added to the army, and Hunters are few in numbers. Elites have been trained to battle in any terrian. What have the Preds done? Oh yeah, get their @$$ kicked by the Aliens!!

Dizzle
I believe "coolness" is quite the matter of opinion. Unless you are speaking of refreshing beverages.

Anyways, Preds win because each individual one would be both better equipped and more skilled than their Elite counterparts.

Also, Aliens win by superior numbers. A good individual predator can take several aliens at once. Predators consider humans fairly easy prey.
The Covenant, on the other hand, are on quite the downward slope now that they've run across humanity.

Arbiter
No. They were winning every battle against the humans. Their downward slope was when the Elites started to fight the Brutes. And the Elites outnumber the Preds here too.

Dizzle
Since when? Is that really fair? There's a damn lot of Predators, they just never concentrate in one place. If it's a war, both sides get the same number... If they were known to win by swarming, I'd concede, but that's not what Elites do. And the downfall was neither the brutes nor the humans in general, it was one special fella named John... Master Chief aka John...

Arbiter
Master Chief just helped with the destruction of Halo. 1 man cannot change the tide of the war. And if it is a war why does both sides have to be equal in numbers. Just cause elites outnumber the Preds 1/50.

cking
the elites would win because they have better technology and have shield, while the predator has no shields and can die from small arms fire. The covenant has other weapons that have never been used since they have no need for it because they are winning the war against the humans.

Dizzle
Firstly: Elites outnumbering Predators is unfair. Who cares if 100 Elites can kill 1 predator? It's equal numbers.

2: Technology has been gone over. Predators can take plenty of hits. And their firepower is just as good as the Elites. AND each one is much more skilled than any Elite.

Arbiter
It is not equal numbers. War is not always fair. The leaders don't meet and decide how many soldiers they will use. Elites win with greater numbers and superior skills.

GGgrievous725
Originally posted by Dizzle
Firstly: Elites outnumbering Predators is unfair. Who cares if 100 Elites can kill 1 predator? It's equal numbers.

2: Technology has been gone over. Predators can take plenty of hits. And their firepower is just as good as the Elites. AND each one is much more skilled than any Elite.

if there so more skilled why is it that 1 elite can take down tons of marines non cloked with one weapon and not hiding but Preds have to hide in trees cloked scarring non advanced humans and 2 preds lost to one alien with there fancy gadgets and all and if an alien can break outta one of the preds nets an elite should have no problem with it and anyways have predators ever gone up against something as deadly as an elite they have been attacking unsuspecting humans elites will crush them besides even in comics predators were weak

Dizzle
Since when the hell are there more Elites than predators? If anything, the full bulk of the Predator forces would be BIGGER than just the Elites. They live for around 1000 years and each one has about 70 kids. This goes on for literally millions of years.

And hell no the Elites' skills aren't superior. Unless you can give me some Elite feats to beat killing 6 Green Berets, a couple marines, and some other military people single handedly. Oh, that was a fairly inexperienced Predator, btw. Arbiter doesn't count. He's the high end Elite example.

Aw man, missed that last post... See my Green Beret killing feats. Also, the inexperienced Predator in the MOVIE killed 6 marines by himself. When he fought Arnold, he decided to toy with him by taking off all of his armor and not using weapons. He still tossed him around like so much dead weight. Arnold won by PIS, basically. Arnold set a trap, the Predator got cocky and walked into it.

Comic Predators are deadly stuff... Broken Tusk and Topknot take 20 elites by themselves.

Aliens are the first test for Youtja (Preds) to actually be considered "adults". One fairly experienced one can take an alien or 2 with no problems. Aliens being considered MUCH more difficult prey than humans.

GGgrievous725
did it say in the movie that the pred was inexperienced dont think so, so how could you possibly know that and besides the pred didnt want to toy with arnold he was pissed off and wanted to kill him with his bare hands and once again elites can crush humans no problem experienced marines and predators can only see heat elites figure out that preds are toast if elites arent already cold blooded

Dizzle
That predator had already killed 6 marines at the same time. You don't think it could have killed Arnold very very quickly if it had wanted to? Humans are not considered all that threatening to Predators, see the website I posted. That one was inexperienced because it toyed with an opponent that it thought was easily beaten and died because of it. Experienced Predators kill unmercifully. Once again, see the website.

Also, Predators see infrared. Cold blooded doesn't actually mean COLD blood. Plus the helmets allow Predators to see more than just infrared. PLUS they ave cloaking of their own.

Darkstorm Zero
I still say predators would win. And they do have Shields called trhe "Killscreen" which bloxcks projectiles.

And the numbers are EVEN, in a debate, you can't give one side such an unsolicited advantage as numbers, if that is your best argument, then you going to see many MANY Predator nukes going off and wiping out that advantage very quickly.

If you watch the making of AVP then you'd know that those Predators where on their adulthood trials, so yes it's safe to say that they where relatively inexperienced.

As for the Alien breaking through that Net, Do you know how he managed to do that?... i'll tell you, it wasn't through overpowering it or cutting it, it's because the Aliens have ACID FOR BLOOD, literally relying on it's internal fluids to free itself from the Predator's trap, something NO Elite can do

Heheh, The Arbiter is a PLAYER CHARACTER, feats you yourself can perform ingame do not count, or if you must, I can simply say I killed 3420 Aliens and 5024 Marines on my run throughs of AVP on the PC, same difference. Player feats don't count.

I can honestl;y say it would only take a selected team of Predators to take out High Charity, especially if one of those Predators is an Ancient

GGgrievous725
My gosh we get it Preds on AVP are going through adult trials everyone knows it and yet this i like the fifth freakin post people have put up about it so stop and the alien the top of his head bled a little bit to put some marks on it he broke out using his strength and has anyone compared there gaming skills on halo2 to how good a fighter the Arbiter is

Wickerman
Originally posted by GGgrievous725
My gosh we get it Preds on AVP are going through adult trials everyone knows it and yet this i like the fifth freakin post people have put up about it so stop and the alien the top of his head bled a little bit to put some marks on it he broke out using his strength and has anyone compared there gaming skills on halo2 to how good a fighter the Arbiter is

Did you REALLY watch AVP or are you just you know....saying stuff friends told you? Cause that's what it sounds like erm

Now...give me your address, i'll send you some money via Western Union. You can go watch the movie again and get your facts straight thumb up

~wickerman~

GGgrievous725
wow your hilarious and yes i own AVP and both the alien and predator collection

Wickerman
Originally posted by GGgrievous725
wow your hilarious and yes i own AVP and both the alien and predator collection

CLICK ME

Choose one of those, click it, read it, learn it, use it, watch the DVD thumb up

~wickerman~

War_Lord
Arbiter went through Heretic Elites, Grunts, and Jackals went through the Flood and went through Brutes and Jackals with little to no help.

GGgrievous725
Originally posted by Wickerman
CLICK ME

Choose one of those, click it, read it, learn it, use it, watch the DVD thumb up

~wickerman~
shut up this isnt even about AVP idiot this is about predators video games

RagnaViper
As I said before, Elites are completely retarded. Predators will win as soon as one of the Elites finds a door that says "Push" on it. Or a light grenade that has "Pick me up" written on it.

Either way, Elites are too stupid to win.

cking
actually they are smarter than humans and also they have another alien species called engineers in the last book halo first strike. these engineers repaired john's suit once it was destroyed and the human engineers couldn't fix it themselves. if the elites were stupid they were never win against the marines. they and the prophets are what makes the covenant as strong as they are. predators don't have the same strenght and mostly elites do have other weapons that aren't guns, plus these alien enginneers repair and give new ideas about a certain weapon that would be made. Throught history before the humans existed, when the covenant only consisted of the elites and prophets. the rest of the covenant were never originally part of it and were conquered by the elites. They have defeated everyone species of the covenant on the ground except for the hunters, which have defeated them in space. they have been known be excellent fighter pilots.

RagnaViper
No, they're dumb. Get used to it.

CorderaMitchell
What the hell, this is still going on?

Hooverman
this is very hard to tell to close for me 2 call

cking
elites are very smart, that isn't their real name, it is just a name by the humans. you have to know the history of the covenant before you can start calling them dumb.

Hit_and_Miss
Lets remember Predators kill Humans in the 21st century, Elites kill humans in the future... Big difference. The future humans are alot more advanced and I would Say give Predators a run for there money. Elite shields would take alot of the predator blows. Remember there light-years ahead in technology thanks to the forerunners. No-one has even mentioned The elites favoured way of winning wars... Glassing planets... lets see the Predators live though that.

Dizzle
Standard equipment for both was listed already... They're about equal in terms of firepower.

Elites are not the whole Covenant, so they don't get to glass the planet big grin.

"Predator" is a human term as well. Their real name are "yautja". Does this change anything? Heck no.

Elites fight future humans, who aren't a whole lot smarter than pesent humans (except for the Spartans... But each one of them beats the crap out of Elites). They just have better guns.

Since both are about equal in firepower, it all comes down to skill. Predators have it in spades. In terms of strength, Preds still win. Their bodies have close enough to no fat at all. Each one weighs around 200-300 pounds, that being only muscle and bone. And females are the same as males, but a lot bigger.

RagnaViper
Originally posted by cking
elites are very smart, that isn't their real name, it is just a name by the humans. you have to know the history of the covenant before you can start calling them dumb.

You make me laugh.

Darkstorm Zero
Ok, I think thats enough, the personal attacks have started and I won't be apart of that, my own decisions about the Predators beating the Elites have not been countered so i'll leave it at that

Someone made a good point about the Elites taking on humans that have advanced technology, That IS a good point, but I have a counter for that, Humans and Aliens are not the only things Predators hunt, many Prey species are technologically advanced.

With that said, I am asking Dave to have a look through this topic and see if order can be restored before the whole thread gets closed because a few people have resorted to personal attacks and flaming.

RagnaViper
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Ok, I think thats enough, the personal attacks have started and I won't be apart of that, my own decisions about the Predators beating the Elites have not been countered so i'll leave it at that

Someone made a good point about the Elites taking on humans that have advanced technology, That IS a good point, but I have a counter for that, Humans and Aliens are not the only things Predators hunt, many Prey species are technologically advanced.

With that said, I am asking Dave to have a look through this topic and see if order can be restored before the whole thread gets closed because a few people have resorted to personal attacks and flaming.

/Casts "Personal Attack" on (target) Darkstorm Zero.

OSHIT

Hit_and_Miss
Elites fly the ships, man the ships... why couldn't they glass a planet??? You talk about them being on equal firepower?? elites could kill a predator in one shot from there plasma rifles, they would easily melt them though. Spartans can lift a tank at 66 tons and possible more, the elites can lift it too but the "fall of reach" tells us that the spartans are a bit stronger... A predator can? throw Arnie 5 meters? i doubt they can match an elite on a strength par...

Elites kill predators in one shot.. predators have to shoot them about 10 times to get past there shielding (assuming there plasma blast are just as strong as elites)

You guys seem hellbent on stripping away the elites technological advantage, I agree its hard to separate them from the covenant. But they were the first covenant army. they had all the techno made for them. You very rarely met another covenant, flying a banshee or using a tank. the only time I can think is when the brutes do.
Elites alone conquered the other worlds to make them join the covenant.

Darkstorm Zero if i remember my AVP games couldn't humans kill all the predators still with bullets?? the predators had some mean troops but they all still got killed by humans, a few of the predator army might have that shield, not all.
Could you tell me who the predators have killed with better tech then the elites, I'm interested to read up on them now!

GGgrievous725
Elites do have the advantage predator weapons dont stand a chance if preds shoot there nets elites have energy swords big grin Predators have alot of weapons but they only have on of it the only think they can keep using is the blades and plasma gun and elites have many different weapons snipers all kinds of things and there good with all of em

Hooverman
im sticking with the predators on this one think of when the predators were tranning in "avp" when the 3 predators took on like 100000 aliens and took them all out it would be the same thing with this but id like 2 c active camo attacks like little squads every once and awhile that would b soo cool but im sticking with predators otherwise

Hit_and_Miss
Honestly what have predators got over elites????

Apparently the "coolness" factor counts alot in your guys opinions.

Lets remember that all the attacks the predators have do have been on people not even knowing there going to be attacked.
Walking down the road then BLAM your skulls on the mantle for some predator, yup he just the L33Test hunter I know! lol
Where as Elites actually waged war against you.

I would give it to the predators under the following conditions;
No vehicles
Elites only carry plasma rifles and swords
Fair numbers
and the area was a jungle. or some other no open area.

otherwise the Elites would beat the predators.

Hooverman
Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
Honestly what have predators got over elites????

Apparently the "coolness" factor counts alot in your guys opinions.

Lets remember that all the attacks the predators have do have been on people not even knowing there going to be attacked.
Walking down the road then BLAM your skulls on the mantle for some predator, yup he just the L33Test hunter I know! lol
Where as Elites actually waged war against you.

I would give it to the predators under the following conditions;
No vehicles
Elites only carry plasma rifles and swords
Fair numbers
and the area was a jungle. or some other no open area.

otherwise the Elites would beat the predators.
isn't that what its supposed 2 b oh and u forgot grenades

Hit_and_Miss
No I think the area will have alot to do with it as well. predators could hunt in a jungle, I don't think there are many lvls on halo where a predator could hunt. OH and this is all assuming that there weapons can actually break the elites shields quick enough.... I forgot to mention that. grenades... gez would you like me to pick a day for the fight as well???? lol

Hooverman
y not.............. o and when i said that i meant what u described in general not just the area

GGgrievous725
yeah but you would have to take all that stuff from the elites thats like all there weaponry but obviously in a wide open battle with all there weapons elites will crush all the preds they can beat em without vehicles anyway

Hit_and_Miss
exactly thats why GGgrievous.

Predators are good but not good enough....

DarkC
Elites.

cking
elites

Dark bandit2
Look, Elites are not the same as Alians In AVP. So everyone one that keeps talking about that plz stop

2nd. That depends if the humans are helping out the Preds.
If they are.....well one spartan can kill off about 5000 Elites.
If there not Maybe Elites would win because they have
many more weapons and veicles or W/E ( Kinda Sleepy lol )
And the Preds. Self destruct would work...but it would also take out a couple more guys from both sides....so i doudt they would take the
risk. In The End It just comes down to luck And how good of a Aim they have....we cant really say who would win if it has never happened


Right?....

Dark bandit2
Plus We Dont know what Both Races Have....they may have un heard of weapons and we just have not seen them yet...




I hope im making a point...

Hit_and_Miss
lol you couldn't be more off the mark dark bandit... Did you read all the posts before you wrote anything??? humans helping??? this is purely Elites vs Predators. we can not base our arguments on wild speculation like predators having "acmes special elite killing gun (guarantied instant kill)"

GGgrievous725
yeah but it might help elites if the predators bought from Acme there stuff always screws up

Dark bandit2
I never Said they had a special elite killing gun or somthing like that...just weapons we have not seen..Ok?....And i only said if humans help because i thought they joined forces one time and earths greatist foe is the elites...Ok?... wink

Metalmanx
Man, this shouldn't even be a contest. I love Halo and everything about it, but the Elites would go down HARD in this battle.

Predators are trained FAR TOO MUCH better than Elites are. Physically, they're both about the same size, Predators should be stronger and fastre, however. Preds also have better reflexes and everything. Basically, they're better than Elites physically. Predators also have more advanced technology than Elites do.

Cloaking is pointless since both sides can do it and the Predators can see them either way.

Predators are born living hunter/warriors. That's all they do. That's what their race/species is: Hunters and Warriors.

Before Elites joined the Covenant I'm sure they weren't the same as Predators. But their size, speed, strength, combat ability led them to become the master warriors of the Covenant.

And whoever uses Alien vs. Predator as reference is sorely mistaken.

First, those three Predators were VASTLY outnumbered. Second, the humans greatly hindered their performance. Third, the Preds were younglings, going on some of their first hunts ever. If the Predators had sent just one Elder Predator, the Aliens wouldn't even stand a chance.

Someone mentioned the Elites' plasma rifle would prove fatal to the Predators. Do you guys not remember the high-powered plasma cannon mounted to the Predator's shoulder? I think they know all about plasma and what it can do, so they're not going to stand there and take it. And last time I checked, plasma is just as bad for Elites as well.

If this is a full-scale, no vehicle battle between the two...the Elites get stomped hard. The Predators will have brand new skulls by the end of the day.

Hit_and_Miss
sigh...... again people giving predators too much... yes we all love predators... but, Elites 66tons strength... predators?? anyone want to estimate a number??? below 20 though... elites almost on a par with MC who has greatly increased reactions and speed, MC>Elites but elites are a close second. predators? again not exactly master fighters are they?

Evolution, animals evolve so they can survive in an environment. predators evolved to be great hunters as there ancestors hunted. Elites evolved the same way so we can guess that there ancestors weren't couch-potatoes.

everyone keeps saying this rubbish about there being greater predators.. " LOL 1 L33T [email protected] PRED OW3N5 ELITE" yes but theres not that many elders are there? not all of the predators are elders, same with the elites there are some master elites some young elites, so both sides have this "experience" advantage.

again... predators any shielding??? nope, any great armor? not really... sure there wearing something but not exacly alot. there plasma cannon would hit an elite the elite shield takes it... the elite shoots a pred the elite dies. plasma melts though there "armor" and there skin. Elites are light years ahead of predators. we can asume there guns are better then the predators. future tech > present tech.

Dark bandit2
I know i agree with hit and miss...I think the Preds are the same as elites. I go with both..i mean they both could win right..we will never know till it really happens....

GGgrievous725
how can people keep saying that preds have better technology its just dumb preds have one just one gun and if it shoots elites well they have shields so it'll take a few shots plus elites energy swords will make quick work of any predator there nets would be useless it couldnt break through there armor before they cut it open with there swords preds have spears but can they penetrate through a shield nope

SaTsuJiN
Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
we can asume there guns are better then the predators. future tech > present tech.

do you honestly consider
- flying razor hoop..
- mask with several different kinds of optical scanning..
- shoulder mounted plasma cannon..
- nuclear level self detonation device
- active cloaking
to be present technology (as I'm sure you're referring to predators.. cuz if you're talking about elites.. you may possibly qualify for a straight jacket and a padded room.. o_o.. )?... I'd really like to go to your world.. must be a cool place..

also. have you considered that the predators jump time?... they had old revolvers.. dinosaur skulls.. and I believe futuristic equipment aboard their spacecraft in their 'trophy room'.. I would come to believe they are some pretty tough customers... compare this with say... "let us worship the holy ring" attitude..

GGgrievous725
my gosh predators have a super long life span they cannot possibly jump time then they would never have trouble like they could go back in time so that they didnt die besides that ship had many predators in it the dinosaur skull might have belonged to the elder or another pred who killed a dino and they left it there so know some stuff about predators before you post stupid crap like that. Also why is it odd that elites have a religion?

Hit_and_Miss
Satsujin... what are you talking about?

do you honestly consider
- flying razor hoop..
ZENA HAD ONE!!!! she not from the future.
- mask with several different kinds of optical scanning..
thats cause they can't see and need glasses...
- shoulder mounted plasma cannon..
wooo who doesn't have one??? don't they sell them at walmart?
- nuclear level self detonation device
again available at walmart.
- active cloaking
both have them...

lets consider some elite tech...
Energy sword
Shields
plasma tanks
elite ships>pred ships (too many points to raise so ill sum up with that)
Armor
Advanced computer systems
did have a moon sized base for repairing space ships (till MC blew it up)

Predator mentality "Look a man holding a gun, Obviously one of there most elite soldiers, I'll kill him while I'm cloaked with a gun from a distance, W0W I'm l33T now" man turned out to be a local drug dealer, Another fine hunt worth of the book of records....

Satsujin just stop trolling cause MC>SA.

GGgrievous725
wow you just got told Satsujin like how stewie told that black dude when he was playing basketball this is my house

DaRk Lotus
Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
Predator... they have many types of optical scanning ranging from heat to night vision.. they have no problem climbing structures of any kind.. and have a real love for skulls with spines attatched... happy

Thoes arre called trophy's Happy Dance They collect the heads from there pray. God I love the Predators.

SaTsuJiN
Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
Satsujin... what are you talking about?

ZENA HAD ONE!!!! she not from the future.

thats cause they can't see and need glasses...

wooo who doesn't have one??? don't they sell them at walmart?

again available at walmart.

both have them...

lets consider some elite tech...
Energy sword
Shields
plasma tanks
elite ships>pred ships (too many points to raise so ill sum up with that)
Armor
Advanced computer systems
did have a moon sized base for repairing space ships (till MC blew it up)

Predator mentality "Look a man holding a gun, Obviously one of there most elite soldiers, I'll kill him while I'm cloaked with a gun from a distance, W0W I'm l33T now" man turned out to be a local drug dealer, Another fine hunt worth of the book of records....

Satsujin just stop trolling cause MC>SA.

Mmhmm.. grievous.. at least try to formulate a complete sentence before entering a debate.. being able to express ones thoughts clearly matters quite a bit..

H_a_M >>

- Xena's wasnt a mechanical device with a heat sensor

- you had nothing better to say about the mask so why bother

- see above statement for the next 4

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as for the elites supposed good points.. noone knows exactly how many weapons the predators have acquired from traversing a seemingly endless path (and time span) as they search for their trophies.. if preds ships can jump time.. I'm sure they have the covenant beat in terms of computer systems and ship design

obviously using vehicles isnt a very warrior like way to vanquish an enemy..

as for your argument about predator using cloaking to kill someone.. it seemed quite a few elites had tried that with master chief over the course of the two halo's... however for the predator.. its very much like a tiger in the jungle.. you dont see it hiding in the foliage.. but when you walk past it jumps on you and rips you to shreds.. so what exactly makes this a dishonorable means of combat?... the 'target' very well knows the predator is after him.. I'm sure if you had come from another planet.. and came across a being with a weapon you'd consider it to be a warrior also.. as predator culture wasnt very elaborated on (that I know of)

as for armor.. its very arbiter like... they go with only their wits and weapons

as for your halo post statement.. you're obviously a next gen gamer, or you wouldnt be humping master chiefs leg

Hit_and_Miss
what are you on about satsujin. I can't believe you would come out with such rubbish.
Yes we can all speculate that predators might have a fabled "elite killing gun" or some super tech.
So I'll speculate that some elites have supermans power, and perhaps some of them have the ability to blow up worlds. yes we can all give them mystery items and powers all we want. However without proof of said items, I'll conclude Preds have some moldy old skulls, a few pre 21th guns and some other crap collected from other none combatons they kill....

If you can come up with some actual points based on facts for once that would be great. I'm fed up with speculation and conjecture. (they don't stand up in a court of law, without a tiny bit of proof)

"I'm sure they have the covenant beat in terms of computer systems and ship design"
yes thats why they crash them into the middle of NY

They don't time travel, thats just stupid. they just live long and pass on there items.

Elites armor is better then arbiter armor. AND STILL preds have no shielding.
You can't call the predators weapons an advantage when the elites have the same tech abilities. they only thing there laking is a "nuke" on their arm. By the way I don't think it was a nuke.

The mask doesn't help them a whole deal, both sides can detect each other cloaked. the reason they have them is cause a pred without is liable to chew its own face off!

Yes I like halo. You like Metroid? whats your point. I'm sure the same aplies for you then. although u got the better deal with the leg humping..smile

Arbiter
If an elite can go camo I'm pretty sure they came up with a way to detect them.

GGgrievous725
Satsujin I pity you almost as much as I pity Quagmire for thinking Taylor Hanson was a girl

SaTsuJiN
Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss

If you can come up with some actual points based on facts for once that would be great. I'm fed up with speculation and conjecture. (they don't stand up in a court of law, without a tiny bit of proof)

"I'm sure they have the covenant beat in terms of computer systems and ship design"
yes thats why they crash them into the middle of NY

They don't time travel, thats just stupid. they just live long and pass on there items.

Elites armor is better then arbiter armor. AND STILL preds have no shielding.
You can't call the predators weapons an advantage when the elites have the same tech abilities. they only thing there laking is a "nuke" on their arm. By the way I don't think it was a nuke.

The mask doesn't help them a whole deal, both sides can detect each other cloaked. the reason they have them is cause a pred without is liable to chew its own face off!

Yes I like halo. You like Metroid? whats your point. I'm sure the same aplies for you then. although u got the better deal with the leg humping..smile

- I believe there were comic books based off of the predator characters, but I have no interest in seeking them

- to crash a ship means the ship is destroyed and no longer functions. Seeing how they fly off at the end tells us that the ship was not crashed, but landed in the sub sewer systems of NYC

- makes sense.. but that just comes to show you they've been killing since before many worlds came to fully 'evolve' and flourish

- well.. earth weapons are apparently primative compared to the elites.. however master chiefs combat prowess has proven that weaponry doesnt matter as much as experience.. which in this case, predators have the heads up (not to mention if earthen bullets can eventually destroy the elite shield.. a predator should have little to no problem). As for the nuke.. I'm pretty sure it was an explosion at least spanning a few blocks.. and I havent seen the alien vs predator movie to see if it was used again.

- I'm pretty sure their mask has another property, seeing how all that hissing comes from their dreadlock looking apparati upon removal of the visor.. if it was purely visual, I'm thinking the removal would be much more simplistic

- Well, to simply say THIS > THAT is pointless to mention in an entirely different thread.. thus I felt it deserved an equally pointless reply

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Grievous... I 'dont' pity you.. simply because you chose to be the way you are now..

Hit_and_Miss
Still I ask you people WHAT IS SOO GOOD ABOUT PREDATORS??? where please tell me where they have the advantage over elites...

Satsujin. both sides have experianced members... there shielding gives them a huge advantage!

tell me what advatages they get from the mask???
more speculation of it having more abilities.....

GGgrievous725
seriously hit_and_miss is right the predators have never faced anything as bad as elites there strongest enemy yet is the Aliens

Arbiter
Aliens are just pussy versions of Elites (Sort of...I guess)

SaTsuJiN
Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
Still I ask you people WHAT IS SOO GOOD ABOUT PREDATORS??? where please tell me where they have the advantage over elites...

Satsujin. both sides have experianced members... there shielding gives them a huge advantage!

tell me what advatages they get from the mask???
more speculation of it having more abilities.....

Elites have no melee prowess.. predators will just wind up adding more skulls to their trophy room

if the shielding cant withstand human bullets.. predators can just slice through it

also, I recall the mask being able to scan the physiological structures of the enemy he's looking at (muscle tissues, bone, etc)..

and I'm sorry.. but the flood is nothing compared to Alien

Arbiter
Why use melee in war?

SaTsuJiN
well.. how big of a battle are we talking here?.. (also Im not sure predator uses projectile weapons often.. they seem to like the spear and the homing razor disk)

Arbiter
Plus why use melee when you have Plasma Rifles, Plasma Grenades, Beam Swords, and so many cool weapons?

Hit_and_Miss
As I said before Elites can lift a 66ton tank as well! there almost as strong as MC. predators are the serious under weights satsujin. elites use melee attacks all the time. human bullets are more advanced in the future. and it takes alot of rounds to penetrate the shields on them. predators take a couple of rounds.

You always come out with the same points. Aliens vs the flood would make a good thread though. I'm undecided on that front. one on one an alien could win but the flood would out number aliens sooo quickly.

Dark bandit2
I Agree With Hit_and_Miss...About the bullets...not the Flood vs. alian
Its the year 2534 or somthing like that when MC starts battling the
Elites. There Bullets must be much more Advanced....as in the shape
or the ability to penitrate Armor...

SaTsuJiN
Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
As I said before Elites can lift a 66ton tank as well! there almost as strong as MC. predators are the serious under weights satsujin. elites use melee attacks all the time. human bullets are more advanced in the future. and it takes alot of rounds to penetrate the shields on them. predators take a couple of rounds.

You always come out with the same points. Aliens vs the flood would make a good thread though. I'm undecided on that front. one on one an alien could win but the flood would out number aliens sooo quickly. all this lifting 1,000,000,000,000 tons stuff in the halo universe is completely retarded.. I hope they can somehow come to understand that before they write a story

in any case, I'm sure preds prefer melee the most.. although I doubt human bullets are that much different.. unless you're saying they put forerunner technology into their human weapons (which I wouldnt doubt with the kind of inconsistency between the book and the game)

the flood 'could' try to outnumber alien.. but with the aliens bleeding acid, there would be no possible way the flood could latch on long enough to host (as we've seen the acid blood penetrates at least 5 levels of a ships hull)

Arbiter
So what you're saying is that weapons didn't advance after 500 years?

SaTsuJiN
wouldnt the same be held for predators then?.. what do you think they could do with 500 years?.. especially considering that they already had cloaking and all this technology while earth was still using early kevlar vests

Arbiter
And the Covenant didn't? The Arbiter's armor is thousands of years old and yet it has cloaking.

GGgrievous725
Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
wouldnt the same be held for predators then?.. what do you think they could do with 500 years?.. especially considering that they already had cloaking and all this technology while earth was still using early kevlar vests

well since we don't know what preds will have in 500 years though by then they maybe more or less advanced lol like how when the first civilization was around preds blast blew up an entire civilization over night but years later when fighting Arnold it only made a smoke cloud and arnold outran it in seconds wow! but yes in 500 years preds would most likely be able to defeat elites but present day preds is what we are talking about

Hit_and_Miss
I love the way satsujin puts down facts and then comes up with more speculations and conjecture about a species when the facts tell him hes lost.

Lets remember the halo rings were used once when the flood nearly took over the Galaxy. Aliens are always held in check.

I believe the game tells us that the flood are compatible with all life....
you could see some cool flood aliens running around...

Freaky Zeeky
Originally posted by GGgrievous725
to advanced alien species who would win in a war

Predators. Those huge bombs they have on their arms could destroy a planet.

Arbiter
The predarots could have never destroyed Reach.

Freaky Zeeky
?

Arbiter
Reach was Earth's greatest military base.

Hit_and_Miss
lol bombs on there arms... its a war between each other.. not who could destroy the most. plus they would kill all the other predators fighting. Anyway elites "glass" planet. (there ships orbit a planet and bombard it till everything on the planet is dust)

Darkstorm Zero
Aloow mw to ask you something Hit_and_Miss, exactly where is the proof YOU offer of the Elite's strength ability? As far as I know they are only marginally stronger than standard marines...

Hit_and_Miss
Ive read the 3 books and played all the games. If you don't trust me read them or play the games and see for yourself

Darkstorm Zero
I have... And other than the Tank Tipping (Which is a gameplay feat not a fact) there has been no real strength displays which have topped anything the Predators have... Olay concrete jungle and you'll see what I mean.

Hit_and_Miss
not true in the games they can melee with chief and it is said they almost stand on a par with him.
Chief has got the strength to flip tanks from his peek human genes, upgraded body and suit. (yes it helps in the games)

remember him pushing the bomb off the MAC gun station?

unfortuanly I can't prove there strength from any other means as the previous books give no real stories of elite strength other then its nearly on a par with chief

GGgrievous725
in concrete jungle preds are as strong as they normaly are except for stupid crap that preds never would be able to do or would do like following drug dealers around yeah right and no singal predator would be able to take down that many aliens its just not possible when two new predators are killed by one alien and somehow that one survives an explosion that destroys an entire city and everything in it except him but if you find something thats actualy believable for a pred to do please tell me

Hit_and_Miss
elite info here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elite_%28Halo%29

Darkstorm Zero
My point exactly... you ask for proof of Predator Feats yet offer none in return other than the breiof conjecture that their strength is near comparable with MC's.

MC actually dragged that Bomb on the ground, For a guy who could lift 66 tonns he sure was struggling!

Remember, the Vehicle flipping was a Gameplay feat, the designers probably left that in there so you wouldn't lose vehicles too often

Hit_and_Miss
lol I though you read the books they tell you how they are on a near par with chief. my speculation is based on facts.

Mc couldn't lift it as it was covered in spikes how could of he pick it up. also we don't know it could of been more then 66tons.
Mc also flips them in the books if I remember.
how many other games have feats like that?? how many gameplay feets does predator have???

tell me where a predator has shown this much strength then...

GGgrievous725
How do you know he was struggling he was wearing a mask so therefore showing no facial expression it may have been easier to drag it then to lift a spike covered explosive device! a struggling person could barely drag that thing! what would you rather to i ask you carry a spike covered explosive device or simply drag it with little trouble but you can always take the hard way

Darkstorm Zero
What that has told me is nothing I did not already know... We know certain Elites are stronger than others, Preadators are the same way.

Hit_and_Miss
wheres the predator strength examples plz.....

GGgrievous725
man your dumb darkstorm we once again proved you wrong with your master chief theory

Hit_and_Miss
"....go grievous its your birthday....."

GGgrievous725
lol yeah i know im awesome but you to have proved many a stupid theory wrong
"...Go hit and miss its your birthday...."

Darkstorm Zero
And once again Grevious, you resort to cheap insults...

The fact that the device was covered in spikes is irrelevant, he barely was able to pull that thing.

Predator strength feats, as I said before, play Concrete Jungle, do a close combat kill, or Jump! Predators jump 20 feet regularly, MC and the Elites barely jump more than 6.

Predators twist living humans into mangled corpses in seconds, Elites club a human marine 3 times to kill them.

As for how I know, take a look at his body as he was dragging that bomb... Thats not the posture of a man who could easily lift the thing over hus head and do 50+ benchpresses with it...

Arbiter
So a Predator will just pick up an Elite and break them in two. Elites are far stronger then humans.

Darkstorm Zero
I never denied that, but the preds still have the advantage in close quarters, which was the point I was making, their physical strengths are comparable.

Hit_and_Miss
lol MC dragged that with ease didn't he only have one hand on it??? elites still have shield for predators to worry about. elites kill preds in one hit. preds need loads of hit to break an elite shield. darkstorm this is getting silly now. your obvious love of predators has blinded you to some simple truths.

Darkstorm Zero
Since when do Elites kill pred's in one hit? and I already pointed out that Elite's arn't the only ones with shields...



Hello pot, this is kettle, your black... Look who's talking. you who has ignored point after point... MC had both hands on that bomb for a start, you, Grevious and Arbiter have used every unsolicited advantage from Numbers to their alleigance to the Covenant to give the Elites the advantage...

And now Grevious is calling me dumb and your calling me silly because I made good points for the Predators based solely on what they ALONE can do? At least debate more intelligently. The drivel that has come out over the past day isn't cutting it...

Hit_and_Miss
Were is this mystical strength still though?
Killing humans is nothing. Elites have more strength and you know it. predators are strong, but no predator could drag that bomb.
yes some have shields not all... EVERY SINGLE ELITE HAS SHIELDS.
You yet to offer a single point I haven't countered.

I'm a big fan of both. So much of a fan even I haven't watched Aliens vs Predators so not to ruin my passion with a crappy film.

yes yes predators can do "x" alone... elites could do most of it too.

you tell me one area where predators have a definite advantage.

ALL Elites have SHIELDS.
Elites have better guns.
Elites have vehicles.
All fights for Elites are wars. predators are more skirmish

Some more comical advantages.
Elites are better looking.
Elites don't collect dirty inanimate objects.
Elites would kill children. (honour stops predators)
Elites don't sound like crickets normaly.

Darkstorm Zero
These are your supposed advantages?
ALL Elites have SHIELDS. (yeah and each lasts about 1 shot of the plasmacaster.)
Elites have better guns. (Your oppinion, I beleive predator weapons are far superior)
Elites have vehicles. (The covenant have better vehicles, NOT the elites... Anyways this is irrelevant since it was stipulated that Elites don't get vehicles.)
All fights for Elites are wars. predators are more skirmish (The difference being? a fight is a fight so stick to the matter at hand.)

Some more comical advantages. (I know I'm in for an eyesore but I'll adress these too)
Elites are better looking. (Your oppinion entirely...)
Elites don't collect dirty inanimate objects. (What does this prove?)
Elites would kill children. (honour stops predators)(And this makes them better because...?)
Elites don't sound like crickets normaly. (Ok, this is just stupid...)

Mystical strength? you havn't played concrete jungle have you? And your assuming that Elites have more strength... yet I see strength feats for predators and none other than Tank flipping for Elites... Tell me again who has Mystical strength?

Elite shields are crap and YOU know it... if it can't stand up to susstained MG fire for more than a second (And it cannot), how will it stand up to exploding plasma energy? not well at all...

Arbiter
Elites have honur. They repect the prohpets and the Arbiter because that's their religion.
Anywho,
Predators lost this one and you know it.

Darkstorm Zero
Originally posted by Arbiter
Elites have honur. They repect the prohpets and the Arbiter because that's their religion.
Anywho,
Predators lost this one and you know it.

Your oppinion, not mine, and without the unsolicited advantages, i'd say that, although hard fought, the Preds would win it.

Arbiter
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
These are your supposed advantages?
ALL Elites have SHIELDS. (yeah and each lasts about 1 shot of the plasmacaster.)
Elites have better guns. (Your oppinion, I beleive predator weapons are far superior)
Elites have vehicles. (The covenant have better vehicles, NOT the elites... Anyways this is irrelevant since it was stipulated that Elites don't get vehicles.)
All fights for Elites are wars. predators are more skirmish (The difference being? a fight is a fight so stick to the matter at hand.)

Some more comical advantages. (I know I'm in for an eyesore but I'll adress these too)
Elites are better looking. (Your oppinion entirely...)
Elites don't collect dirty inanimate objects. (What does this prove?)
Elites would kill children. (honour stops predators)(And this makes them better because...?)
Elites don't sound like crickets normaly. (Ok, this is just stupid...)

Mystical strength? you havn't played concrete jungle have you? And your assuming that Elites have moire strength... yet I see strength feats for predators and none other than Tank flipping for Elites... Tell me again who has Mystical strength?

Elite shields are crap and YOU know it... if it can't stand up to susstained MG fire for more than a second (And it cannot), how will it stand up to exploding plasma energy? not well at all...
Let's look at the vehciles:
I see Elites in Ghosts, Banshees, and everything else. Only Elites and Brutes can use a Banshee. And a fight isn't a fight. Look up fight then look up war. Elites are trained for war and Predators are trained for fights. Wars take a LOT more to win then a fight. A machine gun? I go through two or more rounds from a battle rifle to break through their shields and yet Aliens used no weapons and they killed many Predators. And plus the war with the Covenant is 500 years in the future and Earth's weapons are better. Brutes that are so strong in might are able to break a Phantom in two fear the Elites because they are suprieor.

Darkstorm Zero
...................................

Ok, Comjecture again, what makes you think Predator Technology wouldn't evolve in 500 years time?

Vehicles have been RULED OUT Arbiter, there's no use debating them, and as I have stated before, even if you did have them, Predator Military Hydras would utterly own them.

Brutes fear elites? Right, is that when they slaughtered them all over High Charity?

Arbiter
Brutes jumped the elites went they had no clue what was about to happen. And we can't see their tech in 500 years now can we?

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