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I hate politically correct people A Midget is a Midget Not a Little Person, and A Retard is a Retard, Not a Mentally challenged person...

actually midgets and dwarfs tend to prefer to be called little people. if thats their wish then i think we should respect that.

as far as retarded people, i have yet to meet any that prefer to be called "mentally challenged" or even "developementally disabled"....or even gave a shit. so why bother with all the extra syllables? by the very noninsulting definition of the word 'retarded', its pretty straight forward.

my favorite is 'african american'. i remember when that trend was started (probably by uptight white upper class pricks) and black people seemed to just laugh it off. ask any black person which they would prefer to be called and chances are they're content with 'black'

so my opinion is that its up to the minority group of what they want to be called. if they wished to be titled as something we should respect and abide. if they dont give a shit, we shouldnt give a shit. simple.

I agree somewhat, I agree anyone should be allowed to want to be called whatever they want, but, by no means should I feel pressured into heeding to their wishes.

Bowing down to others wishes is a sign of weakness and dependant thought, which in my book is horrid.

Respect and abide....no.

Respect is earned, not by asking but by proving you are worth the title you want to be given. Abiding is out of the question.


I'm southern and black, so I want to be called King Lord God of All.
Will you respect and abide that?

Originally posted by long pig
Respect is earned, not by asking but by proving you are worth the title you want to be given. Abiding is out of the question.

no, its a sign of respect.

Q:What is repect when it's not earned?
A:Politically Correctness.

Respect loses it's meaning when you give it to people who do not deserve it.

example of people who dont deserve respect?

and what i am saying is this. if you live somewhere, and the majority of the population decides that you and everyone like you shall be called "cracker b!tch". now, eventually you start getting irritated and say "we dont want to be called cracker b!tch anymore. they all refuse to abide because they feel you dont deserve any respect and that to respect your wishes would be simply bowing down and being punks. thats basically your mentallity. unless you can give me a decent example otherwise, i see this arguement as you whining that you cant be a bigot. well, you ARE free to be a bigot, just as long as you dont attack an individual with racist comments. so whats the complaint?

It varies form person to person, you intentionally or not, missunderstood it as I'm saying that it spans for entire groups, which it doesn't.

Example of someone who doesn't deserve my respect? Do you want pictures? I mean, this state is crawling with them. Whores, theives, racists PC people yada yada...goes on and on.

What's the complaint? Read the article.

Originally posted by SlipknoT
I hate politically correct people A Midget is a Midget Not a Little Person, and A Retard is a Retard, Not a Mentally challenged person...

Yeah, and if we remain PC we good old white boys is "melanin challenged" and old people are "chronologically challenged" and so on and so on...we spend enough money as it is now trying to not piss off this group or that group and we're no better for it so as far as I'm concerned, screw PC.

"Those that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety,deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Ben Franklin, 1759

Uh yeah...give up YOUR safety and YOUR security by letting everyone else do what they want w\o regard for others' fellings. Just let everyone walk all over us. Good one, Ben.

I'm kind of in a hurry, so my reply will be a bit short. But when i come back, i'll be sure to post again.

That stuff about PC being similar to communism is a load of bullshit. It's similar to the writings of Marx and Engel. THAT IS NOT COMMUNISM. It's called theoretical socialism. And guess what....it's all about equality for EVERYONE. That was the foundation for their theoretical socialism. However, it's called THEORETICAL, because never, NOWHERE in the world where it's been "appied" has it ever actually worked, and Marx and Engel most likely knew that would happen.

You can't FORCE people to be politically correct, or to see themselves as equal to everyone else. It has to be a decision made by the masses, and that's never gonna happen.

As for being politically correct, i have absolutely no problem with that, simply because of the way i was brought up. I was brought up to respect and be nice to everybody i met, regardless of gender, color of skin or place of origin. And so i AM. I have a best friend that is black, a very close friend that is a muslim, etc. etc.

The only problem i have with it are some sexual harrasment laws, simply because they can be bent and twisted by a smart enough woman. I'm not saying this happens (though it most likely does), but if you go out with a co-worker, then she gets bored with you and decides to break up with you, then you (deservingly) get a raise or a better position in the company, she can file a suit for sexual harrasment, just out of spite

~wickerman~

Maybe if more people were polite rather then assholes PC wouldn't be a necessity. Stupid people can only get a response from people by saying stupid, obnoxious offensive things because their wit is too minuscule to think up something funny/witty/clever, as such, they'll continue to do so because that's teh only way they get any form of attention.

I don't like PC, but stupid people should be censored so I don't have to listen to them.

Yes, agree there, tact is an important part of social interactions. As is common courtesy and politeness. There is the whole "do unto others..." thing, which I personally think has more value then absurd PC.

I was talking to some of my friends one day and I used 'black' to refer to a black person, I was promptly called a racist bigot. Politically correct people suck ass through a straw.

There is a difference between:

1) Being pressured socially to use a preferred term for a group of people rather than a generic, non-offensive term

AND

2) Using blatant slander to refer to a group of people by using a term that is universally known as offensive.

Example: Calling a homeless person a "splib" or "parasite" is slander. Calling them "poor" or "homeless" is not.

Sorry if my example's not the best, but you should get the idea of what I'm trying to say.

Originally posted by botankus

Example: Calling a homeless person a "splib" or "parasite" is slander. Calling them "poor" or "homeless" is not.

Sorry if my example's not the best, but you should get the idea of what I'm trying to say.

another example to suit my point. find me one single homeless person who is offended by the term "bum" or "hobo". just one. no, there isnt because they dont give a shit. they have bigger concerns than PC, mainly food and shelter....you know....not dying.

thats another case where PC terms have been created by uptight obnoxious assclowns who seem to think they're able to empathise with homeless people in any way. same for 'african american. black people dont give a hit about the term, just that they are treated with respect and as equals.

PC is usually spawned by people who claim to feel the pain of others and that it can all be cured by making a new word. george carlin does a great bit on this.

but like i said, if a particular group finds offence (not an individual but a majority of that group) in a term, then i think their wishes should be respected. is it that difficult to change a term to make them feel accepted and respected? is that really the equivalent to pissing on the constitution and burning a flag? looks like there's obnoxious drama queens on both sides of the issue.

Originally posted by PVS
another example to suit my point. find me one single homeless person who is offended by the term "bum" or "hobo".

Not this guy...

Another thing is that it seems any noble aspirations PC might have once had, like stopping racism and so forth, has been usurped because of this modern age of litigation, when a person can decide they are insulted by nearly anything, and can thus sue. Alot of examples then of PC I have seen of late haven't been about protecting people who need it, but rather of governments, schools, businesses and so forth covering their behinds and applying bizarre and oft absurd logic to things in a way that will make them avoid liability. It kind of loses meaning after a while as it becomes a joke, or down right oppressive in it's own way.

here's what i find very dangerous about PC.
it seems that bigots and racists now use PC to their advantage.
they preach racist hateful shit, but use catch phrases like "not ALL..."

this way they can say: "muslems are terrorists!! (not ALL muslems mind you)"

so, with their PC disclaimer, they lie about what they truly believe. it enables them to mask their ignorance, but yet the fear, ignorance, and hate is still there, covered up by a disclaimer. if this is pointed out, they will say something like "lets call a spade a spade! we cant afford to be PC with this situation"....so basically many use PC as a selective tool. one which they may use to preach hate with a meaningless disclaimer tag, and then accuse others of bullshitting with PC at the same time.

i see this technique used constantly, in day to day life and on this forum.
PC is simply becoming a tool which bigots use to manipulate their words to have a double meaning, speaking to those who harbor the same hate, but disclaiming to avoid attacks from those who would call them on their bigotry.

Originally posted by PVS
i see this technique used constantly, in day to day life and on this forum.

At least I'm not a wop.

Originally posted by PVS
here's what i find very dangerous about PC.
it seems that bigots and racists now use PC to their advantage.
they preach racist hateful shit, but use catch phrases like "not ALL..."

this way they can say: "muslems are terrorists!! (not ALL muslems mind you)"

so, with their PC disclaimer, they lie about what they truly believe. it enables them to mask their ignorance, but yet the fear, ignorance, and hate is still there, covered up by a disclaimer.

But that's saying that everyone is a latent racist, because this implies that we all go around saying one thing and meaning another.

And granted there are some who DO, but yet there are some who can distinguish between normal and extremist actions and apply that to the everyday rationale that not everyone within a race or group is indeed a terrorist or an extremist. So while some have that built in disclaimer, there are yet many who don't.

If by political correctness you mean not calling people racial slurs then I don't think it's a bad thing but it shouldn't be forced either. People should just choose not to insult others, but it shouldn't be a law or anything like that.

it would be more considered a hate crime.

But as long as they aren't threatening or preaching violence it shouldn't be a crime.. they should be able to be racist if they really want to. Forcing them not to be won't make them any less racist, it'll just make them more bitter and maybe even more racist too.

true, people do have the right to be racists.

Originally posted by cking
true, people do have the right to be racists.

Hey you have the right to Free Speech and the right to make an ass out of yourself while exercising it. Nuff said

Alright, forget the racial slurs.

Next example:

John: Hey, Cathy, I heard you got a new job.
Cathy: Yeah, it's with TV station WKRP on the five o'clock news!
John: Wow, so you're an anchorwoman now?
Cathy: Anchorperson, John. Anchorperson.
John (embarrassed): Oh! Well, excuse the hell out of me!

Okay, I just threw that last line in there. Personally, even though I'm not a big PC fan I still call them newspeople and such.

^^ Apparently no one is interested in other branches of political correctness unless it deals with a controversial one like racial slurs. Shocking!

Originally posted by Afro Cheese
If by political correctness you mean not calling people racial slurs then I don't think it's a bad thing but it shouldn't be forced either. People should just choose not to insult others, but it shouldn't be a law or anything like that.

Tell that to the NAACP every time they raise a call to war every time the N word is used by a non-black person while it flows freely between blacks every day. If they were truly for racial equality they would address reverse racism every time a white person gets slammed with "no good white MF" or when Louis Farrakhan starts his BS about Jews and Koreans being vampires who leech the black community with their stores and businesses.

But no, racism is never reverse, is it?

That's the odd thing sometimes about PC, when it makes whole sub cultures untouchable, and others it completely subjugates.

BINGO...it's like you can have signs saying you're having a "black heritage festival" or an "Chinese heritage festival" but if you put up a sign saying "White Heritage Festival" there would be a friggin' uproar as everyone would expect the NRA to be passing the white hoods and robes and the free beer. Race and heritage also play parts in the subjugation and and invinsibility you mention. Nice to see our hands are tied by simple phrases..

Originally posted by Dagons Blade
Nice to see our hands are tied by simple phrases..

Words create reality, not reflect it. It is only when a certain word has been perscribed vulgarity and degrading qualities that it becomes such.

I've often heard people say that - put up something that's pro-white, and it'll be taken racially.... and for the most part, it does seem logical

But then again, I've never seen any proof. And when I do say something pro-white, my friends jokingly say something about it.... so maybe we're exagerating that.

Anyway, my point is that I'd like to see what would really happen if something like that happened

Originally posted by Dagons Blade
BINGO...it's like you can have signs saying you're having a "black heritage festival" or an "Chinese heritage festival" but if you put up a sign saying "White Heritage Festival" there would be a friggin' uproar as everyone would expect the NRA to be passing the white hoods and robes and the free beer. Race and heritage also play parts in the subjugation and and invinsibility you mention. Nice to see our hands are tied by simple phrases..

That is right. There can be a black history month, or a chinese day parade, but if there is a white history month or a white pride day. It would be racist and wrong.

Originally posted by KidRock
That is right. There can be a black history month, or a chinese day parade, but if there is a white history month or a white pride day. It would be racist and wrong.

Do you want to know why there is no white history month, or white pride day?

Because every month is white history month and every day is white pride day when you live in a culture in which whites are the majority.

Quit feeling sorry for yourself for being a poor, repressed white heterosexual male.

He wasn't feeling sorry for himself, just pointing out the double standard of society.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Do you want to know why there is no white history month, or white pride day?

Because every month is white history month and every day is white pride day when you live in a culture in which whites are the majority.

Quit feeling sorry for yourself for being a poor, repressed white heterosexual male.

Amen to that Brotha..we actually found something to agree on..