the magus vs superman

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thesilverspider
the magus would kill supes easy

K3VIL
In his prime, the Magus possessed vast cosmic power. He possessed superhuman strength (above Class 100) and cosmic energy powers sufficient to defeat the pre-resurrection Thanos in personal combat. He could also become intangible, teleport and create teleportational portals to accommodate an army. The Magus also possessed certain vaguely defined "hyper senses" that granted him superhuman perceptive abilities. Presumably, this was some form of Cosmic Awareness. The Magus also wore a yellow soul gem on his brow that could project exotic radiation for a variety of effects. It is unknown whether this gem could steal souls or contained a Soul World.

This Magus, maybe, the current Magus can't.

guy222
magus ftw

endrict
Hey Judge!

Mr.Biscuits
awesome

King Castle
magus

tsscls
Originally posted by Mr.Biscuits
the magus would kill supes easy

Why start the thread if you know the answer?

quanchi112
Magus wins.

Don Corleone
Originally posted by quanchi112
Magus wins.

Biased! You're just picking him cuz he's on your sig.

Black bolt z
Originally posted by Don Corleone
Biased! You're just picking him cuz he's on your sig. This is about the magus.Not Adam Magus.

D_Dude1210
Current Magus wins.

Afro Magus rapes.

thanos-prime
Originally posted by Black bolt z
This is about the magus.Not Adam Magus. They're the same person.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Don Corleone
Biased! You're just picking him cuz he's on your sig. Originally posted by Black bolt z
This is about the magus.Not Adam Magus. Pwned by blackbolt.

Don Corleone
Lol

Q99
Originally posted by Mr.Biscuits
the magus would kill supes easy


So... why make the thread?

Black bolt z
Originally posted by thanos-prime
They're the same person. They are most certainly not.

Bentley
Originally posted by Q99
So... why make the thread?


It's called Quanchi debating style eek!

quanchi112
Originally posted by Bentley
It's called Quanchi debating style eek! What ?

Validity
Hmmmmmmmmm, Superman would eventually win - based on his track record of always winning in the end, even against his own death. In the end Superman wins. That is all.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Validity
Hmmmmmmmmm, Superman would eventually win - based on his track record of always winning in the end, even against his own death. In the end Superman wins. That is all. That's not how we debate on here and he doesn't always win, anyways.

Validity
Originally posted by quanchi112
That's not how we debate on here and he doesn't always win, anyways.

He would just have another power created like tivo, Superman is a walking plot device. tivo may be retconned... But, his ability to create powers out of thin air isn't.

His anti-Magus vision will do nicely. I realise that's not how you debate, you do things like suggest villians will win... Newsflash, that may not be how you debate here as you're fanboys, but, it's what happens in comics and especially Superman comics.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Validity
He would just have another power created like tivo, Superman is a walking plot device. tivo may be retconned... But, his ability to create powers out of thin air isn't.

His anti-Magus vision will do nicely. I realise that's not how you debate, you do things like suggest villians will win... Newsflash, that may not be how you debate here as you're fanboys, but, it's what happens in comics and especially Superman comics. Thor is a walking plot device too when his hammer is concerned as is the Surfer and many other characters. The hero usually always survives or comes back I mean come on it's all about money in the end but ina vs, matchup the hero doesn't have to survive or get saved,

Superman gets aid in comics against villains also doesn't always defeat the villain on his own. He also shows up in events and doesn't even defeat the main villain. I mean this is just you trying to act like the hero always wins which doesn't even always happen in the comics themselves.

Validity
If Superman was given every power he has 'ever' had, in every incarnation, he would defeat anyone. Most of the time powers get retconned from him and yes heroes get help and so do villians.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Validity
If Superman was given every power he has 'ever' had, in every incarnation, he would defeat anyone. Most of the time powers get retconned from him and yes heroes get help and so do villians. No, he wouldn't and most characters have had far more impressive powers anyways.

Villains are usually more impressive since the odds have to be stacked against the heroes anyways.

Validity
Originally posted by quanchi112
No, he wouldn't and most characters have had far more impressive powers anyways.

Villains are usually more impressive since the odds have to be stacked against the heroes anyways.

Really? than his alternative version giant cosmic universal armour.... Well O.K. then.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Validity
Really? than his alternative version giant cosmic universal armour.... Well O.K. then. That's not his ability that was a plot device he used it's like saying if Thanos had the ig/heart/cc I mean you have no valid points at this point and are just throwing anything out there and hoping it will stick.

Validity
Originally posted by quanchi112
That's not his ability that was a plot device he used it's like saying if Thanos had the ig/heart/cc I mean you have no valid points at this point and are just throwing anything out there and hoping it will stick.

Thanks for agreeing, Superman is 'a walking plot device', it's his greatest power.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Validity
Thanks for agreeing, Superman is 'a walking plot device', it's his greatest power. So is the Surfer or Thor's hammer. You really have stated nothing even remotely close to an actual point.

D_Dude1210
Originally posted by quanchi112
So is the Surfer or Thor's hammer. You really have stated nothing even remotely close to an actual point.

Agreed.

For someone named "Validity", he really hasn't presented any valid points.

King Castle
he's a sock.

you guys cant see it? erm

quanchi112
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Agreed.

For someone named "Validity", he really hasn't presented any valid points. thumb up

Stoic
Anyone ever hear the drummer from Rush play a drum solo? Well if not, you have to hear it. Now for those of you who have heard him play, just imagine him playing 10 times faster, and then you will get the picture of how fast Superman would be hitting the Magus. Let's not forget about how he can create tornadoes while beating the hell out of slower opponents as well, while slowing them down with freeze breath. Kal El would dominate.

quanchi112
Originally posted by King Castle
he's a sock.

you guys cant see it? erm Definitely.

D_Dude1210
Originally posted by King Castle
he's a sock.

you guys cant see it? erm

Agreed. Just trying to figure out who's sock he is...

Validity
Originally posted by quanchi112
So is the Surfer or Thor's hammer. You really have stated nothing even remotely close to an actual point.

Exactly, the plot drives what the characters are capable of in comics and not the powerst 'fanboy', since when havepowersts ever mattered to Superman, Thor or the Surfer. The plot would allow Superman to eventually defeat Magus as Surfer defeated Tenebrioud and Aegis. The point is a simple one. Superman wins, he has more comic appearances than anyone and in the end, whilst the battle is 'never ending', Superman wins. Only a fool believes a comic book would show Magus winning in the end against Superman. The flaw in forums like this, is they argue powersets against te laws of the Universe a character comes from. Superman is the greatest hero in the DC universe, the first law of that Universe is... Superman saves the day. Any other argument against this is childish.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Validity
Exactly, the plot drives what the characters are capable of in comics and not the powerst 'fanboy', since when havepowersts ever mattered to Superman, Thor or the Surfer. The plot would allow Superman to eventually defeat Magus as Surfer defeated Tenebrioud and Aegis. The point is a simple one. Superman wins, he has more comic appearances than anyone and in the end, whilst the battle is 'never ending', Superman wins. Only a fool believes a comic book would show Magus winning in the end against Superman. The flaw in forums like this, is they argue powersets against te laws of the Universe a character comes from. Superman is the greatest hero in the DC universe, the first law of that Universe is... Superman saves the day. Any other argument against this is childish. This isn't a comic book where the hero has to defeat the villain this is a vs. forum where we decide based on their powers, what's in character, and based on evidence.

Superman doesn't always save the day even in his own universe. Di dyou miss blackest night, sinestro corps, death of the new gods, ? LOL.

Validity
Originally posted by quanchi112
This isn't a comic book where the hero has to defeat the villain this is a vs. forum where we decide based on their powers, what's in character, and based on evidence.

Superman doesn't always save the day even in his own universe. Di dyou miss blackest night, sinestro corps, death of the new gods, ? LOL.

He saves the day whenever the story is dirsctly about him. Like this thread title and most of the time when it isn't. No hero has ever saved the day as much as Superman; therefore, based on past stories. Superman wins in the end.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Validity
He saves the day whenever the story is dirsctly about him. Like this thread title and most of the time when it isn't. No hero has ever saved the day as much as Superman; therefore, based on past stories. Superman wins in the end. That's horrible logic here. All heroes usually save the day but in the end like any great hero they receive aid they don't have here. You need to tell me how not just the hero wins.

Validity
Originally posted by quanchi112
That's horrible logic here. All heroes usually save the day but in the end like any great hero they receive aid they don't have here. You need to tell me how not just the hero wins.

It's not horrible logic, it's simply what happens when your the most famous Superhero in the world and your symbol is part of both Americana and popular culture and your name s on the comic and you have more appearances than anyone else.
Superman has never cared about being completely overmatched. Magus is basically a comic nobody, hell Adam Warlock has never been able to carry a series for long and Him was simply an attempted rapist and stalker of Sif.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Validity
It's not horrible logic, it's simply what happens when your the most famous Superhero in the world and your symbol is part of both Americana and popular culture and your name s on the comic and you have more appearances than anyone else.
Superman has never cared about being completely overmatched. Magus is basically a comic nobody, hell Adam Warlock has never been able to carry a series for long and Him was simply an attempted rapist and stalker of Sif. It's right in the rules this isn't how we debate on here. Basically your rationale is wolverine beats Magus because he's also more well known, more popular, and a good guy.


No Bias Claims
"Batman can beat Thor because he's cooler!" That's an example of how not to debate. We would like to see the rationale behind any claims that one character can beat the other rather than a claim based on popularity and subjective bias.
Also, we insist that all claims be backed up by evidence from canon sources. If you claim that Spiderman is stronger than Superman, then you have to prove it.

the ninjak
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Agreed. Just trying to figure out who's sock he is...

He's not a sock just.....I dunno.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=418663&pagenumber=2337

Validity
Originally posted by quanchi112
It's right in the rules this isn't how we debate on here. Basically your rationale is wolverine beats Magus because he's also more well known, more popular, and a good guy.


No Bias Claims
"Batman can beat Thor because he's cooler!" That's an example of how not to debate. We would like to see the rationale behind any claims that one character can beat the other rather than a claim based on popularity and subjective bias.
Also, we insist that all claims be backed up by evidence from canon sources. If you claim that Spiderman is stronger than Superman, then you have to prove it.

If that's what the writer decides yes, hence Spierman beats Firelord, Cap winds the Hulk, Hawkeye defeats an Elder of the Universe, Batman beats white Martians etc,

-Pr-
Originally posted by Validity
If that's what the writer decides yes, hence Spierman beats Firelord, Cap winds the Hulk, Hawkeye defeats an Elder of the Universe, Batman beats white Martians etc,

except that our rules don't work that way.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Magus.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Validity
If that's what the writer decides yes, hence Spierman beats Firelord, Cap winds the Hulk, Hawkeye defeats an Elder of the Universe, Batman beats white Martians etc, We don't debate based on what the writer might decide and say all heroes beat all villains first off because that's not even what happens in the comics. There's a reason heroes join teams because one on one they face threats eve they can't stop.

You make no sense and have since been banned because you were an obvious sock from the start.

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