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ok it mite of been done but i wanted find the winner and i think thor

Tossup. Any of the two can win any give day.

Where is that scan from?

why would u even make this thread? its obviously been done in comics they have same powers

Bill is physically and mentally superior, to a good degree.

Thor is superior in use of his hammer.

Originally posted by ALEMASTER
ok it mite of been done but i wanted find the winner and i think thor

I'd say Beta Ray Bill.
Why?
Well, because while he was 'normal' (well, as normal as an alien lifeform could be) he faced off against Thor and fought the Norse god, Thor lost his hammer, and Beta took it. Odin had to make StormBreaker for Beta Ray to give back Mjolnir to Thor.
Thus, if I HAD to place a bet I'd place it on Beta Ray Bill (assuming it is the normal Thor we are talking about and not the Odin force Thors or the 'place name here' Thors).

Pretty much.
BRB is > Thor in every single possible way except experience in using his hammer.

you also forget beta ray bill is one nasty fighter.

Originally posted by spetznaz
I'd say Beta Ray Bill.
Why?
Well, because while he was 'normal' (well, as normal as an alien lifeform could be) he faced off against Thor and fought the Norse god, Thor lost his hammer, and Beta took it. Odin had to make StormBreaker for Beta Ray to give back Mjolnir to Thor.
Thus, if I HAD to place a bet I'd place it on Beta Ray Bill (assuming it is the normal Thor we are talking about and not the Odin force Thors or the 'place name here' Thors).

The way I remember it, Beta gave it back to Thor anyway, and Odin decided to give him Stormbreaker after. I could be wrong though.

Thor. Beta Ray Bill was part of the Thor Corps that was getting beaten by Loki.

In their standard modes, I'd go for Beta Ray Bill. Is Thor still the Odin?

Tossup. They have both, high and low showings that could equate to each other but i'd give Thor the nods on durability. BRB is just too durable while Thor has better range of powers with or without the hammer and the chance of having warrior madness..

Equality

Id give 6/10 maybe 6.5 to Bill especially if Thor just slugs it out with him like he does with Hulk

i would give slight edge to thor because he is a ful god and can use the godblast if needs be or draw power from asgard itself als0 i think strentgh wise they are equal but i think it would be 3 out of 5 to thor bill is a mean fighter

Odin sent Thor and BRB to a place that will give BRB advantage because he wanted his son Thor to be humbled once again. They are even right down to the "T" but Thor is still more powerful than BRB because Thor is a hybrid god being a son of a sky-father "Odin" and a Elder God "Gaea", stated in Thor Annual #11 to Gaea, I want a son whose power is greater than Asgard itself, Thor has the power of Earth and Asgard and he knows how to use his full potential. And Thor has the ability to warrior madness on BRB like he did before and BRB didn't have a chance in hell of defeating Thor. Thor wins 6 or 7/10 more experince and more raw power.

thor as in ordinary thor

Originally posted by the Darkone
Odin sent Thor and BRB to a place that will give BRB advantage because he wanted his son Thor to be humbled once again. They are even right down to the "T" but Thor is still more powerful than BRB because Thor is a hybrid god being a son of a sky-father "Odin" and a Elder God "Gaea", stated in Thor Annual #11 to Gaea, I want a son whose power is greater than Asgard itself, Thor has the power of Earth and Asgard and he knows how to use his full potential. And Thor has the ability to warrior madness on BRB like he did before and BRB didn't have a chance in hell of defeating Thor. Thor wins 6 or 7/10 more experince and more raw power.

yep.

bill also has no godforce blast.

Didnt Thor pwn Bill when he was under mind control or somthing.

Then again Bill might have been holding back

bill ravages the hell out of thor.

Thor beats BRB more times than not. Even though they're nearly equal in power and skill, Thor is more experienced and has more determination.

Thor's stood up to beings vastly more powerful than himself, including Galactus and Ego, and prevailed. Bill has the same potential, but isn't quite there yet.

Originally posted by Grimm22
Didnt Thor pwn Bill when he was under mind control or somthing.

Then again Bill might have been holding back Not sure about that, but Beta Ray has a great showing against Warrior Madness Thor. Honestly, I'd put BRB over Thor in a couple categories; enough for him to take the odds in a fight.

BRB 6/10.

Bada-bump.

BRb beat thor without storm breaker. So I'm sure he'll get the majority with it. and if he's still supercharged with the power cosmic, even more.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
BRb beat thor without storm breaker. So I'm sure he'll get the majority with it. and if he's still supercharged with the power cosmic, even more.

What? You mean that fight that ended up with Thor and Bill double KO-ing each other? Only to have Bill admit that he was only re-awakened by the surrounding environment?

Besides; neither Combatant had their Hammer in that fight, and it isn't like Beta Ray got a Thor-power-up plus storm breaker, he just got Storm breaker - a hammer with similar mystical properties.

They are about dead equal in every respect, save for the fact that Thor has shown some slightly more impressive feats with Mjolnir than Bill has with Stormbreaker.

I will agree with you on one point, though; if Bill is still cosmic, then the fight is a bit ridiculous.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Odin sent Thor and BRB to a place that will give BRB advantage because he wanted his son Thor to be humbled once again. They are even right down to the "T" but Thor is still more powerful than BRB because Thor is a hybrid god being a son of a sky-father "Odin" and a Elder God "Gaea", stated in Thor Annual #11 to Gaea, I want a son whose power is greater than Asgard itself, Thor has the power of Earth and Asgard and he knows how to use his full potential. And Thor has the ability to warrior madness on BRB like he did before and BRB didn't have a chance in hell of defeating Thor. Thor wins 6 or 7/10 more experince and more raw power.

Originally posted by Soljer
What? You mean that fight that ended up with Thor and Bill double KO-ing each other? Only to have Bill admit that he was only re-awakened by the surrounding environment?

Besides; neither Combatant had their Hammer in that fight, and it isn't like Beta Ray got a Thor-power-up plus storm breaker, he just got Storm breaker - a hammer with similar mystical properties.

They are about dead equal in every respect, save for the fact that Thor has shown some slightly more impressive feats with Mjolnir than Bill has with Stormbreaker.

I will agree with you on one point, though; if Bill is still cosmic, then the fight is a bit ridiculous.

But your forgetting, Thor doesn't need his hammer. he has all those powers with in him. BRB fightin Thor without those very same powers is very impressive.

Originally posted by Soljer
Bada-bump.
No, Badabing!

beta ray bill has already beaten thor several times on equal footing

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
But your forgetting, Thor doesn't need his hammer. he has all those powers with in him. BRB fightin Thor without those very same powers is very impressive.

Thor has been shown to be consistently FAR less powerful when lacking Mjolnir.

These are two of my fav characters in comic dome, it's kind of hard for me to decide though.

I give them 5/5

If Bill has power Cosmic I give him 8/10, and if Thor has the Odin Force and rune I give him 10/10.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
These are two of my fav characters in comic dome, it's kind of hard for me to decide though.

I give them 5/5

If Bill has power Cosmic I give him 8/10, and if Thor has the Odin Force and rune I give him 10/10.

I agree with you a lot in here. But, just a little different with these guys.

For some reason, I think BRB has Thor's number.
Back when they first met, without any hammer, magic or upgrades, he really did beat Thor pretty easily.
That has to mean something, even though I know it was a lot closer when they did it in front of Odin for the hammer.
With both having the hammers, I say that it goes for Bill either 6/10 or 7/10, although Thor is still more than capable of pulling out some fights against BRB.
These are 2 of the most respectable characters in comics.

Mamba Johamba!

Originally posted by Horrificus
I agree with you a lot in here. But, just a little different with these guys.

For some reason, I think BRB has Thor's number.
Back when they first met, without any hammer, magic or upgrades, he really did beat Thor pretty easily.

Actually, Thor had the upper hand in their first fight.



In the second fight, Thor was fighting without his godly power which was removed by Odin. In other words, he was just a stronger than average Asgardian.

Originally posted by aliveinboston
Actually, Thor had the upper hand in their first fight.



In the second fight, Thor was fighting without his godly power which was removed by Odin. In other words, he was just a stronger than average Asgardian.

I wonder if I can guess that dancing emoticon code....
is it...

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Well I can't wait to see either of them return or at least appear in a comic. Im getting tired of waiting especially after they put me in the trick bag in Civil War #4.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Well I can't wait to see either of them return or at least appear in a comic. Im getting tired of waiting especially after they put me in the trick bag in Civil War #4. so many uncertain answers. RKT states in the last issue of Ragnarok that he felt the odin force slipping away so he may not have it on his return. DB and the hammer is another thing altogether.

Originally posted by Big Sexy
so many uncertain answers. RKT states in the last issue of Ragnarok that he felt the odin force slipping away so he may not have it on his return. DB and the hammer is another thing altogether.

Who else would have it? I thought that even though at the end of Ragnarok while Thor had possession of the odinforce, that there was still the personification of the force? Who else would be left to inherit the Odin Force, and would that also mean he lost the Knowledge of the runes?

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Who else would have it? I thought that even though at the end of Ragnarok while Thor had possession of the odinforce, that there was still the personification of the force? Who else would be left to inherit the Odin Force, and would that also mean he lost the Knowledge of the runes? I have no idea. I'm stating this because I just recently re-read Ragnarok when Thor states he feels the odin force slipping at the end. That of course should make no sense. How do you take away wisdom?

Originally posted by aliveinboston
Actually, Thor had the upper hand in their first fight.



In the second fight, Thor was fighting without his godly power which was removed by Odin. In other words, he was just a stronger than average Asgardian.

Sorry man. I don't mean to argue, but you are wrong.

I have the comic with thier first fight aboard Skuttlebutt, BRB's ship.

Right from the start, Bill is frozen, Thor looks down at his frozen form.
BRB's hand smashes throw the ice and grabs Thor's whole face. Thor gets tossed.

Bill is up, and says he thinks Thor is a demon from Surtur. They fight, and in just a few panels, BRB thrashes him. Thor is knocked out. BRB picks up Mjolnir and changes into BRB.

That is how it went down. Read it.

The next fight, in front of Odin was the one that was VERY close. Mostly a draw if you ask me.

Originally posted by Horrificus
Sorry man. I don't mean to argue, but you are wrong.

I have the comic with thier first fight aboard Skuttlebutt, BRB's ship.

Right from the start, Bill is frozen, Thor looks down at his frozen form.
BRB's hand smashes throw the ice and grabs Thor's whole face. Thor gets tossed.

Bill is up, and says he thinks Thor is a demon from Surtur. They fight, and in just a few panels, BRB thrashes him. Thor is knocked out. BRB picks up Mjolnir and changes into BRB.

That is how it went down. Read it.

Beta Ray Bill ambushed Thor and was doing his best to destroy him yet wasn't even close to knocking out Thor. Thor, fighting with bare fists, acknowledged that BRB was the toughest mortal he had ever faced but he had gained the upper hand and was offering BRB a chance to surrender. He was about to cut loose saying "you leave me no choice" but at that very moment, Thor, having forgotten about his hammer, turned into his human form. Beta Ray Bill thought it was a "trick" and smashed human Thor unconcious. The blow should have killed him but it's just a comic book after all and that would have been a bad way for the Thor series to end.

http://img453.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thorv1337p187sn.jpg



The fight was actually in a place where Odin knew BRB would have an advantage. Odin stripped Thor of all his godly power and was intent on having Thor loose in order to teach him a lesson. In other words, the odds were intentionally stacked against Thor.

http://img453.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thor338165el.jpg

Originally posted by aliveinboston
Beta Ray Bill ambushed Thor and was doing his best to destroy him yet wasn't even close to knocking out Thor. Thor, fighting with bare fists, acknowledged that BRB was the toughest mortal he had ever faced but he had gained the upper hand and was offering BRB a chance to surrender. He was about to cut loose saying "you leave me no choice" but at that very moment, Thor, having forgotten about his hammer, turned into his human form. Beta Ray Bill thought it was a "trick" and smashed human Thor unconcious. The blow should have killed him but it's just a comic book after all and that would have been a bad way for the Thor series to end.

http://img453.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thorv1337p187sn.jpg



The fight was actually in a place where Odin knew BRB would have an advantage. Odin stripped Thor of all his godly power and was intent on having Thor loose in order to teach him a lesson. In other words, the odds were intentionally stacked against Thor.

http://img453.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thor338165el.jpg

After seeing your scan, I checked my book. For the first time in years. You are right.
Thanks.
Hey, where did you get this scan? Or did you scan it yourself?

Originally posted by Horrificus
After seeing your scan, I checked my book. For the first time in years. You are right.
Thanks.
Hey, where did you get this scan? Or did you scan it yourself?

Well that changes a lot.

I, Horrificus, hereby acknowledge my ignorance in the matter regarding the initial battle between Beta Ray Bill and Thor of Asgard.

While, I have stated that Bill defeated Thor in this first confrontation, it would seem I was mistaken.

Please, members of KMC, accept my humble apologies.

Thank you.

Originally posted by Horrificus
I, Horrificus, hereby acknowledge my ignorance in the matter regarding the initial battle between Beta Ray Bill and Thor of Asgard.

While, I have stated that Bill defeated Thor in this first confrontation, it would seem I was mistaken.

Please, members of KMC, accept my humble apologies.

Thank you.

It's ok cry

Now, gimme more scans of the fight! Hehe.