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Joker or Cletus Kasady before Carnage

before carnage? joker takes this easy. you should have made it joker vs. carnage. that would be fun to see

i dunno its kinda hard because Kassady has always been a sicko it was his personality that created carnage after killing his father for killing his mother for trying to kill him or was it the other way around oh well Kassady takes this

Umm, I did this thread before. We decided Joker all the way.

This is a real toss up

Look up crazy in the dictionary,
see the joker's face smiling back at you.