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Who'll win?

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lmao...

Bandon, most likely. There is a chance Anakin could win (since Bandon is so damn arrogant) but really, Bandon's only loss is to Revan, who could beat Anakin's ass with one hand while levitating Mount Everrest.

Bandon has this. Not by a lot, but he has it.

Bandon won't win with ease but he will win.

You guys really think so? Bandon killed a lot of Jedi but so did Grievous, Jango, HK-47, Atton, and many others. Bandon had less than a year of Sith training (more than Anakin but Anakin has WAY more potential) Yes Bandon lost to Revan but Revan was at maybe a third of his full power later. Anakin (arguably I suppose) defeated Count Dooku who held his own against Yoda. I've had Juhani kill Bandon in a one on one fight before.

I don't think Bandon has any sort of chance, especially considering he's as arrogant as Anakin.

That's true.

Bandon was chosen by Malak out of hundreds, probably thousands of Jedi. He probably killed at least on council member(speculation, I know). On hard diffuculty he can actually cause some problems(game play, invalid, I know).

He's good, but I got to go so I will put more later.

Oh I'm not arguing that he's bad, and yeah he was chosen out of hundreds or thousands but Anakin was the only in a thousand years (I'm pretty sure) to be allowed to be a Jedi at the age of nine. I really think those Council members like Vrook and them would beat the pants off of Bandon though.

P.S. Bandon can be pretty tough on Hard difficulty though, you're right. For some reason he's IMO way harder if he's on Korriban and can actually kill you whereas the other planets, he goes down in a couple seconds. Is it like that for you too?

Bandon can cause a few problems on hard difficulty, but I don't notice him being particularly harder on Korriban. If he wasn't, it's a miniscule amount, since I don't notice that I kill him any faster than anywhere else.

As to the fight, Bandon takes it from Anakin. Anakin never amounted to ever a fraction of his potential, and that's the lone point he has Bandon beat in.

I'd go with Revan on this one. Bandon is good, but Vader was pretty good before his bath. I mean, I think Dooku gave him the fight, but it's clear that Anakin was close to his skill. I don't think Bandon is.

revan's not in this battle, human vader

he means Emperor Revan.

Bandon has seemed a little harder to me on Korriban.

Originally posted by Human Vader
I'd go with Revan on this one. Bandon is good, but Vader was pretty good before his bath. I mean, I think Dooku gave him the fight, but it's clear that Anakin was close to his skill. I don't think Bandon is.

Vader was nowhere near that good. ANd it is not "clear" that Anakin was close to his skill. It's rather obvious that Dooku is far superior in lightsaber skill than Anakin ever was in the movies. If you don't believe me watch the Yoda/Dooku battle again. Note Dooku's method of handling someone WAY better than Anakin could ever hope to be by ROTS.

Meanwhile, Bandon hasn't lost a fight. He's from an era where being the apprentice to the highest Sith lord means you sleep with a vibroblade under your pillow and a disrupter blaster gripped in one hand while sleeping with one eye open and hiring Gand body guards. Anakin is good, don't get me wrong. I've realized that more now than I did when I first came here. But he's not THAT good.

I think it's Bandon whos not that good. True Bandon had a lot more competition, but I think hes one of the few Sith Lords Anny could take. And yes Anakin was close to Dooku, in ROTS anyways. He gave him a challenge even though Dooku was superior.

No, that's ridiculous. Dooku was not challenged. He was taunting Anakin the whole time, and he took Obi-Wan out... Obi-Wan who was able to defeat Anakin despite the terrain, in a fight that lasted something like ten to twenty minutes movie time. That's unfounded and ridiculous.

Also, what reasoning do you have that Bandon is so weak that Anakin can take him? Last time I checked Bandon wasn't blind, stupid, and armless.

lol.

Originally posted by Darth_Janus
No, that's ridiculous. Dooku was not challenged. He was taunting Anakin the whole time, and he took Obi-Wan out... Obi-Wan who was able to defeat Anakin despite the terrain, in a fight that lasted something like ten to twenty minutes movie time. That's unfounded and ridiculous.

Also, what reasoning do you have that Bandon is so weak that Anakin can take him? Last time I checked Bandon wasn't blind, stupid, and armless.

Seriously Janus, saying his opinion is ridiculous is a little harsh. Human Vader's not a newb or anything and hasn't posted any fanboyism. Dooku was straining a bit in the fight and he did not want to lose his hands. Yoda owned Dooku bad, but I also think that Anakin was competing with Dooku.

A lot of people have killed many Jedi including quite a few non-Force users and a lot of the Dark Jedi from KOTOR didn't strike me as very strong. Anakin has way more potential and according to Nick Gillard's dueling level, is as good of a duelist as Sidious and Yoda. Now I know he most likely couldn't beat either but he's still really powerful and Bandon hasn't done much of anything that was impressive (granted though, we know a lot less about him)

I dislike both these characters - however, Bandon certainly seemed to have taken his power much less for granted that Anakin did, which is a respectable quality. However, I always thought that Bandon was weak, even in comparison to, for example, Darth Maul (whom I like a great deal because he is bad@$$, but I think Anakin could perhaps defeat). This is also, maybe, a misconception on my part, though, so I could be entirely mistaken here to the point of embarrassing myself. If I am wrong, someone please bring me up to speed on the facts. My apologies, again, if this point of view is ignorant.

Originally posted by Emperor Revan
Seriously Janus, saying his opinion is ridiculous is a little harsh. Human Vader's not a newb or anything and hasn't posted any fanboyism. Dooku was straining a bit in the fight and he did not want to lose his hands. Yoda owned Dooku bad, but I also think that Anakin was competing with Dooku.

A lot of people have killed many Jedi including quite a few non-Force users and a lot of the Dark Jedi from KOTOR didn't strike me as very strong. Anakin has way more potential and according to Nick Gillard's dueling level, is as good of a duelist as Sidious and Yoda. Now I know he most likely couldn't beat either but he's still really powerful and Bandon hasn't done much of anything that was impressive (granted though, we know a lot less about him)

First off, I know he's no newb. He and I have no problems. But his reasoning in this case, I'd like some reasoning. The usual concensus around here is Bandon isn't plot crucial and is a minor boss character in game so he must suck. I'm not saying he's a god or anything, but saying he's worse than Anakin is a stretch.

Second, I'm gonna watch the ROTS battle a few more times and render ultimate Janus judgment (tm) but Yoda did NOT own Dooku bad. If you think so, I suggest you watch the battle again on slow-motion, because obviously you missed the fact that Dooku was meeting Yoda blow for blow and get this... YODA WAS WINDED FROM FIGHTING DOOKU FOR THAT SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME. Turn the sound up. You can hear him gasping. Yeah, what ownage.

And Anakin was not competing with Dooku, he was lashing out at him. And he did win, and I won't contest that Anakin didn't win. But I will contest anyone who says Anakin was on a level higher than Dooku.

Now, as for Nick Gillard... I seriously hate the guy. For one, he's as arrogant as it gets. He said in a web interview that he can beat anyone in the series with a blade. Even Ray Park, who I would hope could whup some choreographer's ass. Nick Gillard also went on to say that Anakin is a level nine, and that Obi-Wan is lesser, at a level eight. Now, that's just screwed up when you consider that Obi-Wan -destroyed- Anakin at his prime. Destroyed him. Anakin has no legs, arms, or wanker because Obi-Wan is better than him in a duel.

Your opinion on the strength of dark jedi from KOTOR comes from playing the game. Your game play experience does not reflect on SW reality. I can whup ass because I used cheat codes or suck as because I willfully started a game with all 3 stats and no items... doesn't mean a damn thing. You should know that.

Janus is right. Yoda was tired after fighting Dooku and Yoda had to grasp for air from Sidous after getting hit by lighting, fighting with lightsabers, dodging pods, relecting the lighting back, and falling a great distance.

Yes Janus and I are the best of friends, aaawwwww.

But Anakin is above everyone on the council except for Mace, Yoda, and Obi Wan. I'm sorry if you don't agree but that's how I feel. I mean, I know my name is Human Vader, but I really only like Anny in ROTS cause hes a badass as Vader, I'm not a fanboy by any means. My point being he did not get owned by Dooku, he put a decent fight by himself for a while, and even as a padawan I think he surprised Dooku a bit when he fought him, although I will admit he was owned in ATOC. Bandon hasn't done much for me to be impressed, same as Visas. True they were Sith Apprentices and killed quite a few jeedai, but they haven't done anything for me to think they would really be able to compete with anything more than an average jeedai.

Once again, I'm not saying Anakin was above Dooku, because he wasn't all I'm saying is he gave Dooku a much better fight in ROTS than you seem to want to give him credit for. Bandon has done nothing to show any power above an average Force User, and until further EU material is presented to show something else, I say Anakin takes this.

I'm gonna have to say that ROTS Anakin would win. I mean, he's had 3 years of battle experience here (almost constantly on the frontlines... and believe me, I've read every issue of Star Wars: Republic) and has fought many more opponents (in saber to saber combat) than most people realize. Bandon never really impressed me with his accomplishments. Anakin did, even though he is arrogant. And even though he is arrogant, that wouldn't really be a factor in this fight, becuase Bandon is just as cocky. Bandon may not have lost a fight, but he did not seem to fight any really tough opponents (correct me if I'm wrong, because I could be)...

Anakin sucks in TPM and ATOC.
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Anakin has done a lot over the Clone War, more then most Jedi have done in the Sith War.

I just can't see Bandon being that strong. Sidious was close to Yoda's power, and so was ROTS Anakin. Even later on as Mech Vader, Lucas says he is about 80% as powerful as Sidious so in his original form he would be much stronger and therefore, fairly close to Sidious' and Yoda's power. If Bandon is stronger than ROTS Anakin, it would mean Malak is easily more powerful than Yoda and Revan would be twice or more powerful than Yoda, neither of which I believe are even close.

IMO, stalemate

Like Janus said people don't see Bandon as strong because he is at the most a minor boss in the KOTOR games. While when you look at the facts we see that Bandon was not some arrogant young punk who was set upon a a pedistool and given the title of "The Chosen One".

True Bandon had arrogance, but not nearly to the extent of Anakin and you must look at how hard it would be to become, Malak's apprentice. Out of all those thosands of Sith Bandon cought Malak's eye and impressed him enough that the Jawless Wonder decided to make him his apprentice. That says right there that Bandon was without a doubt skilled and strong in the Force.

Also just because Bandon lost to Revan means nothing. There are very few people who would be able to even hold there own against Revan much less defeat him and these people number among the ancient Sith Lords.

Simply put...Anakin looses IMO.

Word.

If you just say Anakin sucks and that's why Bandon will win, than that is a horrible reason, and I won't really take your opinions seriously. I stand by my unbiased statement that Anakin would win, because of the reasons I stated above.

Originally posted by SnakeEyes
I'm gonna have to say that ROTS Anakin would win. I mean, he's had 3 years of battle experience here (almost constantly on the frontlines... and believe me, I've read every issue of Star Wars: Republic) and has fought many more opponents (in saber to saber combat) than most people realize. Bandon never really impressed me with his accomplishments. Anakin did, even though he is arrogant. And even though he is arrogant, that wouldn't really be a factor in this fight, becuase Bandon is just as cocky. Bandon may not have lost a fight, but he did not seem to fight any really tough opponents (correct me if I'm wrong, because I could be)...

i wholeheartedly agree with SnakeEyes. FOR ONCE.

Originally posted by SnakeEyes
If you just say Anakin sucks and that's why Bandon will win, than that is a horrible reason, and I won't really take your opinions seriously. I stand by my unbiased statement that Anakin would win, because of the reasons I stated above.

lol, yeah thats a horrible reason. And ur reasoning seems reasonable

Originally posted by SnakeEyes
If you just say Anakin sucks and that's why Bandon will win, than that is a horrible reason, and I won't really take your opinions seriously. I stand by my unbiased statement that Anakin would win, because of the reasons I stated above.

Geez when Janus posts his pics no one ever hammers him.

And if your going to ignore facts just because I dislike Anakin than you have problems. Sure I hate Anakin, but WTF does that have to do with the facts that I posted? I may hate him, but I do not let bias interfere with my posts.

Originally posted by SnakeEyes
I'm gonna have to say that ROTS Anakin would win. I mean, he's had 3 years of battle experience here (almost constantly on the frontlines... and believe me, I've read every issue of Star Wars: Republic) and has fought many more opponents (in saber to saber combat) than most people realize. Bandon never really impressed me with his accomplishments. Anakin did, even though he is arrogant. And even though he is arrogant, that wouldn't really be a factor in this fight, becuase Bandon is just as cocky. Bandon may not have lost a fight, but he did not seem to fight any really tough opponents (correct me if I'm wrong, because I could be)...

Dude as for Anakin fighting in the Clone Wars so what? We know that Bandon fought on the front lines in the Mandalorian Wars IMO the Mandalorian Wars were far more intense than the Clone Wars.

Based on this we can assume that, Bandon has battlefield experience to a high degree.

Originally posted by darthrevan89
Geez when Janus posts his pics no one ever hammers him.

And if your going to ignore facts just because I dislike Anakin than you have problems. Sure I hate Anakin, but WTF does that have to do with the facts that I posted? I may hate him, but I do not let bias interfere with my posts.

he and i werent talking about Janus's post

Well, I'm not pushing this topic. I have next to nothing to go on. This is like trying to argue that Tulak Hord would beat anyone. Bioware or Obsidian need to create background detail for the characters so this shit stops happening.

i may be an idiot for asking this, but whos is Bioware and Obsidian? forgive my lack of knowledge

Creators of KOTOR I and II.

Bioware needs to come back. Obsidian just can't compete with them.

thnx, janus

Bioware is good, but Obsidian did well on their own. You have to figure, Obsidian is a subcompany of Bioware and helped them on many projects. It's like how Free Radical (comprised mostly of the Rare team who worked on Goldeneye but not on Perfect Dark) went off and made the Timesplitters series (of which the last one is IN-fekkin-CREDIBLE.) Same genre, different approach. I like all three, really.

Originally posted by Darth_Janus
Bioware is good, but Obsidian did well on their own. You have to figure, Obsidian is a subcompany of Bioware and helped them on many projects. It's like how Free Radical (comprised mostly of the Rare team who worked on Goldeneye but not on Perfect Dark) went off and made the Timesplitters series (of which the last one is IN-fekkin-CREDIBLE.) Same genre, different approach. I like all three, really.

I loved the Timesplitter games.

Played the third one yet? It pwns Halo 2.

Originally posted by Darth_Janus
Bioware is good, but Obsidian did well on their own. You have to figure, Obsidian is a subcompany of Bioware and helped them on many projects. It's like how Free Radical (comprised mostly of the Rare team who worked on Goldeneye but not on Perfect Dark) went off and made the Timesplitters series (of which the last one is IN-fekkin-CREDIBLE.) Same genre, different approach. I like all three, really.

But you do agree that Obsidian is nowhere near Bioware. Obsidian does not have the skill to compete with Bioware. It's a known fact by comparing the two games.

Originally posted by HimoKun
But you do agree that Obsidian is nowhere near Bioware. Obsidian does not have the skill to compete with Bioware. It's a known fact by comparing the two games.

It's not a fact, and Bioware games appeal to different people. For example, I know plenty of people who were wowed by both KOTOR I and Neverwinter Nights. I initially loved both. Now? They bore me. However, I am on my ninth replay of KOTOR II.

Originally posted by Darth_Janus
Played the third one yet? It pwns Halo 2.

Actually no I have not yet payed the third one.

And NWN rocks although the storyline was a bit depressing at the end I must admit.

The SOU Expansion was great, I loved the little Kobold Bard dude (what was his name again?).

HOU Expansion was my alltime favorate since it dealt with the Drow.

KOTOR 2 however has eluded me due to the fact that it was not made to work on lapstops. Which really sucks becuase I spent $40 on it only to find out it would not work.

So here I am forced to digging through the diolouge files to discover the stroryline.

Originally posted by darthrevan89
Actually no I have not yet payed the third one.

And NWN rocks although the storyline was a bit depressing at the end I must admit.

The SOU Expansion was great, I loved the little Kobold Bard dude (what was his name again?).

HOU Expansion was my alltime favorate since it dealt with the Drow.

KOTOR 2 however has eluded me due to the fact that it was not made to work on lapstops. Which really sucks becuase I spent $40 on it only to find out it would not work.

So here I am forced to digging through the diolouge files to discover the stroryline.

- I like NWN, and I still play it... but very rarely. And Deekin is THE man.

- Buy Timesplitters: FUture Perfect. It's like 2 only eight times better.

- Drow kick ass too

- Check your laptop's specs. If that doesn't work, bring up the SW KOTOR II config and nerf the graphics.

Originally posted by Darth_Janus
Played the third one yet? It pwns Halo 2.
I wouldn't say own Halo 2. Since it is hard to beat Halo 2 but if any new games did it I would say either Resident Evil 4 or God of War. People have different likes and views so basically it owning Halo 2 is your point of view as of mine I say Halo 2 is better.

Originally posted by darthrevan89
Dude as for Anakin fighting in the Clone Wars so what? We know that Bandon fought on the front lines in the Mandalorian Wars IMO the Mandalorian Wars were far more intense than the Clone Wars.

Based on this we can assume that, Bandon has battlefield experience to a high degree.

Exactly, all we can do is assume. We have virtually no knowledge on Bandon's background, unlike Anakin, who has multiple sources that chronicle the events of his life. So, obviously I am going to pick the character I know a ton about versus a character nobody knows much about at all. But, from what I DO know, Anakin would win. I never said that because Anakin fought in the Clone Wars he was automatically good, but it was his amazing feats and accomplishments (which Bandon does not have) that made him the obvious choice for me to pick as the victor. Like Janus said, this is just like a Tulak Hord fight. Not enough information on Bandon... Nuff Said, I'm outta here.

Originally posted by SnakeEyes
Exactly, all we can do is assume. We have virtually no knowledge on Bandon's background, unlike Anakin, who has multiple sources that chronicle the events of his life. So, obviously I am going to pick the character I know a ton about versus a character nobody knows much about at all. But, from what I DO know, Anakin would win. I never said that because Anakin fought in the Clone Wars he was automatically good, but it was his amazing feats and accomplishments (which Bandon does not have) that made him the obvious choice for me to pick as the victor. Like Janus said, this is just like a Tulak Hord fight. Not enough information on Bandon... Nuff Said, I'm outta here.

damn you're good at reading my mind

Janus and Snakeyes are right. It's kinda dumb to debate when we know so little about one of the characters. Makes for a one-sided battle though quite often for the one we know little of, since we only hear the good things.

Sorry. I came across this thread and thought it was funny.

I'm sorry, but this is wack. Bandon doesn't stand a chance.

Bandon takes a slight majority.

WTF.

Bandon takes 6/10.

Anakin 9/10 or 10/10

Originally posted by Ragnosfan1998
Bandon takes 10/6. Fixed for accuracy.

Originally posted by Janus Marius
lmao...

Bandon, most likely. There is a chance Anakin could win (since Bandon is so damn arrogant) but really, Bandon's only loss is to Revan, who could beat Anakin's ass with one hand while levitating Mount Everrest.

Not to insult the real thing, but methinks this guy had mental issues.

Anakin kills Bandon in 1slash. Seriously, this is a joke.

Originally posted by Janus Marius
lmao...

Bandon, most likely. There is a chance Anakin could win (since Bandon is so damn arrogant) but really, Bandon's only loss is to Revan, who could beat Anakin's ass with one hand while levitating Mount Everrest.

Yeah, the only reason Anakin would win is because Bandon is so damn arrogant.

What's with all the necroing, Gerald?

Originally posted by Janus Marius
lmao...

Bandon, most likely. There is a chance Anakin could win (since Bandon is so damn arrogant) but really, Bandon's only loss is to Revan, who could beat Anakin's ass with one hand while levitating Mount Everrest.

Originally posted by slayne
What's with all the necroing, Gerald?

Leave my sex life out of this.

Lmao.

At least give Bandon Darth Bane

Originally posted by slayne
What's with all the necroing, Gerald?
Someone got triggered by Lost getting triggered