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Pretty close but Kun and company take it but I might be wrong.

Well lets see it goes like this...and good thread by the way if slightly imbalenced IMO.

Revan and Kun are gonna be concentriating on each other and ignoring everything else. Malak and Sidious will battle for while untill Malak takes him. Malak then teams up with Bandon and together they wipe JA Luke off the map. Then Bandon and Malak join up with, Revan to take out Kun.

luke would take out bandon faster than malak kills sidious so luke helps sids with malak but i still think that malak can take them but i don't no

Originally posted by Luke Is Better
luke would take out bandon faster than malak kills sidious so luke helps sids with malak but i still think that malak can take them but i don't no

Dude Malak makes Sidious look like an old man on crack and he would waste him easily. Bandon by himself might be able to take out JA Luke and with Malak's help its overkill. Revan himself could possibly waste Sidious and JA Luke.

Originally posted by darthrevan89
Dude Malak makes Sidious look like an old man on crack and he would waste him easily. Bandon by himself might be able to take out JA Luke and with Malak's help its overkill. Revan himself could possibly waste Sidious and JA Luke.

No EU Bias there.

JA Luke isn't a slouch, he'd cause problems for Bandon, so if Malak can finish up Sidious, they should have it in the bag.

But who's to assume Revan and Kun stall each other?

I believe Malak and Sids would stalemate each other in power. I believe the battle lies on Bandon and JA Luke.

Originally posted by Illustrious
No EU Bias there.

What's Sidious gonna throw at Malak? Force lightning? Maybe use his crappy lightsaber skills? Malak is often underestimated simply because most people despise him. The major threat here is Kun who by himself in sheer power outranks Revan if by one notch. Also JA Luke was nothing compaired to what NJO made him into. I mean this was hardly 10 years after ROTJ and Bandon deserves a lot more credit than people give him. I mean out of all those Sith under Malak, Bandon impressed him enough that Malak decided to make him his apprentice and that says something.

"Malak is often underestimated because people despise him..."

Lol. So is Sidious. You, by your own admission, hate him. Hence the "crappy lightsaber skills" remark.

Revan has a nice long fight with exar
malak owns sidious with superior knowledge and skills/youth
bandon gets owned

Revan continues to fight exar the two being about equal with revan having a miniscule edge
malak kicks the crap out of JA luke

Exar despite being amazingly awesome gets doubleteamed.

Where does Revan having this "miniscule edge" over Exar come from?

I have to say, I've never ONCE heard anything to prove that Revan is superior to Exar, where does these people that claim "Exar is 95% as powerful as Revan" or "Revan having a miniscule edge" get that kind of knowledge?

Is there some new Supershadow for Revan fans only now?

I stated that one time because some guy wouldnt believe me that he was better than Revan, but it still made the thread go the same way as if Exar had been three times stronger than Revan so I thought it didn't matter.

Originally posted by darthrevan89
What's Sidious gonna throw at Malak? Force lightning? Maybe use his crappy lightsaber skills? Malak is often underestimated simply because most people despise him. The major threat here is Kun who by himself in sheer power outranks Revan if by one notch. Also JA Luke was nothing compaired to what NJO made him into. I mean this was hardly 10 years after ROTJ and Bandon deserves a lot more credit than people give him. I mean out of all those Sith under Malak, Bandon impressed him enough that Malak decided to make him his apprentice and that says something.

Your underestimating Sidious. Remember that Sidious is close to Yoda who could beat Malak. I doubt that I underestimate Malak.

JA Luke is very powerful. He is described as being able to make the Massassi Temple's by himself with just his force powers. Thats shows a lot of pure power. He's also already beaten himself, Vader, Joruus, Mara, a lot of Cult of Ragnos guys(more than Jaden probably), sparred with Kyle, fought Exar Kun spirit, and a lot of Nightsisters. He is probably able to beat Bandon by now.

Luke takes Bandon.

Exar takes Revan.

Malak takes Sidious maybe.

Exar and Luke take Malak if needed.

Exar will never take Revan in a short fight... It would take a very long time and like always I can not predict the winner of the fight, it would be a very hard fight with a very small chance for either one of them to win. Exar is more powerful but Revan is the better fighter. If one wins its because of luck or because they are smarter.

Malak would take Sidious, Sidious could stack up against Yoda. But Yoda is a different fighter then Malak. Malak would not let Sidious do what he did, Yoda could have stopped it but didn't because thats not how he uses the force. Malak would have blown up those pods and he would have thrown others at him. Malak would have used his surroundings as well if it was necessary. He would use the force for offensive purposes more so then Yoda did. He would use all of that to overwelm Sidious.

Luke vs Bandon, now I think Bandon is a lot more powerful then most people give him credit for, but could he take Luke? I think he has a nice chance but i'm not sure not that it matters because Malak would have killed Sidious before Luke has taken Bandon or Vice Versa.

All Sith win

What do you mean, "Yoda does not use the Force like that", Fishy?

What's JA? Is that Jedi Academy?

Exar's Team takes it

Originally posted by Darth Somebody
What do you mean, "Yoda does not use the Force like that", Fishy?

As in Yoda doesn't not make very many offensive attacks at Sidious.

When Sidious was throwing pods at him, Yoda was dodging them, not throwing them back at Sidious while bombarding him with lightning, etc.

IMO this is a very close fight. Revan vs. Exar would take a while, and so would Malak vs. Sidious. That leaves Luke vs. Bandon. Luke has already defeated Vader, the reborn emperor, and sorta fought with Kun's spirit. He even had a holocron of Kun's old master, Vodo Siosk Baas. IMO it wouldn't take long for him to beat Bandon, he would help Sidious beat Malak, and then they would finish off Revan. Still, this fight is very close but I would go with Exar's team.

You forgot that he killed a clone of himself and a clone of a powerful ancient Jedi Master, but it brings about the same point so whatever.

Originally posted by Illustrious
As in Yoda doesn't not make very many offensive attacks at Sidious.

When Sidious was throwing pods at him, Yoda was dodging them, not throwing them back at Sidious while bombarding him with lightning, etc.

Oh. Well, I don't see why he couldn't. I thought Fishy was implying that Yoda's morals prevented him from doing so. Then I'd have to interfere. Yoda went into that fight looking to kill - not capture - Sidious. But Sidious had the higher ground and gravity on his side. Yoda is tough. But there's no chance in hell he could summon the strength to chuck them all back.

Edit: No, Illustrious. I believe you're mistaken. This is the entire quote that I just read: "Yoda could have stopped it but didn't because thats not how he uses the force." I believe Fishy is implying something with morals. But like I said, we all know that's not true. Yoda was looking to kill Sidious. Not to toy with him or have an honorable fight. If he had a chance, he would kill him - the same with Sidious.

Yoda: Destroy the Sith we must!

Picking on Yoda I see, hmm...

Yoda went into the fight looking to kill but he wasn't blood thirsty. Fishy's right Jedi don't use the force offensively. Not only is it against their morals its against the Jedi Code. Its against the Order, the Order that Yoda was head of. How would it look if he went against the code.

Apex. Use your damn noggin. Look up to Revan's post and recall that quote. Yoda. Was. Looking. To. Kill. Sidious. Sidious was looking to LIVE and rule his empire, not dancing around with a being who was his very equal in the Force.

But Yoda wasn't going to start throwing force lightning around to win. Use your damn noggin.

How naive can someone get? I said that to show he was trying to kill Sidious not trying to say he was weak. He clearly wanted to kill Sidious and I think under normal circumstances he would. Did you even read the previous posts??

Originally posted by Emperor Revan
How naive can someone get? I said that to show he was trying to kill Sidious not trying to say he was weak. He clearly wanted to kill Sidious and I think under normal circumstances he would. Did you even read the previous posts??

I was responding to the post were Somebody says he doesn't see why Yoda wouldn't throw force lightning.

Then why didn't you mention anything like that? And if you're gonna respond to an earlier post, use the quote button.

Originally posted by Darth Somebody
Oh. Well, I don't see why he couldn't. I thought Fishy was implying that Yoda's morals prevented him from doing so. Then I'd have to interfere. Yoda went into that fight looking to kill - not capture - Sidious. But Sidious had the higher ground and gravity on his side. Yoda is tough. But there's no chance in hell he could summon the strength to chuck them all back.

Edit: No, Illustrious. I believe you're mistaken. This is the entire quote that I just read: "Yoda could have stopped it but didn't because thats not how he uses the force." I believe Fishy is implying something with morals. But like I said, we all know that's not true. Yoda was looking to kill Sidious. Not to toy with him or have an honorable fight. If he had a chance, he would kill him - the same with Sidious.

Oh yeah if Yoda had the chance he would have killed Sidious, but Yoda would never rely on his emotions or the Dark Side to gain victory, he is still bound to rules and restrictions. Would he not have cared would he have said for once that the Dark Side could have been worth it then Sidious would have been toast. Yoda simply does not use the force for offensive purposes. I mean you saw the way he blocked Sidious his lightning, that takes an shit load of power imagine if he shot lightning of his own. But Yoda feared attacks like that and where they came from. He just doesn't use the force to its full potential. Most Jedi don't.

Originally posted by Fishy
Oh yeah if Yoda had the chance he would have killed Sidious, but Yoda would never rely on his emotions or the Dark Side to gain victory, he is still bound to rules and restrictions. Would he not have cared would he have said for once that the Dark Side could have been worth it then Sidious would have been toast. Yoda simply does not use the force for offensive purposes. I mean you saw the way he blocked Sidious his lightning, that takes an shit load of power imagine if he shot lightning of his own. But Yoda feared attacks like that and where they came from. He just doesn't use the force to its full potential. Most Jedi don't.

That's exactly the point. If he used Dark Side powers to defeat a Sith Lord, what would distinguish him from the Sith itself?

Yoda was giving it everything he had in that fight, but he was caught off guard, and when push came to shove, was too arrogant to change his dogmatic view. Hence why he couldn't kill the Emperor.

Originally posted by Illustrious
That's exactly the point. If he used Dark Side powers to defeat a Sith Lord, what would distinguish him from the Sith itself?

Yoda was giving it everything he had in that fight, but he was caught off guard, and when push came to shove, was too arrogant to change his dogmatic view. Hence why he couldn't kill the Emperor.

Exactly, making the fight between Yoda and Sidious worthless as an example, that Sidious does not mean he can defeat a Dark Side force user that comes close to the power Yoda had.

well I think that Revan and Exar would fight for a very long time, personally I think Exar would take this, but it would be very long and neither would kill the other before somebody else killed their opponent and came to help. So both Exar and Revan are out of the fight.

Then you get Sids vs Malak, I think that Malak can take this, but also, I think that most people here underestimate Sids, yes he would loose, but he would put up a decent fight, probably on par, maybe a bit better than Kavar so it would take Malak a few minutes to defeat him.

For JA Luke vs Bandon, I suggest tha you go re-read Janus' post on the topic, he clearly shows that Luke has a fair bit of power and would kill Bandon, before Malak could kill Sids.

So then you get Luke and Sids vs Malak, Malak looses here, maybe killing one off, but he still looses.

Finally you get Exar and someone else on his team vs Revan. Revan may be good, but he would have trouble with Exar alone, Exar and another person, either Luke or Sids would be too much for him and he would die.

So Exar's team wins

Exactly what I said.