Our benevolent God is simply...awesome

since he created everything

he gave us:

cancer
AIDS
birth defects
earthquakes
tsunamis
Ebola Virus
diabetes
polio
poisons
etc
etc
etc

and so many other goodies

God sure is wonderful, I have complete FAITH in him

I LOVE your sarcasm 😛

Actually, assuming that God is real(which I believe he is) and the bible is true then WE created all this bad stuff by the sin that came into the world from OUR decision.

so we CREATED cancer and ebola virus and earthquakes?

are you kidding me?

Oh! no, Don't get me started.

Originally posted by masterbruce
so we CREATED cancer and ebola virus and earthquakes?

are you kidding me?

It's called sin.

its called BULLSHIT...no offense, but that is what I think

Originally posted by masterbruce
its called BULLSHIT...no offense, but that is what I think

Ever read the bible?

to be honest, no...but I have read Grimm's Fairy Tales

Originally posted by Echuu
Ever read the bible?

Hi Echuu

Let's say you were on a life raft and there was two other people with you and no food or water. One of the other people say to you, "if we kill the third person, we will have enough food to survive". What would you do. Now you know if you say no, the other two will kill and eat you. So, what do you do, die of kill (sin).

Originally posted by masterbruce
to be honest, no...but I have read Grimm's Fairy Tales

Well I suggest to take a look at it before screaming about how God 'created' everything bad in the world. Of course many discredit it as a source but I think it would be nice because then you could get another viewpoint on things.
Unless of course you are closed minded.

i'm not a closeminded person

but i admit i am closeminded in regards to religion, how is anything the bible has written in it going to convince me otherwise

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Hi Echuu

Let's say you were on a life raft and there was two other people with you and no food or water. One of the other people say to you, "if we kill the third person, we will have enough food to survive". What would you do. Now you know if you say no, the other two will kill and eat you. So, what do you do, die of kill (sin).

Hi

I would sacrifice myself so that they both can survive knowing that I will go to a better place.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Hi Echuu

Let's say you were on a life raft and there was two other people with you and no food or water. One of the other people say to you, "if we kill the third person, we will have enough food to survive". What would you do. Now you know if you say no, the other two will kill and eat you. So, what do you do, die of kill (sin).

OK it seems that I've lost you. My point is life is not back and white it is a lot of grey. All the bad things in the world are good in their own way.

Originally posted by Echuu
Hi

I would sacrifice myself so that they both can survive knowing that I will go to a better place.

I don't believe you, you will squirm under the knife and do anything to survive. God made you that way.

Originally posted by masterbruce
i'm not a closeminded person

but i admit i am closeminded in regards to religion, how is anything the bible has written in it going to convince me otherwise

If you read it you will get a different perspective on things. Now whether you wish to accept it is your choice alone, not mine or anyones.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I don't believe you, you will squirm under the knife and do anything to survive. God made you that way.

well to be fair, you have to take his word

you can't pose a question with choices and then discredit the answer because the choice is not to your liking

Originally posted by Echuu
If you read it you will get a different perspective on things. Now whether you wish to accept it is your choice alone, not mine or anyones.

"You can learn from books" Ringo Starr

echuu, have you read the koran, tora, or various other religious texts before you made your mind up that christianity is for you?

Originally posted by masterbruce
well to be fair, you have to take his word

you can't pose a question with choices and then discredit the answer because the choice is not to your liking

It is a chose that no one will make, you know, that word you used BULLSHIT. If he had given me more of a real answer then that would have been good. But remember life is not fair, and there is no good or evil unto it's self.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I don't believe you, you will squirm under the knife and do anything to survive. God made you that way.

There are quick and painless deaths too though. If I am starving to death then the other two guys bashing my head in would be a relief to help me be free of my suffering and be united with Christ.
As for squirming under the knife...my strength would have to come from God then.