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This superhero must be under herald level and possess great intelligence and power and must not have too many weaknesses.

Characters I would eliminate: Superman (weakness to kryptonite and magic), Gladiator (powers too dependent on fluctuating confidence levels), Shazam (alterego iis a vulnerable little boy), batman (only a human in power and durability), Green Lantern (weakness to yellow light and finite power source)

so I guess I'm kinda left with Thor, except I'm not too sure about his intelligence.

Spiderman and Batman

Batman is way too weak to be considered the perfect superhero

and spiderman can't fly, which I think the perfect superhero must be able to do

I think Superman, Captain Marvel, Thor, Wonder Woman, and Hercules (classic, non-alcoholic) are some examples of perfect superheroes.

Originally posted by masterbruce
Batman is way too weak to be considered the perfect superhero

and spiderman can't fly, which I think the perfect superhero must be able to do

He swings, very high, witch is like flying.

Originally posted by masterbruce
Green Lantern (weakness to yellow light and finite power source) They don't have this weakness anymore . . .

If you want to know the truth it isn't the powers that make the perfect hero it's something else. I know what you meant which powers make a perfect one but no matter what if you use them for good that makes them the perfect power.
I would have to people who I consider the perfect heros:
The first is Batman. A man without superpowers yet he fights for the greater good simply because he doesn't want someone else to go through whay he had to. He is in danger of being killed everytime he goes out yet he still does.
Then I would also say the Thing. His power is to be a large piece of stone. Plus unlike other people Grim can not fit in the world he never will. He will always look different then him. Thor Iron Man Superman after their finished they could walk the streets and fit in. Even the Hulk turns back into Banner. Thing isn't even a mutant he belongs in no cicle he will always be anoutsider. That is normally the recipe for a villian yet he chooses to be a good guy.
Those are Perfect Heros they do it simply because it is the right thing even though they all the reasons not to.

No such thing as a perfect hero because it is the flaws that make people like the heroes, and a "perfect" hero wouldn't sell or exist, because nothing is perfect.

newjack you made very good points

I would say Spider-man is a hero most people can relate to because he is an imperfect hero. He (like everyone else) fails now and again, then he beats himself up about it. He is one of the nice guys who suffers even though he doesnt deserve it.............

sentry

Originally posted by armandovalles
I think Superman, Captain Marvel, Thor, Wonder Woman, and Hercules (classic, non-alcoholic) are some examples of perfect superheroes.

GL's yellow weakness has been gone for years.

Originally posted by Pointinel
sentry

Way too many flaws; not exactly sane, has to worry about the Void while keeping his powers, etc...

I would personally say Silver Surfer, but don't hold me to that.

Majestic is one. Has no easily exploitable weaknesses like Superman, has had millenia of battle experience, is a little haughty but it's never a hindrance in battle.

Black Bolt comes to mind. Karnak once looked at him and saw that he had no flaws. It kinda creeped him out, too, since he though EVERYTHING had a flaw/weakness.

I agree with people who say Thor, too.

Of course, at least two, and maybe all three of the people I just mentioned, are all at Herald level, so maybe that disqualifies them.

If there is such thing as a perfect hero with no weaknesses, they've probably already been and gone. Nobody likes perfection.

Superman was perfect in many ways, but because he was the original superhero, he gets success.

The likes of Spiderman and Batman needed something "else" to make them appealing - flaws.

Sersi's a good hero. She has class 20 strength as an eternal which she can amplify both through psionic means and through cosmic means. She can fly at mach speeds, she has enhanced reflexes, she can draw on cosmic energy, she has telekinesis, she has limited telepathic abilities and she is a high level matter manipulator. Plus as an eternal she is virtually immortal and it would take the disintegration of a vast amount of her bodies molecules for her to die.

the perfect powerless hero is Batman by far

perfect flying Superhero proberly Superman or Martain Manhunter cuz they got alot of range of powers and abilities and experience.

perfect bug based hero Spiderman...he's considered the every day hero

perfect flying hero Hawk...he got a lot a experience and skill (leads or use to lead JSA

batman's mentality in thor's body would be the ultimate hero

The Best hero ever I would have to say is the weird because he did take down the entire Justice League singlehandedly , he's smart, has mad fighting skills, and could kick anybodies ass

No such thing as a perfect hero

Surfer in my definition is the closest.

I hate how you people always talk about powers, when trying to define a character's worth. It's all about the personality, the background and growth, people.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
I hate how you people always talk about powers, when trying to define a character's worth. It's all about the personality, the background and growth, people. Surfer has personality in spades... shut up!

Originally posted by bigbran
Surfer has personality in spades... shut up!

He does. He's one of my favorites.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
He does. He's one of my favorites. Yes, but sometimes he is... ahh, I'm just thinking of the Stan Lee meets Surfer issue.

Yes, Surfer has personality.

i really dont think we need to take such existential views of this....i dont think it was meant to be so literally about "perfect" but my guy would definatley be hyperion(retconned-to-eternal) his only weaknes is someone more powerful than he is...of which there are very few

Darwin seriously check out the Respect thread

Deadpool.

yes

Originally posted by Scoobless
Deadpool.

yes he's not perfect in his noggin

Yeah he is, Cable cured his insanity... he's just regular crazy now (not torturing old women anymore)

Originally posted by Scoobless
he's just regular crazy now last time i checked...regular crazy is still crazy

edit: nice sig

Originally posted by Newjak
If you want to know the truth it isn't the powers that make the perfect hero it's something else. I know what you meant which powers make a perfect one but no matter what if you use them for good that makes them the perfect power.
I would have to people who I consider the perfect heros:
The first is Batman. A man without superpowers yet he fights for the greater good simply because he doesn't want someone else to go through whay he had to. He is in danger of being killed everytime he goes out yet he still does.
Then I would also say the Thing. His power is to be a large piece of stone. Plus unlike other people Grim can not fit in the world he never will. He will always look different then him. Thor Iron Man Superman after their finished they could walk the streets and fit in. Even the Hulk turns back into Banner. Thing isn't even a mutant he belongs in no cicle he will always be anoutsider. That is normally the recipe for a villian yet he chooses to be a good guy.
Those are Perfect Heros they do it simply because it is the right thing even though they all the reasons not to.

You smacked it.

Ion.

Originally posted by Alfheim
You smacked it.

Yeah Ion really is the perfect hero IMO, (he was chosen as the torch bearer for a reason).

Originally posted by masterbruce
Characters I would eliminate: Superman (weakness to kryptonite) FYI, not ALL versions of Superman have that weakness anymore.

I would say the closest is Surfer - he has it all - power, nobility, smarts (when written right), morals, and most importantly he doesn't possess any particularly debilitating weaknesses. Even his appearance speaks to something that's pure and decent

It seems most people are interpreting "perfect superhero" a bit literally, whereas I'm looking at it not just from a superhero POV but also from a character POV.

That being the case, I go with Spider-Man. He's got power: enough to do cool things but not so much that he's godlike and hard to relate to. He has a cool costume (the iron spider one has grown on me; I like the subtle ninja references). And he's interesting (and yes, flawed) as a person.

I would also go with Hulk. He's tremendously powerful but it's basically one-dimensional, simple, thus hardly all-powerful. He doesn't wear silly tights/spandex; what you see is what you get. He's a tragic figure (people like tragic figures). And he is enormously cathartic: who hasn't, at one time or another, gotten so angry and wished they could just wreck havoc on the injustices of the world?

For what it's worth: I don't see Surfer as a "perfect superhero" (as I'm using the term) because, basically, he is a very cerebral/philosophical character; as someone once wrote, SS is something of an acquired taste. He's "too noble," I think (too different?), to ever have the widespread appeal of a Batman, Spider-Man or Superman.

Wonder Woman,Maxima, Sersi, Adam Worlock, are all heroes who should not be messed with in many areas.

Originally posted by Mindship
It seems most people are interpreting "perfect superhero" a bit literally, whereas I'm looking at it not just from a superhero POV but also from a character POV.

That being the case, I go with Spider-Man. He's got power: enough to do cool things but not so much that he's godlike and hard to relate to. He has a cool costume (the iron spider one has grown on me; I like the subtle ninja references). And he's interesting (and yes, flawed) as a person.

I would also go with Hulk. He's tremendously powerful but it's basically one-dimensional, simple, thus hardly all-powerful. He doesn't wear silly tights/spandex; what you see is what you get. He's a tragic figure (people like tragic figures). And he is enormously cathartic: who hasn't, at one time or another, gotten so angry and wished they could just wreck havoc on the injustices of the world?

For what it's worth: I don't see Surfer as a "perfect superhero" (as I'm using the term) because, basically, he is a very cerebral/philosophical character; as someone once wrote, SS is something of an acquired taste. He's "too noble," I think (too different?), to ever have the widespread appeal of a Batman, Spider-Man or Superman.

Good to see good insight.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master


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Originally posted by Howard_Jones
Good to see good insight.
Thnx

Green Lanter and Thor

Beta ray Bill

Superman, Batman, Spiderman, Wonder Woman.

Superman: Boy Scout, Aweswome powers, inpiration.

Batman: Has no powers. Inspiration.

Spiderman: Something alot of people can relate to.

Wonder Woman: Perfect Female Superhero!