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Clear proof the bomb detonated UNDERNEATH the carriage and NOT WITHIN the carriage.

A photo taken from inside the train carriage from the 7/7 London bombings...

http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/4702/insidetrainphoto4sc.jpg

1. If the blast was on top of the floor, then scorch marks would have been evident on floor covering. All that's there is blood, glass, and other debris, but no burn marks.

2. Concentrate on the hole, and the metal stucture going across it. Evidence shows that the structure has been bent and twisted to the side. That suggests that there was something on top of it to bore the brunt of the blast (the floor), and the manner in which it was twisted, the device was placed between the side of the carriage and the metal structure.

3. If the device was placed on the floor, then the metal structure would have been bent towards the floor, and NOT to the side as it evidently is in the picture.

4. As you can see, the floor is mainly bent towards the ground. That's because the bottom skin of the floor and also the insulation has been removed by the blast, weakening the top layer.

5. At the top left and the top center of the picture, you can see a vertical strut which is brown in colour. That is part of the framework of the train. Again, if the device was close to and had a direct blast path towards that structure, then that would have also been damaged and twisted. The sides of the train are only aluminium sheeting, and are even known to blow off and split from a secondary blast, so its not surprising that they are not there.

6. The other furniture in the carriage has been burnt, as a result of the blast. That is understandable. What is also evident is the fact of the actual structure of it is still intact. If the device (estimated 10 lbs) was placed so close and had a direct blast path, then it would have been completely demolished.

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THE SYMBOLISM

Then how about the symbol the 7/7 bobmings and the 22/7 bobmings make when linked together on a street map...

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/5711/trianglesmall8tm.jpg
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/4708/mappysmall4gw.jpg

The pyramid symbol is THE Illuminati/Masonic symbol and can be found on the graves of many Illuminati assasinations such as Diana Princess of Wales and also in the street plan of the Grassy Knowl where President Kennedy was assasinated. EVERYTHING is done in a precise ritualistic fashion to these guys, they are utterly obsessed with symbolism and ritualism. For example, google the history of the Pont Delma tunnel in Paris where Diana princess of Wales was assasinated in and you will quickly learn it is a former ancient sacrificial site to none other than the moon goddess Diana!!!

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CHANGING THE LIES TO FIT THE FACTS

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/3200/aswat3aq.jpg


* First the attacks in London were the work of an Al-Qaeda 'mastermind' - alleged to be Haroon Rashid Aswat according to official sources.

* Then Aswat is exposed as a long-time asset of British Intelligence.

* Now an 'investigation' conducted with the help of British Intelligence finds that there was no mastermind.

Just a coincidence, nothing to worry about.

SOURCE - http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/crime/article305547.ece !!!!!!!

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And finaly theres the fact that several MI5 agents exposed how the IRA bombings in the UK during the 1980's were infact not the working of the IRA but MI5. Not to mention the undeniable fact that most major acts of terroism have always eventualy been exposed as being perpurtrated by the government to advance the agenda of the day. Government sponsored terrorism is a ****ing fact my friends.

Lol I was starting to wonder when Deano would post something like this.

Kid, seriously, stop doing that. If you're going to post, post on topic.


And my on topic post is:

That's some fairly convincing evidence in all actuallity.

Originally posted by KidRock
Lol I was starting to wonder when Deano would post something like this.

enjoy

Originally posted by Deano
enjoy

I did enjoy it. I always love reading a good fiction story.

Originally posted by KidRock
I did enjoy it. I always love reading a good fiction story.

wheres the fiction

Originally posted by Deano
wheres the fiction

Like you always say: Read the first post.

Scotland Yard police force were conducting a training excercise on the 7/7/2005 simulating a multiple bomb detonation in the very tunnel the bombs detonated in!

and

Israeli intelligence, Mossad, warned multiple officials to stay away from the London tube during the morning!

Originally posted by KidRock
Like you always say: Read the first post.

if the truth scares you then you should cease entering my threads

http://conspiracycentral.net:6969/torrent.html? info_hash=6e72146beacedbf7310c9737b129c02392c22211


a compilation of all the current evidence that supports the conspiracy of 7/7 being an inside job just like every other terroist act like it eventualy turns out to be an inside job. When will people learn?

Ohhh just what we Fu¢king, another Bloody Consipiracy.

Originally posted by Acherontia
Ohhh just what we Fu¢king, another Bloody Consipiracy.

it is what you need, believe me

*sigh* I hope this ends in those who keep attacking each other getting F*cking banned.

im not attacking, im defending

I know.

glad we're on the same wavelenght

Originally posted by Deano
it is what you need, believe me

No, i don't need more idiots telling me the "REAL" facts. Thoes idiots think they are smarter then everybody and re-analazying what the fu¢king experts already concluded.

Thoes



just want to get some attention.

I love the way that these manical terrorists did the July 14th attacks in the middle of the day
And the way the terrorist leave clue too their identities
Seems like what I thought all along

Unless you meant That i needed them to vent some anger on them.

In which case i do.

Originally posted by Acherontia
No, i don't need more idiots telling me the "REAL" facts. Thoes idiots think they are smarter then everybody and re-analazying what the fu¢king experts already concluded.

Thoes



just want to get some attention.

experts

have you read the thread at all...im clearly pointing out other possible scenerios..no need to get angry because someone challanges the official story

TAPT explosive blows up without flames.
http://www/newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn6925
-New Scientist article about TATP Explosive

"The explosives claimed to of been used in the bombings is TATP which does not burn when it detonates. Instead, its molecules simply fall apart. A video showing TATP being detonated showed that it can do so without producing any flame whatsoever. The reason is, TAPT dosen't use oxygen, and hence dosen't combust like "ordinary" explosives."
- Jenny Hogan New Scientist January 2005 (Article about TATP

SO why the hell do eyewitnesess say they saw an almighty flash and fireball and why were so many victoms trated for serious burns injuries if the bombs contained TAPT?

TAPT is extremly unstable explosive in large quantities. Richard Reied the "Shoe Bomber" used TAPT to detonate PETN. He diden't use TAPT on its own becuase its extremly unstable in large quantities.

How could 40lbs of TATP in 4 rucksacks get hauled around London without going off?

Dogbert was worried that you guys would get out of hand, so...

Please don't bash Deano, no matter how nuts he is.

If you think he is wrong, argue your point, don't resort to '1'm l337 sk337 n00b!!!!111 zOMG u r l@m3!!!!111oneoneoneeleven111!' because it proves- or disproves- nothing.

Originally posted by Captain REX
Dogbert was worried that you guys would get out of hand, so...

Please don't bash Deano, no matter how nuts he is.

If you think he is wrong, argue your point, don't resort to '1'm l337 sk337 n00b!!!!111 zOMG u r l@m3!!!!111oneoneoneeleven111!' because it proves- or disproves- nothing.

that bought a tear to my eye

lol

quickly ask why Scotland Yard arn't releasing any CCTV footage of any of the bombs, just like the FBI withholding all footage of the WTC/Pentagon attacks?
make em give an answer
A Kingstar van is clearly shown passing by the bus that got bombed the moment it detonated and what do Kingstar do?

Controlled Demolition I kid you not!

The number 30 bus, which got bombed, was the ONLY bus that day that got re-routed and this compliments the fact that all the locations the bombs detonated at are occult parts of London with a history of occultism and ritual.

The CCTV cameras on the bus get serviced atleast 2 or 3 times a week. For security reasons, the same few people always come to the depot to carry out the work, the Saturday before, the person who came was not the regular contractor!

and wait

the guy spent more than 20 hours over the weekend, 20 hours to see if the CCTV is working!!"

Amy Teibel, Associated Press Writes, who wrote on the 7th of July, the following: "British police told the Israeli Embassy in London MINUTES BEFORE Thursday's explosions that they had recieved warnings of possible terror attacks in the city, a senior Israeli official said. The official spoke on conditions of anonymity because of the nature of his position."

As a result of this warning Netonyahu stayed in his hotel room and diden't attend the economic conference in The Great Western Hotel at Liverpool Street. Why was Amy's article hushed up after the 7th July?

Goddamn, he could be right ....or mabye YOUR a agent of the goverment sent to cause panic, i'm on to you deano

"Scotland Yard police force were conducting a training excercise on the 7/7/2005 simulating a multiple bomb detonation in the very tunnel the bombs detonated in!"

Lie. Pathetic.

And the first post is feeble as well- you cannot make ANY useful forensic conclusions out of a single-perspective (and not hugely detailed) photo.

The statements listed under the photo... who made them? Someone with a Masters of Forensic Science on the scene of the incident viewing the wreckage from multiple angles, or someone with too much time on their hands who decided to stare at a photo for a long time.

It contains the fallacy of suggestibility. Take for instance:

"Again, if the device was close to and had a direct blast path towards that structure, then that would have also been damaged and twisted."

And people are meant to read that and naturally think "Oh yeah, that's right!"

IS it? What the hell do any of us know? This kind of science is WAY more complicated than the layman might think, and any one of a hundred factors can change that conclusion.

On top of which, I look at that picture- crappy piece of evidence that it is- and I think "No... not necessarily..." to that point.

On top of which, that photo looks, to my mind, absolutely nothing like what it would look like if the bomb had been underneath the train.

On top of which, the masive amount of evidence showing that it was performed by a suicide bomber who, obviously, would have been on the train.

In fact, none of it look suspicious unless you want to believe it is.

"Not to mention the undeniable fact that most major acts of terroism have always eventualy been exposed as being perpurtrated by the government to advance the agenda of the day."

See, this kind of hyperbole massively detacts from the crdibility of anything Deano says- such a thing is in fact HIGHLY debatable. Some terrorist acts over tiome have been known to have been faked by the apparent targets. Most have no such provable connection at all.

Could you get anymore disrespectful than to pretty much rubbish a terrible event?

What a disgrace.

-AC

it was a favour for novusordo, he set it out and i made the thread for him

lets see...the floor is bent down the way...enough said

as for stating that the floor took the brunt of the blast...not true

take into consideration this...there was an incident of a man in palestine who had his arms around a suicide bomder when the device went off...the suicide bomber was killed...but the man holding him survived pretty much unscathed

this happens because certain explosives expand slowly initially before increasing in speed...its the same concept when someone tries to gas themselves in their oven but blow their house up...the centre of the explosion has little damage which then inceases further out

the part under the floor you mention...part of the chassis of the carriage by the looks of it...blown down the way then bent sideways as the train (which was moving at the time) continued down the track

as for the IRA point...it was actually loyalist attacks that were aided by m15...not the other way around...

Sorry but this is so offensive, think of the people who died in this, their families and all the people who were affected by this...to say it was a pre-meditated by the government is disgusting..whatever 'evidence' you may have...

deano's good at making a joke of human tragedy.

I'm not even one to value mass human life but this proves my point to no end.

The fact that you have lives of the apparant boredom that you need to seek conspiracy in everything, says it all.

-AC

Deano, your information is outdated. I am sorry.

Read Harry Potter 6 chapter 1 for some clues.

Main question is: Did Voldemort put Imperius curse on Bush?

Originally posted by PVS
deano's good at making a joke of human tragedy.

i dont see no joke at all

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I'm not even one to value mass human life but this proves my point to no end.

The fact that you have lives of the apparant boredom that you need to seek conspiracy in everything, says it all.

-AC

in everything?
whats everything?

Originally posted by Fianna
Sorry but this is so offensive, think of the people who died in this, their families and all the people who were affected by this...to say it was a pre-meditated by the government is disgusting..whatever 'evidence' you may have...

no its not offensive at all..its to let people know that maybe things arnt always as straightforward as they seem

and dont be stupid to think i dont care about the people who died in the tragedy, you will be foolish for thinking so.
and dont tell me whats disgusting cos you have no idea

Originally posted by Deano
no its not offensive at all..its to let people know that maybe things arnt always as straightforward as they seem

Things aren't always as shady or hidden as they seem also.

-AC

not always no..but in most cases..

Originally posted by Deano
i dont see no joke at all

the truth spoken as a double negative

Originally posted by PVS
the truth spoken as a double negative

is the real truth startin to sink in?

Originally posted by Deano
is the real truth startin to sink in?

i guess that was over your head.

Originally posted by Deano
not always no..but in most cases..

In most cases things are more shady than they seem?

Pull your head out of the Icke books man.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
In most cases things are more shady than they seem?

Pull your head out of the Icke books man.

-AC

wheres your head lodged?

Originally posted by Deano
no its not offensive at all..its to let people know that maybe things arnt always as straightforward as they seem

and dont be stupid to think i dont care about the people who died in the tragedy, you will be foolish for thinking so.
and dont tell me whats disgusting cos you have no idea How can it not be offensive?

I really don't think I'm the one being stupid here...you are the one who is so weak minded as to be swept up into what is basically a cult..

How do you know that?...because I don't believe in looking for conspiracies in every bit of human tragedy, I have no idea what disgusting is, right?

Nowhere.

Oh...oh I see what you did there, clever. Or maybe...a conspiracy.

-AC

Originally posted by Fianna
How can it not be offensive?

I really don't think I'm the one being stupid here...you are the one who is so weak minded as to be swept up into what is basically a cult..

How do you know that?...because I don't believe in looking for conspiracies in every bit of human tragedy, I have no idea what disgusting is, right?

if its all crap then you have nothing to worry about then
dont take it out on me
if you did some research instead of just mindlessly rambling on, it would be better for all of us

Originally posted by Deano
if you did some research instead of just mindlessly rambling on, it would be better for all of us

im confused....is this the 'constructive self criticism' thread?

Originally posted by Deano
if its all crap then you have nothing to worry about then
dont take it out on me
if you did some research instead of just mindlessly rambling on, it would be better for all of us Ooo okay...now THAT is one hell of a good example of hypocrisy....well done, sir..exceptional..

Originally posted by Fianna
Ooo okay...now THAT is one hell of a good example of hypocrisy....well done, sir..exceptional..

thank you.
and that is a good example of ignorance miss, congrats

Hello Deano good to see you are still at it oh and I readyour books

Originally posted by Grand Moff Gav,
Hello Deano good to see you are still at it oh and I readyour books

which ones?

Originally posted by Deano
which ones?
the one about the Lizards and defending the dogma

what did you think

well it was a load of noncience I mean how does Ikce know what Lizard rituals are?

i do not know

i think icke was given a lot of misinformation and because he is really passionate about seraching for the truth, he swallowed the lies and therefore as been branded a crazy nutter.
i think he is spot on about the global conspiracy though, nwo, microchipping, illuminati

Originally posted by Deano
i do not know

i think icke was given a lot of misinformation and because he is really passionate about seraching for the truth, he swallowed the lies and therefore as been branded a crazy nutter.
i think he is spot on about the global conspiracy though, nwo, microchipping, illuminati

If the Illuminati didnt want to be known about then the wouldnt be known about simple as that.

Originally posted by Grand Moff Gav,
If the Illuminati didnt want to be known about then the wouldnt be known about simple as that.

no its not

an organisation on such a grand scale. how can no info get leaked out?

Originally posted by Deano
no its not

an organisation on such a grand scale. how can no info get leaked out?

well they do rule the world dont they!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/PVS/geico.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/PVS/geico.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/PVS/geico.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/PVS/geico.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/PVS/geico.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/PVS/geico.jpg

we're watching you deano

Originally posted by PVS
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/PVS/geico.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/PVS/geico.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/PVS/geico.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/PVS/geico.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/PVS/geico.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/PVS/geico.jpg

we're watching you deano
Mwahahahhaha

Originally posted by Grand Moff Gav,
well they do rule the world dont they!

http://www.illuminati-news.com/no-world-conspiracy.htm

yes and its easy for them to do it through many parts of the Illuminati network that new researchers discover is the group of organisations which connect into the British-based secret society called The Round Table.

These include the Bilderberg Group, the Royal Institute of International Affairs, the Council on Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission, and the Club of Rome. See illustration:

http://www.davidicke.com/icke/articles2/pics/rd-tabl2.jpg

These organisations have among their number the top people in global politics, business, banking, military, media, "education" and so forth. These are the channels through which the same global policies are co-ordinated outside of public knowledge through apparently unconnected countries, political parties, and institutions. The upper levels of secret societies like the Freemasons, Knights of Malta, etc., connect into this Round Table web also.

Deano how do you know im not an agent of the illuminatri?

where does king arthur fit in to that round table...

Originally posted by jaden101
where does king arthur fit in to that round table...
he doesnt he let him self go and is now too fat.

Originally posted by jaden101
where does king arthur fit in to that round table... The queen of England is him in disguise...didn't you know?

whaaaaaaaaaaaa

I was in Harrods the other day in London at the outdoor activities department and 2 guys of middle eastern appearance walked in. One of them lifted a rucksack off the shelf, put it on and said to the other "Does my bomb look big in this?"

Originally posted by PVS
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/PVS/geico.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/PVS/geico.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/PVS/geico.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/PVS/geico.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/PVS/geico.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/PVS/geico.jpg

we're watching you deano

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Originally posted by Fianna
The queen of England is him in disguise...didn't you know?

i always thought there was something fishy about her after i seen her shaving in the bathroom of a motorway service station last year...that explains it

The fact that this information, about a secret society controlling every aspect of the world, is continuously posted on this website makes it incongruous.
If an organisation controls the entire world and wants to remain covert, how would you ever find out about it. There would not be websites devoted to divulging the organisation's insidious plots, and anyone who tried to reveal information would probably be dead.

Heard of the "Great Firewall of China"? Searches for things like "Tibet independence" or "Falun Gong" come up with nothing. If powerful people want to censor the internet they will.

or at least live to tell and cointinue telling

Originally posted by Deano
http://conspiracycentral.net:6969/torrent.html? info_hash=6e72146beacedbf7310c9737b129c02392c22211


a compilation of all the current evidence that supports the conspiracy of 7/7 being an inside job just like every other terroist act like it eventualy turns out to be an inside job. When will people learn?

So you are more of those conspericy... People.

what ever you say buddy

aint it a puzzle that with all these "overwhelming evidence" Deano has presented for us about these so called big ass secret organisations he is still alive to produce more evidence for us to read?

Shhhh...be quiet! Shhhhh...so, eh...yeah...shhhhhh! The Illuminati...booooooo!...are now making reggae/punk/dub albums! Shhhhh...The truth is out there...Shhh.

Originally posted by finti
aint it a puzzle that with all these "overwhelming evidence" Deano has presented for us about these so called big ass secret organisations he is still alive to produce more evidence for us to read?

yes i am still alive
whats your point

Oh for crying out loud.

The reason why they put the bombs where they have is because its on the central line.

Most businessmen get on central line to get around and get to work.

When we put all the dots together - Its a triangle! Wow! Triangle just screams comspiracy. No more TV for you Deano.

Originally posted by finti
aint it a puzzle that with all these "overwhelming evidence" Deano has presented for us about these so called big ass secret organisations he is still alive to produce more evidence for us to read?

The problem for me would be, if I believed, I would wonder how much of my thinking would be my own. I mean logically if they are so powerful information about them wouldn't get out... unless they wanted it to get out, which means in a way I would, by talking about it be doing their bidding.... gahhhh, it's a no win situation.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Oh for crying out loud.

The reason why they put the bombs where they have is because its on the central line.

Most businessmen get on central line to get around and get to work.

When we put all the dots together - Its a triangle! Wow! Triangle just screams comspiracy. No more TV for you Deano.

i hardly watch tv anyway,only when football is on

cant we just merge all this bullshit into one "deano thread"?
he's cluttering up the whole forum with this nonesense. its getting old

yes master, oh wise one who knows what is bullshit and what is not

How do you know the the footballers aren't kicking the ball in a particular pattern in order to alter your subconscious and subordinate your will to the Illuminati? It would probably be wise to give up TV altogether.

if it looks like bullshit...and smells like bullshit...it must be another deano thread.

point is if there were a secret all global organisation, and you spilling your guts about them on the net would make you toast

Originally posted by finti
point is if there were a secret all global organisation, and you spilling your guts about them on the net would make you toast

dont you think thaat would look strange if all conspiracy researchers were bumped off?

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
How do you know the the footballers aren't kicking the ball in a particular pattern in order to alter your subconscious and subordinate your will to the Illuminati? It would probably be wise to give up TV altogether.

nope cos thats just stupid

Originally posted by PVS
if it looks like bullshit...and smells like bullshit...it must be another deano thread.

the truth is hurting you bad..i can tell

Originally posted by finti
point is if there were a secret all global organisation, and you spilling your guts about them on the net would make you toast

I knew the Illuminati are a toaster organisation!

Originally posted by Deano
the truth is hurting you bad..i can tell

HURTING me?
you poor deluded fool.
you honestly think you're fighting some kind of battle here dont you?

Originally posted by PVS
HURTING me?
you poor deluded fool.
you honestly think you're fighting some kind of battle here dont you?

well you keep coming back and starting shit, with your cheap shots...you obviously are getting upset, relax, take a stress pill. we'll win through in the end.

Originally posted by Deano
well you keep coming back and starting shit, with your cheap shots...you obviously are getting upset, relax, take a stress pill. we'll win through in the end.
no you wont the Lizards have control!

Originally posted by Grand Moff Gav
no you wont the Lizards have control!

then we have to get the ray guns then wont we

Originally posted by Deano
then we have to get the ray guns then wont we

You dont have ray gunsssssssss fool!

UPSET? do you honestly believe in that mind of yours that you somehow personally effect me? all you do is provide literal roadblocks of fanatical bullshit which clutter this forum. that is what i protest.

you need to wake up and pull your cranium out of your derier

Originally posted by PVS
UPSET? do you honestly believe in that mind of yours that you somehow personally effect me? all you do is provide literal roadblocks of fanatical bullshit which clutter this forum. that is what i protest.

you need to wake up and pull your cranium out of your derier

You do not believe in the Lizardsssssss?

Originally posted by PVS
UPSET? do you honestly believe in that mind of yours that you somehow personally effect me? all you do is provide literal roadblocks of fanatical bullshit which clutter this forum. that is what i protest.

you need to wake up and pull your cranium out of your derier

your emotionly drained, go to sleep
and i dont think its fanatical at all

Originally posted by Deano
your emotionly drained, go to sleep
and i dont think its fanatical at all
You believe in the lizardssssssss right?

Originally posted by Grand Moff Gav
You do not believe in the Lizardsssssss?

yes, they do exist, heres the proof, i thought it was pretty obvious they exist

http://www.delargy.com/images/2004_7_Colorado/lizard%201a.JPG

Originally posted by Deano
your emotionly drained, go to sleep
and i dont think its fanatical at all

of coarse you dont. thats because you have no grasp on reality.
and if i WAS emotionally drained, im sure sleep would cure that.
but what will cure your fanatical delusions? far more than sleep i presume.

Yesssssssssssssssssss,btw is your sig a challenge?

"You can chain me, you can torture me, you can even destroy this body, but you'll never imprison my mind."

a challenge? woudnt of thought so

It’s a simple and brilliantly organised structure, ruled from the top with a rod of iron, and no mercy is shown to anyone who does not do exactly as they are told. That’s why it has worked so efficiently for so long. Add to that the fact that the truth of what is going on is so bizarre that most people will not believe it and you have the perfect situation for ongoing, unchallenged control.
Until now.

we have remained ignorant of this by controlling what is taught in
schools and universities, the institutions of ‘science’ and, therefore, what the media considers possible and credible in its arrogant and pathetic dismissal of anything which challenges the ‘norm. Humanity spends its life watching a movie screen believing it to be reality while the world as it really is remains
hidden from view. Journalists are not reporting what is going on in the world, they are reporting the story line in the movie.

Originally posted by Deano
a challenge? woudnt of thought so

It’s a simple and brilliantly organised structure, ruled from the top with a rod of iron, and no mercy is shown to anyone who does not do exactly as they are told. That’s why it has worked so efficiently for so long. Add to that the fact that the truth of what is going on is so bizarre that most people will not believe it and you have the perfect situation for ongoing, unchallenged control.
Until now.
But i like the people in control!

Other aspects of the Brotherhood Agenda, across the ‘Millennium’ and
the years to 2012, include: a global financial collapse to introduce the one-world electronic currency; conflicts and terrorism galore; and a whole range of other events to terrify and dispirit the human population into unquestioning servitude.
But it doesn’t have to be like this. You are not an ‘ordinary’, ‘powerless’ human being. You are an aspect of eternal consciousness, a genius waiting to happen. All you need to do is open your heart, open your mind, reconnect with that genius and grasp your infinite power to create your own destiny. That is our challenge in this incredible time of opportunity and we are going to see freedom return to this planet for the first time in so, so long.

Originally posted by Deano
Other aspects of the Brotherhood Agenda, across the ‘Millennium’ and
the years to 2012, include: a global financial collapse to introduce the one-world electronic currency; conflicts and terrorism galore; and a whole range of other events to terrify and dispirit the human population into unquestioning servitude.
But it doesn’t have to be like this. You are not an ‘ordinary’, ‘powerless’ human being. You are an aspect of eternal consciousness, a genius waiting to happen. All you need to do is open your heart, open your mind, reconnect with that genius and grasp your infinite power to create your own destiny. That is our challenge in this incredible time of opportunity and we are going to see freedom return to this planet for the first time in so, so long.

What website are you reading that from?

Originally posted by Deano
Other aspects of the Brotherhood Agenda, across the ‘Millennium’ and
the years to 2012, include: a global financial collapse to introduce the one-world electronic currency; conflicts and terrorism galore; and a whole range of other events to terrify and dispirit the human population into unquestioning servitude.
But it doesn’t have to be like this. You are not an ‘ordinary’, ‘powerless’ human being. You are an aspect of eternal consciousness, a genius waiting to happen. All you need to do is open your heart, open your mind, reconnect with that genius and grasp your infinite power to create your own destiny. That is our challenge in this incredible time of opportunity and we are going to see freedom return to this planet for the first time in so, so long.

wait for it....WAIT FOR IT

"all you need to do is send £50 pounds to the address at the end of this announcement and you will be saved"

how have the Brotherhood controlled the world for thousands of years? By manipulating the way humanity thinks and feels. How we think and feel creates our physical experience and if we allow an outside force to manipulate our mind and emotions, we will allow them to control our physical experience, our destiny. But we can change that in an instant if we take back control of our thinking and emotions. Creating our own reality and deciding our own destiny is, at its heart, a very simple process. It can be summed up by “What we give out is what we get back”

Originally posted by Deano
how have the Brotherhood controlled the world for thousands of years? By manipulating the way humanity thinks and feels. How we think and feel creates our physical experience and if we allow an outside force to manipulate our mind and emotions, we will allow them to control our physical experience, our destiny. But we can change that in an instant if we take back control of our thinking and emotions. Creating our own reality and deciding our own destiny is, at its heart, a very simple process. It can be summed up by “What we give out is what we get back”

Beware the seven foot Lizards who masscarrade as the royal family the will kill us all..........or feed us cookies which turn us into lizards!

The power of belief to entrap a mind is incredible. The Brotherhood do not care what you believe as long as you believe something to the exclusion of other possibilities. I am quite happy to change my views on any or all the information in this book if that is where new information leads me. I am not attached to it because I am only seeking the truth, whatever it is. If it is something different to what I think now, fine. So be it. Rigid beliefs defend themselves from all comers because the belief becomes the person’s sense of self, their sense of security, and so they would rather cling on to the belief than face the mental and emotional challenge of letting it go. But we are now facing a time of the most phenomenal change in which all beliefs are going to crumble. You can write the future on a blank piece of paper far easier than one that is full of old data. You can plant new flowers on an empty piece of garden far easier than one still consumed by weeds. It is time to clear our minds of belief and be open to all possibility. Only then can we be free to tap into infinity.

Originally posted by Grand Moff Gav
What website are you reading that from?

its from the book that i sent you, the book that you apparently read

Originally posted by Deano
The power of belief to entrap a mind is incredible. The Brotherhood do not care what you believe as long as you believe something to the exclusion of other possibilities. I am quite happy to change my views on any or all the information in this book if that is where new information leads me. I am not attached to it because I am only seeking the truth, whatever it is. If it is something different to what I think now, fine. So be it. Rigid beliefs defend themselves from all comers because the belief becomes the person’s sense of self, their sense of security, and so they would rather cling on to the belief than face the mental and emotional challenge of letting it go. But we are now facing a time of the most phenomenal change in which all beliefs are going to crumble. You can write the future on a blank piece of paper far easier than one that is full of old data. You can plant new flowers on an empty piece of garden far easier than one still consumed by weeds. It is time to clear our minds of belief and be open to all possibility. Only then can we be free to tap into infinity.

Sorry but i just read the first and last couple of words!

Originally posted by Deano
its from the book that i sent you, the book that you apparently read

read pah I skimmed Ickes stories are not very captivating!

i've been marvin trill and you've been listening to area 53 on WCTR...

oh all right

Originally posted by Deano
It’s a simple and brilliantly organised structure, ruled from the top with a rod of iron, and no mercy is shown to anyone who does not do exactly as they are told.
And you escape this rod of iron how?
Originally posted by Deano
But it doesn’t have to be like this. You are not an ‘ordinary’, ‘powerless’ human being. You are an aspect of eternal consciousness, a genius waiting to happen. All you need to do is open your heart, open your mind, reconnect with that genius and grasp your infinite power to create your own destiny.
Oh I see now. Posting all this garbage gives you a (false) sense of self-importance?
After all, you managed to find all this out when no one else could, right?
You know something others don't.
You don't buy into the evil media with there false facts and planted evidence, but other gullible people do.
How can they not see that all the evidence they're presented with is false and the "evidence" that you provide is absolute. They're so ignorant.
You manage to spread this "information" without incurring the wrath of the organisation.
You must be brilliant.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
And you escape this rod of iron how?

Oh I see now. Posting all this garbage gives you a (false) sense of self-importance?
After all, you managed to find all this out when no one else could, right?
You know something others don't.
You don't buy into the evil media with there false facts and planted evidence, but other gullible people do.
How can they not see that all the evidence they're presented with is false and the "evidence" that you provide is absolute. They're so ignorant.
You manage to spread this "information" without incurring the wrath of the organisation.
You must be brilliant.

without incurring the wrath?
please make sense
and yes i am brilliant

Originally posted by Deano
without incurring the wrath?
please make sense
and yes i am brilliant

you are that!

Originally posted by Deano
without incurring the wrath?
please make sense
and yes i am brilliant
What part of the phrase "incurring the wrath" did you not comprehend?
Doesn't speak much for your vaunted brilliance.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
What part of the phrase "incurring the wrath" did you not comprehend?
Doesn't speak much for your vaunted brilliance.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
What part of the phrase "incurring the wrath" did you not comprehend?
Doesn't speak much for your vaunted brilliance.

i knew what you meant
i just was baffled onto why you said it
i didnt figure you would be that stupid

Originally posted by Deano
i knew what you meant
i just was baffled onto why you said it
i didnt figure you would be that stupid

Ohh booo boooooo Jerry Jerry

Originally posted by Deano
i knew what you meant
i just was baffled onto why you said it
i didnt figure you would be that stupid
You've stated your belief that powerful organisation/s control the world.
You post supposed evidence and information about said organisation/s, and yet manage to escape any consequences from doing so, as you are apparently alive.
I used a turn of phrase that adequately describes what you apparently do.
What part of that is so far beyond your level of comprehension that it baffles you?
I suppose past precedent in your posts explain why you find logical conclusions to be stupid. And frankly your in no position to be calling anyone that word.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
You've stated your belief that powerful organisation/s control the world.
You post supposed evidence and information about said organisation/s, and yet manage to escape any consequences from doing so, as you are apparently alive.
I used a turn of phrase that adequately describes what you apparently do.
What part of that is so far beyond your level of comprehension that it baffles you?
I suppose past precedent in your posts explain why you find logical conclusions to be stupid. And frankly your in no position to be calling anyone that word.

like i said before, it would look a bit funny if all conspiracy researches were bumped off woudnt it? i sure you can figure that out

Originally posted by Deano
like i said before, it would look a bit funny if all conspiracy researches were bumped off woudnt it? i sure you can figure that out

But why would they want to kill you you havnt conviced anyone and are hardly a danger to their plans.

this is gettin stupid

Originally posted by Deano
like i said before, it would look a bit funny if all conspiracy researches were bumped off woudnt it? i sure you can figure that out
Because dissidents are never attacked, killed or imprisoned by those in power?
Uzbekistan, Myanmar, China, Iraq, Iran, Uganda... the list goes on.

Originally posted by Deano
like i said before, it would look a bit funny if all conspiracy researches were bumped off woudnt it? i sure you can figure that out

Now that would "wake up" some people if Icke just vanished on day or had a car "accident"

One point for me! Seeing the title "London Bombings - inside job (As always" I guessed it was Deano before seeing it! (Pads self on shoulder).

Deano> Don't you think that if this was true, the media would be ALL over it. You can't silence every newsreporter and every media-person in Great Britain.

i know you cant...but..

At ownership level, people like Conrad Black at the Hollinger Group and Rupert Murdoch of the News Corporation know what is going on. The editors they appoint might know something about it, as may certain columnists, but most of the journalists will have no idea. The editor is always there to block anything they write that is against the interests of the Illuminati - as directed by the owner-and if they insist on pursuing an unwelcome story they find themselves looking for another job. Most of the 'information' that journalists present comes from official (Illuminati) sources anyway. In the immediate aftermath of a major event such as September 11 th, where are the reporters getting their information from? Official sources! Name me a single piece of relevant information broadcast by the mainstream media about what happened on 9/11, how it was done, who did it and what the retaliation should be, that did not come from official sources. Not one!
We are told that White House sources say this, FBI sources say that, and OA or Pentagon sources say the other. This is how the Illuminati transmit through the media the version of events they wish the public to believe. These reports are blazed across the front pages of newspapers and the top of radio and television news bulletins throughout the world, and what they say becomes the 'norm', the official 'history'. In the weeks and months that followed, researchers who are interested in the real truth begin to dig away. Over and Over the establish and document the proof of how the official version was a lie from start to finish. But where are their reports published? In small-circulation newsletters, self-published books, on the Internet and radio stations that operate with a fraction of the money and potential audience of the Illuminati empires. Therefore, years after the official version has been demolished it still prevails in the public mind. Stop anyone in London, New York, Cape Town, Sydney, anywhere, and ask them what happened on September 11th, or in Oklahoma, the Second World War or Kosovo. Almost every time they'll give you the official story because that is the only one they have heard. If we had real mainstream journalism the problem-reaction-solution technique(see post below) could not work. The official version of events would be investigated and shown to have no foundation. This fact would be communicated to the people and the public reaction, desired by the authorities, would not be forthcoming. But instead, we have media that is little more than a public relations office for the official version of life and that makes problem-reaction-solution a breeze for the manipulators.

Problem reaction solution

It works like this: you know that if you openly propose to basic freedoms, start a war or centralise power, there will be a public reaction against it. So you don't openly and honestly propose such plans, you play the P-R-S scam. At stage one you create a problem. It could be a coup attacking another, a government or economic collapse, or a 'terrorist attack. Anything in fact that the public will think requires a 'solution'. At stage two, you report the 'problems' you have covertly created in the way you wish the people to perceive them. Crucially you find someone to blame for the problem, a 'patsy' like Lee Harvey Oswald when President Kennedy was assassinated, or Osama bin Laden. You spin the background to these events in a way that encouri1ges the people to demand that "something must be done". These are the words you want to hear because they allow you to move on to stage three, the sting. At this point you openly offer the solutions to the problems you have yourself created. These solutions, of course, involve the centralisation of power, the sacking of officials or politicians that are getting in your way, and the removal of more basic freedoms as you advance further to your global fascist state. Just think of the freedoms that have been removed because of 9/11.
With this technique you can so manipulate the public mind that people will demand or at least allow you to introduce what, in normal circumstances, they would vehemently oppose. The Oklahoma bomb at the Alfred P. Murrah Building on April 19th 1995 was a problem-reaction-solution classic

do the lizard men shed their skin?

The Illuminati control the world on a grand scale and engineer massive cover ups, yet you and your cohorts manage to find information on them and publish it for all to see and somehow manage to escape their notice. The two situations are not complementary.
If an organisation of this scale wanted to prevent information from surfacing and being published on a medium like the internet then they would do so with ease.

yeah but....lizards aint too bright

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
The Illuminati control the world on a grand scale and engineer massive cover ups, yet you and your cohorts manage to find information on them and publish it for all to see and somehow manage to escape their notice. The two situations are not complementary.
If an organisation of this scale wanted to prevent information from surfacing and being published on a medium like the internet then they would do so with ease.

i doubt it
millions of websites closed down? that would look fairly odd

I once again refer you to Chinese google and the fact that a search for terms such as "Falun Gong" and "Tibet independence" come up blank in the country.

read this and you can see how easy your question is about finding out info about the illuminati. i really think you need to do more research if youare interested, and then judge


Q: Hello, my name is and I just read "The Secret Order of The Illuminati" by Wes Penre. It was a very good article and, in fact, I have no trouble believing it at all. But I was just wondering how exactly you/he got all this information. One part says "...no secrecy is kept forever, and sooner or later there will be leaks." Well, it seems like there must have been a LOT of leaks to somehow get all of that detailed information. Where did did you get all these facts? Do you really believe all of it? I guess my main question is just...how do you know that this is true? Please respond, I'm very interested in this subject. Thanks for your time.

A: I have researched this subject for more than a decade now, and I was once a high initiate in one of those secret societies myself, until I found out what it was really about. Since then I have taken the knowledge from there and continued my research, interviewed people involved, lived together with mind control survivors; I am also corresponding with people inside the Illuminati, Freemasonry and other occult Orders, who need to be anonymous, because they fear for their lives. Not EVERYBODY inside is bad. Some are trapped in there by oath or bloodline and can’t get out, but still leak information, because they want the truth to be known.

The rest is pretty obvious when we start looking at it. If you continue reading from my website, you will quite soon see how the pieces in the big puzzle fit together, and you will probably realize that there is not much of an alternative. It kind of explains most of what is going on in the world. I am definitely not sitting on THE WHOLE truth, but I know for sure that the overall picture is very accurate. There are still lots of pieces that are missing for me in this giant puzzle, and I make mistakes (which I am eager to correct when found or pointed out), but overall I am certain that the information is correct.

Deano> “At ownership level, people like Conrad Black at the Hollinger Group and Rupert Murdoch of the News Corporation know what is going on.”
How do YOU know this?

“The editors they appoint might know something about it, as may certain columnists, but most of the journalists will have no idea.”
How would high-level people know “it” if they’re not out in the field? And how do you know this?

“The editor is always there to block anything they write that is against the interests of the Illuminati - as directed by the owner-and if they insist on pursuing an unwelcome story they find themselves looking for another job.”
So – among the thousand of journalists not ONE is brave enough to want the truth out more than keeping his/her job? And EVERY editor in England is an Illuminati?? Every single one of them? How do you know this?


“Most of the 'information' that journalists present comes from official (Illuminati) sources anyway.”
How do you know this?

“In the immediate aftermath of a major event such as September 11 th, where are the reporters getting their information from? Official sources! Name me a single piece of relevant information broadcast by the mainstream media about what happened on 9/11, how it was done, who did it and what the retaliation should be, that did not come from official sources. Not one!”
How do you know this?

“We are told that White House sources say this, FBI sources say that, and OA or Pentagon sources say the other. This is how the Illuminati transmit through the media the version of events they wish the public to believe.”
How do you know this? How do you know that every single person in the White House, FBI, Pentagon etc. are “in” with the Illuminati? Watergate! The journalists were not assassinated, were they? The Illuminated couldn’t even keep something as “small” as Watergate from the press. How’d they keep something as government bombing from leaking??

“In the weeks and months that followed, researchers who are interested in the real truth begin to dig away.”
How do you know what the REAL TRUTH is?

“But where are their reports published? In small-circulation newsletters, self-published books, on the Internet and radio stations that operate with a fraction of the money and potential audience of the Illuminati empires.”
So, only smaller groups with less resources and money know the REAL truth? How do you know this?

Omega, are you trying to reason with deano?
let me fill you in. he's intentionally impossible and will ignore any and all points and evidence against him. all detailed questions will be responded to with non-answers and pointless rhetoric, and then he'll go on another copy and paste spree to seem like he knows what the hell he's preaching. you are wasting your energy and would have a better chance making the blind see and the crippled walk.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I once again refer you to Chinese google and the fact that a search for terms such as "Falun Gong" and "Tibet independence" come up blank in the country.
So basically when a fact comes up that is incongruous to your huge conspiracy, you just ignore it and tell people to do more research and then post something you've copied and pasted from a website.

Originally posted by The Omega
Deano> “At ownership level, people like Conrad Black at the Hollinger Group and Rupert Murdoch of the News Corporation know what is going on.”
How do YOU know this?

“The editors they appoint might know something about it, as may certain columnists, but most of the journalists will have no idea.”
How would high-level people know “it” if they’re not out in the field? And how do you know this?

“The editor is always there to block anything they write that is against the interests of the Illuminati - as directed by the owner-and if they insist on pursuing an unwelcome story they find themselves looking for another job.”
So – among the thousand of journalists not ONE is brave enough to want the truth out more than keeping his/her job? And EVERY editor in England is an Illuminati?? Every single one of them? How do you know this?


“Most of the 'information' that journalists present comes from official (Illuminati) sources anyway.”
How do you know this?

“In the immediate aftermath of a major event such as September 11 th, where are the reporters getting their information from? Official sources! Name me a single piece of relevant information broadcast by the mainstream media about what happened on 9/11, how it was done, who did it and what the retaliation should be, that did not come from official sources. Not one!”
How do you know this?

“We are told that White House sources say this, FBI sources say that, and OA or Pentagon sources say the other. This is how the Illuminati transmit through the media the version of events they wish the public to believe.”
How do you know this? How do you know that every single person in the White House, FBI, Pentagon etc. are “in” with the Illuminati? Watergate! The journalists were not assassinated, were they? The Illuminated couldn’t even keep something as “small” as Watergate from the press. How’d they keep something as government bombing from leaking??

“In the weeks and months that followed, researchers who are interested in the real truth begin to dig away.”
How do you know what the REAL TRUTH is?

“But where are their reports published? In small-circulation newsletters, self-published books, on the Internet and radio stations that operate with a fraction of the money and potential audience of the Illuminati empires.”
So, only smaller groups with less resources and money know the REAL truth? How do you know this?

well since david icke was a journalist and tv presenter for many years with the bbc, id say he has a fair idea of what is going on. there is no point sayin 'how do you know this?' all i can say is research and read a book

heres a sample:

The names Rothschild, Rockefeller, Kissinger and Carrington appear on the boards and ‘advisory’ boards of global media corporations and that’s no surprise. To control humanity through the mind and emotions you simply have to control the media. Without that it’s impossible. This is made so much easier because the overwhelming majority of journalists in the world, including the so-called ‘big names’ in each country, are either agents for the Brotherhood (the small minority) or they don’t know their arse from their elbow when it comes to understanding what is going on in the world.

I’ve been a journalist and so I have seen both sides and what is termed the communications industry is really the blind (journalists) leading the blind (their readers and viewers). My experience as a journalist,
and as the target of journalists, has shown me very clearly how remarkably few brain cells you need to do the job. Every day on television stations all over the world, journalists and correspondents give their viewers the official version of the event they are reporting. “White House sources say this..., the Prime Minister says that..., the FBI say the other... “In all my time in journalism I cannot recall a single conversation in a newsroom that didn’t reflect the official version of life and the world. Most journalists are not manipulating, they are simply stunningly uninformed and often incredibly arrogant. They believe that if anything of magnitude was going on they would know about it because they are ‘journalists’. In truth they are the last to know. Arrogance and naivete, the mental
combination that produces so many journalists, is a telling and highly destructive combination. Add a padlocked mind and you’ve got the job.

One BBC interviewer said to me in all seriousness that we should be no more concerned about the membership of the Freemasons than we should the membership of the local squash club. I’m not kidding. I have given many journalists the story of what is going on and they have either dismissed it without even looking at the evidence or they have ridiculed the information without looking at the evidence. I remember meeting a guy, I think his name was Taylor or something, in Los Angeles in early 1997. He worked for The Observer newspaper in London. I told him about the paedophile activities of George Bush and his drug running operation. I offered to put him in touch with some of those who had been abused by Bush. What did this ‘journalist’ do? He went away and wrote an article making personal attacks on me, including the fact that my eyes appeared bloodshot. Not surprising after a non stop speaking tour of Australia, New Zealand and the United States over a period of two months, but how can anyone write about the state of someone’s eyes when they are being offered, as he put it himself, the “Story of the century”? Because he’s a journalist, that’s why I offered to put the British Sunday People in contact with similar sources, but they didn’t want to know. As the old saying goes: “You cannot bribe or twist the great British journalist, but seeing what they will do unbribed, there’s no reason to.” Of course there are journalists who are exceptions, and honourable ones, but they are so, so rare and ask them what happens when they try to write the story as it really is.
Journalists dance to the official tune and become the copy typists and town criers for the official version of life. They are the ‘gofers’ for those higher up the media pyramid. At the top are bankers who provide the funds to buy the media groups. These bankers also control the major industries and business networks and the newspaper, television, and radio operations cannot survive without the advertising revenue from these people.

interesting no? can you get your head around all of that?
lots more info in the book if you bothered to read it

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I once again refer you to Chinese google and the fact that a search for terms such as "Falun Gong" and "Tibet independence" come up blank in the country.

ok ok i get your point, but its impossible to filter out this info on the net and i stand by that comment..

.................................

Q: If the Illuminati are so powerful, why do they let you spread this info on your website? Also, should I be afraid for surfing in or reading from your site? Are they tracking me?

A: Fortunately the Illuminati don’t have the time and resources to track everyone that surfs in on websites like mine. You don’t have to worry. Besides, they are so arrogant that they don’t even think I am much of a threat – maybe just an annoying fly buzzing around… They believe they have everything so well organized and under control that almost nothing can stop them from achieving their goals. Obstacles in the way –yes, but nothing serious enough to threaten the outcome of the New World Order. They rely on our stupidity, ignorance and fear to accomplishing their goals. But remember: they are only powerful so long as we are giving the power to them. Without us supporting them (by real action or by ignorance) they wouldn't exist.

Originally posted by PVS
Omega, are you trying to reason with deano?
let me fill you in. he's intentionally impossible and will ignore any and all points and evidence against him. all detailed questions will be responded to with non-answers and pointless rhetoric, and then he'll go on another copy and paste spree to seem like he knows what the hell he's preaching. you are wasting your energy and would have a better chance making the blind see and the crippled walk.

that is very rich coming from you, a person who talks so much but yet knows very little..a real shame
how many of my points you dodged in the past? or tryed to dodge with stupid answers?

Originally posted by Deano
ok ok i get your point, but its impossible to filter out this info on the net and i stand by that comment..
The Chinese Communist Party proves you wrong. Is the Illuminati more powerful than the Chinese government?

Deano>” there is no point sayin 'how do you know this?' all i can say is research and read a book”

Let me guess – books written by conspiracy-authors? How do you KNOW that these authors know the truth?

“I’ve been a journalist…” Really? Where? What degree do you have? Where did you take it?

”… and so I have seen both sides and what is termed the communications industry is really the blind (journalists) leading the blind (their readers and viewers). My experience as a journalist, and as the target of journalists, has shown me very clearly how remarkably few brain cells you need to do the job.”
Strange that you actually have to take a degree to be a journalist. You bashing journalists does NOT give me a shred of evidence in support of your theory though.

” Most journalists are not manipulating, they are simply stunningly uninformed and often incredibly arrogant.”
So – most journalists are stunningly uninformed??? You know this, because… ? How does the Illuminati get ALL its worlwide info? Not from journalists I take it, but from…?
Again, bashing journalists still does not give me any evidence in support of your theory.

” They believe that if anything of magnitude was going on they would know about it because they are ‘journalists’.”
How do you know this? How do you know what every journalist on the planet believes?

” Arrogance and naivete, the mental combination that produces so many journalists, is a telling and highly destructive combination. Add a padlocked mind and you’ve got the job.”
You’ve now spend half a page bashing journalists, but haven’t shown me how you KNOW all that you claim.

” One BBC interviewer said to me in all seriousness that we should be no more concerned about the membership of the Freemasons than we should the membership of the local squash club.”
Maybe because the Freemasons are a club were some men go and make funny rituals? Have you for ONE second considered that this BBC interviwer was RIGHT?

you aint listening to me, david icke wrote that info and he was a journalist so i think he knows more than YOU about how it works

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
The Chinese Communist Party proves you wrong. Is the Illuminati more powerful than the Chinese government?

they cant filter all of it out..impossible

Originally posted by Deano
they cant filter all of it out..impossible
Strange how things that are clearly possible are impossible to you, while things that are highly implausible are absolute certainty.