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Lord Tyranus vS Obi Wan Kenobi

BURN!!!!!

this may b the dumbest thread ever after all the times that people have out like obi-wan AND some1 else and they still get beat by dooku and u still put obi-wan alone vs. him

Dooku would smash obi after 13 sec.

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
BURN!!!!!
uh....why?

Lemme guess..been done before right..

....regs..

Originally posted by Luke Is Better
this may b the dumbest thread ever after all the times that people have out like obi-wan AND some1 else and they still get beat by dooku and u still put obi-wan alone vs. him

Dooku would smash obi after 13 sec.

? ? ?

not that its been done, or prolly has, but we have seen the obvious outcome in the movies twice bro.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Lord Tyranus vS Obi Wan Kenobi

Do i have to tattoo it backwards on your forehead so everytime you try to check yourself out in the mirror, you will see it?



COUNT DOOKU KICKED OBI WAN'S ASS TWICE! HE SLICED HIS SHIT UP AND JUST ABOUT STABBED HIM, THEN HE THREW HIM UNDER A SEVEN TON METALLIC PLATFORM!


C'mon now!

Yeah, you are abusing your posting priviledges...

lmao

Originally posted by Darth_Janus
Yeah, you are abusing your posting priviledges...

LOL! Nice pic!

I love my pics. I have been slacking lately.

Obi-Wan always loses to the old count, don't know really why, but it is fact.

But Anakin defeated the Count in Ep. 3, without getting hit. And Obi Wan defeated Anakin.

As a matter of fact, Obi Wan let Anakin go as far as he did in Ep. 3 cause Obi Wan didnt want to really kill or hurt Anankin..

So you tell me.

That logic just doesn't work. Some fighters are better at certain ways of fighting. Take Norton and Ali. Norton was Ali's foil, but he still lost to fighters Ali beat, like Foreman.

Been done before...

Tsk. That should be your new quote.

Originally posted by Rayvann Sadow
Been done before...

and i've see that picture before

Originally posted by Gryn Jabar
That logic just doesn't work.

You're 100% right..

That logic doesn't work because it doesn't make sense.

So you made my point.

Pardon?

yes it does cause sids TOLD dooku to let anakin beat him anakin could never REALLY beat dooku ever he's to headstrong so he'd make to many mistakes where as dooku is a master of saber fightin and is in total control

no you egg where does it say that. go back to tatooine luke lover

Originally posted by tommy vercetti
no you egg where does it say that. go back to tatooine luke lover

Stop antagonizing people.

hahahaha wow ne site that talks about the fight hahaha but what would i no i'm a egg on tatooine hahahaha

how would have anakin beatin him ne other way he's not that good of a saber fighter he makes to many rushed moves and doesn't control himself

Fists of the north the only reason anikan lost was because hes a moron not because obi could beat him in saber combat

Originally posted by Luke Is Better
hahahaha wow ne site that talks about the fight hahaha but what would i no i'm a egg on tatooine hahahaha
How the hell can some people understand this?

Originally posted by Baston Alveron
Fists of the north the only reason anikan lost was because hes a moron not because obi could beat him in saber combat

Obi DID beat him in saber combat. Fighting isn't just physical skill and ability; it's a mental game too.

obiwan might take this but he never beat him in tha movies it was yoda and anakin that did the work not obi he also got hurt somehow against count dooku but if count didnt cheat so much and it was all skill id say obiwan....otherwise its old ass dooku

Dooku wins, duh?

dooku wins this he is more experienced than obi won, he is a better duelist, he is stronger in the force and quicker and he beats him twice the second time fighting anakin at the same time

Why cant people realize that dooku owns this guy....

yah dooku

i also believe that dooku held back killing obi won because of his love for qui gonn and he knew tha qui gonn would not have liked his padawan to die. You will notice that he always puts him out of action but never kills him

wow you have made a good point you no alot i can tell

NIce pic, Akbar.

Hmm...tough call.
Dooku defeated Obi-Wan in ATOC
Dooku defeated Obi-Wan while fighting Anakin in ROTS
Who would win? Very tough call.
Dooku is stronger in the force, better with a lightsaber, more exp, and is faster. Who would win? Obi-Wan would win...Dooku owns this fight. No question about it.

Originally posted by tommy vercetti
i also believe that dooku held back killing obi won because of his love for qui gonn and he knew tha qui gonn would not have liked his padawan to die. You will notice that he always puts him out of action but never kills him
Well that may be true but Dooku was about to kill Obi-Wan in ATOC if Anakin didn't save him.

Obi-wan is arguably smarter.

shit esp i totally forgot about that its been like 3 years since i saw the movie, so i am wrong about that

Originally posted by tommy vercetti
i also believe that dooku held back killing obi won because of his love for qui gonn

I disagree with your statement.

He almost cancelled Obi Wan's ticket willingly in ep. 2 if Anakin didn't block the swing.

Originally posted by Gryn Jabar
Pardon?

How witty.

No seriously.

asshat..

Originally posted by Luke Is Better
yes it does cause sids TOLD dooku to let anakin beat him anakin could never REALLY beat dooku ever he's to headstrong so he'd make to many mistakes where as dooku is a master of saber fightin and is in total control

That BS, why would the Count commit suicide right at his peak .

And where did you hear this. Can you give me your source please...?

Or are you just making isht up?

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
Obi-wan is arguably smarter.

May you please explain why Obi Wan is smarter than Dooku?

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
That BS, why would the Count commit suicide right at his peak .

And where did you hear this. Can you give me your source please...?

Or are you just making isht up?
First off, you can use one post.
Second:
-Dooku was to kill Obi-Wan
-Dooku was to get captured by Anakin not killed
-Grievous would take control of CIS
-Dooku tells everyone it was all Grievous' ideas.
-The Republic kills Grievous
-Republic becomes the Empire
-Empire kills the Jedi
-Sidious and Dooku rule that galaxy.

Originally posted by ESB-1138
First off, you can use one post.
Second:

-Dooku was to get captured by Anakin not killed

Which explains his "WTF d00d!?" look when Sidious tells Anakin to finish him.

Because Sidious wanted Anakin to win not Dooku and he knew Dooku would kill him. By the time ROTJ came around Dooku would be 90-100. Anakin had more potential and would have been far younger to carry on the Empire.

Actually, Sidious never wanted Anakin past the destruction of the jedi, he was planning to "live on" using clones of himself.

Sidious always wanted Anakin. Ever since before the Clone War started Sidious planned to get Anakin to fall to the darkside.

I got a question. WHAT is the point of this thread. Has this guy not seen ROTS or AOTC?

Originally posted by Darth Somebody
I got a question. WHAT is the point of this thread. Has this guy not seen ROTS or AOTC?

Just someone else trying to rewrite reality, trying to nudge in the POSSIBILITY that Obi-wan could beat Dooku, which is utter bullshit.

I was about to say...in my absence did everyone think Obi-Wan could beat Count Dooku?

Yeah, it was a trend. Between that and bellbottoms making a comeback, you missed a lot.

We all know Dooku would beat Obi-Wan, but I would like to see Dooku vs. Qui-Gon.

I know Qui-Gon couldn't beat Maul, but Maul got a cheap shot, the same why Anakin got a cheap shot on Dooku, and beat him. You could say Dooku wasn't using his full abilities when he fought Anakin which is probably true, but I'm pretty sure Dooku didn't expect to get his hands chopped off by the boy.

Dooku seems like an evil Qui-Gon and I would like to see them go at it. I think it would be interesting, and although some will be quick to say Dooku would win, I think Qui-Gon might put up more of a fight than what we give him credit for sometimes.

It's possible, since he trained with Dooku. That would be a good fight, but I think Dooku would win.

Ultimately I think Dooku would win, but it would still be nice to see. We didn't really get to see Qui-Gon in action like we saw Dooku.

Yeah, I think everyone needs more air time. And there needs to be a game that plays like Episode III the game (Only much deeper and complex) and features all the characters in the series, both Eu and movies, and the versus match. Then we could play that and just make bets.

Make bets huh I like that idea. Yoda could earn me quite a bit of change.

Yoda as he is depicted in the game is pretty pimp

Well...duels between master and apprentice seem to be the best and in most cases the opponents seem to be equally skilled because they know exactly how the other will fight. I'd personally like to see:

- Yoda vs Dooku (till death)
- Dooku vs Qui-Gon Jinn
- Qui-Gon Jinn vs Obi-Wan Kenobi

Originally posted by Nai Fohl
Well...duels between master and apprentice seem to be the best and in most cases the opponents seem to be equally skilled because they know exactly how the other will fight. I'd personally like to see:

- Yoda vs Dooku (till death)
- Dooku vs Qui-Gon Jinn
- Qui-Gon Jinn vs Obi-Wan Kenobi

Hm, on Yoda versus Dooku, I think Dooku has the potential to beat Yoda physically, but his own insecurity undermines him. He might lose.

As for Dooku and Qui Gon Jinn, I think the gap is much wider. QGJ's style is too open and underdeveloped to compete with Dooku's.

And Qui Gon versus Obi-Wan, this would ultimately be in Obi's favor since he goes on to be a much better duellist than QGJ.

Originally posted by Darth_Janus
NIce pic, Akbar.

ty

Wb... it's been awhile.

darth tyrannus is dooku so this has already been done

Originally posted by DarthMaul9123
darth tyrannus is dooku so this has already been done

yeh, been busy...

Originally posted by Darth_Janus


HAHAHA FUNNY PICTURe

I think so.

how do you send attachments ooo nvm

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Originally posted by tommy vercetti
no you egg where does it say that. go back to tatooine luke lover

You on drugs? After Dooku finished his "You have hate.... You have anger, but you don't use them." Speech, Dooku had a perfect opportunity to bring a down swing on Anakin, killing him super quick, but he stopped and waited for Anakin to hit his Lightsaber. Dooku could have raped Anakin. I think he wanted Anakin to win so hopefully he would get sentenced by the council and be back on his feet in no time, but Palpatine had other plans...

anakin would be able to have sensed an attack coming through the force and that is why he did not look very well defended. The fact that dooku was able to take both anakin and obiwon and knock obiwon out of action for a while makes it look like he is a lot better than anakin but do you really think sidious would choose anakin over dooku unless he was 100% sure. Plus anakin was a lot younger. And tyranus wins this thread

Originally posted by joeyvermont
anakin would be able to have sensed an attack coming through the force and that is why he did not look very well defended. The fact that dooku was able to take both anakin and obiwon and knock obiwon out of action for a while makes it look like he is a lot better than anakin but do you really think sidious would choose anakin over dooku unless he was 100% sure. Plus anakin was a lot younger. And tyranus wins this thread

WTF ?
Dooku is better than Obi-Wan and Anakin together. He could have killed them easily on Geonosis and he could also have done that in ROTS. Sidious told Dooku to kill Obi-Wan and then let himself being capture by Anakin (that's what the ROTS novel says) and it's pretty obvious that Dookus intention was to lose the ROTS fight (he switched his style).

And Sidious was 100 % sure he wanted Anakin. Anakin was the chosen one (Sidious knew it), Anakin was the greatest Jedi (raw potential) alive and Sidious knew it - so why should he not be sure.

Last point: Anakin was younger. Great point. But what should that tell us ? That Sidious will keep an apprentice that is older than himself instead of somebody that is 40 years younger them himself and who has tons of more potential ? Urm...or do you want to tell us that Anakin defeated Dooku because of his youth. Ever seen Yoda fighting ?

Well, now, even if Dooku could have defeated Obi-Wan and Anakin (which he could have) it would have been excessively difficult. You seem to underestimate the two of them dramatically. They're arguably the greatest team that the Clone Wars, or the movie era for that matter, ever saw.

And if you go by the novel, then so will I. In the book, the two Jedi, once fighting with their all, nearly overwhelm Dooku, until he lets out a furious kick that separates them, and knocks Kenobi unconcious. Following, he duels and gains an advatage on Anakin, but loses because of his own arrogance. By telling Anakin to "use his anger," he lets out the full force of ROTS Anakin. He becomes overwhelmed by the furious power and strength of the youth.

Anyways, the way I see it is that, although he is a superior swordsman, he could not stand up to the furious rage of Skywalker. His Makashi style was for finesse and precision, not staving off physical blows.

dooku trained qui gon and qui gon trained obiwan so obviosly obiwan would no dooku's moves and dooku might know obiwan's strategy also so this has to be close

Dooku took out Obi-Wan in ROTS very fast without much effert. And Sidious wanted Anakin because Dooku by the time of ROTJ he would be around 90-100 and Anakin would be in his 40s.

I dont think you got my point about him being young but that doesnt matter. sidious did not actually know anakin was the chosen one. If he did he wouldn't exactly choose him for his apprentice would he. And Faunus has got the jist of this quite a bit more than you nai foll but you did make some good points aswell.

How do you know Sidious' didn't know he was the Chosen One? Anakin probably told him. There also(I don't believe it) is some rumor going around that Plaugeuis created Anakin, therefor Sidious would know about Anakin being the Chosen One. You know what I just thought, what were the qualifications for becoming the Chosen One? Back on topic. The Sith had a legend/prophecy that was the same as the Jedi one. It said that there would be a Chosen One, the Sith called him the Sith'ari, that would destroy the Sith. Sidious stopped Anakin by having him turn to the Dark Side. I think all of this point's to Sidious knowing Anakin was the Chosen One.

How would Sidious NOT know Anakin was the Chosen One? It was common knowledge for everyone.

ok anakin was the chosen one, i agree. But only the jedi masters on the council knew and not even anakin knew himself (its not like the jedi would tell him they would think it would go to his head), it was not common knowledge. Plaegius did create him but he still did not know he was the chosen one, he probably created him because he thought he could be the greatest dark jedi ever due to his count of midchlorians. And the sathiri doesnt exist but is a haox by www.supershadow.com.

It's in the ROTS novelization. If it is only from SS I will bite my little toe. In the Clone Wars cartoon Obi-wan reminds Anakin not to forget his destiny. Anakin also says in one part that defeating the Sith is his destiny.

Originally posted by Darth Faunus
Well, now, even if Dooku could have defeated Obi-Wan and Anakin (which he could have) it would have been excessively difficult. You seem to underestimate the two of them dramatically. They're arguably the greatest team that the Clone Wars, or the movie era for that matter, ever saw.

And if you go by the novel, then so will I. In the book, the two Jedi, once fighting with their all, nearly overwhelm Dooku, until he lets out a furious kick that separates them, and knocks Kenobi unconcious. Following, he duels and gains an advatage on Anakin, but loses because of his own arrogance. By telling Anakin to "use his anger," he lets out the full force of ROTS Anakin. He becomes overwhelmed by the furious power and strength of the youth.

Anyways, the way I see it is that, although he is a superior swordsman, he could not stand up to the furious rage of Skywalker. His Makashi style was for finesse and precision, not staving off physical blows.


They are not underestimated. Their Lightsaber skills and Force powers compared to Dooku are moot. Dooku has YEARS of Experience on his hands. He could have raped them both. Same on AOTC. If Yoda didn't show up, what the hell do you think would have happened to Anakin and Obi Wan? Can anyone say "Owned"?

Pretty much, Obi-Wan and Anakin combined were not enough for Dooku in a fight to the death situation.

And Glentract, I put forth the idea that either PLagueus or his work created Anakin, since it's clearly hinted at in the movie and it makes perfect sense.

Originally posted by Darth Faunus
Anyways, the way I see it is that, although he is a superior swordsman, he could not stand up to the furious rage of Skywalker. His Makashi style was for finesse and precision, not staving off physical blows.

And now please tell me how Dooku could defeat Anakin in AotC or tell me how Obi-Wan managed to defeat Anakin in the end of ROTS.

The ROTS novel is a goddamn altar of Sidious / Anakin fanboyism.
Anakin could not take Dooku on his own if Dooku gives his best. As we've seen two times how easy Dooku can deal with Obi-Wan he is obviously able to kill them both at once and yes - easily.

If you want to go by the novel ROTS Obi-Wan would be able to kill anybody because he can parry / avoid more than 20 lightsaber attacks per second (vs Grievous) and he can destroy 10,000 droids that are in a single hall.

Anakin could not take Dooku alone, Dooku was told to turn Anakin to the dark side, not kill him.

Originally posted by joeyvermont
ok anakin was the chosen one, i agree. But only the jedi masters on the council knew and not even anakin knew himself (its not like the jedi would tell him they would think it would go to his head), it was not common knowledge. Plaegius did create him but he still did not know he was the chosen one, he probably created him because he thought he could be the greatest dark jedi ever due to his count of midchlorians. And the sathiri doesnt exist but is a haox by www.supershadow.com.

Nice theory...

a)
Anakin knew at least that he was the chosen one or something special. Especially in ROTS you can see that. First he tells the Masters that he is more powerful than every of them, later Obi-Wan even calls him the Chosen One. So he did know. And since he told Sidious everything, Sidious also knows it.

b)
Stop that Plagueis stuff. It is not confirmed that Plagueis created him. I'd even say this theory is total BS because of 2 points:

1)
We know that Sidious is Senator for quite a long time during the events in TPM. That means he must have killed his master before joining the Senate (and that is far before Anakins birth).

2)
If Plagueis created Anakin than he would have known that this creation would have become the most powerful force user ever. So why should Plagueis in this situation:
- train Sidious (if he could have had the most powerful apprentice ever)
- let Anakin on Tatooine instead of training him

Same things count for Sidious himself. Why should he have trained Maul if he knew about Anakin before the events in TPM ? A waste of time.

Originally posted by Nai Fohl
Nice theory...

a)
Anakin knew at least that he was the chosen one or something special. Especially in ROTS you can see that. First he tells the Masters that he is more powerful than every of them, later Obi-Wan even calls him the Chosen One. So he did know. And since he told Sidious everything, Sidious also knows it.

b)
Stop that Plagueis stuff. It is not confirmed that Plagueis created him. I'd even say this theory is total BS because of 2 points:

1)
We know that Sidious is Senator for quite a long time during the events in TPM. That means he must have killed his master before joining the Senate (and that is far before Anakins birth).

2)
If Plagueis created Anakin than he would have known that this creation would have become the most powerful force user ever. So why should Plagueis in this situation:
- train Sidious (if he could have had the most powerful apprentice ever)
- let Anakin on Tatooine instead of training him

Same things count for Sidious himself. Why should he have trained Maul if he knew about Anakin before the events in TPM ? A waste of time.

On the point of at least Sidious creating Anakin, I disagree.

It is possible that Anakin was left on Tattooine with his birth mother for a time because there was no way Sidious as a senator could train the boy and maintain his hold over Maul. Now, Maul is much older than Anakin was, and Sidious probably began training him right after Plageus was killed. Maul was trained for obediance and for purpose, whereas Sidious fueled Anakin's individuality and hatred and emotion. They were trained for quite different purposes, really. I think Sidious sees within Anakin (Who is, for the sake of argument, his creation) the same thing as he sees in his empire- his best achievement and creation. I mean, if Sidious was only interested in Anakin because of his potential and NOT because he had some twisted fatherly relation to him, the question remains why did Sidious save Vader on Mustafar?

He could have easily trained another. But he didn't. And Sidious even says to Yoda in almost fatherly glee "Darth Vader shall become more powerful than you or I!" It is as if he is living his ultimate triumph through Vader himself, as parents tend to live their old fantasies through their children in little league.

1)tyranus wrecks obi with ease, he's done so twice including against obi in his prime.

2)Dooku wasn't trying to kill anakin he was trying to turn him so he could usurp sidious's place, he didn't use makashi against anakin and repeatedly refrained from killing/maiming him when he had the chance but he was able to easily kill obi who was in fact more powerful then anakin as shown by them having the same saber moves and their force push having the same power behind it.

Ultimatley dooku's swordsmanship pwns obi's with ease and his offensive arsenal of force techniques/greater power owns him. he could also have mopped the floor with anakin as anakins equally weak but also stupid.

As for sidious creating anakin, I personally beleive it and I'll try to explain to you certain things about it.

1)Sidious couldn't train anakin himself for a couple of reasons

-If he did anyone remotley force sensitive would feel anakins presence right away and investigate what was going on.

-He needed maul to carry out important assasinations for him, anakin was 9 he wasn't exactly badass assasin material.

-He would have to travel to tatooine a lot and that would raise suspicion.

-He had to wait until the clones were ready training anakin before then would present a huge risk and ruin any suprise that was gained by anakins turning.

-By training anakin from infancy he would quickly become powerful enough to usurp the position of dark lord from sidious.

-He wouldn't gain the emotional attachments necessary in order to insure his fall.

-he wouldn't have someone inside the jedi to get him information.

-he wouldn't be able to have someone that could create the CIS and rally systems to his cause.

I have more reasons but the point is training anakin from birth is not a wise descision.

Originally posted by Darth_Janus
It is possible that Anakin was left on Tattooine with his birth mother for a time because there was no way Sidious as a senator could train the boy and maintain his hold over Maul.

Possible. But why he should have trained Maul any further when Anakin was in the age to start his training ? From what we know Jedi were trained from a very young age on - so why leaving your future apprentice on a planet like Tatooine for 9 years and - mention it - as a slave that could be sold or killed anytime ? That would be quite stupid.



Of course Maul and Anakin were quite different. But Sidious seeing Anakin as a son ? No. When you have a look at it Anakin was a tool for Sidious plans, nothing more and there is a logical explanation for saving Vaders life on Mustafar.

Vader lost 60 % of his potential but he still has more potential than anyone else. The Solo children (who might be 25-50 % of Vaders original potential) are still the most powerful force users running around except Luke. See...in the end of ROTS you can see Vader destroying the entire room without even focusing on his force powers.



He could have trained another. But:

a) He had a close relation to Anakin already that has grown for 13 years - why throw that away and start with a new apprentice that would have had (probably) less potential ?

b) Sidious was running out of time pretty much. Who should he have trained ? He killed all the Jedi and younglings so if Vader would have died Sidious would have needed to:
- find somebody worth becoming his apprentice
- train his apprentice for decades

The result would have been a Sith Lord with similar age compared to Luke in the OT - so you can also say that this was dramatic necessity.

full potential vader is pretty much darkside NJO luke but 20% more powerful.

20%...I don't know maybe 50% or somewhere around their.

Tyranus...accomplished Jedi Master, Sith Lord...what more to say? he knows both sides of the force...Kenobi is too young...Dooku has the better lightsaber techniques...

a short duell to fatal end...for lil' Obieeee!!!

dooku will easily beat kenobi, he shows it on two occasions

Well, Nai, back to your post referring to me; I only referenced from the novel because you did. You can't take one piece of information from the novel, (the plot) say it's true, and disregard all the other points.

Obi-Wan. He fighst alot better alone than alongside another Jedi. He beat Vader, who, according to Sidious, is stronger than Tyranus.

Um, no. Vader COULD have become stronger than Dooku, but because of his failure with Kenobi, lost more than half of his full potential. Obi got owned by Dooku twice, and as much as I love him, he's going down, hard.

Originally posted by Darth Faunus
Well, Nai, back to your post referring to me; I only referenced from the novel because you did. You can't take one piece of information from the novel, (the plot) say it's true, and disregard all the other points.

Well...

It can be seen that Dooku is obviously suprised / shocked when Sidious tells Anakin to kill him. That can be seen in the film. It's obvious that Dooku switched style and had not many problems to put Obi-Wan out of the fight. That can be also seen in the film. And where does the film show / tell that he had massive problems with the duo and / or Anakin on his own ?

You assumed that Dooku had problems with Anakins style because that is what the novel tells - and it's stupid. A fighter that relies on precission againt pure strength and is a master of his art would have no problems to parry hits from another swordfighter that relies on sheer strength. That's completely stupid and this is exactly what the novel tells you. And fact is that this can't be seen - neither in AotC nor in ROTS and I don't believe that Anakin god much stronger (in terms of physical strenght) between AotC and ROTS.

Lets see all the facts. A master of the form best blade to blade combat and a jedi knight with swift blade skills. I say the master of MAKASHI (Count Dooku) would block all the move and then use his counter attacks. Dooku would win.

Originally posted by Darth_Janus
And Glentract, I put forth the idea that either PLagueus or his work created Anakin, since it's clearly hinted at in the movie and it makes perfect sense.

I'll have to disagree with your putting forth the idea that Plageus or his work created Anakin.

In Ep.1, Qui Gon clearly states that was created by the will of the force..

2ndly, Plageus was a Sith..Why would he create the "chosen one who is said to destroy the Sith"

And 3rd of all, where in Palpatine's statement does it hint that Plageus created Anakin...?

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
I'll have to disagree with your putting forth the idea that Plageus or his work created Anakin.

In Ep.1, Qui Gon clearly states that was created by the will of the force..

2ndly, Plageus was a Sith..Why would he create the "chosen one who is said to destroy the Sith"

And 3rd of all, where in Palpatine's statement does it hint that Plageus created Anakin...?

1- Qui Gon Jinn is not the expert. He wasn't there when Shmi conceived. He's a bogus source at best.

2- You're reciting the jedi version of a prophecy that is never clarified by its original source and is even doubted by Yoda and Mace.

3- Watch the movie. It was pretty obvious.

Originally posted by Darth_Janus
1- Qui Gon Jinn is not the expert. He wasn't there when Shmi conceived. He's a bogus source at best.

2- You're reciting the jedi version of a prophecy that is never clarified by its original source and is even doubted by Yoda and Mace.

3- Watch the movie. It was pretty obvious.

1st off your wrong in saying Qui Gon was a bogus source because he, of course, as a jedi, has probably, and obviously, im assuming as all Jedi did, read and knew of this prophesy. Im sure they've researched it as deeply and just as thoroughly as only a Jedi can especially Qui Gon with how obsessed he was with Anakin's fate.

2nd, in my opinion, i think what Windu and Yoda said about the prophesy being "misread" was just hot air. The didnt like Anakin, they didnt trust him, and for good reason, and dare i say that there might've been envy?

and 3rd i've watched all 6 films to many times..lol

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=362659&perpage=20&pagenumber=1

Read everything on this thread first and then ask me questions on the prophecy. Qui Gon Jinn is no source, as is any jedi.

Originally posted by Darth_Janus
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=362659&perpage=20&pagenumber=1

Read everything on this thread first and then ask me questions on the prophecy. Qui Gon Jinn is no source, as is any jedi.

your link = and? what do you want me to look at ..?

i saw like 150 things on it

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
your link = and? what do you want me to look at ..?

i saw like 150 things on it

My entire first post, if you've the stomach for it.

Originally posted by Darth_Janus
My entire first post, if you've the stomach for it.

you have a cool dry humor in you, you know that, Janus.

you remind me of a person i use to always have to deal with in here all the time.

you may know him. or not. He goes or went by the name Alpha Centauri...

unless it's you..Anyway, since i have a life, i'll read your thread when the times appropriate.

cool beans?

Ok, this thread should have never been created.

1. Dooku sliced Obi Wan on his shoulder, and then his leg, almost killing the fool. He was ready to slice his ass up, but Anakin saved him only to have his f*cking arm chopped off shortly after.

2. Obi Wan gets owned on Grievous' ship many times while Saber dueling Dooku, and finally get's thrown onto a platform railing, where he shortly after gets a more the four ton platform dropped onto his frail body.


This thread sucks. We all know who wins.
http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/6019/000obithrow9wk1wy.gif

Originally posted by Sorgo
Ok, this thread should have never been created.

1. Dooku sliced Obi Wan on his shoulder, and then his leg, almost killing the fool. He was ready to slice his ass up, but Anakin saved him only to have his f*cking arm chopped off shortly after.

2. Obi Wan gets owned on Grievous' ship many times while Saber dueling Dooku, and finally get's thrown onto a platform railing, where he shortly after gets a more the four ton platform dropped onto his frail body.


This thread sucks. We all know who wins.
http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/6019/000obithrow9wk1wy.gif
yo mama sucks

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
yo mama sucks

Yeah, that's what i thought.

No defense for Pada-Wan Kenobi.

http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/6019/000obithrow9wk1wy.gif
i just wanna watch the video over and over and over and over and over and over tehehehe

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
you have a cool dry humor in you, you know that, Janus.

you remind me of a person i use to always have to deal with in here all the time.

you may know him. or not. He goes or went by the name Alpha Centauri...

unless it's you..Anyway, since i have a life, i'll read your thread when the times appropriate.

cool beans?

No, we're not the same. And when you get a chance, it might change your religion. I'm rather proud of it.

Originally posted by Darth_Janus
And when you get a chance, it might change your religion. I'm rather proud of it.

ROTFLMAO,....ahhhh

i needed that