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you guys are still paying well under a dollar (AU) a liter, we're paying, in your money $3.76 a gallon and its still getting higher by the day. we're getting screwwed, we agree to go to war in Iraq and we dont even get cheaper petrol after we liberated the iraqis from their oil

please don't turn this into a Canadian vs. American thread, those are SO stupid. Canadians complain about things too.. ok? We complain, not "whing"

We pay $2.60 a gallon, thats crazy.

we here in germany pay 1, 20€ for the crappiest fuel..if you calculate it back into US-$..you'll see what an outrage this is

America complaining.
even im complaining about petrol prices and im in Aus and that aint anywhere near america

$1.40 I heard the other day

yeah but then again..you're living in australia..which is the coolest place to be, if ya ask me...we pay a fortune to get there just once in our lifetime...*dreams*

thats more them double of what it used to be
and on top of that we have to pay 2 sets of taxes

Originally posted by RogerRamjet
yeah but then again..you're living in australia..which is the coolest place to be, if ya ask me

Aint it the damn truth smoke

Right now where I am it just hit $3 a gallon for gas.....

i need an econimical car

Screw cars...Im buying an Xwing...

Originally posted by tabby999
you guys are still paying well under a dollar (AU) a liter, we're paying, in your money $3.76 a gallon and its still getting higher by the day. we're getting screwwed, we agree to go to war in Iraq and we dont even get cheaper petrol after we liberated the iraqis from their oil

its $2.60 here

Originally posted by Sir Mist
Screw cars...Im buying an Xwing...
well we cant all get Xwings

Originally posted by Rob Owns You
Under a dollar my ass, its .60 here, and probably going to get higher. And gas effects all prices. Trucks will have to raise their rates because of gas that it takes to import goods, and then the place that recieves the good will have to raise the prices on their products because they have to pay the truck drivers more money so that they get a profit, and its an ongrowing issue. Stupid Iraq bitches, their so damn greedy

Still only $2.60 by you....lucky.....cheapest place in my area is about $2.90 right now. A lot of places have hit $3/gallon.

how much is galion in litres?

A gallon is around 4 litres, I'm not sure exactly.

Originally posted by Lana
A gallon is around 4 litres, I'm not sure exactly.
if that is so then you still paying a lot less the us

Originally posted by Lana
A gallon is around 4 litres, I'm not sure exactly.

Ours is $1.20 per litre...

I'd love to go to Aus, all the reptiles

I've never heard the term 'whinging' before.

Complaining/whining etc etc..

I was being sarcastic

Petrol is expensive, its going to get more and more expensive to the point of insanity, there is nothing we can o about it... NOTHING, unless one of you would like to invade the US. SO whats left to do???? I got it, catch the BUS!

WE could also look into alternative energy. Yes... YOU!!!

In other words, fart in a can, and light for instant heat...

Originally posted by Kosta
Petrol is expensive, its going to get more and more expensive to the point of insanity, there is nothing we can o about it... NOTHING, unless one of you would like to invade the US. SO whats left to do???? I got it, catch the BUS!

Xwings I tells ya! XWINGS!!!!!!


*gets dragged off by men in white coats*



XWIIIIIIIINGS!!!!

I hear ya'!


XWING!!!!!!

I can so see myself rocking up to work in a modded up Xwing

I bet you can.

2.30 a gallon here in texas. my gas guzzling truck, though, eats gas like a fat woman at a buffet.

1.5 euro's (that'll be close to two bucks) per liter over here in belgium, damn taxes

When I was staying in LA, I watched the price go from $2.53 to $2.69 overnight. Damn.

Wow... didn't know it was so bad around the world, how big is a gallon though, my mind works in metric. I thought $1.40 per L in my NZD (which is roughly $1.00 USD) was bad, considering a few years ago it was below $1.00/L my currency.
Originally posted by Kosta
Petrol is expensive, its going to get more and more expensive to the point of insanity, there is nothing we can o about it... NOTHING, unless one of you would like to invade the US. SO whats left to do???? I got it, catch the BUS!
High petrol price isn't just going to affect you at the pump, as transport gets more expensive it will inflate the price of everything else. Current crude oil prices are higher than they should be because of Iran anxiety but at the end of the day it's still governed by basic supply and demand, use less petrol and it will lessen the strain on supply.

With 110 miles per day I drive, I pay $8.50 per day to go to work.

gas is $2.60 per gallon here...........


We American's ***** so much about gas (petrol) prices because the prices are directly dependant upon the cost of oil..........and America is a major oil producing country. All of our shit isn't imported from elsewhere.......which is why prices are so high in non-oil producing parts of the world. Our country has so much oil in reserve it's not funny...........why not break some of those barrels out and lower our gas prices?

funny........

***** is filtered.............yet shit is not. The former is an actual word with a clear definition to be used in several legitimate circumstances (example: discussion about dog breeding or pet ownership). The latter is slang with no valid unoffensive definition.

Americans have no right to complain, Bush does anything he can to increase the price of petrol.

You voted this guy.

Well... technically a quarter of Americans do have the right to complain since they voted against him. A quarter voted for him and the other half didn't bother to vote at all, so they have no right to complain.

true.........I did vote for Bush.

I assure you, it had nothing to do with the cost of gasoline. It was merely a preventative measure to ensure John Kerry would not be in the white house. Atleast Bush flat out tells you his thoughts and ideas about different subjects........most of which I don't agree with but atleast I know where he stands. This is in direct opposition to Kerry's no-stance on anything policy where he hoped the American public would vote him into office without knowing where he stands on any issues. I am a registered Democrat, by the way. Sometimes it's choosing the lesser of two evils.

Gas is about $2.56 here, but I know in Washington D.C., they are moving to Natural gas...They use it now in their buses...Hope it catches on....It's cleaner.

American's "complain" about gas prices because this war was supposed to make those prices go down...instead they have done nothing but go up.

And of course America gets better prices on gas than other, smaller countries. America has more people with personal automobiles than any other country in the world and I'm pretty sure the average American's commute to work is significantly larger than many of those smaller countries.

They buy in a larger quantity and for doing so they get a better price.

you forget that we also produce a lot of oil ourselves so we do not have to buy it all from other countries......



really? I thought the war (that has been over for a long time now) was supposed to dethrone Saddam Hussein as he has been known to use devastating weapons in the past against both his own people and neighboring countries and intelligence reported that he had gained evern more powerful weapons. I thought we still had troops in Iraq to help maintain law and order as Iraq's government is not yet stable enough to do so itself.

Thanks for educating me.

People always say to me "You're 19 and you don't own a car? Wow."

I can get ANYWHERE I want or need to on public transport for a couple of pounds.

It's much much better, and no traffic.

-AC

Problem is that America is a nation of spoiled whinners. All we do is complain, complain and more complain. We are used to living a convienient (sp?) lifestyle of fast food, traveling with our SUV's, and shopping till we drop. When is time to tighten our belts and watch our wallets we begin to moan and whine about things.

I grow more sick and tired of TV news reporters interviewing some wahoo in some local gas station complaining about the high gas prices. Take the friggin bus if you don't want to pay so much. I personally depend on gas to get to work and if I have to pay another buck for gas....I pay it! What other choice I have? Whine like a little *beep*? Hell no, I have to balance my budget and cut back on some things I really don't need (like extra DVD's or a fancy meal in a restaurant) Some Americans don't know how to balance their friggin economy. That is why Credit cards companies continue to report more bankrupcies every year. People just don't know how to balance their financial books.

True its a dollar a liter here Canadian while its only 81 cents a liter in the US. However unlike the US SUV sales have gone almost to nothing here. More people are going to Japanese cars.

I think the assumption is most Americans complain about paying high prices for gas and the truth is, most hard working Americans have to pay whatever price the gas is to get back and forth to work.

If people want to drive SUV's, Cadillac's or whatever, then the person has to pay the price.

Yes, there are alternatives to driving, including carpooling, park and ride, subway systems, and city trains. It isn't a dead end so people do have plenty of options regardless.

The price in NY has hit 3.00 but doesn't include the Indian reservations, where gas is about 2.35 per gallon.

Will people give up traveling, vacations and social driving because of high prices? No way, and that's the truth.

Would people quit smoking when the packs hit $5.00? They sure didn't.

People will pay for what they want. The teens will still cruise in their cars and the hot rodders will still attend their cruise nights...Not much will change.

the public transport argument is a good one, but in my case, not much of an option. i live out of town, the buses dont run anywhere near where i live.
and if out reptilian little scum bag prime minister dropped the second tax (GST of an EXTRA 10%!) off the petrol (which might i add is already taxed before the GST is added on) the prices of petrol would drop substancially. but not while he's busy trying to impress Bush.

siphon first, ask questions last.

Originally posted by WindDancer
Problem is that America is a nation of spoiled whinners. All we do is complain, complain and more complain. We are used to living a convienient (sp?) lifestyle of fast food, traveling with our SUV's, and shopping till we drop. When is time to tighten our belts and watch our wallets we begin to moan and whine about things.

I grow more sick and tired of TV news reporters interviewing some wahoo in some local gas station complaining about the high gas prices. Take the friggin bus if you don't want to pay so much. I personally depend on gas to get to work and if I have to pay another buck for gas....I pay it! What other choice I have? Whine like a little *beep*? Hell no, I have to balance my budget and cut back on some things I really don't need (like extra DVD's or a fancy meal in a restaurant) Some Americans don't know how to balance their friggin economy. That is why Credit cards companies continue to report more bankrupcies every year. People just don't know how to balance their financial books.

I really think thats pretty arogant thinking to assume no other country in the world has SUV's, fast food stores, and shopping malls. As if no other country could ever dream to afford such luxuries things like DVD's! No other country in the world has people rich enough to buy those only we do!

So youre saying if someone doesnt like the way the government is they should just shut up and live with it? I'm sorry I cant agree, if the gas prices are high you should complain about it, you should voice your concerns and try to get your government to try to do something about it.

It's about $3.75 USD per gallon in NZ...

Which is why I hardly use my car these days.

I'm American, I don't complain about gas prices, I did not vote for Bush, I voted against him. Unlike everyone else in this country I do my part to cut down on gas prices, I do not own a car, I use public transportation. If everyone used public transports or carpooled gas prices would plummet.

Originally posted by obiwills
I'm American, I don't complain about gas prices, I did not vote for Bush, I voted against him. Unlike everyone else in this country I do my part to cut down on gas prices, I do not own a car, I use public transportation. If everyone used public transports or carpooled gas prices would plummet.

Not everyone can, though. I have to drive to school everyday, a half hour drive. I can't take public transportation because no train or bus goes even remotely near my school. I can't carpool because none of my friends go to my school. I have no choice but to drive; same with many people.

I'm going to have to side with Homer Simpsons on this subject, public transportation blows.

True, Who honestly wants to take a bus to work?

In Iraq gas is 5 cents a gallon

Sweet, I should go live in Iraq. Oh, wait...

Complaining is a waste of time, but it sucks to have to just grin and bare it.

I ride my bike when I can, but my job often requires me to drive, and also to drive long distances or where 4x4 is required. So I have to buy gas. However, I buy gas from the little mom&pop gas stations in my area.

They often have the cheapest prices (and though I know my money ultimately goes to big corporations) and I'd rather give them my money than the big compnaies, at least directly.

complaints bring about change.
grinning and bearing it assures that things will not change

Originally posted by PVS
complaints bring about change.
grinning and bearing it assures that things will not change

I don't disagree at all. Actually when i comes to standing up and fighting the goood fight I am ussuallynin the front row, but I feel pretty defeated regarding this issue.

It seems that all the common sense in the world doesn't matter here.I also don't have even the remotest faith in the ability of people to unite and do something about it. A few greedy people want more money. They got the oil and the influence and we foot the bill. Sucks, big time.

yeah, saddly i agree

Originally posted by Hegemon875
I really think thats pretty arogant thinking to assume no other country in the world has SUV's, fast food stores, and shopping malls. As if no other country could ever dream to afford such luxuries things like DVD's! No other country in the world has people rich enough to buy those only we do!

So youre saying if someone doesnt like the way the government is they should just shut up and live with it? I'm sorry I cant agree, if the gas prices are high you should complain about it, you should voice your concerns and try to get your government to try to do something about it.

I don't recall saying that the US is the only nation with SUV's and fast food. I do recall saying that we're spoiled with all the luxuries we have. We're a nation of mass comsuption. We buy more and we get indebt more than any other nation. At least that is my observation. Every year the number of people going bankrupt increases. Which points out that we're not responsible in our spending. We don't manage our budget properly or we know how to manage our budgets properly. That doesn't mean we're stupid. It means that we need to take control of our own economy. When gas prices rise we get hit in the wallet. If you're a person that manages his/her own economy you would't be whining about high prices. Sure, it isn't the consumers fault. But, accepting resposibility also helps.

No, you have every right to voice your opinion and you shouldn't be censor. But what do you get really get by whining so much? Nothing but a headache and anger. That's not healthy and good for you. What people need to do is to learn to balance themselves. This means less spending on commodities and stretching your dollars. There really isn't a need to buy, buy, and more buy. Saving may not be easy but people should really watch their money. When we hit hard times you need to be prepare. Borrowing money and abusing credit cards is going to get you into deep trouble. That is what is happening. And we in America really need to learn to watch our money more closely.

There's an easy solution to all of this..when it comes close to election time..make sure you don't vote for Pro Bush Senators, Governors, Representatives..etc..We need to get this a hole out of office, before the US completely goes down the crapper..

I've noticed lately that the hybrid electric/gas cars are becoming increasingly advertised, and especially the 'Synergy' cars, I believe they are called; they are the ones where every time you brake, the friction creates energy which recharges the battery. It's half gas/half electricity as well.

Hopefully--and I think there's a good chance--these types of cars become more and more popular.

I want one, myself. I just can't afford it.

Update! Fuel prices in my town have now hit $1.25 a liter. f*cking ridiculous. hybrid cars are going to be the way of the future, the Swiss have produced a car that can travel the distance of a round the equator trip on only 8 liters of fuel, good on them.

Originally posted by tabby999
Update! Fuel prices in my town have now hit $1.25 a liter. f*cking ridiculous. hybrid cars are going to be the way of the future, the Swiss have produced a car that can travel the distance of a round the equator trip on only 8 liters of fuel, good on them.

Prices at my nearest petrol station have gone up to $1.40. But I live about 20 mins drive from the CBD of Sydney.

yeah come to Norway and fill petrol we have the nice price of $ 6,19 a gallon(us gallon).................(10.60 Norwegian crowns a liter, dollar being 6.5 NOK<-Norwegian crowns abbreviated)

Originally posted by ShapedByWords
In Iraq gas is 5 cents a gallon Greedy Bastards.

I can't imagine gas over 3 dollars a gallon...but 6 as in Norway would kill me....I wouldn't be able to drive anywhere...I'd have to car pool with lots of people....People would probably buy motorcycles.

I remember vaguely, and my parents talk of times when a car could go and go on $20 a week with no trouble. These days it costs almost that much to do ones daily business, here in Australia at least. It's madness, and one of the reasons I have avoided the whole car thing in favour of more economic means of travel (our public transport system is quite good I think). Utter madness I say.

Just last night on the news they were talking about Qantas, the airlines posting excellent profits, but how they were still saying low ticket prices and jobs were still at risk because of rising fuel prices. It ominous when even a persons job security is affected by the old black gold, Texas tea etc

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
I remember vaguely, and my parents talk of times when a car could go and go on $20 a week with no trouble. These days it costs almost that much to do ones daily business, here in Australia at least. It's madness, and one of the reasons I have avoided the whole car thing in favour of more economic means of travel (our public transport system is quite good I think). Utter madness I say.

Just last night on the news they were talking about Qantas, the airlines posting excellent profits, but how they were still saying low ticket prices and jobs were still at risk because of rising fuel prices. It ominous when even a persons job security is affected by the old black gold, Texas tea etc

Depends. The Cityrail service in NSW is absolute crap, and I take it to school every day. And people are taking the car to work now because of the unreliable trains and buses, thus increasing traffic

yeah my old man used to own a valiant and he could drive it for a week on $10. you cant drive to the corner in a Valiant on $10

it was like that here in the U.S. just 10 years ago........

We got a motorcycle. Gets much better gas mileage than the truck. Of course, when it rains, we take the truck, but that hasn't been too often lately. Plus the motorcycle is more fun.

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-11/472715/motorcycle.jpg

What type? I'm looking at a superbike myself.

Originally posted by SlipknoT
I'd love to go to Aus, all the reptiles

most of which kill you in 2 minutes

Originally posted by Gryn Jabar
What type? I'm looking at a superbike myself.

Honda V65 Magna. We are looking at getting another Honda - maybe what you are calling a superbike?

Originally posted by ShapedByWords

In Iraq gas is 5 cents a gallon

Originally posted by SlipknoT
Greedy Bastards.

I don't think it's the iraqi's who are soley to blame in dictating theses ridiculous prices.

further update! petrol has dropped from $123.9 to $119.9 in most petrol stations in town. awsome!