Sion/Malak VS Kreia/Sidious

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Count Dooku
Another match up.

So, who pwns who, boys 'n girlz?

Fishy
Sion would die in seconds against Kreia..

Even Malak could not defeat Sidious that fast... Kreia and Sidious win, if the fight goes like that.

If its Sion vs Sidious and Malak vs Kreia, well then you have two unknowns.

Malak might defeat Kreia if he can use his lightsaber and get close enough, but can he?

Sion might defeat Sidious but I don't know about that either, he probably will. Still the fight between Kreia and Malak would decide everything there is to this fight, Sion would not stand a chance against Kreia no matter how much he would want to. His will would be destroyed and Kreia would probably push him on his knees with just one attack. Or even wore pull his body apart.

Count Dooku
Originally posted by Fishy
Sion would die in seconds against Kreia..

Even Malak could not defeat Sidious that fast... Kreia and Sidious win, if the fight goes like that.

If its Sion vs Sidious and Malak vs Kreia, well then you have two unknowns.

Malak might defeat Kreia if he can use his lightsaber and get close enough, but can he?

Sion might defeat Sidious but I don't know about that either, he probably will. Still the fight between Kreia and Malak would decide everything there is to this fight, Sion would not stand a chance against Kreia no matter how much he would want to. His will would be destroyed and Kreia would probably push him on his knees with just one attack. Or even wore pull his body apart.


Sion would die in seconds against the guy that threw her up against a wall, kneed her in the stomach, decked her in the face and chucked her on the ground is just gonna all of the sudden ruin Sion? Just because Kreia has good persuasion doesn't mean Sion will listen to the shit she says. Be mindful.

darthrevan89
Originally posted by Count Dooku
Sion would die in seconds against the guy that threw her up against a wall, kneed her in the stomach, decked her in the face and chucked her on the ground is just gonna all of the sudden ruin Sion? Just because Kreia has good persuasion doesn't mean Sion will listen to the shit she says. Be mindful.

He has a good point.

Darth_Frobo
malak>sidious for reasons discussed in the past.
nhilus is the only reason sion could touch kreia, he killed himself when he figured out that she didn't like him for crying out loud he was totally subservient sion=pwned

kreia then loses to malak in a long and kickass saber fight or wrecks him with force powers.

Darth_Janus
Kreia did dominate Sion quite easily when she returned. She has some hold over him, and it was enough to make him want to die for her affection... hm.

But anyways, Kreia can instakill three jedi masters at once. Malak probably has never heard of such a thing (Or else he would have tried to use it) and Sion has no defense against that.

Fishy
Originally posted by Redeemer
Sion would die in seconds against the guy that threw her up against a wall, kneed her in the stomach, decked her in the face and chucked her on the ground is just gonna all of the sudden ruin Sion? Just because Kreia has good persuasion doesn't mean Sion will listen to the shit she says. Be mindful.

After Nihilus already knocked him out, Sion did nothing but beat a already defeated woman. Kreia dominated him when she returned so much that he would die for her. He would not stand a chance in a fair fight against her, she would own him.

Emperor Revan
Kreia pwns Malak, Sidious pwns Sion, IMO.

Darth_Glentract
Sion and Kreia are about equal with Kreia being slightly ahead. Malak would beat Sidious and then help kill Kreia.

Itr could also go, Kreia and Malak fight, Malak wins after a long fight. Palpatine and Sion fight, but Malak kills Sidious before anything happens.

Gryn Jabar
Your argument rests on a false assumption. Kreia>Sion>>>Malak.

Darth_Janus
Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
Sion and Kreia are about equal with Kreia being slightly ahead. Malak would beat Sidious and then help kill Kreia.

Itr could also go, Kreia and Malak fight, Malak wins after a long fight. Palpatine and Sion fight, but Malak kills Sidious before anything happens.

No, actually the false assumption is this

Kreia = ~Sion

There's nothing to indicate that they are anywhere near one another in power, and actually everything indicates that Darth Traya in her dark power is much stonger.

Emperor Revan
Janus is right, Sion's not anywhere close to Kreia's power, not in knowledge, Force powers, or even probably lightsaber combat. He needed Nihilus' help to beat her the first time and the second time he licked her boots the moment she got back even though earlier he wanted to kill her. Kreia's considerably more powerful than Sion.

Darth_Janus
Definately. And her greatest strength lies in deception.

Emperor Revan
That reminds me, she's also considerably smarter than Sion, again making her far deadlier.

Did anyone else wish they could kill Kreia early in the game, even the first time through?

Darth_Janus
No. But if you give Kreia good stats throughout the game, and particularly, if you level up to around 40 or 50, and you level her up accordingly while she's still in party, she will WHUP your ass, I swear.

Darth Somebody
So who is fighting against who? Malak against Sidious or Malak against Kreia?

Gryn Jabar
You chose the combos that will work in your favor. But what if Sion sings "Panama" and distracts Kreia?

Emperor Revan
If Sion starts singing Kreia doesn't stand a chance, but does he know the words?

Gryn Jabar

Emperor Revan
Yeah but Sion doesn't strike me as a genius, I mean, he spends all his time meditating. But then again... that might be him memorizing the words as a secret weapon...

Gryn Jabar
Actually, Darth Vader VH, it was back to the future.

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