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Seriously

apparently

well, when someone posts a thread about women, another person reads it, and starts a thread about women since thats whats on their mind from reading the first thread. then they make a thread like, oh, "is it anti-women morning on KMC?" for example...

No, I posted this because there is more than one doing "veiled" bashing on women.

i guess so.

women need to be taught a stern lesson

Originally posted by Snoopbert
Seriously
I think it is

Originally posted by Snoopbert
Seriously

Sure seems that way.

Can I kick some asses?

Originally posted by Snoopbert
No, I posted this because there is more than one doing "veiled" bashing on women.

if you discriminate sexually, even if its for a good cause, youre still discriminating. and as long as theres that discrimination, sexism can exist, so you have indirectly become the enemy you thought you were fighting...

well then they should make stuff about men if they can think of any besides being lazy

Originally posted by EsteemedLeader
if you discriminate sexually, even if its for a good cause, youre still discriminating. and as long as theres that discrimination, sexism can exist, so you have indirectly become the enemy you thought you were fighting...

He's saying that all the veiled bashing is bullshit.

I replied to Pimp's thread, but i doubt anyone will read all my crap

~wickerman~

Originally posted by Lana
He's saying that all the veiled bashing is bullshit.

what the hell did you just say?

Originally posted by EsteemedLeader
if you discriminate sexually, even if its for a good cause, youre still discriminating. and as long as theres that discrimination, sexism can exist, so you have indirectly become the enemy you thought you were fighting...

This isn't discrimination you ignoramus. This is a thread asking the question if it is "Anti-women" morning on KMC. In an indirect way, you've only proven the only thing you're capable of is manipulation. Don't come back unless you have something intelligent to add.

Originally posted by EsteemedLeader
what the hell did you just say?

*sighs*

Okay.

Snoopbert's point with this thread, I believe, is that all the veiled bashing that's going on today is bullshit.

Understand that?

Originally posted by Deano
listen to me marco van der haag, i underestimate no one

Marco van der Haag?

Originally posted by Otaku
Marco van der Haag?

i made that name up

so what is your real name?

Originally posted by Lana
*sighs*

Okay.

Snoopbert's point with this thread, I believe, is that all the veiled bashing that's going on today is bullshit.

Understand that?

You are correct.

Originally posted by Deano
i made that name up

so what is your real name?

Nicola (Nick) Vermeeghen.

Originally posted by Otaku
Nicola (Nick) Vermeeghen.

Nick the Dick droolio

~wickerman~

Originally posted by Snoopbert
This isn't discrimination you ignoramus. This is a thread asking the question if it is "Anti-women" morning on KMC. In an indirect way, you've only proven the only thing you're capable of is manipulation. Don't come back unless you have something intelligent to add.

i see what the problem is, you think when i say discrimination, i mean anger or hate against. when i say discriminate, i mean "single out" women. that leads to sexism, as you should know...

Originally posted by Otaku
Nicola (Nick) Vermeeghen.
nice to meet you saint nick

Originally posted by EsteemedLeader
i see what the problem is, you think when i say discrimination, i mean anger or hate against. when i say discriminate, i mean "single out" women. that leads to sexism, as you should know...

And Snoopbert's NOT singling out women.

He's saying that there are several threads that have been started today that do just that.

....do you even know what you're talking about?

Originally posted by EsteemedLeader
i see what the problem is, you think when i say discrimination, i mean anger or hate against. when i say discriminate, i mean "single out" women. that leads to sexism, as you should know...

Do you even know what you're talking about? You said discrimination:

Originally posted by EsteemedLeader
if you discriminate sexually, even if its for a good cause, youre still discriminating. and as long as theres that discrimination, sexism can exist, so you have indirectly become the enemy you thought you were fighting...

do you see the word "women" in the title of the thread? that is singling them out...

Originally posted by Wickerman
Nick the Dick droolio

~wickerman~ Originally posted by Deano
nice to meet you saint nick

Very original.

Originally posted by Lana
He's saying that all the veiled bashing is bullshit. yes

Originally posted by EsteemedLeader
do you see the word "women" in the title of the thread? that is singling them out...

Originally posted by EsteemedLeader
do you see the word "women" in the title of the thread? that is singling them out...

OMG.

*bangs head off keyboard*

He's making a point that there are a lot of threads that have been made today that are singling out women and aren't necessarily very nice to us.

How is making a thread pointing out this fact 'singling out' women?

It's not.

Originally posted by Snoopbert
Do you even know what you're talking about? You said discrimination:

do you notice how i said "even if its for a good cause". by this i mean places where women or men are givien special treatment based on sex. like how women cant be accused of rape, but men can. or how men used to have full control over the house and home...

Originally posted by Otaku
Very original.

Find something similar for Vladimir and you're my new babeh eyes

~wickerman~

Originally posted by EsteemedLeader
do you see the word "women" in the title of the thread? that is singling them out... That's a title. Do you not see the words "Is it Anti-" before it? THat means there's a pre-established question about why there are so many KMC Threads dedicated to the sole purpose of female bashing. Deal with it. You're only proving yourself a retard to the forums. So stop.

Originally posted by Snoopbert
Do you even know what you're talking about? You said discrimination:
i know what he's talking about does that mean im smarter than you lol

Originally posted by EsteemedLeader
do you notice how i said "even if its for a good cause". by this i mean places where women or men are givien special treatment based on sex. like how women cant be accused of rape, but men can. or how men used to have full control over the house and home... See? I did to you, what you are doing to the title of the thread. Thanks for letting me prove my point. Now, out.

Originally posted by Family_guy725
i know what he's talking about does that mean im smarter than you lol Obviously not, as that was directed at EL.

Originally posted by Lana
OMG.

*bangs head off keyboard*

He's making a point that there are a lot of threads that have been made today that are singling out women and aren't necessarily very nice to us.

How is making a thread pointing out this fact 'singling out' women?

It's not.


Some people just don't get it

Originally posted by Lana
OMG.

*bangs head off keyboard*

He's making a point that there are a lot of threads that have been made today that are singling out women and aren't necessarily very nice to us.

How is making a thread pointing out this fact 'singling out' women?

It's not.
It shouldn't be so difficult to get that....

Originally posted by Lana
OMG.

*bangs head off keyboard*

He's making a point that there are a lot of threads that have been made today that are singling out women and aren't necessarily very nice to us.

How is making a thread pointing out this fact 'singling out' women?

It's not.

im slightly more frustrated than you are.

if the threads are discriminating, that doesnt mean its right to make a thread that talks specifically about one gender, even if your talking about...

wait, i know how to word this:
remember that saying "justice is blind"? well if you truly werent corrupted by sexual discrimination, you wouldnt have seen the spotlight on women, you just would have seen conversation about a topic you dont like, but no, another thread was started...and this will lead to another thread about women...this cycle makes sexism possible.

Originally posted by EsteemedLeader
im slightly more frustrated than you are.

if the threads are discriminating, that doesnt mean its right to make a thread that talks specifically about one gender, even if your talking about...

wait, i know how to word this:
remember that saying "justice is blind"? well if you truly werent corrupted by sexual discrimination, you wouldnt have seen the spotlight on women, you just would have seen conversation about a topic you dont like, but no, another thread was started...and this will lead to another thread about women...this cycle makes sexism possible.

Except he's refering to the content and nature of the threads, not their titles.

~wickerman~

You have absolutely no clue what you're talking about. I'm putting you on the ignore list.

God....people...all...take a chill pill (what a funny phrase) ...anyways...do it....

Originally posted by Snoopbert
You have absolutely no clue what you're talking about. I'm putting you on the ignore list.

I'm sorry cry

~wickerman~

Originally posted by Wickerman
Except he's refering to the content and nature of the threads, not their titles.

~wickerman~

i just cant get my point across. you people dont unders-, no, REFUSE to understand, what im trying to say...

Originally posted by Bardock42
God....people...all...take a chill pill (what a funny phrase) ...anyways...do it....

yes, lets get our heads back...

Originally posted by Bardock42
God....people...all...take a chill pill (what a funny phrase) ...anyways...do it....

i want patent pending in your post.You stole that phrase from ME .

Originally posted by EsteemedLeader
i just cant get my point across. you people dont unders-, no, REFUSE to understand, what im trying to say...
I get what you're saying.... except it has nothing to do with this thread that Snoop started...

Originally posted by EsteemedLeader
i just cant get my point across. you people dont unders-, no, REFUSE to understand, what im trying to say...
i think i know what your saying

Originally posted by Otaku
i want patent pending in your post.You stole that phrase from ME .
I stole it from Arny in a really really bad movie.....


Anyways...I dot see it...I see three thread in the OTF aboot women

"Girls and Girly men" (Hardly Anti Women)
"Why do Women Complain...." (Well i guess could be against women although...come on guysd...if that's not typical OTF stuff....
"What if Girls would rule the world" (In no way Anti female now is it?)

Originally posted by Wickerman
I'm sorry cry

~wickerman~ Esteemed Leader

i think i know how to put it now. if you look at this picture, the word that comes to mind should be "person", not "woman"...

http://www.oceansidegallery.com/photos/Brown/Woman%20in%20Black%20Dress.jpg

From now on, according to Esteemed lEader, there are no genders.

Originally posted by EsteemedLeader
i think i know how to put it now. if you look at this picture, the word that comes to mind should be "person", not "woman"...

http://www.oceansidegallery.com/photos/Brown/Woman%20in%20Black%20Dress.jpg

Originally posted by Snoopbert
From now on, according to Esteemed lEader, there are no genders.

not the point. "person" should come to mind before "woman" does...

Originally posted by Snoopbert
Esteemed Leader

I know, i'm not daft. I just felt like saying "I'm sorry" , and you provided me with an opportunity.
I may be considered just a slight bit insane though

~wickerman~

Originally posted by Wickerman
I'm sorry cry

~wickerman~
see now thats messed up your saying crap about other people then you criticise others yeah that makes alot of sense

Originally posted by EsteemedLeader
not the point. "person" should come to mind before "woman" does...
Uhhhhhhhh WHY? It IS a woman, so therefore shouldn't you think woman????

Originally posted by Coldfire
Uhhhhhhhh WHY? It IS a woman, so therefore shouldn't you think woman????

but how do you know its a woman?

Originally posted by Family_guy725
see now thats messed up your saying crap about other people then you criticise others yeah that makes alot of sense
He's not saying crap about anybody

Originally posted by EsteemedLeader
but how do you know its a woman?
oh now thats disturbing *pukes*

Originally posted by Wickerman
I know, i'm not daft. I just felt like saying "I'm sorry" , and you provided me with an opportunity.
I may be considered just a slight bit insane though

~wickerman~

what is the thing that comes to mind when you see this pic? man or woman?

http://y-mayumi.jp/img/cover.img.jpg

Originally posted by Family_guy725
see now thats messed up your saying crap about other people then you criticise others yeah that makes alot of sense

Perhaps you're misquoting??? i don't remember saying crap about "other people" .....maybe you'd like to point out that "crap"

~wickerman~

Originally posted by EsteemedLeader
what is the thing that comes to mind when you see this pic? man or woman?

http://y-mayumi.jp/img/cover.img.jpg
Well thisn person obviously dresses Femalish.....

Originally posted by EsteemedLeader
not the point. "person" should come to mind before "woman" does... i dunno man thats kinda odd if i see a pic of pamela anderson or johnny depp first thing thats coming to mind is woman lol just kidding about pamela first word is not a decent one

Originally posted by EsteemedLeader
what is the thing that comes to mind when you see this pic? man or woman?

http://y-mayumi.jp/img/cover.img.jpg
This person is a transvestite.


Ceterum censeo OTF esse delendam.

Originally posted by Wickerman
Perhaps you're misquoting??? i don't remember saying crap about "other people" .....maybe you'd like to point out that "crap"

~wickerman~
no i wasnt talking about you

Originally posted by Bardock42
Well thisn person obviously dresses Femalish.....

so whats your answer?

Originally posted by EsteemedLeader
so whats your answer?
that either way she should be considered female cause she wants to be........I don't think she was born Female though....

Originally posted by Family_guy725
no i wasnt talking about you

Didn't think so. Careful with that quote button though. People might not be understanding

~wickerman~

Originally posted by EsteemedLeader
but how do you know its a woman?
OMFG I can't believe we're having this discussion.......

I'd still like to know how soeone beliefs this to bhe a rther anti women day?......can't really see it....

Originally posted by Bardock42
that either way she should be considered female cause she wants to be........I don't think she was born Feale though....

She? thats a man... do you see how you automatically thought female? dont you think men are entitled to wear dresses? does that mean if you saw a little dyke girl wearing pants youd think she was a boy?...

Originally posted by EsteemedLeader
She? thats a man... do you see how you automatically thought female?
No.
Originally posted by Storm
This person is a transvestite.


Ceterum censeo OTF esse delendam.

Originally posted by Storm
No.

what no? i wasnt talking to you...

I' m aware of the fact that you' re being selective to prove a point.


Ceterum censeo OTF esse delendam.

Originally posted by EsteemedLeader
She? thats a man... do you see how you automatically thought female? dont you think men are entitled to wear dresses? does that mean if you saw a little dyke girl wearing pants youd think she was a boy?...

No, as I said in my post I belief her to be born as a man...I would call her she though because she obviously choses to be a female so that is fine with me.....just read my post again....

Originally posted by Bardock42
that either way she should be considered female cause she wants to be........I don't think she was born Feale though....

Originally posted by Wickerman
Didn't think so. Careful with that quote button though. People might not be understanding

~wickerman~
im sorry we cool?

Originally posted by Bardock42
No, as I said in my post I belief her to be born as a man...I would call her she though because she obviously choses to be a female so that is fine with me.....just read my post again....

you are a textbook example of people i cant stand...

Originally posted by EsteemedLeader
She? thats a man... do you see how you automatically thought female? dont you think men are entitled to wear dresses? does that mean if you saw a little dyke girl wearing pants youd think she was a boy?...
Anybody can wear whatever the hell they want...

Originally posted by Coldfire
Anybody can wear whatever the hell they want...


Yup

Originally posted by EsteemedLeader
you are a textbook example of people i cant stand...
Why? ...Cause I think people have a right to chose what they want to be and I am not the one to talk the iontop that?

Originally posted by Coldfire
Anybody can wear whatever the hell they want...

exactly. i just think its wrong to assume that people that wear dresses are women and people that wear suits are men. even the smallest, most backed up belief, leads to discrimination:

"women wear dresses" is wrong

"women are the childbearers and should take care of the children" is wrong

"men should work and bring home the bacon" is wrong

even "girls like dolls and pink" is wrong...

Originally posted by EsteemedLeader
exactly. i just think its wrong to assume that people that wear dresses are women and people that wear suits are men. even the smallest, most backed up belief, leads to discrimination:

"women wear dresses" is wrong

"women are the childbearers and should take care of the children" is wrong

"men should work and bring home the bacon" is wrong

even "girls like dolls and pink" is wrong...

It's not discrimination.....the opposite is....if you constantly remind a an that wants to be a woman that he's male....then that is not only a bastard thing to do but also discrimination....

With the Next Four things I agree....except that the Women actually are the Childbearers

Originally posted by Bardock42
Why? ...Cause I think people have a right to chose what they want to be and I am not the one to talk the iontop that?

the right to choose is the point im trying to make...

when you think about it, a transvestite can not exist. if it is a man that dresses like a woman, thats not possible. because he is man, and how he dresses, can only be how a man dresses, since he is a man and that is how he dresses. its all a case of counterexamples. if 99 girls wear pink, and one guy does, that one guy makes the point that pink is not only for girls...

Originally posted by Bardock42
It's not discrimination.....the opposite is....if you constantly remind a an that wants to be a woman that he's male....then that is not only a bastard thing to do but also discrimination....

With the Next Four things I agree....except that the Women actually are the Childbearers

i didnt remind him, i told you, duh.

and i know they are the childbearers, the point was that thinking for that reason they should take care of the kids is wrong...

Never thought of it like that before

Originally posted by vaya_the_elf
Never thought of it like that before

are you talking about my example? because ive been trying to tell that to people for years, and no one understands me...

About the transvestite thing

Originally posted by vaya_the_elf
About the transvestite thing

so thats a yes?

Originally posted by EsteemedLeader
i didnt remind him, i told you, duh.

and i know they are the childbearers, the point was that thinking for that reason they should take care of the kids is wrong...

Yes but it was rather obvious.....and it is clear that there are men that want to be women.......and I think that should be accepted and people should accept MAle Transvestites as Females and te other way around.....

And I knwo that...that's why I agreed...but added that ....a **** it...whatever....

Originally posted by EsteemedLeader
the right to choose is the point im trying to make...

when you think about it, a transvestite can not exist. if it is a man that dresses like a woman, thats not possible. because he is man, and how he dresses, can only be how a man dresses, since he is a man and that is how he dresses. its all a case of counterexamples. if 99 girls wear pink, and one guy does, that one guy makes the point that pink is not only for girls...

Yes there can't be transvestites that way...but there can be transsexuals........and that's what I am talking here aboot....

I think so

Originally posted by EsteemedLeader
exactly. i just think its wrong to assume that people that wear dresses are women and people that wear suits are men. even the smallest, most backed up belief, leads to discrimination:

"women wear dresses" is wrong

"women are the childbearers and should take care of the children" is wrong

"men should work and bring home the bacon" is wrong

even "girls like dolls and pink" is wrong...
Discrimination occurs when men are given more favorable treatment than women.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yes but it was rather obvious.....and it is clear that there are men that want to be women.

they dont want to be women, THEY WANT TO BE MEN WHO WEAR DRESSES!!! they arent doing it to be women, they do it...oh never f***ing mind, you wont listen anyway...

Originally posted by Storm
Discrimination occurs when men are given more favorable treatment than women.

or vice versa. dont forget the vice versa...

Originally posted by Storm
Discrimination occurs when men are given more favorable treatment than women.

I agree, and it makes it easier for them

Originally posted by Storm
Discrimination occurs when men are given more favorable treatment than women.
Or women more than men.........

Originally posted by vaya_the_elf
I agree, and it makes it easier for them

yes, but it doesnt just happen for men...

for example, i think the phrase "never hit a lady" is wrong. not like im going to go out and smack every woman i see, but its the REASON thats wrong. dont hit just because shes a woman? and dont give me any of the "but women are more fragile than men" arguments, because thats sexist...

Originally posted by EsteemedLeader
they dont want to be women, THEY WANT TO BE MEN WHO WEAR DRESSES!!! they arent doing it to be women, they do it...oh never f***ing mind, you wont listen anyway...


Look dude..there are two things..:Transvestites (like to wear what is widely regarded as Womens Cloth) and Transexuals (who want to be women cause they feel that they are not men) ...... I know some aboot that...I am not all that retarded....

Originally posted by EsteemedLeader
or vice versa. dont forget the vice versa...

Exactly.....

Originally posted by EsteemedLeader
yes, but it doesnt just happen for men...

for example, i think the phrase "never hit a lady" is wrong. not like im going to go out and smack every woman i see, but its the REASON thats wrong. dont hit just because shes a woman? and dont give me any of the "but women are more fragile than men" arguments, because thats sexist... Exactly, it should be never hit a Human (or anything)

Originally posted by EsteemedLeader
yes, but it doesnt just happen for men...

for example, i think the phrase "never hit a lady" is wrong. not like im going to go out and smack every woman i see, but its the REASON thats wrong. dont hit just because shes a woman? and dont give me any of the "but women are more fragile than men" arguments, because thats sexist...

I agree, but I don't think its right if guys hit the girl first. It should be in self defense

Originally posted by EsteemedLeader
exactly. i just think its wrong to assume that people that wear dresses are women and people that wear suits are men. even the smallest, most backed up belief, leads to discrimination:

"women wear dresses" is wrong

"women are the childbearers and should take care of the children" is wrong

"men should work and bring home the bacon" is wrong

even "girls like dolls and pink" is wrong...
Imo, those examples don' t lead to discrimination.

Originally posted by Storm
Imo, those examples don' t lead to discrimination.

It's Artifically created differences (not all) but it can lead, put together with other stuff, to discrimination....

Originally posted by Bardock42
Look dude..there are two things..:Transvestites (like to wear what is widely regarded as Womens Cloth) and Transexuals (who want to be women cause they feel that they are not men) ...... I know some aboot that...I am not all that retarded...

so, i guess the problem is the view of a woman by society...if society deams this stuff as "feminine" or "masculine"...so there can only be a transvetite in the view of SOCIETY...

Originally posted by vaya_the_elf
I agree, but I don't think its right if guys hit the girl first. It should be in self defense

Still Double standard...sorry......sexist....

Originally posted by EsteemedLeader
so, i guess the problem is the view of a woman by society...if society deams this stuff as "feminine" or "masculine"...so there can only be a transvetite in the view of SOCIETY...

Not really no...there is a big difference between those two....

Originally posted by Bardock42
Still Double standard...sorry......sexist....

indeed. now we are starting to agree...

Originally posted by Bardock42
Not really no...there is a big difference between those two....

and what would that be?

Well I don't think it's right that anyone should hit anyone at anytime. Unless its for self defense

There is that better

Originally posted by EsteemedLeader
indeed. now we are starting to agree...
Yes...but you know you can take equality and Political Correctness to far....,

Originally posted by vaya_the_elf
Well I don't think it's right that anyone should hit anyone at anytime. Unless its for self defense

Yes...that's better......

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yes...that's better......

Originally posted by EsteemedLeader
and what would that be?

One just likes to wear girls dresses.....the other wants to be a Women...you have to see the difference....

I don't see anything wrong with guys wearing dresses if they want. As long as both men/woman cover personal areas.

im not talking about transexuals. they do want to be women, transvestites just want to dress their own way...i agree about transexuals wanting to be women, but they are also discriminating...

Originally posted by vaya_the_elf
I don't see anything wrong with guys wearing dresses if they want. As long as both men/woman cover personal areas.
Well...actually I dont see how that's a big thing...but ok......as long as it's equal....

Originally posted by EsteemedLeader
im not talking about transexuals. they do want to be women, transvestites just want to dress their own way...i agree about transexuals wanting to be women, but they are also discriminating...

What?...you mean they are also discriminated.......right?

Originally posted by vaya_the_elf

Hello Coldfire

Originally posted by Bardock42
What?...you mean they are also discriminated.......right?

they discriminate themselves for wanting to be the opposite sex. but this is an internal conflict, i dont think it counts since there is only one party involved...

Originally posted by EsteemedLeader
they discriminate themselves for wanting to be the opposite sex. but this is an internal conflict, i dont think it counts since there is only one party involved...

How do you call that discriminating..........sorry that doesn't sound right....

Originally posted by Bardock42
How do you call that discriminating..........sorry that doesn't sound right....

it sounds weird, but i guess they are putting down their current gender for thought that the opposite would be better...

lets drop this however, and get back to,...whatever we were talking about...

Originally posted by EsteemedLeader
it sounds weird, but i guess they are putting down their current gender for thought that the opposite would be better...

lets drop this however, and get back to,...whatever we were talking about...

Ok I don't agree cause I think it's not that say dislike Males, just that they are not ....... anyways....lets drop it...

Originally posted by Bardock42
Ok I don't agree cause I think it's not that say dislike Males, just that they are not ....... anyways....lets drop it...

yes, i must log off and bathe my puppy anyway...

Aww

Ok, the whole "It's discrimination to think a person wearing a dress and make-up is a woman" is crap.
It's not even clicheed. It's simply accepting what the majority accepts. It's like saying "just because that guy's wearing a priest's collar doesn't MEAN he's a priest, and if your initial opinion is that he's a priest then you're discriminating him". yeah, an extreme example, but that's basically what you're saying.
We're used to seeing women wear a dress, you see someone wear a dress, you automatically think it's a woman. it's the freekin pavlovian reaction.

If the point you were making was that it's discrimination to consider "men wearing dresses" as wrong, or out of place, then i can agree with that, but that's not what's coming out of your posts.

~wickerman~

Here's something completely random that I.... "found"




http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/460/youregay3tc7rm2sr.gif

I see no woman bashing here.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I see no woman bashing here.

Indeed....that's why I don't understand this thread either.......

in fact, i think women are superior to men.