Street Level Tourney: Drafting - Round 2

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DigiMark007
Here it is boys. Impress me.

Once again, the rules...

1. PM me with your pick, don't post it here.

2. Stay within the limits for the tourney. I'll post them below.

3. Only one pick. Don't give me "I want Spider-Man and if he's taken I want Slade, and if he's taken..."

4. Provide a link to an online profile/bio of the person that establishes that they are within the limits.

5. Switching characters from earlier rounds is allowed, but send a seperate PM to inform me of this, and provide the link to your new pick.

Good luck...have fun.

DigiMark007

DigiMark007
Scarlet Spider has been chosen.

http://www.samruby.com/Heroes/ScarletSpider/scarletspider.htm

DigiMark007
Snake Eyes has been chosen.

http://www.yojoe.com/filecard/05/snakeeyes23.shtml

DigiMark007
Taskmaster has been selected.

http://www.geocities.com/marvel_villains/taskmaster/taskmaster.html

DigiMark007
Scorpion has been chosen.

http://www.spiderfan.org/characters/scorpion.html

DigiMark007
Bruce Lee has been chosen.

http://www.allbrucelee.com/biography.htm
http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~chenj/brucelee/brucelee.html

DigiMark007
Squirrel Girl has been picked.

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/sqlgrl.htm

Laminator_X
*edit*

Scoobless
lol @ squirrel girl

laughing

DigiMark007
Vanth Dreadstar has been selected.

http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/d/dredstar.htm

The bio isn't perfect but the person told me that the "magic" sword enhances his strength 10x over, can absorb most energy attacks and redirect them, and increase his healing slightly (but still nowhere near Wolverine level). He also wields a low-level laser gun. Technically the sword is magic, but unless anyone has a huge problem with it he seems ok. He's still vulnerable to piercing and punches, and otherwise he's not terribly powerful.

long pig
Monkey joe!!!

Was that a serious pick? I mean, she DID beat Doom.

Scoobless
Monkey Joe is dead

sad

jinzin
squirrel girl................................





























What the f**k?


























BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHA laughing out loud

DigiMark007
Harry Leland has been chosen

http://www.mutanthigh.com/leland.html

I initially questioned this pick, but I was told that he can make people slightly more dense so it's harder for them to fully use their movement, and make them lighter so that they lose their footing and whatnot. Nothing too omnipotent like immobilizing them or making them float away.

DigiMark007
Squirrel girl doesn't seem entirely stupid...looks like a half decent power set (though I'm sure there's better people). I can't wait to see if that person randomly draws a forest for a battle and summons armies of squirrels to aid in the fight.

Scoobless
Originally posted by Laminator_X
*edit*

lol

laughing out loud

DigiMark007
War Lord of Darkness (from Super Nintendo's "War - Call From Above"wink has been picked.

http://www.freewebs.com/thebestgamebios/index.htm

jinzin
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Squirrel girl doesn't seem entirely stupid...looks like a half decent power set (though I'm sure there's better people). I can't wait to see if that person randomly draws a forest for a battle and summons armies of squirrels to aid in the fight.

laughing out loud







hahahahahaha squirrel girl hahahahahahaha

rolling on floor laughing

Laminator_X
Originally posted by Laminator_X
*edit*

Sorry, that was snarky of me.

jinzin
wow..this draft is gettin some REALLY generic pics...

DigiMark007
Iron Fist has been picked.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Fist

DigiMark007
http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/i/ironfist.htm

Marvel's bio for Iron Fist...when possible, try to avoid Wikipedia (although I know it's a good site sometimes).

DigiMark007
1. Scarlet Spider
2. Snake Eyes
3. Taskmaster
4. Scorpion
5. Bruce Lee
6. Squirrel Girl
7. Vanth Dreadstar
8. Harold Leland
9. War Lord of Darkness
10. Iron Fist

...quite a lot of picks in the early going.

Khellendros
Goddamn oversleeping....

Khellendros
Err, you WILL take Wiki sites though, right? Because for my third I'm still trying to decide beween a few guys, most of whom I only found decent bios for on Wiki.

DigiMark007
Yeah, Wiki's fine...just don't fudge stuff (since I know you can edit them) since someone will probably know...otherwise, if that's your only option, it's fine.

Scoobless
still laughing @ Squirrel Girl

Khellendros
Originally posted by Scoobless
still laughing @ Squirrel Girl
How DID she beat Doom anyways? I've heard she did it but not how or anything.

Scoobless
i really have no idea

DigiMark007
Blink has been picked.

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/characters/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=1497

No ring-out wins will be allowed with her, since she can sometimes teleport people pretty far away.

Whirlysplatt
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Vanth Dreadstar has been selected.

http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/d/dredstar.htm

The bio isn't perfect but the person told me that the "magic" sword enhances his strength 10x over, can absorb most energy attacks and redirect them, and increase his healing slightly (but still nowhere near Wolverine level). He also wields a low-level laser gun. Technically the sword is magic, but unless anyone has a huge problem with it he seems ok. He's still vulnerable to piercing and punches, and otherwise he's not terribly powerful.

Dreadstar is cool smile good choice imo

Scoobless
can't Blink cut people in half with teleportation? or am i thinking of someone else?

Khellendros
Originally posted by Scoobless
can't Blink cut people in half with teleportation? or am i thinking of someone else?
She can f*ck someone up if she hits them with one of her throwing thingies, but the same can be said of a guy with a gun couldn't it?

Whirlysplatt
Originally posted by Scoobless
can't Blink cut people in half with teleportation? or am i thinking of someone else?

No thats him, the biggest problem for street level is Vanth can access a higher power and destroy Galaxies, his a Jim Stalin cosmic character from Epic and later First and then Marvel comics. Whats he doing in a street tourney?

Oh you mean blink from Exiles she's equally over powered laughing out loud

DigiMark007
Yeah, she seems like she might be pushing it, but there isn't much precedent for her teleporting/molecule displacement thingies. They hurt...we know that, but probably not any more than a bullet, arrow, lightsaber, etc.

Might have to establish limits for a few of these people (Leland and Blink possibly) but they should be fine.

DigiMark007
Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
No thats him, the biggest problem for street level is Vanth can access a higher power and destroy Galaxies, his a Jim Stalin cosmic character from Epic and later First and then Marvel comics. Whats he doing in a street tourney?

Oh you mean blink from Exiles she's equally over powered laughing out loud

Yeah, he's not accessing any higher powers in my tourney. He'll be at base level with his sword and nothing else. That galaxy destroying was plot-induced apparently...nothing he could do on his own.

But is there more than one version of Blink?? And how is she over-powered?

Whirlysplatt
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Yeah, he's not accessing any higher powers in my tourney. He'll be at base level with his sword and nothing else. That galaxy destroying was plot-induced apparently...nothing he could do on his own.

But is there more than one version of Blink?? And how is she over-powered?

It was plot induced but he can still access higher powers.

Blink can basically translocate parts of people when they attack her, they could all become armless.

Laminator_X
As I recall (now everyone gets to wonder if I picked him), the galaxy destroying was an ancient superweapon. Dreadstar was brought along by the sorcerer who built it as muscle to make sure he wouldn't be stopped before the weapon was activated.

I think the trickiest thing in this tourney is that we're all going to have extremely good amalgams with great combinations of strength, speed, skill, versatility, etc. It'll be sort of like all the engineering rules in pro racing that end up ensuring that the cars are all within a few percentage points of one another performance-wise.

When it comes down to it, how are we to decide (apart from the fact that we're voting, obviously) when somebody dodges or doesn't when we'll surely have some very evenly matched bouts.?

Scoobless
Originally posted by Laminator_X
how are we to decide ... when somebody dodges or doesn't

simple.... my guy dodges ..... your's doesn't


stick out tongue

zachrivard
alot of good picks, whos the best pick so far??

Khellendros
Originally posted by Laminator_X
When it comes down to it, how are we to decide (apart from the fact that we're voting, obviously) when somebody dodges or doesn't when we'll surely have some very evenly matched bouts.?
These debates aren't blow by blow. Voters are supposed to decide on the overall skills and feats ad powers of the amalgams and how well the debater uses them and counters the other's arguments. Just because two amalgams seem pretty close doesn't mean the debating will be as close.

Scoobless
Originally posted by zachrivard
alot of good picks, whos the best pick so far??

obviously it's Squirrel Girl ............ duh!

roll eyes (sarcastic)

zachrivard
Originally posted by Scoobless
obviously it's Squirrel Girl ............ duh!

roll eyes (sarcastic)


yeah squirrel girl...

Nataku8188
My original plan was to do Brock Samson, Ace and Gary. Man that would've rocked hardcore.

Khellendros
Originally posted by Nataku8188
My original plan was to do Brock Samson, Ace and Gary. Man that would've rocked hardcore.
Dude, I would've just forfeited.

Dr.SpiderHulk
I'm picked...let's go.....!

zachrivard
i think dr.spiderhulk pick scarlet spider and spiderman just to be sure

Scoobless
Originally posted by zachrivard
i think dr.spiderhulk pick scarlet spider and spiderman just to be sure

who does that leave him for round 3? Spider-Girl? Spider-Woman?? the Steel Spider???




roll eyes (sarcastic)

zachrivard
Originally posted by Scoobless
who does that leave him for round 3? Spider-Girl? Spider-Woman?? the Steel Spider???




roll eyes (sarcastic)

yes the ultimate spidermonster, this unstopable beast only pales in comparasion to ................the unspeakable, unstopable monster who is............squirrel girl

jplatinum
I got malibu comics' bruce lee.

Nataku8188
Jp doesn't seem to understand the concept of secrecy.

Scoobless
Originally posted by Nataku8188
Jp doesn't seem to understand the concept of secrecy.

indeed


roll eyes (sarcastic)

jplatinum
So.

Laminator_X
Originally posted by Nataku8188
Jp doesn't seem to understand the concept of secrecy.

When you've got The Dragon, you don't need secrecy.

jplatinum
"When you've got The Dragon, you don't need secrecy."

Damn right, X.

Solidus Snake
it would be funny that if the squirrel girl character won

Khellendros
Hmm, this brings up a question now: are characters with magical weapons useable now for all of us? Because between Vixen and the guy with the magical sword... it seems that way, and that opens up a couple new options for me.

long pig
Vixen, the magic sword guy, the magic device guy...darkhawk I think.

Good question.

Dizzle
I'm assuming "magic weapon" meant stuff that actually fires some type of magic energy... As opposed to more passive enchantments.

Nataku8188
I hate magic. It makes my crotch itch like a bad case of Peruvian crabs.

Dizzle
Ace and Gary are magic...

And magic's cool. In moderation.

long pig
No magic, or otherwise I'm picking Strange again!
evil face

Dizzle
No magic wielding, no offensive magical items. But passive stuff on a sword is no different than something being made of adamantium...

Scoobless
some Vampires are considered magical beings.... there's a vamp in this already.... is he magical?

zachrivard

zachrivard
it clearly says in the rules NO MAGIC

zachrivard
cause u know
back then hoes didnt want me
now i am hot, hoes all on me
mike jones.....who???!??
mike jones......who???!!!???
MIKE JONES

guess who my third pick is gonna be
who????
mike jones

zachrivard
i am gonna use my magical rap powers to beat u all!!!

Scoobless
Originally posted by zachrivard
i am gonna use my magical rap powers to beat u all!!!

so that's what? Mike Jones.... Squirrel Girl..... and who?..... Stephen Hawking?

killer combo there man

Dizzle
I took that to mean offensive spells or enchantments... Not stuff like strength and sharpness enhancements. Adamantium isn't going to get broken, and is probably sharp enough to pierce anyone's skin. And of course, lighsabers are also ok.

zachrivard
damn stephen hawking, i thought they banned telepathy from this tourney. i am gonna have to change my 3rd pick to christopher reeve

zachrivard
i am gonna go man of steel on all ur asses

Dizzle
He has amazing, quadropolegic powers... He'll go angry cripple on your asses.

zachrivard
someone should draft proffesser x without telepathy.... CRIPPLE FIGHT

Nataku8188
Originally posted by Scoobless
so that's what? Mike Jones.... Squirrel Girl..... and who?..... Stephen Hawking?

killer combo there man

DigiMark007
*sigh* I have two options at this point....

1. Be an absolute dick and ban anybody that even remotely smells like magic or that is too powerful...including Deathstar (or whatever his name is), Vixen (she's magical??), Blink (possibly too powerful judging by the comments), and any others near the line.

2. Option 2 is allowing things with passive enchantments that don't turn people to sheep or f*ck with them too badly, and be lenient with the rules.

What do you guys think? Because honestly I hate playing the bad guy, but I'll do it if we think it would be for the best.

DigiMark007
Deathlok has been chosen

http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/d/deathlok.htm

stormfront13
Originally posted by DigiMark007
*sigh* I have two options at this point....

1. Be an absolute dick and ban anybody that even remotely smells like magic or that is too powerful...including Deathstar (or whatever his name is), Vixen (she's magical??), Blink (possibly too powerful judging by the comments), and any others near the line.

2. Option 2 is allowing things with passive enchantments that don't turn people to sheep or f*ck with them too badly, and be lenient with the rules.

What do you guys think? Because honestly I hate playing the bad guy, but I'll do it if we think it would be for the best.

I'd say option 2

Khellendros
Originally posted by stormfront13
I'd say option 2
What this one said, dickery is bad for the heart.

Dizzle
Originally posted by Khellendros
What this one said, dickery is bad for the heart.

Yaaaaaaaaaay Superman!

Heeheehee, world icon. Right. http://www.superdickery.com/

DigiMark007
Drizzt Do'Urden has been chosen

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drizzt

This gets my gold star for round 2 (Grievous got the round 1 star). Drizzt is a bad-ass of the highest caliber.

He won't have his panther (a non-passive magical item) but will retain his speed-enhacing anklets, his inherent drow elf abilities and his two scimitars (and his regular fighting prowess and what-not).

DigiMark007
I thought of an option 3:

Rather than be a dick and start banning stuff left and right, and rather than being a pushover and letting people bend a bunch of rules, I'll be lenient with who I allow but then set strict limits for people (like we've done with Wolverine's healing and Spidey's reflexes). I'll do it as intelligently and fairly as possible, but if my limit is less than what the character is capable of, tough luck. I'll submit them for revision and approval as I make them, but I'll always have the final say.

K Von Doom
Drizzt? What the?!

Tha C-Master
*edit*

DigiMark007
Sorry CM...gotta try to keep the secrecy intact as much as possible (except for people like JP who don't seem to care). Bruce Lee's awesome though...a real-world guy who could probably kick the crap out of a few of these comic street-levelers.

Anyway, I'll write up limits for Blink, Vanth, Harold Leland (everyone's been oddly quiet about him, but he would've worried the crap outa me), and anyone else that's needed (please say so if you want limits defined for someone's/something's powers).

DigiMark007
Shang-Chi has been selected.

http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/s/shangchi.htm

long pig
I don't care about magic really.

We should be lenient, just as long as no one goes overboard with their claims.

Laminator_X
I thought that had essentially covered it. Moon Knight's strength is magical in origin, but he would'nt have any unfair advantage. I wouldn't consider Drizzt's scimitars to be more powerful than a lightsaber either. For that matter the tech in something like the Midnighter's implants is so advanced that it may as well be magic (to paraphrase Clarke). As long as we're sane about who we're picking and Digi appropriately scrutinizes/clarifies any borderline cases, where's the problem?

I thought the point of the "No Magic" rule was to avoid any un-avoidable deus ex machina attacks that make for dumb fights, not to avoid cooties based on a character's origin.

Re Harry Leland: The only problem I could see would be if he were amalgamated in such a way as to remove the limitations of his physical stamina on his powers. If he were mixed with somone/thing who didn't fatigue or wear down he'd be able to dish out any time the sort of whammy that he paid with his life to lay on Nimrod.

Something we'll have to be wary of is characters who are ok amalgamating in such a way, perhaps even unintentionally, as to be over the line.

newjak86
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Drizzt Do'Urden has been chosen

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drizzt

This gets my gold star for round 2 (Grievous got the round 1 star). Drizzt is a bad-ass of the highest caliber.

He won't have his panther (a non-passive magical item) but will retain his speed-enhacing anklets, his inherent drow elf abilities and his two scimitars (and his regular fighting prowess and what-not). I hate to say this but as a Ranger he already can cast some spells which can effect us as characters much like telepathy or telekinetic attacks.

Scoobless

Laminator_X
Originally posted by newjak86
I hate to say this but as a Ranger he already can cast some spells which can effect us as characters much like telepathy or telekinetic attacks.

Hmm, for that matter, some of those old-school Drow abilities would fall into that realm as well, particulatly the levitation. A properly pruned Drizzt could be cool though.

zachrivard
who???

zachrivard
.....mike jones!!!

Scoobless
indeed

zachrivard
yup
cant wait till the first rounds of fights start
this is gonna be a better tourny than the last one

DigiMark007
Drizzt can't leviatate anymore. And he's not a Ranger with a wide range of spells....or any at all for that matter. He retains the innate drow ability to make (harmless) faerie fire or globes of darkness, but those are inherent in all drow, not just Drizzt...so it's hardly magic.

Maybe regular D&D Rangers have some spells, but Drizzt is just a badass, highly-trained swordsman with some extra abilities and passively magical scimitars. I see no problem.

DigiMark007
Deadpool has been selected

http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/d/deadpool.htm

DigiMark007
Spider-Man's...er...Doppleganger (for lack of a better term) has been picked.

http://www.samruby.com/Villains/Doppleganger/doppleganger.htm

DigiMark007
Oh, and I hate to ruin the fun, but Squirrel Girl was just to distract attention away from Bruce Lee, since at the time I was still trying to keep JP's pick a secret. Squirrel Girl isn't for real.

Tha C-Master
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Spider-Man's...er...Doppleganger (for lack of a better term) has been picked.

http://www.samruby.com/Villains/Doppleganger/doppleganger.htm I used to beat him down on maximum carnage...

olympian
"http://www.superdickery.com/"

The best site eva.

Makes me laught anytime.

Dizzle
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Sorry CM...gotta try to keep the secrecy intact as much as possible (except for people like JP who don't seem to care).

No my sig is NOT the cover of Two Swords...

(screw secrecy for Drizzt, it's not real hard to figure out, and he doesn't really have exploitable weaknesses. And yes, this is current Drizzt, not underdark Drizzt. And he doesn't get Guenhwyvar, which was his only non-passive magic thing)

Disregard all parentheses. big grin

Scoobless
Squirrel Girl wasn't for real.... sad


not yet anyway...... evil face

Scoobless
that damn Digi..... he keeps black balling my potential picks


mad


Digi.... you should make a list of all the characters you didn't allow into the tourney.... it could be funny to see who people tried to sneak in

smile

DigiMark007
I'll try to make that list Scoob...I'll have to do some thinking...

Speedfreek has been switched in (he replaces Harold Leland).

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix2/speedfreek.htm

Rockets are lobotomized...he can't fly for the tourney.

DigiMark007
Black Panther has been chosen

http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/b/blackpanther.htm

Scoobless
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Black Panther has been chosen

it's about bloody time

smile

DigiMark007
The next couple picks weren't easy desicions, but once you let something bend the rules, you open the door for other stuff. Not that I think these are more powerful than other picks (because they're not) but just that they had to have some powers stripped from them to make them acceptable.

The first is Spider-Woman III, going by simply Spider-Woman in her bio (or Martha Franklin). She's been stripped of her flying abilities, so she's pretty much like the spider-fill-ins that have been chosen already (Scarlet Spider, Doppleganger, etc.).

http://www.fortunecity.com/rivendell/chronos/279/woman.html

The next is Darth Maul...probably a not-so-subtle counter to Grievous. But we're pretty much stripping him of the Force. No telepathy, no telekinesis. He can use it like a spider-sense (or Force-sense) to aid him slightly in battle (like when Jedi block blaster fire), but nothing else.

http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/darthmaul/index.html

I'm beginning to see the woes any tourney director will have to deal with when running a tourney here...but nearly everyone has had something small taken away from their character (glider, magical panther, foot rockets, flight, telekinesis, etc.) so I don't think it's being terribly unfair to anyone.

Same rules will apply for lightsabers that we made for Grievous...I'll post them all again soon.

Laminator_X
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Oh, and I hate to ruin the fun, but Squirrel Girl was just to distract attention away from Bruce Lee, since at the time I was still trying to keep JP's pick a secret. Squirrel Girl isn't for real.

Well now I know whom to draft in round three!

DigiMark007
Funny rejected picks...

I don't remember most, but a few stand out that I remember...

Plastic Man, Duncan McCloud (Highlander), Maelstrom, Bishop (from a few people), Hulk (not kidding), Terminator, Multiple Man, The Spot, Machine Man. That's all I can think of right now, but there were others. LP alone PM'd me probably 20 different people before drafting, about half of whom were too powerful.

Scoobless
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Funny rejected picks...

I don't remember most, but a few stand out that I remember...

Plastic Man, Duncan McCloud (Highlander), Maelstrom, Bishop (from a few people), Hulk (not kidding), Terminator, Multiple Man, The Spot, Machine Man. That's all I can think of right now, but there were others. LP alone PM'd me probably 20 different people before drafting, about half of whom were too powerful.

i still think the Spot is within the power limits (especially if someone has Blink)

Hulk.... lol..... not so nice a try there

and it was T1000.... not Terminator.... stick out tongue

DigiMark007
The Spot would own a lot of people if he was smart and had any other powers (like any amalgam will). Sorry there.

A few things...

1. We're done with this round. The next round will start...um...we'll go with Sunday for now.

2. I'm beginning to see that we're going to need an extra thread after drafting. I want to PM back and forth with all participants and establish everyone's standard equipment (not now though...in the upcoming thread). We'll iron out standard equipment (unless it's obvious) and finish discussion on characters if needed. It will also be the last time you can switch characters if you want. And then I'll leave that thread up and it can become our "General Tourney Discussion" thread, so that the battles can be nothing but fighting.

3. I still will have to post limits for Vanth and Blink...I'll get to it soon.

4. A few people have expressed gratitude for my efforts with the tourney. Thanks...it's fun and I hope I'm being fair to everyone.

-DM

Dizzle
Originally posted by DigiMark007
The Spot would own a lot of people if he was smart and had any other powers (like any amalgam will). Sorry there.

A few things...

1. We're done with this round. The next round will start...um...we'll go with Sunday for now.

2. I'm beginning to see that we're going to need an extra thread after drafting. I want to PM back and forth with all participants and establish everyone's standard equipment (not now though...in the upcoming thread). We'll iron out standard equipment (unless it's obvious) and finish discussion on characters if needed. It will also be the last time you can switch characters if you want. And then I'll leave that thread up and it can become our "General Tourney Discussion" thread, so that the battles can be nothing but fighting.

3. I still will have to post limits for Vanth and Blink...I'll get to it soon.

4. A few people have expressed gratitude for my efforts with the tourney. Thanks...it's fun and I hope I'm being fair to everyone.

-DM

First things first, I don't know a whole lot about Speedfreak, but his site says that he's fared very well against Hulk... Dunno how much the rockets had to do with that, but anyone going toe to toe with Hulk has to be a pretty tough SOB. I'd like to hear more about his strength and durability... The armor looks pretty solid.

And you're doing quite the bang up job, Digi. Good work thus far! big grin

DigiMark007
Speedfreek apparently has titanium armor (which can be pierced, though not easily, by adamantium, vibranium, lightsabers, diamond-edged scimitars, etc.) and has some adamantium blades. His rockets have been cut off, so he can't fly, but he has little boosters that can propel him forward. Other than that, I thought he was just supposed to be a decent fighter and stuff. I mean, Logan and Parker and other jobbers have "fared well" (i.e. survived) against Hulk, so that might not be saying much.

But just to make sure, anyone else have info on this guy??

Khellendros
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Speedfreek apparently has titanium armor (which can be pierced, though not easily, by adamantium, vibranium, lightsabers, diamond-edged scimitars, etc.) and has some adamantium blades. His rockets have been cut off, so he can't fly, but he has little boosters that can propel him forward. Other than that, I thought he was just supposed to be a decent fighter and stuff. I mean, Logan and Parker and other jobbers have "fared well" (i.e. survived) against Hulk, so that might not be saying much.

But just to make sure, anyone else have info on this guy??
He did well because he has artifical superspeed, decent armor and adamantium blades. Anyone with the same tools could do just as well.

Scoobless
but how decent IS his armour?

DigiMark007
Titanium. A rung or two below the "indestructible" types. If it had been any stronger I'd have banned it, but most weapons will get through it eventually (some quicker than others)...Doc Ock's tentacles are made of the same stuff. Not indestructible...just a tough metal.

K Von Doom
Can't believe someone tried to pick Hulk

Khellendros
O_o Why was Bishop not allowed? Not that I mind...

Laminator_X
Originally posted by K Von Doom
Can't believe someone tried to pick Hulk
Are you sure they didn't mean Banner?

jinzin
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Speedfreek apparently has titanium armor (which can be pierced, though not easily, by adamantium, vibranium, lightsabers, diamond-edged scimitars, etc.) and has some adamantium blades. His rockets have been cut off, so he can't fly, but he has little boosters that can propel him forward. Other than that, I thought he was just supposed to be a decent fighter and stuff. I mean, Logan and Parker and other jobbers have "fared well" (i.e. survived) against Hulk, so that might not be saying much.

But just to make sure, anyone else have info on this guy??

from what I've seen he's definitely not street level...unless you don't mind everyone here gettin cut in half before the fight even kicks off...

Sentry
I'm surprised no one chose the master of prep, Batman

Khellendros
Originally posted by jinzin
from what I've seen he's definitely not street level...unless you don't mind everyone here gettin cut in half before the fight even kicks off...
Holy crap he's that fast?

jinzin
yup...he's fast enough that's for sure.

K Von Doom
Originally posted by Laminator_X
Are you sure they didn't mean Banner?

I don't know. Is that what you meant? stick out tongue

long pig
If he isn't allowed to fly, then he probably isn't super fast, ya think?

jinzin
i hope.

Solidus Snake
didnt speedfreak gut the hulk and survive a direct hit from him?

DigiMark007
Spider-Man's the speed limit. If Speedfreek violates that I'll tie some chains around his legs for the fight. No speedblitzing of that caliber. I don't know how fast he is, but if he is argued as being that fast it will be an invalid argument. His reactions and soforth can be used, but his speed must remain legal. If the chooser of him has a problem with this he can change.

DigiMark007
Originally posted by Solidus Snake
didnt speedfreak gut the hulk and survive a direct hit from him?

I think, but Wolverine could say the same of hitting Hulk, and Spider-Man has survived a blow from him. To say these things isn't to put him on Hulk's level.

Scoobless
Originally posted by DigiMark007
I think, but Wolverine could say the same of hitting Hulk, and Spider-Man has survived a blow from him. To say these things isn't to put him on Hulk's level.

Spider-Man only ever takes glancing shots from the Hulk, Wolverine has been shown to have his guts liquidize from a hit from the Hulk.... this guys armour seems to be able to take those same hits with little or no damage.... big difference

yahman
Originally posted by DigiMark007
I think, but Wolverine could say the same of hitting Hulk, and Spider-Man has survived a blow from him. To say these things isn't to put him on Hulk's level.

Ummm how do i take part ? Please ??????????? Il be your friend and you can come to my party smile

DigiMark007
Originally posted by Scoobless
Spider-Man only ever takes glancing shots from the Hulk, Wolverine has been shown to have his guts liquidize from a hit from the Hulk.... this guys armour seems to be able to take those same hits with little or no damage.... big difference

Erg...point taken. I still want to say that it's only titanium, and shouldn't be a problem for anything adamantium, vibranium, lightsabers, diamond, tentacles, etc. But I see where you're coming from.

And we did take away his flight (and speed presumably)...I think we can all agree that Hulk would've handed him his ass if he had been like that for the fight (and probably would have anyway eventually).

Other thoughts on this guy? Because there's obviously some controversy about him.

Maestro
heres a decent guy if anyone wants him.

http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/a/americaneagle.htm

This guy can do 15 tons, but sounds a bit super powered if you ask me.

http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/a/aquarian.htm

Yea and someone should pick The Lizard if he hasn't been picked.

Up to digi though.

Scoobless
i think someone already chose him... the eagle guy i mean.... since you edited your post

Maestro
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix2/speedfreek.htm

Bit of info on speedfreak

newjak86
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Erg...point taken. I still want to say that it's only titanium, and shouldn't be a problem for anything adamantium, vibranium, lightsabers, diamond, tentacles, etc. But I see where you're coming from.

And we did take away his flight (and speed presumably)...I think we can all agree that Hulk would've handed him his ass if he had been like that for the fight (and probably would have anyway eventually).

Other thoughts on this guy? Because there's obviously some controversy about him. Question how fast can he go exactly and are we limiting his speed at all.

DigiMark007
His flight boosters are gone, and the bio says that they anabled him "to fly at superhuman speeds". I think we can safely assume that with the flight gone his speed is severely limited or back to normal levels. For the purposes of the tourney, he's just a decent fighter with adamantium blades and titanium armor.

newjak86
Originally posted by DigiMark007
His flight boosters are gone, and the bio says that they anabled him "to fly at superhuman speeds". I think we can safely assume that with the flight gone his speed is severely limited or back to normal levels. For the purposes of the tourney, he's just a decent fighter with adamantium blades and titanium armor. Well if it's just titanium armor then I see nothing wrong with him.

DigiMark007
Few announcements...

1. 8BitChris is replacing Piedmon. His picks are interspersed throughout this round. I didn't want to announce him until now, so it'll be harder to pin-point whom he has chosen. He will face SF in the first round.

2. Bruce Lee has been replaced with Kenshin Himura (some anime dude). Apparently the dude's wicked fast, but otherwise just has a sweet sword and fighting skills. I was told he could travel at about the speed of a bullet (700MPH) which is too fast. I've bumped his "max speed" down to about 100MPH (and that's only in a dead-out sprint...he can't instantly go that fast). Though never having his foot-speed clocked, I'm quite sure Parker could manage something similar (and this Kenshin guy doesn't have the same reflexes and all). Here's the link.

http://www.absoluteanime.com/rurouni_kenshin/kenshin.htm

3. Vanth Dreadstar - The sword boosts the character's normal strength levels by about 10x. Still nowhere near many of the picks, and probably somewhere just under 1 Ton. It can absorb most energy attacks, but only those where it receives the blow (i.e. if the energy hits Vanth himself it'll hurt him). It can then redirect the energy with similar force. Vanth can heal slightly faster than normal, but still nowhere near Wolverine levels. He wields a low-level laser gun. That's it. Anything else, the person who picked him can PM me.

4. Blink - I rifled through some Exiles issues today to try to help but nothing useful popped up. Unlike Vanth, at full potential Blink is probably too powerful, so to use her we'll have to limit her. Blink can teleport herself, but cannot teleport another person (parts or whole). She can, however, teleport objects hurled at her if she has the skill to pick them off in the air before they hit her. Her projectiles can signicantly damage a person, with the molecular displacement affect acting as a moderate concussive force. 4-5 such projectiles can impact with the force of a standard grenade (enough to blow up or at least significantly damage, say, a car). Individual projectiles will cause damage to any substance (even the uber-tough stuff) but denser materials (diamond, adamantium, etc.) will be damaged but remain essentially intact unless totally bombarded with projectiles (i.e. highly unlikely).

I hope these definitions are acceptable to everyone. If the people who picked them have a problem with this, PM me and we can discuss it.

DigiMark007
5. Speedfreek - I've been informed that the flight rockets gave him his speed so he won't be super-fast for the tourney. His forward-boosters give him a slight speed burst, but nothing beyond others in the tourney. Furthermore, yes he survived a punch from Hulk, but the punch K.O'ed him. He could only take the one punch, and it made him black out. The blades are adamantium but his armor is only titanium, which is the same as Doc Ock's tentacles and less hard than vibranium and adamantium. Due to his drug addiction to "Snap" he has some slightly enhanced reflexes, but nothing near SM or others like him.

I hope that lays to rest everyone's fears about him.

Sentry
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Few announcements...



2. Bruce Lee has been replaced with Kenshin Himura (some anime dude). Apparently the dude's wicked fast, but otherwise just has a sweet sword and fighting skills. I was told he could travel at about the speed of a bullet (700MPH) which is too fast. I've bumped his "max speed" down to about 100MPH (and that's only in a dead-out sprint...he can't instantly go that fast). Though never having his foot-speed clocked, I'm quite sure Parker could manage something similar (and this Kenshin guy doesn't have the same reflexes and all). Here's the link.

http://www.absoluteanime.com/ruroun...hin/kenshin.htm



Beware of Ruroni Kenshin Himura Master of Battojutsu... He is one bad ass. Then again his sword draw is what is clocked at 700 MPH not his running speed. He is fast however for a human. At least 10 to 12 times the norm. His reaction speeds are quite fast as well. That specific sword draw can also hurt you even if he missed the initial strike. I've seen just about every episode of Ruroni Kenshin, and my guy will squash him like a bug, after I crush that fool Dizzle.

Dizzle
Originally posted by Sentry
Beware of Ruroni Kenshin Himura Master of Battojutsu... He is one bad ass. Then again his sword draw is what is clocked at 700 MPH not his running speed. He is fast however for a human. At least 10 to 12 times the norm. His reaction speeds are quite fast as well. That specific sword draw can also hurt you even if he missed the initial strike. I've seen just about every episode of Ruroni Kenshin, and my guy will squash him like a bug, after I crush that fool Dizzle.

Bringeth. I'm freaking unstoppable. boxing

Khellendros
Originally posted by Sentry
Beware of Ruroni Kenshin Himura Master of Battojutsu... He is one bad ass. Then again his sword draw is what is clocked at 700 MPH not his running speed. He is fast however for a human. At least 10 to 12 times the norm. His reaction speeds are quite fast as well. That specific sword draw can also hurt you even if he missed the initial strike. I've seen just about every episode of Ruroni Kenshin, and my guy will squash him like a bug, after I crush that fool Dizzle.
Yeah, I don't think anyone will be able to beat Kenishin in an up close game. Whoever fights him better hope they have a ranged attack or else.

newjak86
Originally posted by Khellendros
Yeah, I don't think anyone will be able to beat Kenishin in an up close game. Whoever fights him better hope they have a ranged attack or else. Kenshin's attacks are powerful but nothing special. He is faster than a normal human but not 10 times I would say 5 times most. His fast reflex's are based on his ability to read hid oppenent which can be messed with since he uses his eyes to do it.
His fighting style is smple get more hits in then you oppenent can handle and take less.

long pig
When's the next draft?

wtf, who got deathlok??? When did this happen? sad

DigiMark007
Not paying attention again LP? Sunday (tomorrow) is the next draft. I have family coming in from out of town, so I don't know exactly when I'll get to it. Could be early or late. But if you come on late tomorrow you'll see it regardless.

Also, apparently Vanth Dreadstar's laser gun can infect someone with radiation poisoning. Any sort of healing factor can combat this easily, and it takes hours to take hold anyway. It shouldn't come into play in the battles.

DigiMark007
Vixen has been replaced by Dazzler

http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/d/dazzler.htm

DigiMark007
General thought on the amalgams...

I like the looks of the combos so far...I can't really find any that I think are bad. There's a few that, if properly paired in the 3rd round, could be really good, but for the most part there's a lot of solid amalgams that will be competitive with anyone.

A lot of it, I think, will come down to match-ups and debating. Some will match up well against another person, others won't. And with a lot of "good but not great" amalgams, a lot will be debating skill. At the beginning of the last tourney (after drafts) I pegged LP, Scoob, Khell and myself as the best amalgams based upon our picks, and that's how it ended up happening. This tourney, it won't be as easy to do that.

My favorite picks so far (not necesarily the best picks, just my favorites) are Grievous and Drizzt. But there's a lot of other fun obscure ones and well-known-but-solid picks, so this has been entertaining to run the tourney. Part of me still wishes I could be in it (Drizzt would have been mine in the 1st round), but this is cool too.

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