Will Anakin Still Be A Jedi in Episode III?

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Emperor Helmet
Since he has gotten married, it would seem like that would be expulsion from the order. Or will they keep it a secret and have it destroy their lives(which would make the fireplace conversation foreshadow the future).

yerssot
still a jedi, mesa thinks...

they all don't know... but it all depends on how good they can keep a secret, what OB1 will do if he finds out and how much time there is between AOTC and EpIII

Emperor Helmet
2-3 years, in between Episode II and III.

Jayntree
Well, Ki-Adi-Mundi followed the Cerean custom of polygamous marriage, taking a bond wife, Shea, and four honor wives while he was a Jedi and now he is on the Jedi Council. So I guess the Jedi don't like marrage, but it can be done.

This is the link for the information on Ki-Adi-Mundi:

http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/kiadimundi/eu.html

yerssot
watch the last part of that link: EU

eu isn't canon

LanceWindu
All I know is that Anakin is still a learner when he last sees OB1, so I say he's still a Jedi Padawan.

Dexx
A jedi he will be.
Even if dark or fallen jedi, he is

LanceWindu
He will be fallen and nobody will know til it's too late.

Ushgarak
Yup, that Mundi stuff isn't canon.

We don't have it for CERTAIN that marriage gets you thrown out, though Anakin being a Padawan makes the situation very diodgy.

Still, what DOES get you thrown out the ORder? Qui-Gon never was, even though he did not follow th code. Yet Obi-Wan seemed to think that Anakin putting Padme's importance over the mission was grounds for expulsion. Hmmm...

Emperor Helmet
But yet Obi-Wan says he would be expelled for going back and helping Padme.

Ushgarak
Yes, as I said.

yerssot
because the Jedi were fighting and he ignored an order from a master perhaps?

Ushgarak
Well, if disobediance was all it took then Qui-Gon would have been expelled.

yerssot
I mean the war-part when being that

Dexx
The jedi Coucil, a group of angry generals, it is not. Qui Gon, a master he was thus smaller the chances of him being expelled are. Anakin, instead......the councillors aware they are that his powers arogant they made him. Still, capable of many great things he is. But endangering the mission and risking Obi's life, acceptable, it is not.

LanceWindu
Ahh!

It's hard to understand what you mean Dexx. that Yoda talk gets me confused.

Ushgarak
"Aware the councillors are" that should be.

yerssot
aware, isn't the same as doing something about it

Dexx
i might not say some of the Yoda lines correct...but still.......if you say that u get confused reading them...i get even more confused writting them Untill one day when perfect it shall be.

Jedi Mercenary
I don't think it means expulsion, no jedi is perfect, maybe aliens don't have emotions, so not falling in love is hard for them.

peluffo
You mean, a Vulcan like Mr Spo...Wrong forum. Sorry. The renamed threads, and new areas get me confused...
(not to mention Yoda language)

Jedi Mercenary
Well, that's alright.

Dexx
maybe taht's why Obi Wan almost kills Anakin in 3....
You bastard...u got married and...and what about me.....Die!!!...die!!!

Gundark
Somebody help me with this cause I missed it when it was said...

What exactly did Obi Wan say to Mace about Anakin at the very end before they cut to the wedding ceremony on Naboo ?

Ushgarak
Simply that he was escorting Amidala back to Naboo, I think.

Gundark
So the council is completely clueless about the marriage.

Ushgarak
So it seems. But... who knows?

Dexx
Another thing....3PO and R2 were at the wedding and i saw all ships taking off and leaving them right there in the middle of the arena......did someone turn back to take'em?

yerssot
but they still managed to return big grin

Dexx
R2's jet thinggies.
Soo...Annie secretly married.....hmmm....this could chain some eventz that could lead to the darkside

LaurenE147
Not to be rude, Dexx, but duh!!!!!

yerssot
ow! you are right! it's rude!

yodaman17
During some of the movie he is still a jedi then he turns to the dark side and blah blah blah. then he gets messed up and christenson gets to put on the dark helmet and stuff like that and in the end the bad guys win. all the good guys die except two obi and yoda

Captain REX
You mean all the JEDI die. Obi-Wan, Yoda, Luke, Leia, Bail Organa, Owen Lars, Beru Lars, and the like.

And it might be David Prowse sporting the dark suit, remember?

Corran
Rex, have you been drinking some falling down pop?

You don't need anyone to tell you that none of Obi-Wan, Yoda, Luke, Leia, Bail Organa, Owen Lars or Beru will die in EPIII and that some of them are not Jedi anyhow!!

yerssot
hope david doesn't do it

Julie
I'd go with still a jedi....

LaurenE147
It's my guess that Anakin hasn't been telling every person on the street that he is illegally married, so he's probably still a Jedi.

And who else but David Prowse would sport the Vader suit?

Julie
Why not Hayden?.....

LaurenE147
It has to be David Prowse. He brought the role to life. He must. It is his desssssstiny.

Julie
ooook....I guess that's one way of looking at things. Yes, it would be nice if Prowse got to reprise his old role.....I wouldn't go so far as to destingy....but it would be nice

LaurenE147
It would be nostalgic if he got to do it again.

Julie
true.....that would be so......

finti
nah Hayden will do

LaurenE147
sad

queeq
I don't understand what the thing with Prowse is. It's just a guy in a suit.

yerssot
old guy in the suit

LaurenE147
But it's his job!

yerssot
and Hayden takes it over, I hope

LaurenE147
*Starts riot and they start to chant David Prowse! David Prowse!*

yerssot
think you're alone in that one big grin

finti
Will Anakin Still Be A Jedi in Episode III?
I was just sitting here thinking a bit about epIII, there is so many unanswered questions. One of them is what makes anakin turn.
This may have been mentioned before but what the hell so here goes.
There is a slight chance that Anakin is expelled from the Jedi order because of his " secret" marriage to Padme. As an outcast he will be an easy target for a sly Palpatine. An angry and vindictive Anakin may be the Anakin we meet in epIII. Maybe a bit vague, but lets hear your thoughts on this

mah
thats plausible.

Dexx
it might...then again..the answered questions will probably be the only good thing in ep. III. Like ep. II..let's hope i'm wrong

yerssot
well, actually, should very well be.

"He feared you might follow old Obi-Wan on some damn fooled idealistic crusade like your father did"

That crusade hasn't happened yet... so perhaps he lives on Tatooine, and OB1 goes and get him for the ultimate fight to defeat the sith for ever?

Ushgarak
Actually, that line might be fully explained by Anakin going after Obi-Wan in AOTC, which may seem unsatisfactory but there you go. Without any further significant filming in Tunisia going on such a scene as you describe would be troublesome.

King Jedi
I'd say he's still a Jedi and some something heroic. Maybe capturing Dooku. Then the Jedi find out about the marriage and punish him in some way. He feels he's being held back and his ego gets the better of him. He rebels and then it all gets out of control.

Ushgarak
How do you mean punish? The Jedi don;t strike me as a punitive lot; I guess expulsion is the deal here.

King Jedi
Maybe he does something so great that any other Jedi Padawan would be promoted to Jedi Knight. But they don't promote him because of his secret marriage. Something like that.

yerssot
that's not really wise of them
they know he wants to be a knight!

King Jedi
But that would be punishing him. I'm just using that as an example.

But anyway, can you really see the Jedi kicking him out when they are in the middle of a war? They need all the help they can get.

yerssot
there is no anger there is peace

goes directly against their code

Ushgarak
Depends how strong their principles are. Asusming their rules are there for good reason.

Anyway, Anakin WANTING to be a Knight should make very little difference! If he wants it too much it could be a good reason to deny it to him.

finti
indeed, I think Anakin feels being held back is a key here, also his great ego.
He might show his emotion to some of the council members or "worse" Palpatine..... and he takes the advantage of Anakin feelings to make Anakin more reluctant towards the JO, maybe even more egocentric and conceited. In other words turn him against the JO principles

yerssot
hence "If you only knew the power of the dark side"?

master harmax
Yoda specifically says : " Powerful Jedi he was " ... Obi Wan also specifically says that he was a great jedi, although I forget the exact words. And Luke ... " I am a jedi ... like my father before me "

Anakin at the end of episode 2 is not a Jedi yet ... still an apprentice ... he hasnt taken the trials yet. Therefore it stands to reason, that he WILL be shown as a jedi in Episode 3. And atleast in the beginning of the movie, I suppose some of his greatness as a Jedi and a starpilot, referred to in the PT will be shown. At least, I hope it will.

Ushgarak
But he IS a Jedi in AOTC; a padawan is still a Jedi and he is referred to as a Jedi at several points in the movie.

The starpilot reference needs more work, though...

master harmax
But u know, he wasnt a powerful great jedi yet ... not the way Yoda said he was.

Ushgarak
Well, Yoda said he was a powerful Jedi, which is true, and Obi-Wan said he was a cunning warrior and a great star pilot... that's pretty much all that was said.

I agree we may well all have expected to see him being rather more senior but I suspect what we have seen won't be far off from what we get.

master harmax
Which is not too much. I still say he whinestoo much.

Ushgarak
Well, that at least inherits neatly into Luke...

King Jedi
I don't think the star pilot thing needs explained anymore than it has done. Winning the pod race and destroying the control ship was enough for me.

And remember, Obi-Wan doesn't know he blew up the control ship by accident. He didn't see what happened.

After the battle, Obi-Wan would have been told that this 9 year old kid destroyed it. That would have impressed him.

Julie
Definately.....
Master Harmax, who whines too much??? Luke? or Anakin? I think Luke whines ten times more then Anakin

finti
nice one Ush

master harmax
It's a close on Julie ... I found Anakin quite irritating in some places in Episode 2.

King Jedi
I thought he was perfect.

Julie
roll eyes (sarcastic) nobody's perfect.....and I do agree that Anakin did have his Whiny monents....

Corran
You are soo wrong.....I am perfect.

finti
perfect smuck ...big grinbig grin

Corran
That'll be Schmuck, you Schmuck.

finti
not that kind of schmuck, smuck try the swedish onebig grin

Julie
uh yeah.....I still say no one's perfect....so you can't be even the perfect ...uh whatever

yerssot
nobody is perfect, I'm nobody

Corran
Yerss good point you are indeed a nobody.

Julie
That's not nice....everybody is somebody....everybody has a purpose in life....

yerssot
I lost mine big grin

Julie
You'll jus thave to go find it again then

yerssot
will you help me looking?

Julie
sure.....I'll help in any way that I possibly can.....

yerssot
ok, you search, I'll rest

Corran
Bt jove I think she has found your purpose - to beat Mr Lazy the laziest person in lazy town, prestiguous winner of the Mr Lazy competitions for as long as he can be bothered to remember, at being lazy.

Julie
jedi....hmmm dark jedi????....yeah he'll be a jedi....what would the movie be like without Annie being a jedi???

finti
I guess Star Wars

lordvader
Anakin will fight Obi-Wan and fall into some type of (lava) pit. Beliving Anakin has died, Obi-Wan reports back to the jedi council. Palptine some how had alrdy gotten to Anakin to have seduced him to the Dark side of the force, why else would Anakin be fighting Obi-Wan and its not over Padames Death. Reason 1 both Anakin and Palptine dont know that Padame was pregnant with twins(rember yoda and Obi-Wan took them to hide from the EMperor and Vader because IF they knew they would be a threat to them so they didnt know. I think Anakin left Padme went on a mission to save Obi-Wan only it was a TRAP like in ESB and Anakin turns to the darkside not knowing that Padame was pregnant with twins. So the ? is how did Palptine get Anakin to turn and what caused Anakin to turn on Obi-WAN.

master harmax
Maybe Palpatine offered Anakin the services of dozens of nubile young female sith slave girls ... and maybe Anakin just got upset with Obi Wan, because Obi Wan refused to oblige Anakin's request that he shave off his beard.

Ushgarak
No no- Obi-Wan wouldn't let ANAKIN grow a beard and feel like a big boy.

master harmax
Aah yes ! That's probably it. Can't really blame him ... imagine if u werent allowed to grow a beard, and oblige yourself the services of dozens of young nubile sith slave girls ... it's enough to make anyone turn to the dark side.

justinday15
I think he will be a jedi at the begining and Obi-Wan will find out anakin and padme are married and tell the council and anakin will get mad and go to palpatine and join the dark side.

justinday15
lordvader:
I read anakin turns on Obi-Wan because there is a crystal that is very powerful and very evil and anakin finds it and obi-wan confronts him and the fight,(it's on some kind of volcano). obi-wan uses the force and the lightsaber comes out of anakins hand and he tries to catch it and loses his footing and falls into the lava.Palpatine brings him back to life.

GordonSkywalker
Very interesting. Where did you read this?

Julie
Star...Enquirer.....

GordonSkywalker
Ah, the tabloids. Is there any truth in them?

Julie
probably......the names of the people...I don't doubt those:-)

GordonSkywalker
Good one!

finti
not more than certain religious books

Member.
hm...erm

GordonSkywalker
Ah finti, how nice to hear from you again so soon! Same as ever I see.

Julie
What kind of a "face" did finti use????....what's that one supposed to mean...it's not the confused one....

GordonSkywalker
It's the "erm" face.. I just checked. Just run your mouse over it and that's the word that comes up.And it was Member not finti who used it.

Julie
Oh I see....interesting face nonetheless wink

Member.
hehe, funny face actually----->erm, wonder if theres no expression. oh u should see this smiley (actually a small movie)--->doctor

Julie
uh what are the smily faces doing????????

Member.
hm...lol. LOLlaughing out loud good question...lollaughing out loudlaughing out loud, the doctor sticks something on/in his behind place LOLlaughing out loud

Julie
ouch....no wonder the weird face from the one face.....doctors are cruel at times:-)

GordonSkywalker
I am sure their hearts are in the right places....anyway back to topic: I think Anakin Skywalker will be a Jedi Knight in Episode 3, before his transformation into the best known Dark Lord around. Just an opinion...my opinion...anyway......

Member.
yea, thats what i always saidbig grin.

GordonSkywalker
I don't think it should start right after the events in AOTC. Give them about five years maybe.

Member.
probably 2 yrs.

GordonSkywalker
Five years would be better if Anakin is established to be a full Jedi Knight. And two years don't seem long enough for the Clone Wars to be dying down.

Member.
hm...who said anthing about dyeing down?????big grin

GordonSkywalker
I read the Clone Wars would be nearly done with by the beginning of Episode 3.

Member.
hm, in that case, probably 5 yrsbig grin, but what about the whole marriage thing? u'd think jedi council would've found out about it within 5 yrs...

GordonSkywalker
{Phil Hartman as Clinton} 'Let me tell you something, there's a whole LOT of things the Jedi Council know nothing about. That's the least of our worries,ok?'

Ushgarak
Hot bet is still 2 or 3 years, especially if Boba is back as he won't be looking 15.

And we do not know if the Council knows of the wedding or not.

Julie
ohhh....I'm sure they'll find out eventually...you know how rumors work.....it'll eventually get back in some way shape or form that Ani is married.

GordonSkywalker
I still maintain a longer duration would be beneficial in the timeline inovlving the start of Episode 3.

Member.
it'll come back to haunt anakinbig grin. when ep3 comes out we will all be happybig grin

Evil Windu
Topic: Will Anakin Still Be A Jedi in Episode III?

I dont know, He might still be an Jedi Padawan in EPIII or probably the start of EPIII he might reach the rank of Jedi Knight. If the Jedi Council finds out that Anakin and Padme had an relationship since they are forbidden by the jedi code. They might kick him out... Yet I dont know, We just gotta wait till the spoilers start comming in..

Member.
my theory=anakin still jedi padawan until mid-movie when palpatine turns him into his dark ekdi learner guy.big grin

GordonSkywalker
Yes a most fascinating list of ideas gentlemen. As stated elsewhere, I believe Anakin will be a full Jedi Knight in 3. He should also get to have his own beard!

Member.
lol, anakin wit beardlaughing out loud

GordonSkywalker
It is quite humorous to imagine, isn't it? A fun suggestion though probably not too likely in the long run.

Member.
laughing out loudwhats next, ob1 wit shaved head LOLbig grinlaughing out loudHappy Dance

GordonSkywalker
Yeah! Go Jedi-Punk style!

Member.
beer

GordonSkywalker
I got it! Maybe Anakin grows his hair out in open defiance of the Jedi Masters and that is why he gets bumped out before he gets to complete his training with Obi-Wan Kenobi. So therefore he never makes it to full Knighthood. laughing out loud

Julie
I thought knights grew their hair as a sign of status?

Corran
Like Mace Windu?

Also the getting thrown out of the order for having long hair would not work, look at Qui-Gon Jinn.

GordonSkywalker
Yes but he was a powerful renegade. They couldn't just kick him out. They probably felt it was better to keep him in so they could keep their eyes on him.

Corran
What about hairless Species? how would they be renegades?

GordonSkywalker
They would be hairless renegades! Hair has very little to do with renegades you know. One could almost say Mace is a renegade because he shaved off his hair,so it can go either way.

Corran
Maybe Mace just went bald, I don't think physical appearance has anything to do with being a renegade or showing defiance,

GordonSkywalker
Neither do I but it sure was fun speculation!

Ushgarak
Just don't mention it to queeq; I have had enough of him and hair.

finti
oh yes that lame ass theory almost forgott about that one

Member.
laughing out loud

cookies2006
Physical features definitely dont have anything to do with Jedi's. No jedi looks at all like another bcuz some are different species like Corran said earlier.

GordonSkywalker
Point well taken.

Member.
jedis look weird.

Corran
Not weird, some are just different.

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