Electro vs Wolverine

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long pig
I've noticed, Electro gets no love around here, how come?

jinzin
can electro produce more destructive force than storm's lightning bolt?

DigiMark007
If he's smart (though Spidey villians rarely are) Logan never gets close. He'd probably K.O. Logan eventually, but I can't see the kill happening.

Electro actually left Parker in bad shape in a recent Marvel Knights run. I think he blew them both up in the process (more dumb-ness) by electricuting something extremely flammable. But he had Spidey on the ropes up until that point, but the overall fight was basically a draw.

WAF3001
wolverine wins

jinzin
Originally posted by jinzin
can electro produce more destructive force than storm's lightning bolt?

long pig
Originally posted by jinzin
can electro produce more destructive force than storm's lightning bolt?
How much can storm produce?

I'd say probably so, seeing he has gained a lot of control over it lately. But I don't know really.

Plus lets not forget he can charge his body with electricity making him strong as spiderman and as fast.

WAF3001
wolverine can beat storm and electro so it doesn't matter

xmarksthespot
How in the hell does Wolverine beat Storm? What the f**k?

WAF3001
um, he has a healing factor?

Scoobless
i sense an ulterior motive behind this thread..... evil face

as someone who has a ton of Wolverine comics as well as most of Electro's appearances, in a straight up (no ambush or prep) fight.... i'd have to go with Electro

i'd give the reasons for this ...... but i don't want to give "whoever" chose him for the street tourney any added ammunition

stick out tongue

WAF3001
how does electro win?

xmarksthespot
Originally posted by WAF3001
how does electro win? His name is Electro... you figure it out.

WAF3001
ZZZAAAPPPP!!!! "Ha I won" boasts Maxwell Dillon"
Wolverine gets up 5 minutes later. He runs and slices Electro to bits. Oh yes I see now!

Draco69
Please. Electro would just burn every ounce of flesh of his body leaving nothing but a metal skeleton.

And since his bones are laced with METAL his attacks should be THAT much more effective.

jinzin
okay long pig..it's just that I can't really guage a fight between electro and wolverine by a fight between electro and spiderman because spiderman uses such a different meathod of combat....and he usually wins via plot device anyways...

right now I'm leaning towards electro..it's just that recently there was a book displaying thunderbird hammering on wolverine WHILE storm was hitting him with eletricity and he just got up and walked away from it like nothing happened..so I have a bit of reasonable doubt still..

also swordsmen II blasted wolverine with lightning bolts and told strucker that he could only hold wolverine off for so long before wolverine completely bypassed him.

WAF3001
even if wolverine was reduced to his skeleton, if he had one cell left in his body, he would live.

long pig
So, what's the possibility of Electro, with his superhuman reaction time, and class 10 strength just grabbing both wolverine's arms and unloading all 1million volts into him frying his body from the inside?

WAF3001
Wolverine would just take an hour or so to heal up again. Electro is so cocky he'd've left right after electrifying Wolvs

xmarksthespot
Originally posted by WAF3001
even if wolverine was reduced to his skeleton, if he had one cell left in his body, he would live. Look jinzin you have a disciple...
Electro should win.

jinzin
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Look jinzin you have a disciple...
Electro should win.

funny has that is..you should probably refrain from making such statements in the future. I know you mean then as an insult...

RogerRamjet
Originally posted by long pig
I've noticed, Electro gets no love around here, how come?

cause he's got a ridiculous costume, he's boring and yesterdays news...

xmarksthespot
Originally posted by jinzin
funny has that is..you should probably refrain from making such statements in the future. I know you mean then as an insult... It was a joke. You take things waaaayyyyy too seriously.

jinzin
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
It was a joke. You take things waaaayyyyy too seriously.

no I don't...re-read what I said..i actually thought it was funny..that other guy however, might not..that's all..

Arahan
With prep time Batmans wins....oops wrong thread.
I take Electro cause i like his powers^^ And he can fry,toast, electrify Logan as long as he wants. But he should do this from a safe distance.

Creshosk
Originally posted by WAF3001
um, he has a healing factor? "What's he going to do? Heal her to death?"

I can't beleive I got to use that stolen line again. big grin

jinzin
laughing out loud

stormfront13
omg, why is wolverine so overated? electro beats him as easily as storm beats him. no questions asked, he doesn't stand a chance. and for the record, I am pretty sure that storm can generate more electrcity

Scoobless
Originally posted by stormfront13
for the record, I am pretty sure that storm can generate more electrcity

no chance




smile

K3VIL
Wasn't Electro kinda god-like thanks to the experiment which pumped up his powers?
He was able to leave Spidey on the ground jamming his brain impulses, he can produce both heat and electricity, he changed water into vapor through increasing the temperature before the water could reach his body, he can hover and fly at great speeds.
He stated that he can destroy an entire neighbourhood on a will, but he wouln't if Spidey beg for mercy.

Scoobless
Originally posted by K3VIL
Wasn't Electro kinda god-like thanks to the experiment which pumped up his powers?
He was able to leave Spidey on the ground jamming his brain impulses, he can produce both heat and electricity, he changed water into vapor through increasing the temperature before the water could reach his body, he can hover and fly at great speeds.
He stated that he can destroy an entire neighbourhood on a will, but he wouln't if Spidey beg for mercy.

yeah... he became uber.... but then he blew up and has never since shown that level of power

BENITO
Electro this is one hell of a miss match or is it a fan boy tester Mr. pig?

Solidus Snake
electro would disintegrate him

the first blast would blind logan and diminish his sense of smell due t the smell of burning flest and teh smell of ozone and what not in his nose.

then 5 more shots later lgan would be a pile of bones. of course logan can regenerate from a drop of blood so....LOL

Pointinel
Originally posted by Scoobless
no chance




smile

LOL!

Onikirimaru
You know, according to forum rules, if someone beats Wolverine into a pile of mush, puts him in a trashcan, and puts him in a dumpster, and then leaves to go get a beer or watch cinimax, and Wolverine regenerates a week later and returns to the alley, looks around and says "Whats the matter Electro? Running away?" then he wins.

Thats the only scenario that Wolvie can get a win out of this.

Pointinel
^funny dude.

willRules
Its true

stormfront13
Originally posted by K3VIL
Wasn't Electro kinda god-like thanks to the experiment which pumped up his powers?
He was able to leave Spidey on the ground jamming his brain impulses, he can produce both heat and electricity, he changed water into vapor through increasing the temperature before the water could reach his body, he can hover and fly at great speeds.
He stated that he can destroy an entire neighbourhood on a will, but he wouln't if Spidey beg for mercy.

yes, storm can do all that also

pr1983
electro, in no uncertain terms, 'f*cks him up'

Metalmanx
Originally posted by WAF3001
Wolverine would just take an hour or so to heal up again. Electro is so cocky he'd've left right after electrifying Wolvs

You do know that's counted as a win, right? If Wolverine is defeated, even for say...3 minutes...he's still defeated, meaning Elektro wins.

And seriously. Com'on. Elektro will stomp Wolverine.

I don't even believe he'll even leave one lousy cell for Wolverine to regernerate from, not if he's as powerful lately as I've been hearing.

Sorry, Wolvie stands NO chance.

And seriously again. Wolverine beating Storm? God. Read a comic book.

Fanboy
Originally posted by WAF3001
um, he has a healing factor?

Well it sucks compared to a lot of people seeing if he gets his skin burnt off along with his vital organs get cut open or something then he can not get healed from that even if he gets ripped in half he will die he is not gonna be healing from that crap.

chucktaylor
Elctro. Wolverine is too overrated.

manjaro
electro all the way, any body who can reduce a high securty spervillan prison to rubble unimpeded takes it. since doc ock has schooled him about all aspects of electricty, over the last 2 yrs he has been doing things that eeriely resembles magneto. he can ionize metal, levitate them, use them as projectiles, shape them to his will, and of course fly on a bolt of lightning....and he can also do that jenny sparks thing and travel thru power lines...all he has left to do now is create black holes and he's mags long lost cousin,big grin his only downfall is that he's incredibly stupid. but that wont be a factor for wolverine

cuz unlike spidey who has plot devices to fall back on. ie. conveniently placed rubber gloves and boots, or something that's grounded to electricty, or some machine that can overload electro's power. wolverine will have no choice but to fight him straight up....and get zapped every time, only to get up and get zapped again..

lando005
this is dillon after his upgrade

fight takes place on the streets of nyc who takes it

Swanky-Tuna
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=365525& amp;highlight=title%3A%28Wolverine+Electro%29+foru
mid%3A77

masterbruce
if Electro fights smart, he wins

if he jobs, then Logan wins

lando005
Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=365525& amp;highlight=title%3A%28Wolverine+Electro%29+foru
mid%3A77 hey it didn't see it when i searched so sue me

lando005
electro ftw

Battlehammer
I doubt it . the dudes a morron.

lando005
Originally posted by Battlehammer
I doubt it . the dudes a morron. sometimes yes but he has his moments like for example did you know he can disrupt the electrical impulses in a person's brain effectively leaving the helpless? brain scrabbler for the win

Battlehammer
Originally posted by lando005
sometimes yes but he has his moments like for example did you know he can disrupt the electrical impulses in a person's brain effectively leaving the helpless? brain scrabbler for the win
to bad that would do nothing............

a lightning bolt would do that by thousand fold and Logan was fine.

Swanky-Tuna
He could suspend Wolverine by his bones and take his time thinking of what to do.

Battlehammer
he does not have the type of ability nor have I ever seen it displayed. Unless you ahve evidence other wise.

lando005
Originally posted by Battlehammer
to bad that would do nothing............

a lightning bolt would do that by thousand fold and Logan was fine. i was hoping you would say something like that. big big difference between the two there. what he did was disrupt all brain functions in the body you can't move you cant do anything and it's not a instant thing he can keep it up as long as he wanted to what can wolverine do if he stops the electrical impulses from his brain telling his body to move? he can also cause him extreme pain by stimulating the impulse which he has been shown to do probably wont kill him but he can ko him that way easily

godking
Originally posted by lando005
i was hoping you would say something like that. big big difference between the two there. what he did was disrupt all brain functions in the body you can't move you cant do anything and it's not a instant thing he can keep it up as long as he wanted to what can wolverine do if he stops the electrical impulses from his brain telling his body to move? he can also cause him extreme pain by stimulating the impulse which he has been shown to do probably wont kill him but he can ko him that way easily You are correct.

And before someone comes in and claims that Wolverines healing factor would deal with it there would be nothing for his healing factor to heal since Electro would not be destroying anything obly disrupting the electrical impulses of his brain.

Apolloknight
Originally posted by godking
You are correct.

And before someone comes in and claims that Wolverines healing factor would deal with it there would be nothing for his healing factor to heal since Electro would not be destroying anything obly disrupting the electrical impulses of his brain.

Im having trouble with that, I agree that it could knock him out for a short period, but it wouldn't keep him down. Wolverine has healed from a complete skeleton, which means no brain, 0 nerve impulses.

I believe his healing factor extends beyond just...sense pain/heal pain.

I don't know, Im not the wolverine expert, so I could be wrong.

Battlehammer
funny how people think impulses to the brain is not casuing damage......because it is.

Apolloknight
Originally posted by Battlehammer
funny how people think impulses to the brain is not casuing damage......because it is.

The attack itself wouldn't cause to much damage if any at all, the fact that your nervous system is shut down could cause major problems throughout your body however. Think of it as an EMP.

So, yes and no.

llagrok
Electro has great potential, but the odds of him actually taking this :/

Battlehammer
Originally posted by Apolloknight
The attack itself wouldn't cause to much damage if any at all, the fact that your nervous system is shut down could cause major problems throughout your body however. Think of it as an EMP.

So, yes and no.
here the problem it still causes damage which means it can be healled.

Battlehammer
Originally posted by llagrok
Electro has great potential, but the odds of him actually taking this :/
agreed just like pritty much ever spiderman villian

Apolloknight
Originally posted by Battlehammer
here the problem it still causes damage which means it can be healled.

Well of course, even if he frys his nervous system, he will still heal eventually, just not before he's knocked out.

Cutting of someones nervous system is a very powerful ability to have. The chain reaction caused in the body would be devastating.

Battlehammer
Originally posted by Apolloknight
Well of course, even if he frys his nervous system, he will still heal eventually, just not before he's knocked out.

Cutting of someones nervous system is a very powerful ability to have. The chain reaction caused in the body would be devastating.
same would happen if you caught shot by a stun gun or lightning both of which did nothing to wolverine

Swanky-Tuna
Originally posted by Battlehammer
he does not have the type of ability nor have I ever seen it displayed. Unless you ahve evidence other wise.
I don't have the pictures on this computer or on my photobucket but he was peppering Spider-man with a bunch of crap. Also, he busted into that prison whilst flying and shielding himself Magneto-style.

Here, it's in the respect thread - http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f95/t411702.html

Gecko4lif
Originally posted by godking
You are correct.

And before someone comes in and claims that Wolverines healing factor would deal with it there would be nothing for his healing factor to heal since Electro would not be destroying anything obly disrupting the electrical impulses of his brain.

It has been stated many time cannon that logan only survives because of his brin (which in incased in a indestructable metal)

Battlehammer
no it has not. thats a false statement

Gecko4lif
Originally posted by Battlehammer
no it has not. thats a false statement
Yes it had.

Prof X has said it at least 3 times

Battlehammer
Originally posted by Gecko4lif
Yes it had.

Prof X has said it at least 3 times
again no he has not and please prove it.

Logan brain ahs been damage and destroy before and he came back from it.

Gecko4lif
Originally posted by Battlehammer
again no he has not and please prove it.

Logan brain ahs been damage and destroy before and he came back from it.

If his brain has been damaged the rest of his body was fine (or at least some portion)

And i dont have to prove it

Read every issue of every x man comic prof X is in and youll find all of them (adventually)

Battlehammer
Originally posted by Gecko4lif
If his brain has been damaged the rest of his body was fine (or at least some portion)

And i dont have to prove it

Read every issue of every x man comic prof X is in and youll find all of them (adventually)
I have and I own them alland no he has not.

The closest he ever came to saying that was when he did the x-men protocalls. he said if you removed Logans had very far from it body it will likly not reform. Which was proven false. Becuase back during WW2 Logans head was removed from his body and ti simply regrow.

so please don't give me your crap.


I know far mroe about wolverine and the x-men then you do.

Gecko4lif
Read them again and post which ones you read

your obviously rusty

Battlehammer
no im not. Your simply wrong.

wolverine 48 proves your wrong

as does venom on the run issue 2 and 3.

There also wolverine 51 written by miller

Your wrong. You have no evidence. You need to admitt you have nothing. And I can't believe yuou are trying to argue facts about wolverine with me

Gecko4lif
Originally posted by Battlehammer
no im not. Your simply wrong.

wolverine 48 proves your wrong

as does venom on the run issue 2 and 3.

There also wolverine 51 written by miller

Your wrong. You have no evidence. You need to admitt you have nothing. And I can't believe yuou are trying to argue facts about wolverine with me

Post scans cool

Battlehammer
dont have a scanner not that it matters

in venom on the run eh got hit by a nuke

in wolverine 48 he had gotten turn into a skeleton and then healed from it.

51 Logans ehad was cut off and then he was burned to almost nothing

Gecko4lif
Originally posted by Battlehammer
dont have a scanner not that it matters

in venom on the run eh got hit by a nuke

in wolverine 48 he had gotten turn into a skeleton and then healed from it.

51 Logans ehad was cut off and then he was burned to almost nothing
venom hardly matters

Skeleton mean skull ws there and his brain was sittin pretty inside it

Logan 51 youll have to post scans of so i can judge them

Battlehammer
Originally posted by Gecko4lif
venom hardly matters

Skeleton mean skull ws there and his brain was sittin pretty inside it

Logan 51 youll have to post scans of so i can judge them

why does venom on the run not matter..........it a fact it happen.


his brain was completely destroyed..........the tempature a lone would have made certain of that.

I don't have scanns and it does npot matter becuase it was stated in the text.

Swanky-Tuna
He can put Wolverine's claw into his own neck and dig into the spinal cord until he's paralyzed, then leave it there so it can't heal up.

Battlehammer
impossiable adamatium skeleton wont allow it to happen nor does electro have that abiltiy

Swanky-Tuna
Originally posted by Battlehammer
impossiable adamatium skeleton wont allow it to happen nor does electro have that abiltiy
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/4944/mksm03090ia.th.jpg

If you can magnetically life cars and buses you can dodge a ball... I mean lift Wolverine.

And what do you mean "impossible"? If his spine was simply a metal tube down his back he wouldn't be able to bend his spine.

NiņoAraņa
Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/4944/mksm03090ia.th.jpg

If you can magnetically life cars and buses you can dodge a ball... I mean lift Wolverine.

And what do you mean "impossible"? If his spine was simply a metal tube down his back he wouldn't be able to bend his spine. are those nikes? ermmnone

i say Electro post non-retardation takes a decent majority.

Battlehammer
Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/4944/mksm03090ia.th.jpg

If you can magnetically life cars and buses you can dodge a ball... I mean lift Wolverine.

And what do you mean "impossible"? If his spine was simply a metal tube down his back he wouldn't be able to bend his spine.
he can't though. Logan not amde out of what a car is.

It a comic remeber. Logans enetire spine is connect and unbreakable

Swanky-Tuna
Originally posted by Battlehammer
he can't though. Logan not amde out of what a car is.
Is adamantium not phased by magnetism? Magneto has a lot of 'splainin' to do then.


I can't remember a single instance of Wolverine's metal coated skeleton not looking exactly like a normal skeleton except metallic. And with the claw parts.

lando005
ok i didn't realize dillon was getting this close to mags.... even better so that's 2 ways he can end this and he's not healing from the brain attack atleast not while it's active he's not causing you damage in the normal sense he doesn't have to he can just stop the transmissions to the body that says "move the limbs" and stimulate the ones that say "i'm in pain" quite handy little trick kind of a boot leg tp attack. and there is nothing wolverine can do about it. and as shown above he is starting to master electro magnetics so he would also be able to simply lift him with his power cant do much suspended in the air

Battlehammer
Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Is adamantium not phased by magnetism? Magneto has a lot of 'splainin' to do then.


I can't remember a single instance of Wolverine's metal coated skeleton not looking exactly like a normal skeleton except metallic. And with the claw parts.

adamtium is not effected the same way such as normal metals are which was explain by beast in astonishing x-men. Magneto has also made references to this as well.


really sicne i have never seen logans skeleton in 616 not being attached. new x-men showed it attached as did his civil war run.

lando005
Originally posted by Battlehammer
adamtium is not effected the same way such as normal metals are which was explain by beast in astonishing x-men. Magneto has also made references to this as well.


really sicne i have never seen logans skeleton in 616 not being attached. new x-men showed it attached as did his civil war run. now your reaching a bit. So are you saying that adamantium is not effected by magnetism yes or no.

also i think the point he was trying to make was his skeleton is not one solid mass his bones are coated but the joints are not other wise he wouldnt be able to move

Battlehammer
Originally posted by lando005
now your reaching a bit. So are you saying that adamantium is not effected by magnetism yes or no.

also i think the point he was trying to make was his skeleton is not one solid mass his bones are coated but the joints are not other wise he wouldnt be able to move
it is, but it actaully harder to effect. Beast explains it actaully in astonishign x-men. jsut becuase you can magnatize normal metal does not mean you can magnatize adamtium.


here the thing it a comic book. and in the comic world his bones are connected

lando005
Originally posted by Battlehammer
it is, but it actaully harder to effect. Beast explains it actaully in astonishign x-men. jsut becuase you can magnatize normal metal does not mean you can magnatize adamtium.


here the thing it a comic book. and in the comic world his bones are connected it's harder to manipulate but it's still metal and thus can be effected that way it's just a matter of power output involved it's not like there is a different kind of magnetism just for addy

i'm not doubting his bones are connected but they are not one solid piece if his joints were also covered in addy he would not be able to move that's the point he was making the joints themselves are pretty normal(dexterity and durability aside ofcource)

batdude123
Electro wins this.

Apolloknight
Originally posted by batdude123
Electro wins this.


co-signed.

Battlehammer
Originally posted by lando005
it's harder to manipulate but it's still metal and thus can be effected that way it's just a matter of power output involved it's not like there is a different kind of magnetism just for addy
there is though. For example beast made a device that magnatized metal, but wolverines admatium was uneffected.

Originally posted by lando005
i'm not doubting his bones are connected but they are not one solid piece if his joints were also covered in addy he would not be able to move that's the point he was making the joints themselves are pretty normal(dexterity and durability aside ofcource)
does not matter. Logans head, arms and so forth can not be cut off.

lando005
Originally posted by Battlehammer
there is though. For example beast made a device that magnatized metal, but wolverines admatium was uneffected.


does not matter. Logans head, arms and so forth can not be cut off. there's differences in the magnetic fields like having a magnetic and non magnetic screw driver but it's still metal and can be effected just the same.... i think i know where your going with this but it's still vulnerable to magnetics end of story


ad i know they cant be cut off but it is possible to pull him apart at the joints where it's just flesh

Battlehammer
Originally posted by lando005

it not thought.......there attached.


it been tried and characters all failed to do so

lando005
Originally posted by Battlehammer
it not thought.......there attached.


it been tried and characters all failed to do so it is the skeleton is not one solid bone there for it is possible to do it. The joints are made of flesh not addy that logic can not be escaped. It doesn't matter if one or 2 people fail to do it it's still very much possible. Of course marvel's not going to show him getting ripped apart at the joints though so we'll probably never see it.

Battlehammer
Originally posted by lando005
it is the skeleton is not one solid bone there for it is possible to do it. The joints are made of flesh not addy that logic can not be escaped. It doesn't matter if one or 2 people fail to do it it's still very much possible. Of course marvel's not going to show him getting ripped apart at the joints though so we'll probably never see it.
were talking about a place were people lift biuldings and your telling me some one bones all being attached is not possiable?


No his bones are all attach it is fact. It been shown thatr way and proven.

I don't care if you dislike it. it is fact.

Hulk has tried, Ba'al has tried. sabertooth has tried. each one failed

He was shown in civil war to have all his bones connected.

He was shown in new x-men to have his bones all connected.

It a fact. Jsut becuase you dislike the fact does not mean it not a fact.

also if Logan could be ripped apart marvel would have no problem doing it like they did with ulitmate wolverine

masterbruce
Magneto can rip Logan's skeleton apart...in fact Magneto could kill Logan.

Battlehammer
yes he could .

lando005
Originally posted by Battlehammer
were talking about a place were people lift biuldings and your telling me some one bones all being attached is not possiable?


No his bones are all attach it is fact. It been shown thatr way and proven.

I don't care if you dislike it. it is fact.

Hulk has tried, Ba'al has tried. sabertooth has tried. each one failed

He was shown in civil war to have all his bones connected.

He was shown in new x-men to have his bones all connected.

It a fact. Jsut becuase you dislike the fact does not mean it not a fact.

also if Logan could be ripped apart marvel would have no problem doing it like they did with ulitmate wolverine what the hell are you talking about? where did i say i disliked anything and said it wasnt fact? this is why people call you a rabid fanboy. Also i know his skeleton is attached so is ur so is mine so is every other being with a damn back bone. That doesn't mean they are one solid piece. So what your trying to say is that nothing could ever tear me a part at the joints? think about it we may be talking about comics but the still use some sort of logic in their comics. brute force couldnt do it so someone with electromagenetic powers cant?.... oh isnt addy also weaker in ult marvel yea thought so. Just because you need it broken down for you barney style I KNOW THE BONES ARE ATTACHED BUT THEY ARE NOT ONE SOLID PIECE THEREFOR THERE IS A GAP THAT SOMEONE WITH MAGNETIC POWERS CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF

and dont accuse me of things i didnt say you make yourself look bad

Battlehammer
http://img301.imageshack.us/my.php?image=whatthe7zaqz8.jpg
http://img473.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolbhx3.jpg
http://img473.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolvievsnova6wa3xfjq3.jpg
these three scanns say other wise.

as does the fact sabertooth failed to pull Logan apart

Ba'al failed to pull Logan a part.

Swanky-Tuna
Avoiding this crap, what if he just encases him in metal so he can't move?

Battlehammer
funny how he never shows this vs spiderman...........


if he fights like I would vs wolverine the electro wins

now if he verses wolverine like he does spiderman he gets stomped

Swanky-Tuna
Originally posted by Battlehammer
funny how he never shows this vs spiderman...........


if he fights like I would vs wolverine the electro wins

now if he verses wolverine like he does spiderman he gets stomped
He kind of has mixed showings. He busted into that villain prison pretty easily and was manhandling Spidey in those scans in the respect thread. But he failed to escape Ironman's shield and passed out in fear when Luke Cake threatened to rough him up with webbed up hands.

lando005
Originally posted by Battlehammer
http://img301.imageshack.us/my.php?image=whatthe7zaqz8.jpg
http://img473.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolbhx3.jpg
http://img473.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolvievsnova6wa3xfjq3.jpg
these three scanns say other wise.

as does the fact sabertooth failed to pull Logan apart

Ba'al failed to pull Logan a part. did you even listen to a word i said? and besides the scans you posted helped my argument look at the second one you put up the one with logan getting fried last panel where his left shoulder is clearly shows his arm separate from his shoulder. his bones are not fused together what is soo hard to understand about that

Battlehammer
Originally posted by lando005
did you even listen to a word i said? and besides the scans you posted helped my argument look at the second one you put up the one with logan getting fried last panel where his left shoulder is clearly shows his arm separate from his shoulder. his bones are not fused together what is soo hard to understand about that
here the thing they are fused to gather. The pictures prove it.

Not tomention the last one proves it with out a doubt.


Not sure what so hard for you to comprehend.

by the way it is attached if it was not the arm would fall from the rest of the skeleton.

masterbruce
Originally posted by Battlehammer
here the thing they are fused to gather. The pictures prove it.

Not tomention the last one proves it with out a doubt.


Not sure what so hard for you to comprehend.


logan's bones are not fused together. if they were, he wouldn't be able to move.

Battlehammer
Originally posted by masterbruce
logan's bones are not fused together. if they were, he wouldn't be able to move.
yes they are . and again this is a comic book were people can destroy the world with a punch.............


It a fact there fused togather. It shown on pannel

people as strong as the hulk have failed to pull him apart.

there really no debating it.

Swanky-Tuna
Encase him in metal.

masterbruce
Originally posted by Battlehammer
yes they are . and again this is a comic book were people can destroy the world with a punch.............


It a fact there fused togather. It shown on pannel

people as strong as the hulk have failed to pull him apart.

there really no debating it.

meh not gonna debate you on that

although you realize that if they were fused together, then technically he wouldn't be able to move

lando005
Originally posted by Battlehammer
yes they are . and again this is a comic book were people can destroy the world with a punch.............


It a fact there fused togather. It shown on pannel

people as strong as the hulk have failed to pull him apart.

there really no debating it. our bias for wolverine is not only sad it's sick. if his bones were fused together then he could not move he has joints the joints are not fused together yes these are comics but come on now they still use some common sense. That is a sad cop out and you know it. Did you go over the panel of your own scan where i pointed that out? Everyone's bones are together but that doesn't mean they cant ever be separated.

Muck101
K, back to the subject of Electro vs Wolvie. If electro did shock him, the electricity would be carried through logans skeleton, yes? So it would destroy his brain. This is my question; If Wolvie regrew his brain, wouldn't he be a vegetable? completely brain-dead?

Battlehammer
Originally posted by lando005
our bias for wolverine is not only sad it's sick. if his bones were fused together then he could not move he has joints the joints are not fused together yes these are comics but come on now they still use some common sense. That is a sad cop out and you know it. Did you go over the panel of your own scan where i pointed that out? Everyone's bones are together but that doesn't mean they cant ever be separated.
went over it and if you were actaully correct the arm would have fallen far from the body which it did not

There nothing bias with what I am saying it pure fact that the bones are fused togather.

This is proven by the scanns

This is proven by events such as Silver Samuria trying to cut Logans head off.

This is proven by Ba'al failing to ripp Logan apart by the arms.
you have no e vidence for your claim while I have all the evidence.

so please tell me who being bias now?

Apolloknight
Originally posted by Battlehammer
http://img301.imageshack.us/my.php?image=whatthe7zaqz8.jpg
http://img473.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolbhx3.jpg
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these three scanns say other wise.

as does the fact sabertooth failed to pull Logan apart

Ba'al failed to pull Logan a part.

How do those three scans proves that his bones are fused together?

Battlehammer
Originally posted by Apolloknight
How do those three scans proves that his bones are fused together?
are you kidding me?

If they werent they fall apart..........

not to mention the last one his arm would have fallen off......

was that a serous question

llagrok
Originally posted by Muck101
K, back to the subject of Electro vs Wolvie. If electro did shock him, the electricity would be carried through logans skeleton, yes? So it would destroy his brain. This is my question; If Wolvie regrew his brain, wouldn't he be a vegetable? completely brain-dead?

He shouldn't be capable of regrowing his brain. According to the Xavier files, the healing factor lies in his brain and removing his head should kill him completely.

Apolloknight
Originally posted by Battlehammer
are you kidding me?

If they werent they fall apart..........

not to mention the last one his arm would have fallen off......

was that a serous question

You do know what it means to "fuse" something together dont you?

Battlehammer
Originally posted by llagrok
He shouldn't be capable of regrowing his brain. According to the Xavier files, the healing factor lies in his brain and removing his head should kill him completely.
false.


actaully the theory was that if you removed Logans head far enough from his body that could work.

however that was disproven by an issue by miller when that actaully happens.

also Logans healing factor is not in his brain. It is actaully proven very long ago to be in ever single cell of his

Battlehammer
Originally posted by Apolloknight
You do know what it means to "fuse" something together dont you?
there attached. It a fact. They don't seperate no matter what type of damage is given to them.

Muck101
Allright, if he did regrow his brain, wouldn't he be brain-dead? no motor-functions at all? So electro wins by default retardation.

Battlehammer
not really. Logan has healed his brain so fast it was fine before hulk could hit him again

yugotank
Originally posted by masterbruce
meh not gonna debate you on that

although you realize that if they were fused together, then technically he wouldn't be able to move

Here we go again with the bones thing. My opinion in the Wolverine VS Spiderman match was that Peter could rip his head and limbs off....I am no expert in "Wolverine" anatomy..............But Battlehammer and others pointed out that they can't be torn apart....I was thinking that his bones are attached together like most humans' are.....via tendons and muscles......They are not.....How they are attached I don't know.....I would think they would have added "extra" bones added to form some type of hinge system to maintain mobility........Otherwise his bones would fall apart when Electro burns all the flesh off.

In comic books Wolverine's bones stay put ....no explanation given....That's just the way it is and we all must live with it,like it or not.

Same as .....How does Superman really fly??....He went from leaping tall buildings to flying.....no explanation given......That's just the way it is and we all must live with it,like it or not.

Lightning is hotter than the sun.Yet people have been hit by it and lived. Some real life electricians have grabbed a live powrline and get zapped good and live....others have died.....some have lost their whole arm from the damage.....Electricity is funny that way.

I would love to see Electro win this match but being he jobs to Spiderman I can't see him not jobbing to the ever popular Wolverine.

Electro should win but..........We all know Wolverine would win....because in comic books the "good guy" always does. confused

lando005
Originally posted by Battlehammer
went over it and if you were actaully correct the arm would have fallen far from the body which it did not

There nothing bias with what I am saying it pure fact that the bones are fused togather.

This is proven by the scanns

This is proven by events such as Silver Samuria trying to cut Logans head off.

This is proven by Ba'al failing to ripp Logan apart by the arms.
you have no e vidence for your claim while I have all the evidence.

so please tell me who being bias now? quite simply you.

you say you went over the scan did you or did you not see the very thing i pointed out to you in the scan you posted. Do you understand to concept of the fact the his skeleton is not one big bone? if you do then you knnow that it is made of different pieces. Now try to put it all together if his skeleton is made of different pieces that means it is possible for it to be disassembled. His bones are coated not fused they have to be in different pieces in order for him to move

Acrosurge
I'm confused. Why can't Electro jam Logan's synapses and then just cook him at his leisure?

masterbruce
Originally posted by Acrosurge
I'm confused. Why can't Electro jam Logan's synapses and then just cook him at his leisure?

he could

Acrosurge
Originally posted by masterbruce
he could Then how is this a fight?

masterbruce
Originally posted by Acrosurge
Then how is this a fight?

cuz he's a big jobber

Acrosurge
Originally posted by masterbruce
cuz he's a big jobber But outside of the Rhino, KMC usually debates by top feats, no?

lando005
Originally posted by Acrosurge
I'm confused. Why can't Electro jam Logan's synapses and then just cook him at his leisure? he can he doesn't even have to touch him to beat him

yugotank
Originally posted by lando005
quite simply you.

you say you went over the scan did you or did you not see the very thing i pointed out to you in the scan you posted. Do you understand to concept of the fact the his skeleton is not one big bone? if you do then you knnow that it is made of different pieces. Now try to put it all together if his skeleton is made of different pieces that means it is possible for it to be disassembled. His bones are coated not fused they have to be in different pieces in order for him to move

In comic books his bones stay linked. It's impossible to take them apart. I know it defies even "comic book logic/physics". I don't like it but "It is what it is".

Right? confused

lando005
Originally posted by yugotank
In comic books his bones stay linked. It's impossible to take them apart. I know it defies even "comic book logic/physics". I don't like it but "It is what it is".

Right? confused no not really one of the scans capt put up to try and show that clearly showed his arm separate from his shoulders and close inspection of his skeleton shows that it functions just like a normal one save for the claws.

yugotank
Originally posted by lando005
no not really one of the scans capt put up to try and show that clearly showed his arm separate from his shoulders and close inspection of his skeleton shows that it functions just like a normal one save for the claws.

Ummm ....Don't you get it? I'm with you on this one...Like it's been what I've been trying to say for the past few weeks but there is nothing you or I can do about it.... mad

"It is what it is" cause Marvel says that it is. I don't know what issue of which book it is stated that they are somehow "held together" no matter what....... What issue? Battlehammer do you know? You seem to know your Wolverine history.

How can he regenerate from one single cell without "fuel" (proteins,water,etc)..???.....?

How can he retain his memory if he's down to his last cell? All that info stored in one cell? WOW! He seems to be god like. Immortal ? With that kind of healing factor he should never get KOed...He should heal before he hits the ground. Right? .....I don't know.........."Dammit Jim, I'm an actor not a doctor!"

I do like Woverine but it seems he has no limits. It's the reason I don't care for Superman that much.

lando005
Originally posted by yugotank
Ummm ....Don't you get it? I'm with you on this one...Like it's been what I've been trying to say for the past few weeks but there is nothing you or I can do about it.... mad

"It is what it is" cause Marvel says that it is. I don't know what issue of which book it is stated that they are somehow "held together" no matter what....... What issue? Battlehammer do you know? You seem to know your Wolverine history.

How can he regenerate from one single cell without "fuel" (proteins,water,etc)..???.....?

How can he retain his memory if he's down to his last cell? All that info stored in one cell? WOW! He seems to be god like. Immortal ? With that kind of healing factor he should never get KOed...He should heal before he hits the ground. Right? .....I don't know.........."Dammit Jim, I'm an actor not a doctor!"

I do like Woverine but it seems he has no limits. It's the reason I don't care for Superman that much. i know your with me on this but it sounds like the whole wolverine thing has gotten to you they really have hyped him up for people like hammer to drool over you should ask jinzin for info on wolverine h's a much more level headed source. I agree with ya the exact same reasons why wolverine isnt like is the same reasons why superman isnt liked

yugotank
Originally posted by lando005
i know your with me on this but it sounds like the whole wolverine thing has gotten to you they really have hyped him up for people like hammer to drool over you should ask jinzin for info on wolverine h's a much more level headed source. I agree with ya the exact same reasons why wolverine isnt like is the same reasons why superman isnt liked

Does the jinzin have the answers?


If Marvel said they are held together by magic I would be fine with that. At least it's something.....right?

Sometimes a wrong answer is better than no answer. Right? confused

Battlehammer
the scanns all showed them held togather. I dont see the point in argueing it. Lando what ever hsi anme is will think he right no matter what evdience is presented to him.

Im not even gunna bother with this. Ive proven it countless times. I don't need to prove a well known fact that Logans boens can not be teared apart.

funny that he thinks one of my scanns showed them seperated when it did not.

also one of my scanns clearly showed the bones completely attached to the others.

lando005
Originally posted by yugotank
Does the jinzin have the answers?


If Marvel said they are held together by magic I would be fine with that. At least it's something.....right?

Sometimes a wrong answer is better than no answer. Right? confused yea they should give some type of explanation for some things

lando005
Originally posted by Battlehammer
the scanns all showed them held togather. I dont see the point in argueing it. Lando what ever hsi anme is will think he right no matter what evdience is presented to him.

Im not even gunna bother with this. Ive proven it countless times. I don't need to prove a well known fact that Logans boens can not be teared apart.

funny that he thinks one of my scanns showed them seperated when it did not.

also one of my scanns clearly showed the bones completely attached to the others. you even said your self he they were separate. you dont understand how a skeleton works. his bones are attached but not fused that means each bone is separate from one another they fit together as parts i even pointed out the exact panel of your own scan you really cant be helped can you just because they didnt shatter into their different pieces when he was burned to a crisp does not mean they are one piece they have to show the skeleton landing in tact because they are going to have him regenerate a few panels later and it woulb be really hard to sell to people if his bones are scattered everywhere. This is like talking to a brick wall

Battlehammer
no I know how a skeleton works. it a comic book and in the comic world Logans bones do nto seperate. it a fact. which I proved with my scanns. He can't be ripepd apart. He can't be cut apart even by the most exspert of swordsmen.

your debating pure facts

Battlehammer
........this proves it with out a doubt

lando005
Originally posted by Battlehammer
no I know how a skeleton works. it a comic book and in the comic world Logans bones do nto seperate. it a fact. which I proved with my scanns. He can't be ripepd apart. He can't be cut apart even by the most exspert of swordsmen.

your debating pure facts his skeleton is the same as yours or mine only difference is it's coated in metal and has claws not everything in comics is explained away with it's just a comic so they dont need to use logic. the only reason they ever show his bones falling down in tact is because they plan on having him regenerate later. and it would be a whole lot easier to do that if they were together rather than trying to explain how he can heal right if his bones are in a pile.if his skeleton was one bone he would not be able to move how can i make that any more clear for you.

Battlehammer
Originally posted by lando005
his skeleton is the same as yours or mine only difference is it's coated in metal and has claws not everything in comics is explained away with it's just a comic so they dont need to use logic. the only reason they ever show his bones falling down in tact is because they plan on having him regenerate later. and it would be a whole lot easier to do that if they were together rather than trying to explain how he can heal right if his bones are in a pile.if his skeleton was one bone he would not be able to move how can i make that any more clear for you.
yes they don't have the porblem with DP..........nor sabertooth.

Logans bones are attached. You can dislike it all you want, but it fact.

it been shown. it been stated he can't be pulled apart becuase of his adamtium bones. He had peaople try and cut in between the bones and failed to because there attached.

It a straight up fact. It is sad I have to have this debate again after me and jinzin have already proven this to KMC

lando005
Originally posted by Battlehammer
yes they don't have the porblem with DP..........nor sabertooth.

Logans bones are attached. You can dislike it all you want, but it fact.

it been shown. it been stated he can't be pulled apart becuase of his adamtium bones. He had peaople try and cut in between the bones and failed to because there attached.

It a straight up fact. It is sad I have to have this debate again after me and jinzin have already proven this to KMC jinzin hasn't said anything about this only you. Think about it a second how much easier is it to sell to people if he gets burn to the bone and falls with his skeleton in tact oppose to falling in pieces to try and heal? that is the only reason they are shown together not because they are fused. Hos bones are attached not fused meaning there are more than one. I dont know why i even try with you you would defend wolverine on your death bed

yugotank
Originally posted by Battlehammer
yes they don't have the porblem with DP..........nor sabertooth.

Logans bones are attached. You can dislike it all you want, but it fact.

it been shown. it been stated he can't be pulled apart becuase of his adamtium bones. He had peaople try and cut in between the bones and failed to because there attached.

It a straight up fact. It is sad I have to have this debate again after me and jinzin have already proven this to KMC

I don't think that "his bones are connected" is the issue...I accept that they are............."HOW" they are connected has never been fully explained? Has it?

An elbow or knee can be "pinned" together. The shoulder, hip, and rib cage are not really touching other bones.They must "float" in order to give full movement.....What is holding them together? The only thing I can think of is he must have extra bones/parts similar to a Terminator.

Battlehammer
Originally posted by lando005
jinzin hasn't said anything about this only you. Think about it a second how much easier is it to sell to people if he gets burn to the bone and falls with his skeleton in tact oppose to falling in pieces to try and heal? that is the only reason they are shown together not because they are fused. Hos bones are attached not fused meaning there are more than one. I dont know why i even try with you you would defend wolverine on your death bed
ask him if you like please I love for you to ask jinzin.

It has nothing to do with defending wolverine it has to do with facts.

The fact is wolverine bones are atatched are are always shown to be. You can make some stupid excuse all you want, but won't change the fact that they are.

We see his bones attached. We see it in the three scanns I showed. We know people with 100+ strength have been unable to pull Logan apart and Logan states it becuase of his adamatium bones. We have master swordsmen trying to cut inbetween the vertabra only to find out they can't.

You are trying to dispute known facts yet you have the nevre to act like I am the bais one?

I have facts you have nothing. All you have is what the real world would allow which means crap were people can teleport, fly, shoot optic blasts out of there eyes, lift up biuldings.

funny how I don't see you argueing with why colossus can move or thing for that matter

godking
Originally posted by Battlehammer
funny how people think impulses to the brain is not casuing damage......because it is. He is stopping the impulses from reaching their destination he is not damaging anything.

Its the perfect attack against a guy like wolverine an indirect attack.

Battlehammer
actaully by stoping the impalse he still damageing the body though slightly. he killing cells which will heal.

Gecko4lif
Originally posted by Battlehammer
actaully by stoping the impalse he still damageing the body though slightly. he killing cells which will heal.
o by stopping impules he is preventing the nerurons from sparking

this doesnt damage them at all

Infact it is more a a stasis then anything

Apolloknight
Originally posted by Gecko4lif
o by stopping impules he is preventing the nerurons from sparking

this doesnt damage them at all

Infact it is more a a stasis then anything


yes

jinzin
Originally posted by lando005
jinzin hasn't said anything about this only you. Think about it a second how much easier is it to sell to people if he gets burn to the bone and falls with his skeleton in tact oppose to falling in pieces to try and heal? that is the only reason they are shown together not because they are fused. Hos bones are attached not fused meaning there are more than one. I dont know why i even try with you you would defend wolverine on your death bed

no I've had to argue this point many many manty times... Logan's skeletal structure is bonded on a molecular level that has turned his admantium into an entirely new bonded metal.. It's also caused his skeleton to become one large articulated piece as opposed to seperate pieces.

Ba'al a class 100 who's smacked around Wendigo, couldn't pry him apart, Logan atributed this to his skeleton.
Hulk tried to rip Wolverine apart the same exact way.. Nothing happened..

Wolverine's skeleton is bonded. As capt stated it is a fact.

jinzin
Originally posted by yugotank
Does the jinzin have the answers?


If Marvel said they are held together by magic I would be fine with that. At least it's something.....right?

Sometimes a wrong answer is better than no answer. Right? confused

Wolverine's skeletal structure was bonded by nanomachines I believe.

Battlehammer
Originally posted by jinzin
no I've had to argue this point many many manty times... Logan's skeletal structure is bonded on a molecular level that has turned his admantium into an entirely new bonded metal.. It's also caused his skeleton to become one large articulated piece as opposed to seperate pieces.

Ba'al a class 100 who's smacked around Wendigo, couldn't pry him apart, Logan atributed this to his skeleton.
Hulk tried to rip Wolverine apart the same exact way.. Nothing happened..

Wolverine's skeleton is bonded. As capt stated it is a fact.
thank you

yugotank
Originally posted by jinzin
Wolverine's skeletal structure was bonded by nanomachines I believe.

Are you sure? When some people follow a statement with "I believe",some people (no you,per say) are not 100% sure.

How do his claws retract back and forth?

Are they bonded by nanomachines - then unbonded- then bonded again?

Am I one of only a handful of people who question this?

Swanky-Tuna
Originally posted by jinzin
no I've had to argue this point many many manty times... Logan's skeletal structure is bonded on a molecular level that has turned his admantium into an entirely new bonded metal.. It's also caused his skeleton to become one large articulated piece as opposed to seperate pieces.

Ba'al a class 100 who's smacked around Wendigo, couldn't pry him apart, Logan atributed this to his skeleton.
Hulk tried to rip Wolverine apart the same exact way.. Nothing happened..

Wolverine's skeleton is bonded. As capt stated it is a fact.
Is every single gap encapsulated in adamantium?

yugotank
Originally posted by jinzin
no I've had to argue this point many many manty times... Logan's skeletal structure is bonded on a molecular level that has turned his admantium into an entirely new bonded metal.. It's also caused his skeleton to become one large articulated piece as opposed to seperate pieces.

Ba'al a class 100 who's smacked around Wendigo, couldn't pry him apart, Logan atributed this to his skeleton.
Hulk tried to rip Wolverine apart the same exact way.. Nothing happened..

Wolverine's skeleton is bonded. As capt stated it is a fact.



"It's also caused his skeleton to become one large articulated piece as opposed to seperate pieces. "

One large articulated piece?

Yes we all know it's "comic book" physics but if I said I had a six foot solid marble statue that can "articulate" most would say I'm crazy.

I think in the old days I would have a shot at winning a Marvel No Prize on this one.

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