Bond's impact on reality.

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Clovie
Do you notice in how many situations there are some connections to Bond?


example:
the beginning of taxi 3.

yerssot
but a movie isn't reality so how can you mention taxi 3? confused

but anyway, for movies: XXX, Jason Bourne, ... everything that has a spy in it is based on Bond or takes elements from it.
And then of course you have what Bond means to people... it liberated the movie with in example very sexual scenes (taking off stockings and honey's appearance) were very raunchy at that time...
Or what about the elements of reality it had? The cold war? or more recently the power of hte media (TND) or the danger of science (DaD)

So in short, Bond has had quite an impact on the movie experience... But I fear that if it won't renew, it will lose that impact

Clovie
good point. but i meant like everything..so put it inot word reality..i gues it was not the best idea confused


i think it will never loose it. it's classic


there was an advert of tv.
about closing car in j. bond style.

yerssot
well, the old movies are classics, yes but I don't think the after GE movies have gotten that status yet.

I mostly mean that the bondmovies need to re-invent movies or talk about subjects that are yet to be talked about in movies in a mor eclear way so that later on we will be able again to say that they were a revolution in the movieprocess

Clovie
considering the fact that from the movies after GE i remember only songs and remote controll for a car...they didn't get big status yet.

that will be hard sad
everything seems to be filmed already messed

yerssot
but if they got it more clearly out... DaD was about the danger of technology which is a very important discussion point but I think that failed big time

Clovie
i had no idea. for me it was about fencing and invisible car. :cofnused:

yerssot
see, it totally missed the point

Clovie
there was too much fx and halle

yerssot
and unbelievable things... but the intention was there, seriously

Clovie
but it was totally unnoticable stick out tongue



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there are male-parfums called Bond. blink

yerssot
granted, you had to look harder but why just give it that easily away?


cause bond means smelly in polish? stick out tongue

Clovie
because it would be cleareer then? huh



there is no such a word in polish stick out tongue

yerssot
no, cause if it's that clear people will say it's too tutoring and they don't want that... seriously, they want layers without being an onion or an ogre


bondy? stick out tongue

Clovie
but I like layers bag and i hate onion.


i don't recall existence of this word as well stick out tongue


In that book I was reading yesterday, Bond was mentioned at least 5 times big grin

yerssot
so perhaps you're an ogre wink
But it's just that if the makers tell it that easy they get the comment of being too educational but if they don't do it that easy, a lot will miss the point...

Bondov then wink

which book was that? A Fleming novel?

Clovie
do i look like one? weep
so what should they do? huh

at least sounds better (but there is no 'v' in polish alphabet stick out tongue)

nope, Helen Fielding's one

yerssot
lets hope not... or you want to be big and green?
they have to find the middle between the two but it aint easy as you can guess sad

Bondof? stick out tongue why do you have to have such a nasty language? stick out tongue

what's it aboot?

Clovie
no. i don't want to be big no but i wanted to have green hair some time ago wink
they should be smart!

Bondow, i think confused and it's not nasty. look at french, they're writing thrice as many letters as they're reading messed


one jurnalist who becomes a spy and fights with terrorist and falls in love(mutuali) in one handsome blonde guy happy

yerssot

Clovie
ermm..FIona had...either red or blonde..i don't remember..
good point laughing out loud

considering it got censored.. i should feel insluted now? confused

now. she had all the gadgets and she wanted to be bond-like happy
and the guy is just handsome...and a spy and..so one stick out tongue

yerssot
red in ogre blondish in real, but nothing green stick out tongue
there is a new movie out Trainspotter 2 I believe that reminds me of Bond, in the trailer for instance there's a scene that looks like TND with the car to me

no, I censored it myself, the saying "mais " has the meaning of "damnit"

she wanted girls? stick out tongue
so he could be XXX too stick out tongue

Clovie
skin was green confused
AAA eek! I saw a beginning of that one!!! but the version was crap. and it was in english and they were speaking too unclearly sad

merde? and what did it mean? confused

no. she wanted to be a real spy!
XXX? Vin Diesel? blink

yerssot
not the hair like you wanted stick out tongue
so you didn't like it?

yeah but my idea was stronger than that yes

they don't always do such jobs though stick out tongue
yeah

Clovie
i know sad
I did. I'm waiting for better quality. bag

so what did you mean? confused

but..?
but he wasn't blonde confused

yerssot
how about you go actually see it instead of downloading it stick out tongue

what I said messed

she's female stick out tongue
Diesel is bald blink

Clovie
depends...

but it was in french blink

so what?
i know. bald doesn't equal blonde to me.

yerssot
depends on what Dexx?


yeah confused

that's baaaad yes
I was mostly refering to the impact of bond like on movies of XXX

Clovie
depends on: it's often possible to get a nice dvd-quality before it's even in the cinemas here. record was when some movie was in the cinema over a year later then i saw it. i think you kow what i mean stick out tongue

I don't know/understand french.

why?

oh..yeah. bag
it's funny... coz recently i'm finding bond similarities in almost every movie i see and every book i reaad blink

yerssot
you should just buy what you like on dvd, legal dvds mind you, and all will be well big grin

but you tried it yes

females are bad yes

like which other movies and books?

Clovie
but legal dvds are available usually about a year after a movie is in th cinemas... confused (it's often on the foreign tv sooner than that messed) confused

tried what? french? blink

me's not bad cry

hmm..that Clancy's one. it was literally mentioned..that something was looking exactly as in thunderball (or goldfinger..don't remember by now)

yerssot
yeah but I want them NOW sad (but you have to buy it on dvd!)

yeah confused

most of them then stick out tongue

Rainbow Six?

Clovie
go to england messed (is this an order?)

i'm just pretending i know languages.. 'omdat de soep was te zout.'

my friends are nice too happy too nice bag

nhaah..some other one..with Rayn..

yerssot
then I don't have subtitles stick out tongue (yes?)
"omdat de soep te zout was", then fire the cook yes

or they pretend stick out tongue

Saving Private Ryan?

Clovie
and you don't understand in english? bag (and you expect me to follow it?)

thanks for correction happy naah..it's just some kind of inside joke..there was one finnish song..it was called..in translation never again..or something, it was about spliting.and some one my friends gave it that comment laughing out loud

don't think so.

naah..
hmm... it was some continuation od the hunt of the red october. but i don't remember which book exactly bag

yerssot
I do but I want everything on my dvd stick out tongue

I have no idea what you mean but ok blink

I have no idea sad

Clovie
extra features..not-used scenes and so on? happy

there was a song. and it was commented with 'bo zupa była za słona" (it is that sentence in polish) and i saw something part of it in dutch confused

confused
it was either without remorse or kardinal of kremlin..of something else...i have no idea about english titles. and i don't even remember which i've read bag

yerssot
yeah, cause like said, I like to see how FX came to be and such yes

I don't see anything blink

so what's the polish title?

Clovie

yerssot
dutch in it confused

I don't think at all, I know... like Corran being wrong cool

Clovie
i saw that line in dutch in some conversations book confused

what has corran to do with it? huh

yerssot
in the polish-dutch dictionary? stick out tongue

cause Bond didn't defy grafity so he was wrong... and I know things ... And I knew that eek!

Clovie
it's not a normal dictionary..it is some kind of 'needed phrases' dictionary...parents bought it when they were going to holland last year stick out tongue

you knew what? the gravity thing?

yerssot
I would have enjoyed some weed instead of the dictionary stick out tongue

I know the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth yes

Clovie
up to my knowledge all that weed is doing is making you feel totally lost. i'm lost without it already confused


we're not in the American court, you know?


in some movie i saw today (i saw only ten minutes of it)
but therewas a line..some guy came to US from UK..and he was commented...'oh... i see youy're from the land of 007' ;D

yerssot
you're parmanently high?


but it's what I know yes

I don't know that movie sad

Clovie
rather low huh

and you don't know anything else? stick out tongue


I don;t know either..but that guy who came from england was played by mr darcy..ermm..i mean colin firth

yerssot
how to eat but that's some sort of truth too yes

Mister Darcy from Married With Children?

Clovie
it doesn't seem to be a difficult activity ninja


naaaa... Mr Darcy from Bridget Jones movies stick out tongue

yerssot
you have to aim well stick out tongue

haven't seen it or fell asleep during the first I think

Clovie
right into your mouth? stick out tongue

first was i dunno.. i don't remember it at all. but the second one was nice and books were great yes

yerssot
see, it's a hard job stick out tongue

they have books?

Clovie
only when your eyes closed...


yeah. movies were based on books.

yerssot
or you're distracted yes

and bond has books too but they're totally different stick out tongue

Clovie
by? ninja

those were very similar yes but still books were BETTER!!!

yerssot
stuff confused

of Bond?

Clovie
like?


bridget jones. i haven't read bond ones sad

yerssot
dunno confused


you should try it at least once yes

Clovie
okay.

but i haven't seen any ever sad

yerssot
look harder stick out tongue

Clovie
I really didn't.
but on the package of some dvd-rack was german edition of TND blink


and on the anti-topic note
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/4306221.stm

yerssot
ah yes, I saw the poster in january... what was the title again?

yeah, I also read that a while ago, it's an interesting read to see that Bond is sometimes based on reality big grin

Clovie
in german..i don't know. i noticed only sterben and morgen..and somehow i thought it's DaD, but was corrected immediatelly laughing out loud

yeah. happy but it'sa kinda scary..i think i'd prefer thinking that real life isn't as awful bag

yerssot
by who eek!

you're living in a fairytale :no

Clovie
my bestfriend's boyfriend.

i like fairies happy

yerssot
a nice chap, he must be a bondfan

but it's not real

Clovie
dunno.. maybe. I'll ask her confused


I know sad

yerssot
isn't the boyfriend male stick out tongue

so focus onthe reality eek!

Clovie
he is, but i don't know him close. stick out tongue

and what's real?

yerssot
cause he smells? stick out tongue

the world

Clovie
no. just like that... she once said that maybe i should need to get him know better... but before she finished that sentence she decided that maybe it's not the best idea roll eyes (sarcastic)


and how do you you that it is really real?

yerssot
because you might steal him away? stick out tongue

lets not get into any barphilosophy now roll eyes (sarcastic)

Clovie
i've been just talking with her..
and 1st thing.
the guy don't consider himself a fan, but he likes watching movies.
2nd one...now she says that she didn't thought it is a bad idea... roll eyes (sarcastic)
and as for the stealing part... for sure not.


it's matrix eek!

yerssot
he must love bond eek!

it's barphilosophy, like I said stick out tongue

Clovie
I'll tell them wink

no it's not. De Cartes was working on the too!

yerssot
and if he doesn't, we'll bully him wink

still barphilosophy yes

Clovie
why would we? stick out tongue


why d'you say so?

yerssot
to annoy him, that's fun happy

cause most philosophy is purely about making yourself sound interesting

Clovie
naah...friend would kill me then..


and not looking for the answer to the ultimate question?

yerssot
it would still be fun

the ultimate question would be what it takes to get these geezers, who think making up such "intellectual" questions is making them oh so smart, to shut up!

Clovie
her killing me? stick out tongue


you don't like philosophers?

yerssot
the mudwrestling contest that would follow up on it wink

does it really show?

Clovie
i don't like being covered in mud..

not at all, I"m just making a wild guess here wink

yerssot
oil then wink

pfew, cause I wouldn't dream of getting people to understand what a bull it is big grin

Clovie
hmmm....*tries to imagine how does it feel to be covered in oil*


it depends on the teacher i believe.

yerssot
I take that as a yes

it doesn't matter about the teacher but about the contence that's shit

Clovie
I didn't say yes ninja


but if the teacher makes it interesting it's nice.

yerssot
I interpretate it as that

but still bull yes

Clovie
i seee....

I liked philosophy at high school...

yerssot
you may of course

bleurgh, there was a bond reference somewhere today but I forgot it

Clovie
see?


how could you sad

yerssot
by not paying attention yes

yerssot
"the James Bond of the sky" -> line in Catch me if you can

Clovie
you should pay more attention mister nono


eek! I loved Catch me if you can!!. it's great. it's the only dicaprio movie i liked blink

yerssot
haven't seen it yet

Clovie
SEE IT!!!!

yerssot
I will but if you're going to yell, I'll just curl up in fetal position and cry

Clovie
i'm sorry sunshine kisses


(you wanna be like that crimson chin person?)

yerssot
I have no idea what you mean....

but the James Bond reference just popped up eek! they showed a part of Goldfinger yes

Clovie
there was that episode of FOP erm nvm.


in Catch me if you can? I don't remember... last time i've seen it 2 or something years ago.

yerssot
FOP? blink

it's when he's interviewing the guy from Pan Am and the guy talks about the column in the paper about the Sky-something-man, the James Bond of the sky yes

Clovie
fairly odd parents erm


I remember eek!
you've seen it? happy

yerssot
yup... he drives around in a DB5 afterwards

Clovie
what's DB5? confused

yerssot
the car he uses... the most famous one of them all?

Clovie
I was not paying attention to cars?

yerssot
it's quite hard to miss though.... Goldfinger?

Clovie
I remember Fort Knox.

yerssot
and when he was tracking Goldfinger?

Clovie
ermm...earlier?

yerssot
you mean as to where in the movie it is?

Clovie
it wasn't a question?

yerssot
I din't understand it messed

Clovie
cry

yerssot
I still don't follow blink

Clovie
I was answering to this question *points 'when'*
Originally posted by yerssot
and when he was tracking Goldfinger?

yerssot
but it was about if you now remembered the car

Clovie
oh..I don't.
i remember helicopter over fort knox

yerssot
still not the car stick out tongue

Clovie
it's all i remember

yerssot
it's grey? stick out tongue

Clovie
helicopter?

yerssot
the car... the Aston Martin DB5

Clovie
not cabrio?"

yerssot
not by a long shot

Clovie
I may be remembering it confused

yerssot
so when is the remembering complete? stick out tongue

Clovie
when it reaches 100% wink

yerssot
what's the estimate?

Clovie
undefinied amount of time. connection is unstable.

yerssot
I don't like those odds

Clovie
I'm sorry weep

yerssot
so lets get to the rescue eek!

Clovie
where? eek!

yerssot
to help bond out

Clovie
but where? eek!

yerssot
england eek!

Clovie
I've never been to England and not gonna go there schmoll

yerssot
but England needs him!

Clovie
so he'll go to England alone stick out tongue

yerssot
but he needs us cry

Clovie
what for? confused

yerssot
to become famous eek!

Clovie
he's famous already, you know? confused

yerssot
we aren't

Clovie
and we want to be?

yerssot
I wanna be, I wanna be rich and famous happy

Clovie
but then there would be a lot of pics of you EVERYWHERE...and you didn't even want to have one on the main page of kmc... ninja

yerssot
I'll wear a mask

Clovie
liek zorro?

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