Bond's impact on reality.
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Clovie
Do you notice in how many situations there are some connections to Bond?
example:
the beginning of taxi 3.
yerssot
but a movie isn't reality so how can you mention taxi 3?
but anyway, for movies: XXX, Jason Bourne, ... everything that has a spy in it is based on Bond or takes elements from it.
And then of course you have what Bond means to people... it liberated the movie with in example very sexual scenes (taking off stockings and honey's appearance) were very raunchy at that time...
Or what about the elements of reality it had? The cold war? or more recently the power of hte media (TND) or the danger of science (DaD)
So in short, Bond has had quite an impact on the movie experience... But I fear that if it won't renew, it will lose that impact
Clovie
good point. but i meant like everything..so put it inot word reality..i gues it was not the best idea
i think it will never loose it. it's classic
there was an advert of tv.
about closing car in j. bond style.
yerssot
well, the old movies are classics, yes but I don't think the after GE movies have gotten that status yet.
I mostly mean that the bondmovies need to re-invent movies or talk about subjects that are yet to be talked about in movies in a mor eclear way so that later on we will be able again to say that they were a revolution in the movieprocess
Clovie
considering the fact that from the movies after GE i remember only songs and remote controll for a car...they didn't get big status yet.
that will be hard

everything seems to be filmed already

yerssot
but if they got it more clearly out... DaD was about the danger of technology which is a very important discussion point but I think that failed big time
Clovie
i had no idea. for me it was about fencing and invisible car. :cofnused:
yerssot
see, it totally missed the point
Clovie
there was too much fx and halle
yerssot
and unbelievable things... but the intention was there, seriously
Clovie
but it was totally unnoticable
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there are male-parfums called Bond.

yerssot
granted, you had to look harder but why just give it that easily away?
cause bond means smelly in polish?

Clovie
because it would be cleareer then?
there is no such a word in polish

yerssot
no, cause if it's that clear people will say it's too tutoring and they don't want that... seriously, they want layers without being an onion or an ogre
bondy?

Clovie
but I like layers bag and i hate onion.
i don't recall existence of this word as well
In that book I was reading yesterday, Bond was mentioned at least 5 times

yerssot
so perhaps you're an ogre

But it's just that if the makers tell it that easy they get the comment of being too educational but if they don't do it that easy, a lot will miss the point...
Bondov then
which book was that? A Fleming novel?
Clovie
do i look like one? weep
so what should they do?
at least sounds better (but there is no 'v' in polish alphabet

)
nope, Helen Fielding's one
yerssot
lets hope not... or you want to be big and green?
they have to find the middle between the two but it aint easy as you can guess
Bondof?

why do you have to have such a nasty language?
what's it aboot?
Clovie
no. i don't want to be big

but i wanted to have green hair some time ago

they should be smart!
Bondow, i think

and it's not nasty. look at french, they're writing thrice as many letters as they're reading
one jurnalist who becomes a spy and fights with terrorist and falls in love(mutuali) in one handsome blonde guy

Clovie
ermm..FIona had...either red or blonde..i don't remember..
good point
considering it got censored.. i should feel insluted now?
now. she had all the gadgets and she wanted to be bond-like

and the guy is just handsome...and a spy and..so one

yerssot
red in ogre blondish in real, but nothing green

there is a new movie out Trainspotter 2 I believe that reminds me of Bond, in the trailer for instance there's a scene that looks like TND with the car to me
no, I censored it myself, the saying "mais " has the meaning of "damnit"
she wanted girls?

so he could be XXX too

Clovie
skin was green

AAA

I saw a beginning of that one!!! but the version was crap. and it was in english and they were speaking too unclearly
merde? and what did it mean?
no. she wanted to be a real spy!
XXX? Vin Diesel?

yerssot
not the hair like you wanted

so you didn't like it?
yeah but my idea was stronger than that
they don't always do such jobs though

yeah
Clovie
i know

I did. I'm waiting for better quality. bag
so what did you mean?
but..?
but he wasn't blonde

yerssot
how about you go actually see it instead of downloading it
what I said
she's female

Diesel is bald

Clovie
depends...
but it was in french
so what?
i know. bald doesn't equal blonde to me.
yerssot
depends on what Dexx?
yeah
that's baaaad

I was mostly refering to the impact of bond like on movies of XXX
Clovie
depends on: it's often possible to get a nice dvd-quality before it's even in the cinemas here. record was when some movie was in the cinema over a year later then i saw it. i think you kow what i mean
I don't know/understand french.
why?
oh..yeah. bag
it's funny... coz recently i'm finding bond similarities in almost every movie i see and every book i reaad

yerssot
you should just buy what you like on dvd, legal dvds mind you, and all will be well
but you tried it
females are bad
like which other movies and books?
Clovie
but legal dvds are available usually about a year after a movie is in th cinemas...

(it's often on the foreign tv sooner than that

)
tried what? french?
me's not bad cry
hmm..that Clancy's one. it was literally mentioned..that something was looking exactly as in thunderball (or goldfinger..don't remember by now)
yerssot
yeah but I want them NOW

(but you have to buy it on dvd!)
yeah
most of them then
Rainbow Six?
Clovie
go to england

(is this an order?)
i'm just pretending i know languages.. 'omdat de soep was te zout.'
my friends are nice too

too nice bag
nhaah..some other one..with Rayn..
yerssot
then I don't have subtitles

(yes?)
"omdat de soep te zout was", then fire the cook
or they pretend
Saving Private Ryan?
Clovie
and you don't understand in english? bag (and you expect me to follow it?)
thanks for correction

naah..it's just some kind of inside joke..there was one finnish song..it was called..in translation never again..or something, it was about spliting.and some one my friends gave it that comment
don't think so.
naah..
hmm... it was some continuation od the hunt of the red october. but i don't remember which book exactly bag
yerssot
I do but I want everything on my dvd
I have no idea what you mean but ok
I have no idea

Clovie
extra features..not-used scenes and so on?
there was a song. and it was commented with 'bo zupa była za słona" (it is that sentence in polish) and i saw something part of it in dutch
it was either without remorse or kardinal of kremlin..of something else...i have no idea about english titles. and i don't even remember which i've read bag
yerssot
yeah, cause like said, I like to see how FX came to be and such
I don't see anything
so what's the polish title?
yerssot
dutch in it
I don't think at all, I know... like Corran being wrong

Clovie
i saw that line in dutch in some conversations book
what has corran to do with it?

yerssot
in the polish-dutch dictionary?
cause Bond didn't defy grafity so he was wrong... and I know things ... And I knew that

Clovie
it's not a normal dictionary..it is some kind of 'needed phrases' dictionary...parents bought it when they were going to holland last year
you knew what? the gravity thing?
yerssot
I would have enjoyed some weed instead of the dictionary
I know the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth

Clovie
up to my knowledge all that weed is doing is making you feel totally lost. i'm lost without it already
we're not in the American court, you know?
in some movie i saw today (i saw only ten minutes of it)
but therewas a line..some guy came to US from UK..and he was commented...'oh... i see youy're from the land of 007' ;D
yerssot
you're parmanently high?
but it's what I know
I don't know that movie

Clovie
rather low
and you don't know anything else?
I don;t know either..but that guy who came from england was played by mr darcy..ermm..i mean colin firth
yerssot
how to eat but that's some sort of truth too
Mister Darcy from Married With Children?
Clovie
it doesn't seem to be a difficult activity
naaaa... Mr Darcy from Bridget Jones movies

yerssot
you have to aim well
haven't seen it or fell asleep during the first I think
Clovie
right into your mouth?
first was i dunno.. i don't remember it at all. but the second one was nice and books were great

yerssot
see, it's a hard job
they have books?
Clovie
only when your eyes closed...
yeah. movies were based on books.
yerssot
or you're distracted
and bond has books too but they're totally different

Clovie
by?
those were very similar

but still books were BETTER!!!
yerssot
stuff
of Bond?
Clovie
like?
bridget jones. i haven't read bond ones

yerssot
dunno
you should try it at least once

Clovie
okay.
but i haven't seen any ever

yerssot
look harder

Clovie
I really didn't.
but on the package of some dvd-rack was german edition of TND
and on the anti-topic note
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/4306221.stm
yerssot
ah yes, I saw the poster in january... what was the title again?
yeah, I also read that a while ago, it's an interesting read to see that Bond is sometimes based on reality

Clovie
in german..i don't know. i noticed only sterben and morgen..and somehow i thought it's DaD, but was corrected immediatelly
yeah.

but it'sa kinda scary..i think i'd prefer thinking that real life isn't as awful bag
yerssot
by who
you're living in a fairytale :no
Clovie
my bestfriend's boyfriend.
i like fairies

yerssot
a nice chap, he must be a bondfan
but it's not real
Clovie
dunno.. maybe. I'll ask her
I know

yerssot
isn't the boyfriend male
so focus onthe reality

Clovie
he is, but i don't know him close.
and what's real?
yerssot
cause he smells?
the world
Clovie
no. just like that... she once said that maybe i should need to get him know better... but before she finished that sentence she decided that maybe it's not the best idea
and how do you you that it is really real?
yerssot
because you might steal him away?
lets not get into any barphilosophy now

Clovie
i've been just talking with her..
and 1st thing.
the guy don't consider himself a fan, but he likes watching movies.
2nd one...now she says that she didn't thought it is a bad idea...

and as for the stealing part... for sure not.
it's matrix

yerssot
he must love bond
it's barphilosophy, like I said

Clovie
I'll tell them
no it's not. De Cartes was working on the too!
yerssot
and if he doesn't, we'll bully him
still barphilosophy

Clovie
why would we?
why d'you say so?
yerssot
to annoy him, that's fun
cause most philosophy is purely about making yourself sound interesting
Clovie
naah...friend would kill me then..
and not looking for the answer to the ultimate question?
yerssot
it would still be fun
the ultimate question would be what it takes to get these geezers, who think making up such "intellectual" questions is making them oh so smart, to shut up!
Clovie
her killing me?
you don't like philosophers?
yerssot
the mudwrestling contest that would follow up on it
does it really show?
Clovie
i don't like being covered in mud..
not at all, I"m just making a wild guess here

yerssot
oil then
pfew, cause I wouldn't dream of getting people to understand what a bull it is

Clovie
hmmm....*tries to imagine how does it feel to be covered in oil*
it depends on the teacher i believe.
yerssot
I take that as a yes
it doesn't matter about the teacher but about the contence that's shit
Clovie
I didn't say yes
but if the teacher makes it interesting it's nice.
yerssot
I interpretate it as that
but still bull

Clovie
i seee....
I liked philosophy at high school...
yerssot
you may of course
bleurgh, there was a bond reference somewhere today but I forgot it
Clovie
see?
how could you

yerssot
by not paying attention

yerssot
"the James Bond of the sky" -> line in Catch me if you can
Clovie
you should pay more attention mister nono

I loved Catch me if you can!!. it's great. it's the only dicaprio movie i liked

yerssot
haven't seen it yet
yerssot
I will but if you're going to yell, I'll just curl up in fetal position and cry
Clovie
i'm sorry sunshine kisses
(you wanna be like that crimson chin person?)
yerssot
I have no idea what you mean....
but the James Bond reference just popped up

they showed a part of Goldfinger

Clovie
there was that episode of FOP

nvm.
in Catch me if you can? I don't remember... last time i've seen it 2 or something years ago.
yerssot
FOP?
it's when he's interviewing the guy from Pan Am and the guy talks about the column in the paper about the Sky-something-man, the James Bond of the sky

Clovie
fairly odd parents
I remember

you've seen it?

yerssot
yup... he drives around in a DB5 afterwards
Clovie
what's DB5?

yerssot
the car he uses... the most famous one of them all?
Clovie
I was not paying attention to cars?
yerssot
it's quite hard to miss though.... Goldfinger?
Clovie
I remember Fort Knox.
yerssot
and when he was tracking Goldfinger?
yerssot
you mean as to where in the movie it is?
Clovie
it wasn't a question?
yerssot
I din't understand it

yerssot
I still don't follow

Clovie
I was answering to this question *points 'when'*
Originally posted by yerssot
and when he was tracking Goldfinger?
yerssot
but it was about if you now remembered the car
Clovie
oh..I don't.
i remember helicopter over fort knox
yerssot
still not the car

Clovie
it's all i remember
yerssot
it's grey?

yerssot
the car... the Aston Martin DB5
yerssot
not by a long shot
Clovie
I may be remembering it

yerssot
so when is the remembering complete?

Clovie
when it reaches 100%

yerssot
what's the estimate?
Clovie
undefinied amount of time. connection is unstable.
yerssot
I don't like those odds
yerssot
so lets get to the rescue

Clovie
where?

Clovie
but where?

yerssot
england

Clovie
I've never been to England and not gonna go there schmoll
yerssot
but England needs him!
Clovie
so he'll go to England alone

yerssot
but he needs us cry
Clovie
what for?

yerssot
to become famous

Clovie
he's famous already, you know?

yerssot
I wanna be, I wanna be rich and famous

Clovie
but then there would be a lot of pics of you EVERYWHERE...and you didn't even want to have one on the main page of kmc...

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