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When I think of all the great camp comics and performers in music etc, I find most of them are gay or bisexual - Eddie Izzard, Boy George etc. I wonder were people like Kenneth Williams and Frankie Howard straight or gay?

Kenneth Williams was straight I believe.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Kenneth Williams was straight I believe.

-AC

really? that suprises me

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Kenneth Williams was straight I believe.

-AC


As is Eddie Izzard.

kenneth williams was gay im sure.

Kenneth Williams was gay. Eddie Izzard is straight.

i bet kenneth williams and charles hawtrey got up to naughtys on the sets of pinewood studios

Originally posted by amity75
Kenneth Williams was gay. Eddie Izzard is straight.


So, we've all reached the conclusion that straight guys "can be camp". Problem solved.

Originally posted by Deano
kenneth williams was gay im sure.


Who is Kenneth Williams?

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
So, we've all reached the conclusion that straight guys "can be camp". Problem solved.




Who is Kenneth Williams?

very funny british actor and comedian who was best remembered for starring in the famous carry on films. i love those films!!!!!!!!!

http://www.carryonline.com/carry/cofilms.html

http://www.parallel-worlds.co.uk/old%20web%20site/Web_Images/Photos/Film/16302_KenWilliams.jpg

I am becoming sick and tired with the media's politically correct obsession with gay sex. It's getting so that I can't turn on the Fantasy Channel without seeing two naked homosexual women indulging in these sordid practices. I'm thinking of cancelling my subscription.

The movies (and him) being funny is debateable but yes, those are where he is most famous.

-AC

well to be honest i didnt find him funny in his stand up shows. only in the carry on films i found him funny

Originally posted by amity75
I am becoming sick and tired with the media's politically correct obsession with gay sex. It's getting so that I can't turn on the Fantasy Channel without seeing two naked homosexual women indulging in these sordid practices. I'm thinking of cancelling my subscription.

LOL, I thought you straight guys enjoyed lesbians.

I enjoy girl on girl.

Couldn't give a f*ck if it's lesbians, bisexuals or horribly teasy straight girls. They don't have to be lesbian.

Whilst I can only speak for me, I think any man complaining about girl on girl is lying. But that's me, Amity may not be lying. I personally don't see women, doing each other, and think "Man...I can't STAND this." I think "Yes, yes."

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I enjoy girl on girl.

Couldn't give a f*ck if it's lesbians, bisexuals or horribly teasy straight girls. They don't have to be lesbian.

-AC

LOL, you know AC, if I said it was 12:00, I bet you would tell me it was 12:01.

It would be, given the time of a response. Say it takes me...hmm, 50 seconds to reply. Give or take. If I start at 12...could very well be 12:01 by the time I reply .

I'm kidding. Wasn't correcting you, sorry. Just saying. A lot of people here seem to think it's attraction to homosexuality, it's not attraction to the preference, just what comes of the preference.

-AC

Originally posted by Alan Partauri
Kenneth Williams was straight I believe.

-AP

HAHAHAHAHA.

The gayest human in history- 'I believe he was straight'. Kenneth Williams was quite gay too.

Just makes me think. Makes me think a lot.

Originally posted by amity75
I am becoming sick and tired with the media's politically correct obsession with gay sex. It's getting so that I can't turn on the Fantasy Channel without seeing two naked homosexual women indulging in these sordid practices. I'm thinking of cancelling my subscription.

I'm thinking this is ironic...isn't it?

I actually knew you couldn't keep away from this thread, actually sensed.

And I'm gonna pretend you didn't change my name to Alan Partauri.

-AC

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
HAHAHAHAHA.

The gayest human in history- 'I believe he was straight'. Kenneth Williams was quite gay too.

Just makes me think. Makes me think a lot.



I'm thinking this is ironic...isn't it?

What is camp?

Originally posted by Bardock42
What is camp?

The dictionary(.com) describes it as 'To act in a deliberately artificial, vulgar, or banal way'.

I don't really think that's accurate though. It's a kind of affected enthusiasm, with elements of effeminacy. It does often involve vulgarity or artificiality, but 'banal' seems inappropriate, at least in the meaning this thread is using.

Maybe they mean 'anal'.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Maybe they mean 'anal'.

Ha, that's cute.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Ha, that's cute.

Can be, can be.

Originally posted by Bardock42
What is camp?

something different in Poland j/k

Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
something different in Poland j/k

Haha, that was hilarious......and coming fro you...I wouldn't have expected that....

Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
something different in Poland j/k


Why are you making a joke about the death of so many people?

The fact that so many Gypsies died in the holocaust, doesn't give you the right to make jokes about such a terrible tragedy!

How dare you!


I'm a gypsy, so I don't appreciate your jokes!

I wonder, should I forgive the people of Poland for allowing these camps to be established in their country?!


Now, I'm crying! Boo Hoo Hoo

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Why are you making a joke about the death of so many people?

The fact that so many Gypsies died in the holocaust, doesn't give you the right to make jokes about such a terrible tragedy!

How dare you!


I'm a gypsy, so I don't appreciate your jokes!

I wonder, should I forgive the people of Poland for allowing these camps to be established in their country?!


Now, I'm crying! Boo Hoo Hoo

no it was an ironic reply - as usual you miss the point

I didn't miss your point, I ignored it...just like you do.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
I didn't miss your point, I ignored it...just like you do.

I see

sure you do then why do you keep making threads about gay people or gay things

What nationality is a gypsy????

thank you for changing the subject

Originally posted by debbiejo
What nationality is a gypsy????

Its not a nationality its an ethnic subgroup, actually it originally came from Europe about a thousand years ago, in the uk it mixed a lot with irish tinkers another travelling subgroup.

that sounds right

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Why are you making a joke about the death of so many people?

The fact that so many Gypsies died in the holocaust, doesn't give you the right to make jokes about such a terrible tragedy!

How dare you!


I'm a gypsy, so I don't appreciate your jokes!

I wonder, should I forgive the people of Poland for allowing these camps to be established in their country?!


Now, I'm crying! Boo Hoo Hoo

too funny....damn people you crack me up......

So gypsies were persecuted cause they were a little different from the main stream....hmmmmmmm....and now turns around and does a little persecuting themselves???

Originally posted by debbiejo
So gypsies were persecuted cause they were a little different from the main stream....hmmmmmmm....and now turns around and does a little persecuting themselves???

I'm sorry none of my questions involve persecution, biology and socialisation yes, persecution certainly not. So some things may not be discussed or inferred is that what your saying - I sort of agree.

Originally posted by debbiejo
So gypsies were persecuted cause they were a little different from the main stream....hmmmmmmm....and now turns around and does a little persecuting themselves???


So you're saying that intentionally starting numerous threads that feed off the unfounded hate that so many people fell towards homosexuals is a form of persecution?

Let's see. We have:
"Are homosexuals biologically redundant?"
"Gays aren't an ethnic minority (and their marginalisation by society pales in comparison.)"
"How many derogatory terms for gay men can you think of?"

It's like watching a "fair and balanced" report on FOX news.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
So you're saying that intentionally starting numerous threads that feed off the unfounded hate that so many people fell towards homosexuals is a form of persecution?

Seems so...

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Let's see. We have:
"Are homosexuals biologically redundant?"
"Gays aren't an ethnic minority (and their marginalisation by society pales in comparison.)"
"How many derogatory terms for gay men can you think of?"

It's like watching a "fair and balanced" report on FOX news.

these are your interpretations - I have no threads with these titles

I have nothing against anyone sexuality I am just posting various topics for discussion.

Those are the de-euphemised titles.
Various (inflammatory) topics that have absolutely nothing to do with you having a disagreement with any particular homosexual member of KMC I'm certain...

Originally posted by xmarksthespot

Various topics that have absolutely nothing to do with you having a disagreement with any particular homosexual member of KMC I'm certain.

Then you're right, I have no problem with anyone, I always try to mend bridges

Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
Then you're right, I have no problem with anyone, I always try to mend bridges

Yiu really can not sense sarcasm, eh?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yiu really can not sense sarcasm, eh?

never

Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
Then you're right, I have no problem with anyone, I always try to mend bridges

And you mend bridges by starting threads that insult an entire portion of the population because you have issues with me?


What am I supposed to do to mend a non-existant relationship? Write you a poem and send you a box of e-chocolates?

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
And you mend bridges by starting threads that insult an entire portion of the population because you have issues with me?


What am I supposed to do to mend a non-existant relationship? Write you a poem and send you a box of e-chocolates?

It would be a start - I certainly meant no insult to anyone, i am sorry you percieved I did

Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
It would be a start - I certainly meant no insult to anyone, i am sorry you percieved I did


Well, you can wish in one hand and shit in the other, and see which one fills up first.

What if you write the wishes on huge pieces of paper.

A? What then? What then?

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
What if you write the wishes on huge pieces of paper.

A? What then? What then?

then you sent it to the fat man and we all can have a merry christmas....

good plan

"Can straight guys be camp?"



*Wheels in Tex on a sack truck*


Ta-daaaa!

What does this "camp" mean?

camp - An affectation or appreciation of manners and tastes commonly thought to be artificial, vulgar, or banal.

Can anyone explain to me why I never heard this used in this way before? Everyone here seems to understand it right away.

Then I am very CAMP but very straight so camp it would seem is a dated phrase

Michael Barrymore is camp - it later turned out he is gay

http://myweb.lsbu.ac.uk/~stafflag/michaelbarrymore.html

its a bit like the term sissy i suppose

Originally posted by amity75
I am becoming sick and tired with the media's politically correct obsession with gay sex. It's getting so that I can't turn on the Fantasy Channel without seeing two naked homosexual women indulging in these sordid practices. I'm thinking of cancelling my subscription.
Uh...you go, girl.

Originally posted by MC Mike
camp - An affectation or appreciation of manners and tastes commonly thought to be artificial, vulgar, or banal.

Can anyone explain to me why I never heard this used in this way before? Everyone here seems to understand it right away.

I imagine they don't want to refer to homosexuality or effeminacy.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
I imagine they don't want to refer to homosexuality or effeminacy.

probably - taboos due to political correctness and fear of saying the wrong thing

Originally posted by MC Mike
camp - An affectation or appreciation of manners and tastes commonly thought to be artificial, vulgar, or banal.

Can anyone explain to me why I never heard this used in this way before? Everyone here seems to understand it right away.

You likely refer to the use of the word in regards to hokie humor and silliness....like the Batman series from the '60s. In this sense, it's meaning has been corrupt. Much like gay, means happy...but now also means homosexual. But, it was apparent to me that, by the use of the term in teh original post...that it was being used in it's original meaning.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
I imagine they don't want to refer to homosexuality or effeminacy.

Remember that not all homosexuals are effiminate. Many are, yes. But, not all.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Remember that all homosexuals are not effiminate. Many are, yes. But, not all.

Yeah...that being the point of my post. Wake up!

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Remember that all homosexuals are not effiminate. Many are, yes. But, not all.

this is true perhaps its due to the way the mosaic gene complex works, sometimes gayness is not fullblown in the phenotype?

Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
this is true perhaps its due to the way the mosaic gene complex works, sometimes gayness is not fullblown in the phenotype?

'Gayness' can't be 'fullblown in the phenotype', because it refers to an attraction to the same sex.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
'Gayness' can't be 'fullblown in the phenotype', because it refers to an attraction to the same sex.

I see so you feel that there is no gay gene, or mosaic complex and "gayness" is purely a product of the environment - interesting do you have evidence?

Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
I see so you feel that there is no gay gene, or mosaic complex and "gayness" is purely a product of the environment - interesting do you have evidence?

Yes, hang on. I did a study on it once.

I wasn't making that point at all- merely that it would be hard for 'gayness' to have a phenotypical manifestation that would reveal that person's sexuality.

I think the only answer to this broad quesiton can be 'both'. There are obviously instances of both sources.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I enjoy girl on girl.

Couldn't give a f*ck if it's lesbians, bisexuals or horribly teasy straight girls. They don't have to be lesbian.

Whilst I can only speak for me, I think any man complaining about girl on girl is lying. But that's me, Amity may not be lying. I personally don't see women, doing each other, and think "Man...I can't STAND this." I think "Yes, yes."

-AC hysterical