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Lobo, Martian Manhunter, Superman, and GL (Hal) vs. Thor, SS, Juggernaut and the Incredible Hulk.

Close fight. Very close.

Superman knocks off Juggy's helmet, Jonn Mindrapes him. Juggy's out of the game. Hulk better be really pissed. And Savage. Even then, he won't be too impactful.

Kryptonite Radiation would be enough to do away with the Man of Steel, and Manhunter isn't hanging in with these guys too long. This could very quickly become Lobo and Hal vs. Silver Surfer and Thor. Which could quickly become Silver Surfer vs. Hal Jordan.

and you know surfer is gonna punk hal

I'm going with Marvel in this one

this fight is gonna be rough. the only way i can see DC winning this is by keeping surfer distracted.

juggs and hulk are the non flyers. hal has to keep pitching them in orbit so that surfer will go after them. in the meanwhile jonn is confusing surfer (im not sure if jonn could mindrape him)
lobo and supes will pummel thor as hal attacks surfer as he's trying to retrieve his comrades whilst jonn works him over mentally.

lobo and supes wear down thor who is defeated after some planet wrecking blows are shared between the 3 of them.

surfer will be at the disadvantage of trying to save his teammates whilst being mentally and physically attacked. by now supes has entered orbit with lobo. and they knock juggs and hulk into the sun. if surfer tries to go after them, he will be at a further disadvantage. if he stays and fights its 4 on 1. and once jonn works over his mind teh rest can work over his body.

on the other hand, surfer could induce immediate kryptonite poisoning (as long as he knows what kryptonite is) or he can leech the sunlight from supermans cells. if GL stays in teh air, he can inhibit most of what surfer is doing, but supes will be weaked and fall prey to thor. thor and surfer can work over GL as lobo mixes it up with hulk and juggs. jonn will try his best to keep hulk ocupied mentally, but it prolly will fail once hes enraged.

in the end it will be jonnv the 4 of them and jonn will lose

Very well done, Solidus.

u got to remember the surfer is the fastest of them all he can speedblitz supes with radiation and take him out then go after mm who wouldnt last long all while lobo is busy with hulk and juggernaut and thor handles hal
after all that lobo might still be up surfer would of taken mm out hulk would be out from the fight with lobo and hal would be knocked out by thor after a good fight so it would be 3 on 1 and lobo gets jumped

Perhaps the Marvel team is just a tad too strong for DC?

Nice reply by the way, Silver Spider.

The way I see it, Lobo and Hulk are non-factors as they cannot fly and as stated could be thrown into orbit. Juggernaut is different (i might be mistaken here) as he can continue in motion even in air. This isn't a big advantage but keeps him from being completly useless. MM also isn't a big help as Juggernaut's helmet protects him, Thor has had at least centuries to train his body and mind against attacks (if batman can do it so can thor!), and surfer can use energy fields to protect himself (ala magneto). MM is a step lower in strength and fire can easly take him out. This really leaves SS and Thor vs Hal and Superman. While a long fight I give it to SS and Thor. They have majic and better energy manupliation.

The two keys here are Superman's vunerability to Silver Surfer's powers, and Juggernaut's the only one for-sure mindshielded against Martian Manhunter. So Juggy takes him, J'onn is forced to play intangible for awhile, Hulk only needs to occupy Lobo for long enough for the others to do their job. Surfer sucks the sunlight from Superman, it's over for him unless GL intercepts and fights him first, beacause Thor and Superman can go either way, and for a long time. Right matchups have Marvel side winning; longer odds for DC.

Marvel wins. For all the reasons that everyone has previously stated.

DC will win if MM can manage to keep SS occupied thus giving superman space to take on Hulk or Juggs.

That's a big "if", Joesha. But yes, that could happen, not likely...but could.

Marvel takes this reasons? no point already been stated above

GL throws them into the entropy at the end of time...
Surfer escapes this tactic, but still has a 4 on 1 bout and with a good fight where he pushes his limit goes down. During the fight Lobo gains immunity to the power cosmic and becomes the next best thing to undefeatable.

Originally posted by Solidus Snake
this fight is gonna be rough. the only way i can see DC winning this is by keeping surfer distracted.

juggs and hulk are the non flyers. hal has to keep pitching them in orbit so that surfer will go after them. in the meanwhile jonn is confusing surfer (im not sure if jonn could mindrape him)
lobo and supes will pummel thor as hal attacks surfer as he's trying to retrieve his comrades whilst jonn works him over mentally.

lobo and supes wear down thor who is defeated after some planet wrecking blows are shared between the 3 of them.

surfer will be at the disadvantage of trying to save his teammates whilst being mentally and physically attacked. by now supes has entered orbit with lobo. and they knock juggs and hulk into the sun. if surfer tries to go after them, he will be at a further disadvantage. if he stays and fights its 4 on 1. and once jonn works over his mind teh rest can work over his body.

on the other hand, surfer could induce immediate kryptonite poisoning (as long as he knows what kryptonite is) or he can leech the sunlight from supermans cells. if GL stays in teh air, he can inhibit most of what surfer is doing, but supes will be weaked and fall prey to thor. thor and surfer can work over GL as lobo mixes it up with hulk and juggs. jonn will try his best to keep hulk ocupied mentally, but it prolly will fail once hes enraged.

in the end it will be jonnv the 4 of them and jonn will lose

lol

Good explaination.

Originally posted by Juntai
GL throws them into the entropy at the end of time...
Surfer escapes this tactic, but still has a 4 on 1 bout and with a good fight where he pushes his limit goes down. During the fight Lobo gains immunity to the power cosmic and becomes the next best thing to undefeatable.

Is it really that easy?

Thor would be able to escape as well.

Thor should probably throw Lobo into another dimension, to save the team some trouble.

Marvel

Current Thor wins this for Marvel, without that the DC team beats them badly.

Can we PLEASE get a Superman fight without "THROWN INTO THE SUN" being spoken? According to KMC'ers, space would be flooded by villains on their way through orbit.

Marvel

Marvel win 7/10

DC have a chance, but the odds are against them.

If we use current Thor and Surfer, 10/10 to Marvel.

Originally posted by guy222
Marvel

nice guy, just nice...

Originally posted by BobbyD
Lobo, Martian Manhunter, Superman, and GL (Hal) vs. Thor, SS, Juggernaut and the Incredible Hulk.

dc imo... hal takes juggs and hulk on his own imo...

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
lol

Good explaination.

I second this. Great fight with key variables.

Originally posted by Solidus Snake
this fight is gonna be rough. the only way i can see DC winning this is by keeping surfer distracted.

juggs and hulk are the non flyers. hal has to keep pitching them in orbit so that surfer will go after them. in the meanwhile jonn is confusing surfer (im not sure if jonn could mindrape him)
lobo and supes will pummel thor as hal attacks surfer as he's trying to retrieve his comrades whilst jonn works him over mentally.

lobo and supes wear down thor who is defeated after some planet wrecking blows are shared between the 3 of them.

surfer will be at the disadvantage of trying to save his teammates whilst being mentally and physically attacked. by now supes has entered orbit with lobo. and they knock juggs and hulk into the sun. if surfer tries to go after them, he will be at a further disadvantage. if he stays and fights its 4 on 1. and once jonn works over his mind teh rest can work over his body.

on the other hand, surfer could induce immediate kryptonite poisoning (as long as he knows what kryptonite is) or he can leech the sunlight from supermans cells. if GL stays in teh air, he can inhibit most of what surfer is doing, but supes will be weaked and fall prey to thor. thor and surfer can work over GL as lobo mixes it up with hulk and juggs. jonn will try his best to keep hulk ocupied mentally, but it prolly will fail once hes enraged.

in the end it will be jonnv the 4 of them and jonn will lose

duh it didn't post what solidus said anyway here ya go

bumprav

Hal would be able to remove any type of poisoning Supes may have. Especially K-nite.

EDIT: Sorry. That was more of a statement.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Wouldnt Hal be able to remove any type of poisoning Supes may have? Especially K-nite? Can he remove Sodam's lead poisoning?

Originally posted by Mindset
Can he remove Sodam's lead poisoning?

I wouldnt doubt it.

Hmm, seems like someone should have told Sodom that.

I wonder why Supes hasn't asked him to save Mon El.

Originally posted by Mindset
Hmm, seems like someone should have told Sodom that.

Yat still has it? I didnt know that.

That's why he still has to wear a ring.

Unless they took away his poisoning and never mentioned it.

team 2 wins

Originally posted by Mindset
That's why he still has to wear a ring.

Unless they took away his poisoning and never mentioned it.

Yea it doesnt make much sense to me. The ring can locate and remove such things. It seems like daxamites have more of a weakness to lead than a kryptonian would to k-nite.

Marvel.

SS pushes the advantage deep into Marvel territory.

Team 2 wins.

Current SS w/ the upgrades is the X factor for Marvel team.
Marvel 6/10

SS flies MM and Hal into a neutron star at 5x the speed of light.

Still Marvel

If the Juggernaut and Hulk were so easy to just grap and throw any where it would of happened before and if the Juggernaut has his force field up and I dont see why he wouldnt then none of the DC characters you named are touching him period.

But anyway Team Marvel would far too much for team DC.

Team marvel wins this mainly do to SS.

...bringing an "oldie" back. Discuss people....

SS drains Supes and Hal drains Banner. Meanwhile Juggs smashes Lobo and Thor hammers MM.
SS and Thor finish off Hal.

Marvel wins.

Isn't Current Juggy pretty much a BFR Dream at the moment?