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1)Thing

2)She Hulk

3)Gladiator

4)Morg (enhanced)

5)Thanos

6)Darkseid(current)

7)Tyrant (full power)

not a very good gauntlet is it

dude this is pre crisis supes lets give hima challenge

Originally posted by superman302
dude this is pre crisis supes lets give hima challenge


I did, I doubt he gets past Morg.

Thing can take it but only if Superman can't use his heat vision, super speed, super breath, is restricted to using one hand, can't win via ring out, gives Ben two free shots to start off the fight and has 3 hours of prep time with Reed.

and thing still gets killed

Originally posted by Darth_Erebus
I did, I doubt he gets past Morg.
dude precrisis supes couldnt be beat i mean he literally sneezed to hard before and took out a galaxy

Originally posted by superman302
dude precrisis supes couldnt be beat i mean he literally sneezed to hard before and took out a galaxy


That's so lame. He couldn't "sneeze" any of these opponents out of existance. I admit he'd beat Thing easily. She Hulk would be a little tougher but he'd still win. Gladiator is a whole different matter, it'd be a real tough fight. Morg, with enhanced power cosmic once defeated (or nearly so) all the other Heralds, I think he could take pre crisis Supes. Thanos and Darkseid are even higher on the foodchain. And as for a fully powered Tyrant, he's nearly the equal of Galactus. He could take Pre Crisis Superman, Superman, Superman prime, and any other version of Superman, all combined, and still wonder what that funny blue costume was all about.

People need to stop mentioning that sneeze. It was a magic dust or something that caused that to happen.

I think he would struggle with every one of these guys but pull a victory off in the end.

Isn't that how all his fights go anyway?

dude its pre crisis supes he literally would just come up with new powers in the middle of a fight

Originally posted by superman302
dude its pre crisis supes he literally would just come up with new powers in the middle of a fight
After a struggle?

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
After a struggle?

You're wasting your time. Obviously this guy can't accept that while pre crisis Supes is powerful he isn't ALL powerful.

Originally posted by Darth_Erebus
1)Thing

2)She Hulk

3)Gladiator

4)Morg (enhanced)

5)Thanos

6)Darkseid(current)

7)Tyrant (full power)

Pre-Crisis Superman could snuff out stars, shift planets, and literally come up with new powers on the go. Yet this gauntlet includes such people as the Thing (who couldn't beat the current Superboy, let alone current Superman ....yet he is facing PreCrisis Superman?????!!!!), and She-Hulk?
Morg would fall just as quickly (this is Pre-Crisis Supes).
As for the other 3, first of all Darkseid should be before Thanos (you said current DarkSeid, who was whooped by current Superman and impaled on the Source Wall. If current Superman can make Darkseid scream, what would PRe-Crisis Superman do?)
Thanos. He would win easily against current Superman. Against PRe-Crisis Superman the Mad Titan would need the Infinity Gauntlet. Without it PRe-C Supes would simply develop new abilities and introduce the mad Titan to his beloved.
Tyrant .....now we are talking. And Pre-Crisis would definitely meet his challenge here. Tyrant has faced Galactus before.

It's by my understanding that pre-crisis superman was so inconsistant that sometimes normal punches would hurt him and sometimes he'd push time backwards with his hands through pure strength.

Full powered Tyarnt would be far too much for any Superman.

tyrant would probably kill him, precrisis supermans powerful but not that powerful to destroy galaxies like in the fight Galactus vs Tyrant had.

if it was pre crisis darkseid, the fight would finish there.

if it isnt, hed get to tha last guy and wail all over him and destroy him.

Originally posted by Xplosive
Full powered Tyarnt would be far too much for any Superman.

He should be, yes ! But he isn't really. There was a Debate about Pre Crisis Superman, and if you compare the feats he would give Galactus a good match. Silly i know, but true. Cum'on the guy sneezed away a Solar System. !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tyrant is the only debatable fight on this thread.

Everyone else is snuffed out in a split second.

Against Tyrant - who is massively powerful - Supes would probably get smacked about for a few seconds, then realising how awesomely powerful Tyrant is, he'd distract him by leaving multiple images of himself everywhere, throw a coupla planets at him so he's mildly stunned, them punch him to the end of time where he can cause harm to no-one.

Originally posted by yahman
He should be, yes ! But he isn't really. There was a Debate about Pre Crisis Superman, and if you compare the feats he would give Galactus a good match. Silly i know, but true. Cum'on the guy sneezed away a Solar System. !!!!!!!!!!!!!


Oh come on. He wouldn't last one second against Galactus. This only goes to show some people are as unrealistic about pre crisis Supes as others are about Wolverine.

Dunno about beating the Big G....

Big G is a full on 100% Cosmic being, more so than anything other than abstracts etc.

It's debatable whether Supes time-travel punches n whatnot'd work on him. Plus - Big G has a Cosmic Awareness that'd probably let him see Supes, even when Supes is going faster than light.

Supes could I spose throw some planets at G's face - but Big G in has fully powered state has enough to blow planets to bits.

It'd be a good fight, but I can't really see how Supes' be able to kill him.

Originally posted by superman302
dude precrisis supes couldnt be beat i mean he literally sneezed to hard before and took out a galaxy

and he got his ass handed to him by Composite Superman

I don't know anything about this Composite Superman - can u please post some information?

And Pre-Crisis Superman always held back - hence he got his ass handed to him by a lot of people. I'm assuming in this thread that he isn't holding back.

Originally posted by Darth_Erebus
I did, I doubt he gets past Morg. He'd definately get to tyrant

Originally posted by Ex11B
and he got his ass handed to him by Composite Superman

lol yea but wasnt composite supes a mixture of batman supes and the whole legion team

Originally posted by ZephroCarnelian
Dunno about beating the Big G....

Big G is a full on 100% Cosmic being, more so than anything other than abstracts etc.

It's debatable whether Supes time-travel punches n whatnot'd work on him. Plus - Big G has a Cosmic Awareness that'd probably let him see Supes, even when Supes is going faster than light.

Supes could I spose throw some planets at G's face - but Big G in has fully powered state has enough to blow planets to bits.

It'd be a good fight, but I can't really see how Supes' be able to kill him.


how the hell is pre-crisis going give Big G a good battle.

Big G desotyed Galaxies with his blasts.

as for faster than light etc-------------- He makes people like that.

Big G whould take Pre Superman with no problem

Originally posted by kgkg
how the hell is pre-crisis going give Big G a good battle.

Big G desotyed Galaxies with his blasts.

as for faster than light etc-------------- He makes people like that.

Big G whould take Pre Superman with no problem

and superman destroyes them with a sneez

but as far as composite superman these are his powers

In terms of abilities and raw power, the Composite Superman was one of the most powerful enemies Superman and Batman ever faced. In addition to all of Superman's powers (derived from Supergirl), the Composite Superman's strength and invunerability levels were three times as powerful as Superman's because Legionnaires Mon-El and Ultra Boy were invunerable and possessed super-strength. The Composite Superman also possessed numerous special powers, derived from various Legion members:

The ability to grow to giant size (Colossal Boy)
The ability to shrink (Shrinking Violet)
The ability to divide into 3 people (Triplicate Girl)
The ability to fire lightning bolts (Lightning Lad)
The ability to turn invisible (Invisible Kid)
The ability to inflate into a large ball (Bouncing Boy)
The ability to stretch any part of his body (Elastic Lad)
The ability to shapeshift (Chameleon Boy)
Telepathy (Saturn Girl)
12th level intelligence (Brainiac 5)
Magnetic powers (Cosmic Boy)
X-ray vision that could see through lead (Ultra Boy)
The ability to transmute elements (Element Lad)
The ability to phase through solid matter (Phantom Girl)
Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composite_Superman"

Originally posted by superman302
and superman destroyes them with a sneez

but as far as composite superman these are his powers

In terms of abilities and raw power, the Composite Superman was one of the most powerful enemies Superman and Batman ever faced. In addition to all of Superman's powers (derived from Supergirl), the Composite Superman's strength and invunerability levels were three times as powerful as Superman's because Legionnaires Mon-El and Ultra Boy were invunerable and possessed super-strength. The Composite Superman also possessed numerous special powers, derived from various Legion members:

The ability to grow to giant size (Colossal Boy)
The ability to shrink (Shrinking Violet)
The ability to divide into 3 people (Triplicate Girl)
The ability to fire lightning bolts (Lightning Lad)
The ability to turn invisible (Invisible Kid)
The ability to inflate into a large ball (Bouncing Boy)
The ability to stretch any part of his body (Elastic Lad)
The ability to shapeshift (Chameleon Boy)
Telepathy (Saturn Girl)
12th level intelligence (Brainiac 5)
Magnetic powers (Cosmic Boy)
X-ray vision that could see through lead (Ultra Boy)
The ability to transmute elements (Element Lad)
The ability to phase through solid matter (Phantom Girl)
Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composite_Superman"
so he destoys Big G?

Originally posted by kgkg
how the hell is pre-crisis going give Big G a good battle.

Big G destroyed Galaxies with his blasts.

as for faster than light etc-------------- He makes people like that.

Big G would take Pre-Crisis Superman with no problem


As for Supes vs Big G - Galactus doesn't have galaxy destroying power all the time. Otherwise Thor wouldn't be able to drive him off quite easily.

And we're talking about Pre-Crisis Superman un-capped here. With his self-imposed limits taken off. Bloodlust.

PC Superman can hear and see everything in the entire universe at once when his inhibitions are removed.

Even with his limits in place he can throw planets and fly at 365,000 times the speed of light. Or more.

He can already travel through time with greater ease than anyone and fly to other planes of existence, other dimensions. He can even take people there and trap them there. Even magical creatures can't get back from such places if Supes doesn't want them to.

Even Myx is sometimes scared of Supes - and Myx has such power as to make most Cosmics look laughable.

I'm not saying that Supes would definitely win at all.

And the way he is portrayed in the comics, he would most definiterly not win.

But if Pre-Crisis Superman fought at his full potential, he could indeed give Big G a good fight.

A weak Galactus (hungry)

even when hungry Galactus owned Marvel earth.

it's not that he doesn't always have galaxy desotying attack, he doesn't use it.

PC superman had toubles with monkey , Black Adam , CM whould didn't do anyof the stuff.

PC superman can't take Krp , PC superman lost his powers with Gold KRp.

PC superman was easily defeated by PC Darkseid.

SS a herald of G has done all this and more.


well let's see if Pre Crisis supes can't beat PC darkseid how whould he beat Galactus?

OK, I give up. Pre Crisis Supes could defeat a full powered Tyrant, give Galactus a good fight, and smack around a few Celestials as well.

And the following entities are real:

Santa Claus
The Tooth Fairy
The Easter Bunny
The Great Pumpkin
Peter Pan

And I have 2 bridges for sale, one in Brooklyn, the other in San Francisco.

Originally posted by Darth_Erebus
OK, I give up. Pre Crisis Supes could defeat a full powered Tyrant, give Galactus a good fight, and smack around a few Celestials as well.

And the following entities are real:

Santa Claus
The Tooth Fairy
The Easter Bunny
The Great Pumpkin
Peter Pan

And I have 2 bridges for sale, one in Brooklyn, the other in San Francisco.

um how much do you want for those bridges?

Originally posted by yahman
Cum'on the guy sneezed away a Solar System. !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Which is how much of galaxies. Supposedly about 100 billion Solar Systems creates galaxie, Tyrant in battle destroyed galaxies, so get the picture. So saying that about Superman and Solar System couldnt be called some feat to compare it with Tyrant. Solar Sytem is joke. That what like Superman did is like 0,00000000001 compared to galaxie, not mentioning galaxies.
So literally, Pre Crisis Superman power level is about 0,0000000000001 Tyrant full power level.
Believe that Pre-Crisis Superman would be joke to full power Tyrant, not mentioning Full powered Galactus, who defeated mighty Tyrant.

. . . . are you guys doubting pre Crisis Superman?
Do you forget he could erase minds, had telekenesis, and pyschic powers, could fly BACKWARDS multiples of light speed, dodging between rays of radiation and light while inventing machines Reed Richards and Forge couldn't even come up with "in a heartbeat" and even time travel? Hypnotic vision? super ventriloquism!?
Come on now.

Originally posted by Xplosive
Which is how much of galaxies. Supposedly about 100 billion Solar Systems creates galaxie, Tyrant in battle destroyed galaxies, so get the picture. So saying that about Superman and Solar System couldnt be called some feat to compare it with Tyrant. Solar Sytem is joke. That what like Superman did is like 0,00000000001 compared to galaxie, not mentioning galaxies.
So literally, Pre Crisis Superman power level is about 0,0000000000001 Tyrant full power level.
Believe that Pre-Crisis Superman would be joke to full power Tyrant, not mentioning Full powered Galactus, who defeated mighty Tyrant.

if tyrant is so cool where is he at these day?

Originally posted by Xplosive
Which is how much of galaxies. Supposedly about 100 billion Solar Systems creates galaxie, Tyrant in battle destroyed galaxies, so get the picture. So saying that about Superman and Solar System couldnt be called some feat to compare it with Tyrant. Solar Sytem is joke. That what like Superman did is like 0,00000000001 compared to galaxie, not mentioning galaxies.
So literally, Pre Crisis Superman power level is about 0,0000000000001 Tyrant full power level.
Believe that Pre-Crisis Superman would be joke to full power Tyrant, not mentioning Full powered Galactus, who defeated mighty Tyrant. and Superman punched the Anti-Monitor into oblivion who is>>>>Tyrant or Big G.

Originally posted by Juntai
and Superman punched the Anti-Monitor into oblivion who is>>>>Tyrant or Big G.

And The Hulk punched pre crisis supes into orbit. Where's the consistancy in that?

Originally posted by superman302
Ff Tyrant is so cool where is he at these day?

If Pre-Crisis Superman is so cool where is he at these day?

Originally posted by Darth_Erebus
And The Hulk punched pre crisis supes into orbit. Where's the consistancy in that?

when was this??? are you thinkin about their sorta recent fight cause that definently wasnt pre crisis supes, i remember back when precrisis supes fought the hulk and hulk wasnt able to do nothing to supes.

Originally posted by Xplosive
If Pre-Crisis Superman is so cool where is he at these day?

hes so cool that they remade him into post crisis superman, funny how they didnt do the same tyrant.

Actually, the other Superman left...

Originally posted by Juntai
Actually, the other Superman left...

yea but his image was remade

Originally posted by superman302
dude precrisis supes couldnt be beat i mean he literally sneezed to hard before and took out a galaxy

I get so tired of hearing this...

Pre-crisis Superman blew away a SOLAR SYSTEM (which is quite a bit smaller than a Galaxy, mind you,) as a result of inhaling Mxyzptlk's sneezing powder.

Originally posted by superman302
when was this??? are you thinkin about their sorta recent fight cause that definently wasnt pre crisis supes, i remember back when precrisis supes fought the hulk and hulk wasnt able to do nothing to supes.

Actually, Hulk punched him clear out of metropolis. In the last frames of the comic, Superman withstood a punch from Hulk, blocked another, then destroyed a device that was making Hulk angry with his superspeed and heat vision. Neither did much damage to the other.

Originally posted by Juntai
and Superman punched the Anti-Monitor into oblivion who is>>>>Tyrant or Big G. That wouldn't have happened had Darkseid not already blasted Anti-Monitor halfway to hell.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
I get so tired of hearing this...

Pre-crisis Superman blew away a SOLAR SYSTEM (which is quite a bit smaller than a Galaxy, mind you,) as a result of inhaling Mxyzptlk's sneezing powder.


Explain this one then...

"With my Super Breath I propped a GIANT STAR towards the vast entity"

Originally posted by Juntai
Explain this one then...

"With my Super Breath I propped a GIANT STAR towards the vast entity"


That's a star, hardly a galaxy. Nice try though.

Originally posted by Darth_Erebus
That's a star, hardly a galaxy. Nice try though. It's still rediculous

Originally posted by Darth_Erebus
That's so lame. He couldn't "sneeze" any of these opponents out of existance. I admit he'd beat Thing easily. She Hulk would be a little tougher but he'd still win. Gladiator is a whole different matter, it'd be a real tough fight. Morg, with enhanced power cosmic once defeated (or nearly so) all the other Heralds, I think he could take pre crisis Supes. Thanos and Darkseid are even higher on the foodchain. And as for a fully powered Tyrant, he's nearly the equal of Galactus. He could take Pre Crisis Superman, Superman, Superman prime, and any other version of Superman, all combined, and still wonder what that funny blue costume was all about. how can u possibly, with any knowledge at all of him, say that superman prime couldn't beat tyrant. i know this thread isn't about supes prime, that was just pissing me off. and pre-crisis supes could still handle fighting tyrant. it wouldn't be easy for him, but he would pull through in the end by making up some ridiculous new powers, which pre-crisis did all the time.

Originally posted by batmandaman
how can u possibly, with any knowledge at all of him, say that superman prime couldn't beat tyrant. i know this thread isn't about supes prime, that was just pissing me off. and pre-crisis supes could still handle fighting tyrant. it wouldn't be easy for him, but he would pull through in the end by making up some ridiculous new powers, which pre-crisis did all the time.

Obviously you don't know anything about Tyrant, he's destroyed entire galaxies. No version of Superman has ever done anything even close to that. Go ahead, be pissed off, it still doesn't change the facts. Pre Crisis may be powerful, but he's not that powerful.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
I get so tired of hearing this...

Pre-crisis Superman blew away a SOLAR SYSTEM (which is quite a bit smaller than a Galaxy, mind you,) as a result of inhaling Mxyzptlk's sneezing powder.



Actually, Hulk punched him clear out of metropolis. In the last frames of the comic, Superman withstood a punch from Hulk, blocked another, then destroyed a device that was making Hulk angry with his superspeed and heat vision. Neither did much damage to the other.

Yea hulk suprised supes with one punch and then supes just stood there and hulk punched him in the stomach as hard as he could and superman didnt even flentch and supermans exact words were"when i dont want to be moved no force on this planet can move me" so yea supes would of owned that fight if he would of wanted to.


As for the sneeze why does it matter how he sneezed i mean he sneezed and blew away a solar system, do you honestly think tyrant could do the same by just sneezing?

Originally posted by kgkg
PC superman had toubles with monkey , Black Adam , CM whould didn't do anyof the stuff.

well let's see if Pre Crisis supes can't beat PC darkseid how would he beat Galactus?

A) This monkey you speak of... Explain who it is... You always bring up 'the monkey' but never explain yourself...

B) A lot of people think that Big G would have trouble with PC Darkseid.

And think of all the amazing feats that Pre-Crisis Superman came up with throughout the decades.

Now realise that he was always holding back. Always. It's a reflex action i.e. he doesn't even know he IS holding back.

This is what happens when Superman's inhibitions are removed.

And this is just his super-senses....

Imagine how amplified his other powers are....

Note the word... Universe....

And I think the 'monkey' that people refer to might be Titano.

Hardly a monkey - rather a 50ft gorilla.

Not that a 50ft ape is a threat at all to Supes.

Except that this one fires K-Nite out of it's eyes!! And it always gets the first hit in thanks to plot-devices.

Now remember that KNite renders Supes immobile and weakened right...

Say there was a Gorilla that fired beams of radiation out of it's eyes... radiation that renders Galactus or somesuch completely weak to.

Could we say that Galactus was owned by a monkey? lol!

No. Likewise Metallo isn't a threat to Supes aside from the effects of KNite to. PC Supes isn't owned by a monkey, by metallo or anyone. He's only owned by magic and KNite.

Now, listen up peeps. I'm not saying that Supes WOULD beat Big G. As he is depicted in character in the comics, he probably would get an ass-whupping. Big G could easily fire out some KNite radiation - heck, even Surfer could.

And Supes as he's depicted in the comics wouldn't dodge it - he'd get hit, immobilised, weakened then crushed by Big G's stupidly large hands.

But... let's just say for a minute that you removed Supes inhibitions and took all of his top feats into hand.... planet smashing strength... capable of traversing the universe nigh instantly... capable of reigniting or snuffing entire stars easily...

He could... just might... give Big G a scrap... Might not win - not against something that's innate to the universe...

But he could give him a scrap at the least...

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Here's your monkey.

Originally posted by ZephroCarnelian
And I think the 'monkey' that people refer to might be Titano.

Hardly a monkey - rather a 50ft gorilla.

Not that a 50ft ape is a threat at all to Supes.

Except that this one fires K-Nite out of it's eyes!! And it always gets the first hit in thanks to plot-devices.

Now remember that KNite renders Supes immobile and weakened right...

Say there was a Gorilla that fired beams of radiation out of it's eyes... radiation that renders Galactus or somesuch completely weak to.

Could we say that Galactus was owned by a monkey? lol!

No. Likewise Metallo isn't a threat to Supes aside from the effects of KNite to. PC Supes isn't owned by a monkey, by metallo or anyone. He's only owned by magic and KNite.

Now, listen up peeps. I'm not saying that Supes WOULD beat Big G. As he is depicted in character in the comics, he probably would get an ass-whupping. Big G could easily fire out some KNite radiation - heck, even Surfer could.

And Supes as he's depicted in the comics wouldn't dodge it - he'd get hit, immobilised, weakened then crushed by Big G's stupidly large hands.

But... let's just say for a minute that you removed Supes inhibitions and took all of his top feats into hand.... planet smashing strength... capable of traversing the universe nigh instantly... capable of reigniting or snuffing entire stars easily...

He could... not could... give Big G a scrap... Might not win - not against something that's innate to the universe...

But he could give him a scrap at the least...

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Here's your monkey.

lets also not forget his time traveling abilities

You mean this...?

Or this....?

lol yup, so i mean if superman really wanted to could he go back in time before the big bang and before galactus was formed and take him out before he became the eater of worlds.

Indeed he could. But that'd count as leaving the battlefield I think lol!

Well, I see the Superman fanboys are totally immune to reason. I give up.

Originally posted by Darth_Erebus
Well, I see the Superman fanboys are totally immune to reason. I give up. Well Ganthet was originally eyeing his birth as a potential ring holder, but then they bore witness to his spectacular awesome power and then said Pre Crisis Superman was created by God for a reason and decided not to ...., then in another issue he found the Sword of Superman, a piece of primodial power of the universe, and then almost became one with his "father", who is apperently God.

i remember one of the OLD superman comics where he kicked @ss against a being with all of the powers of all of the asgard and olympian pantheonic gods

This is pre-crisis supes, which means he can make anything disappear into another dimension just by spinning around it real fast.

Originally posted by Jargon343
This is pre-crisis supes, which means he can make anything disappear into another dimension just by spinning around it real fast.


YAWN! And what happens when Tyrant balsts him into oblivion when he is spinning? Like Galactus, Tyrant can travel through time and alter space. He can also move among dimensions. Even pre crisis Supes isn't powerful enough to take on the likes of Tyrant.

basically pre-crisis supes could do anything he wanted too...

no one could beat him, he would just decide to be more powerful then who he's fighting and he would be. or he'd invent a new tyrant destruction beam eye laser power, stupid? yes, very, but thats why they got rid of pre-crisis supes, cause it was so ridiculous.

Originally posted by Darth_Erebus
And The Hulk punched pre crisis supes into orbit. Where's the consistancy in that? What book did you read?

In my book he threw him into space.

What kind of power does Tyrant use to fight with? Cosmic power...?

Cosmic power isn't KNite or Magic - it's not doing anything to PC Supes.



Here his invulnerability withstands easily an infinite vortex full of cosmic energy.

As he spins in a counter direction to the vortex, in order to break free, he generates so much cosmic power that creation making energy is given off.

Second half.

Dude, dont mess with PC Supez unless your LT or Higher !!!

No - you don't need to be that high lol.

Anyone with KNite or mega magical powers could take him.

Magic and KNite work. Pretty much nothing else does.

A Superpowered android with matter manipulation powers fired a beam of strange energy at Supes, seemingly turning him into solid metal. In fact, after a second he broke free - the beam could only turn the molecules on the outside of his protective aura into metal - everything within it was invulnerable to matter manipulation.

Also - even his weakness to magic went up and down. At one time he was encased in magic metal and couldn't move a muscle. Another time, a Storm God was firing magic lightning bolts at him, each a hundred times more powerful than normal lightning - and Supes was shrugging them off.

He was up and down. If you take his higher appearances and bear in mind that even THEN he was holding back - I think he could give pretty much anyone a good run for their money.



But not LT.

This thread is beyond ridiculous now. I have asked the mods to lock it, I hope they do.

Dude. You find it ridiculous cos you obviously haven't read many PC Supes comics. If you did, you'd see that everything I'm showing you and telling about his abilities is perfectly within the showings of his comics.

"i remember one of the OLD superman comics where he kicked @ss against a being with all of the powers of all of the asgard and olympian pantheonic gods"

Shavam? The guy with multicolor belt?

I dont know how accurate that would be, he had troubles with Atlas, Herc and the likes.

Then again one week he was getting punked and in another he would do all the punking.

LT RULE Z

lol. Ahhh. The inconsistancies of pre-c characters!

If people think that Supes was ridiculous in them days - they should've seen Vartox! lol!

That guy had more powers than even the Manhaunter, didnt he.

And with a more ridiculous cloathing at that.

lol - he looked like Freddie Mercury on steroids wearing a bearskin jacket.

And he could do ANYTHING with his 'hyper-powers.'

And a part-trick of his was having a bath in volcanoes lol!

Originally posted by ZephroCarnelian
Dude. You find it ridiculous cos you obviously haven't read many PC Supes comics. If you did, you'd see that everything I'm showing you and telling about his abilities is perfectly within the showings of his comics.


Actually, I did read a # of his comics in the mid to late 70s before I totally got into Marvel and I still say you guys are exaggerating his powers. How many in this forum have really read pre crisis DC comics? I bet most aren't even close to old enough. I'm 42 and read DC from about 1974 to 78, Marvel from 76 to 82 and just started collecting comics again about 2 years ago. (mostly from ebay)

Ebay! Best place for comics! U get ripped off in stores in England.

And I'm not saying anything that I'm not backing up scans man! I'm not exaggerating his powers - and I'm not saying he'd definitely beat the likes of G or Tyrant.

But he's got way more than Surfer or the likes. So even if he can't win, I'm gone sure he'd be able to put up a good fight.

I also posted the scan of him blowing a giant star with superbreath into a cosmic enemy to defeat him.

You know Juntai - I can never EVER tell when you're being sarcastic or not.

You've got skills man!

Just another free service I offer.

Another free service? What other services do you render?

It's a secret best kept from internet forums.
Never know when such knowledge could land in the hands of evil-doers.

Most evil do-ers in this place still live with their mum and dad.

you should be quite safe!

Damien from OMEN still lived with his parents too.

Originally posted by ImmortalOne
Dude, dont mess with PC Supez unless your LT or Higher !!!


So you're saying PC Supes could take Phoenix, Eternity, Death, all the Celestials, or a fully powered Big G?

Originally posted by Darth_Erebus
So you're saying PC Supes could take Phoenix, Eternity, Death, all the Celestials, or a fully powered Big G? Do you think he could take Palpatine?

Originally posted by ZephroCarnelian
lol - he looked like Freddie Mercury on steroids wearing a bearskin jacket.

And he could do ANYTHING with his 'hyper-powers.'

And a part-trick of his was having a bath in volcanoes lol!
Vartox was friggin great

He was lana langs boyfriend - do you remeber Captain Power and his Saunch - he was a popeye rip off who ate alien sauncha seaweed. Funny as ****.

Pre crisis when badly written owns

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Do you think he could take Palpatine?


Probably, but Palpatine is hardly on the level of the others previously mentioned.

Originally posted by Darth_Erebus
Probably, but Palpatine is hardly on the level of the others previously mentioned. Yea your right.

Yoda had Paltpatine beat but a stroke of bad luck changed that.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Yea your right.

Yoda had Paltpatine beat but a stroke of bad luck changed that.

So what does this have to do with Pre Crisis Supes vs Marvel abstracts? All the luck in existance couldn't help him here.

Against an abstract being - no Supes wouldn't stand a chance - there's not really anything to fight against, lol. Whereas their matter manipulation powers would easily bypass his forcefield.

The only reason I suggest that Supes could bring the battle to Big G is that Galactus has a physical form. Of course, if you argue that G's body is only an 'extension' or 'manifestation' of G's cosmic otherworldy 'essence', then no Supes won't win, lol!

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And Whirly - Vartox was a muppet, lol! So much PIS in his stories lol; he could do anything, absolutely anything with his powers - but he couldn't enable Lana to breathe the atmosphere of his planet....? lol!

And Cap Strong? He was such a blatant rip off of Popeye lol! I have one issue where Supes uses Cap as a 'bowling ball' to throw at this monster lol!!

Madness.

Damn, even PC Luthor was a badass. He'd surely beat Tyrant.

Light bulb + flash light + coil spring + orange juice = time warp?

I gotta try that some day...

Pre-crisis DC comics were for entertainment purposes only...

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