what would have happened if anakinbeat obi-wan?

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mace=badass
im not sure if i believe the ending to rots videogame so im asking you
sorry if its been done before i searched but only versus came up

Darth_Glentract
Anakin would not have killed Sidous like the game showed. At least he wouldn't have killed him for a long time. Anakin would eventually have become the most powerful person the galaxy has ever seen.

Se7in
I don't know. Why didn't Anakin become the most powerful even when Obi beat him? Anakin would most likely have been a much better duelist in the OT. Luke would most likely not have been trained. No more Jedi, except for Yoda, and maybe some survivors scattered throughout the galaxy that would be hunted down in due time. Galaxy stays Empire for much longer, though not forever. Yuuzhan Vong attack, however are much less successful, due to the fact that the Empire is still strong, way stronger than the would-be Repulic that the Yuuzhan Vong originally fought.

Gryn Jabar
Originally posted by Se7in
I don't know. Why didn't Anakin become the most powerful even when Obi beat him? .
Loss of Midiclorins (sp) when he got his legs+armed hacked off, limits due to machinery (no force lightning,etc).

Se7in
I hate that stupid midichlorian idea. It makes the Force seem like a physical entity and not the mystical aura it should be.

Tangible God
If Obi lost to ANakin, the galaxy would be screwed for generations.

jollyjim311
I could see Anakin running back to the ship, finding Padme dead, then eventually killing the Emperor because he would blame him for Padme's death. Despite that the Empire would become powerful and the rebellion would be crushed during the time of Ep. 4 because Luke wouldn't be there to blow up the death star. As previously stated Yuzzan Vong attacks would be less devastating

Tangible God
More like, they wouldn't dare go near the galaxy for millenia.

exanda kane
Even if Anakin did kill the Emporer its likely that the Empire would just fall apart - he's not a Politician...

roughrider
Originally posted by Se7in
I hate that stupid midichlorian idea. It makes the Force seem like a physical entity and not the mystical aura it should be.

It's a perfectly sensible idea. With a Republic of Systems spread over hundreds of worlds, the Jedi would need some testing procedure to find new students from among uncounted trillions of inhabitants. Eventually, they found the scientific solution - blood samples from young children that demonstrate force potential, by measurements counts of a microscopic entity called a midichlorian. I imagine the Jedi, some time back, did scientific research in finding out the possible source for the force; with a responsibility of helping to manage the galaxy, they wouldn't sit being blinkered by mysticism alone.

roughrider
And if Anakin killed Obi-Wan, then he would have had Luke and Leia to raise as he wished, in the dark side, but probably The Emperor would have seen to their deaths somehow, as a threat to him.

Tangible God
Originally posted by roughrider
It's a perfectly sensible idea. With a Republic of Systems spread over hundreds of worlds, the Jedi would need some testing procedure to find new students from among uncounted trillions of inhabitants. Eventually, they found the scientific solution - blood samples from young children that demonstrate force potential, by measurements counts of a microscopic entity called a midichlorian. I imagine the Jedi, some time back, did scientific research in finding out the possible source for the force; with a responsibility of helping to manage the galaxy, they wouldn't sit being blinkered by mysticism alone. We know WHY it's there, but it's fictional, and fiction you can alter. The whole IDEA of the midicholrians is what we hate, it turns the Force from "a mystical and powerful aura," into something that is bound to sentients by science and genetic make-up.

Before the PT, the Force was the bomb. It was something that even the Jedi couldn't fully comprehend. We didn't know where it came from, or what makes certain individuals sensitive to it, it was utterly random. Now though, there's a bilogical reason to why, the Force has become, mortal.

Captain REX
Originally posted by jollyjim311
I could see Anakin running back to the ship, finding Padme dead, then eventually killing the Emperor because he would blame him for Padme's death. Despite that the Empire would become powerful and the rebellion would be crushed during the time of Ep. 4 because Luke wouldn't be there to blow up the death star. As previously stated Yuzzan Vong attacks would be less devastating

Padme didn't die on Mustafar. If he came back to her, he would probably apologize or something.

Gryn Jabar
That would be... interesting to see, to say the least. "Err, sorry about the whole, you know, seizing power and strangling you thing". big grin

roughrider
Originally posted by Tangible God
We know WHY it's there, but it's fictional, and fiction you can alter. The whole IDEA of the midicholrians is what we hate, it turns the Force from "a mystical and powerful aura," into something that is bound to sentients by science and genetic make-up.

Before the PT, the Force was the bomb. It was something that even the Jedi couldn't fully comprehend. We didn't know where it came from, or what makes certain individuals sensitive to it, it was utterly random. Now though, there's a bilogical reason to why, the Force has become, mortal.

Where was it ever said the Jedi regarded the force as a mystery they still didn't understand? They only disagreed about certain aspects; like Qui-Gon's conviction about "the living force."
And the midicholrian idea doesn't mean the force is science-based; it's just a scientific parallel that they found with force-sensitive individuals. I don't think if someone got a heavy blood transfusion from a Jedi, they would become more force-sensitive. It isn't bound by science.

jollyjim311
Originally posted by Gryn Jabar
That would be... interesting to see, to say the least. "Err, sorry about the whole, you know, seizing power and strangling you thing". big grin

..."but honey, it wasn't my fault, they made me do it, we all have accidents, geez, your over reacting... is it that time of month again?"

Don't think that would work unless he used the infamous Skywalker whine.

roughrider
Yeah...Luke never knew his father but picked up the old man's whine, no problem! laughing

Tangible God
Originally posted by roughrider
Where was it ever said the Jedi regarded the force as a mystery they still didn't understand? They only disagreed about certain aspects; like Qui-Gon's conviction about "the living force."
And the midicholrian idea doesn't mean the force is science-based; it's just a scientific parallel that they found with force-sensitive individuals. I don't think if someone got a heavy blood transfusion from a Jedi, they would become more force-sensitive. It isn't bound by science. No, no, I'm not talking about what the Jedi think of midichorlians, I'm talking about why, WE, the people who watch the movies, hate them.

The Force has now become bound to people only with a high enough count. It's been, in our view, limited, and mortalised.

I'm repeating myself. It was a mystical aura that was CREATED, but not SCIENTIFICALLY BOUND to, all living things. It was some mysterious field that noone, not even Jedi fully understood, or the reasons for why it chooses people to be sensitive, or where or what it it truly is and how there's even an understanding of it in the first place.

But now that's been partly answered. It chooses people to be sensitive because of they're MIDICHORLIAN count, we understand and HEAR it because of them, life itself no longer resides on the Force, it now resides on the Midi's.

The Force has become simplified, yet complicated. THAT'S why they're bashed.

jollyjim311
I'm sure it's been said before, but never really that well, way to go God(haha)

roughrider
Originally posted by Tangible God
No, no, I'm not talking about what the Jedi think of midichorlians, I'm talking about why, WE, the people who watch the movies, hate them.

The Force has now become bound to people only with a high enough count. It's been, in our view, limited, and mortalised.

I'm repeating myself. It was a mystical aura that was CREATED, but not SCIENTIFICALLY BOUND to, all living things. It was some mysterious field that noone, not even Jedi fully understood, or the reasons for why it chooses people to be sensitive, or where or what it it truly is and how there's even an understanding of it in the first place.

But now that's been partly answered. It chooses people to be sensitive because of they're MIDICHORLIAN count, we understand and HEAR it because of them, life itself no longer resides on the Force, it now resides on the Midi's.

The Force has become simplified, yet complicated. THAT'S why they're bashed.

Well, I never bashed the idea.
Even in the original trilogy, we get the idea that just because all living things may be bound by the Force, not everyone has the capability to access it with enough training. Han, he had no feeling for the Force. And we saw early in the EU, through Heir To The Empire, Leia had only a small capability with the Force compared with Luke. They just didn't answer the question why, until TPM.
People went really over the edge with the midichorlians: "What, now Lucas says the Force is some blood disease? That's Bulls**t! "And yadayada...just chill already.

Sesse
This midichloridian idea is quite interesting...

If something can be lost, it can be gained aswell!

So if we suppose that all people have some midichlorodians in their blood, the jedi should filter it from the blood people donate. And then give it to padawans. And if midichloridians are "animals", then their numbers would eventually grow larger and larger.

2 midis -> 4 midis -> 8 midis -> 16 midis ->32 midis ->64 midis ->128 midis ->256 midis -> 512 midis.... and the list goes on.

Im sure that the force sensitivity is more related to the chemical structure of subjects blood. Certain types of blood have inherently more nutrients for midichloridians.

lol . Too scientific.

But they needed a way to measure force.

Tru_Slice
Lucas just had to break out a crap way of saying that Anakin was powerful.

Tangible God
Originally posted by roughrider
Well, I never bashed the idea.
Even in the original trilogy, we get the idea that just because all living things may be bound by the Force, not everyone has the capability to access it with enough training. Han, he had no feeling for the Force. And we saw early in the EU, through Heir To The Empire, Leia had only a small capability with the Force compared with Luke. They just didn't answer the question why, until TPM.
People went really over the edge with the midichorlians: "What, now Lucas says the Force is some blood disease? That's Bulls**t! "And yadayada...just chill already. It IS bullshit.

It's BECAUSE we don't know why the Force chooses people that makes it so interesting. It's a mystery, a total f*ckin mystery that even the Jedi can't solve. And we liked it that way, it made the Force appear even more ethereal.

But like Tru Slice said, GL needed a way to prove Anakin, the future Vader, is all powerful. What better way than to create a number count on something, where he exceeds even Yoda.

The Midi's can have all the reason and logic behind them, but since all of SW is not real, than we don't base the Force on logic, but interest.

roughrider
Sometimes you can't win, no matter what you do.
After seeing AOTC for the first time, my friend felt kind of regretful that the mystery behind Boba Fett had been taken away, and now we know what the inside of the SLAVE 1 looks like - like he didn't want to know.
I just shake my head at what people will pick on.

Tangible God
It's the sign of a true fan--picking something to death until the story's dead. Thank God I'm not responsible for this.

So ya see? The mystery behind things is what's liked. take it away and, PFFT! what's the point anymore?

roughrider
Damn! What am I gonna do for the rest of my life now? laughing out loud
Star Wars is over!

jollyjim311
Originally posted by roughrider
Damn! What am I gonna do for the rest of my life now? laughing out loud
Star Wars is over!

Then you can leave blasphemer!

I also, liked the mystery behind everything, it was so cool. The Boba think kind of made me mad too.

roughrider
No, I won't leave! I won't give up...it was a moment of weakness! big grin
Star Wars only leaves my cold, dead hands!

overlord
Originally posted by Tru_Slice
Lucas just had to break out a crap way of saying that Anakin was powerful.

Yup.. That was what Lucas meant with the whole SW saga.
But he didn't really convinced anybody. Just look in the versus forum.

DarthMaul9123
well.... star wars is in fact over but i heard that there was a tv series coming on and stuff but i didnt know when it was coming out i also heard all the movies were being remastered and re-re-released except for the pt series that would be rereleased and I thought it may have been in 3D ??? idk i read it in entertainment magazine a long time ago

Tangible God
Ugh! They just gotta ruin the story even further by making a TV show.

badboyjedi
Originally posted by Se7in
I hate that stupid midichlorian idea. It makes the Force seem like a physical entity and not the mystical aura it should be.




he's right the whole idea was a stopgap for lucas if i were him i would've written the story to where Qui-gon would've sensed the force in anikin

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