The defenders

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HigH ScholaR
well i'm currently collecting the defenders mini series and i think it is quite good and just want to know if anyone else is reading it and post comments on what they think of it.

cover of defenders issue 5

jrodslam
Namor is in it, so you know im collecting, but it seems a bit too slow for me. I want more action. Its not like its an ongoing. There isnt a proper balance of story and action to me. And although im not much of a Surfer fan. I think it real bad that hes not really part of the team. I pray that some bigtime action can show up. Im getting tired of seeing Dormammu and his sister talk all the time.

So far i give it a 5 1/2 out of 10.

Draco69
I think the book is hilarious. Especially the semi-sex scene between Hulk and Umar.

HigH ScholaR
i will admit there isn't much action but the humour is good but an't help but bring up inconsistances and odd stuff that will now be acceptd as canon like silver surfer never coming across surfers before (rolls eyes).

it seems though more like the big 3 and not the big 4

waiting to see the defenders trash the marvel heroes again in issue 5 although this will be ofcause dormamru's versions of them.

anyway they are trying to balnce the action/seriuosness with comedy which most of the times just doesn't connect they should just either town down the humour or make it a pure funny book.

anyway when bruce wanted to transform, can banner still keep his mind when he wishes to transform; in one of the panels when banner tried to tramsform i reconise all the others like shazhulk but the first one i have a picture in my mind but can't place it on the characters where banner got those catchphrase from.

Oerall the comic 7.5 out of 10

The Ion
Hulk sex? I must pick this up asap.

HigH ScholaR
Originally posted by The Ion
Hulk sex? I must pick this up asap.

man it was funny

ISSUE 3 it was

long pig
It's great.

Quick Freeze
i just finished The Order miniseries and i loved it so im more inclined to finsh the rest of v2 before i move onto this one. however dematties is one of my favorite writers ever so i read the first issue and i loved the quarrels between bruce and namor, it was hilarious.

but from what ive read on this thread so far surfer doesnt really come back after that stupid surfer encounter thing so that makes me somewhat reluctant to read it just because i love what surfer brings to the table as a character.

HigH ScholaR
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i'm even buying it now just to see the surfer to something significant although when he appears briefly 2-3 panels he brings humour.

Anyone Else

olympian
"I think the book is hilarious. Especially the semi-sex scene between Hulk and Umar."

"Hulk sex? I must pick this up asap."

Ask, and ye shall see it.

Stamina for this kind of " work out " its essential, Hulk.

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Kudos to monkeyman at SHC.

8bitChris
The Defenders mini is by the same guys who did the "I can't believe it's not the Justice League" right?

olympian
Its the same team. Giffen/Maguire.

Im forgetting the other writters name, aint i.

HigH ScholaR
I think this limited series is more humourous then the previous version.

But, how many limited series does marvel need to make before they realise that they need to make an ongoing series

ScarletSpider
The last one was an ongoing that sucked.

Joe Q. said he wants to keep the Defenders around, although to my knowledge, this mini hasn't been getting the sales they wanted. Oh well, at least the name is fresh and workable in people's minds again.

HigH ScholaR
How much is it selling each issue

willRules
Originally posted by olympian
"I think the book is hilarious. Especially the semi-sex scene between Hulk and Umar."

"Hulk sex? I must pick this up asap."

Ask, and ye shall see it.

Stamina for this kind of " work out " its essential, Hulk.

http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/1161/img00960mj.jpg

http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/5214/img00977wk.jpg

http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/4613/img00981xy.jpg

http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/2456/img00994qh.jpg

http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/6479/img01008cz.jpg

http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/3057/img01018qj.jpg

Kudos to monkeyman at SHC.

cool scans laughing out loud

DarkCrawler
Well, I'm collecting everything with Namor in it, so I am collecting this too.

It's nice smile

jrodslam
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Well, I'm collecting everything with Namor in it, so I am collecting this too.

It's nice smile

Same here DC. Make sure you pick up the Ultimate F.F.'s next 3 issues. "Tomb of Namor" storyline. NAMOR ULTIMATIZED!!! Whoot!

DarkCrawler
Originally posted by jrodslam
Same here DC. Make sure you pick up the Ultimate F.F.'s next 3 issues. "Tomb of Namor" storyline. NAMOR ULTIMATIZED!!! Whoot!

big grin

And the Namor "What If?" Marvel is doing...

jrodslam
thumb up

HigH ScholaR
Any comics about or involving Doc strange and/or silver surfer out or comig out

HigH ScholaR
So what happend in issue 5

DarkCrawler
I don't think if it has been released yet. If it has....PLEASE PUT SPOILER TAGS IF YOU TELL SOMETHING!

Namor did some good feats at issue #4.

HigH ScholaR
no don't worry imhaven't seen it either, can't remember what did namor do again oh and do you like what they are doing with Silver Surfer

HigH ScholaR
why is there a delay with issue 5

DarkCrawler
Originally posted by HigH ScholaR
no don't worry imhaven't seen it either, can't remember what did namor do again oh and do you like what they are doing with Silver Surfer

Meh...I think he will come at Issue #5 and save rest of the Defenders.

I like the interaction most in the Defenders. The best is the talk between Namor and Dr. Strange, they have always been the (relatively) normal members of the Defenders, and seem to be closest to be good friends. Hulk considers Namor a friend, and Namor finds Hulk as annoying but still more a friend then a enemy, Doctor Strange interacts with Hulk as he is a child (In a way, he is, at least Savage Hulk) and Silver Surfer is friendly to all.

Interaction was the best part in old Defenders series too:
http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/7848/hulknamorfriend5xk.gif

HigH ScholaR
Yep i agree, though i like the Namour and Hulk bickering alot better

DarkCrawler
It's funny too. big grin

HigH ScholaR
beat line yet has to be about the one about finding nemo and doc atrange to namour about being melodramatic

roughrider
Originally posted by olympian
Its the same team. Giffen/Maguire.

Im forgetting the other writters name, aint i.

It's J.M. DeMatteis. These three were on the Justice League reboot in 1987, after the crisis, for several years. It was a weird and hilarious left-turn; more of a clubhouse than a place for crimefighters. Giffen would plot out and sketch the layouts for Maguire to draw; JMD would do all the dialogue - cracked that one day he'll run out of bad jokes, so he better write while he can! These days, Giffen does full scripts, but they go back to the old method when they collaborate.
The look of smiling sexual exhaustion on Hulk's face is priceless.

Juntai
Originally posted by roughrider
It's J.M. DeMatteis. These three were on the Justice League reboot in 1987, after the crisis, for several years. It was a weird and hilarious left-turn; more of a clubhouse than a place for crimefighters. Giffen would plot out and sketch the layouts for Maguire to draw; JMD would do all the dialogue - cracked that one day he'll run out of bad jokes, so he better write while he can! These days, Giffen does full scripts, but they go back to the old method when they collaborate.
The look of smiling sexual exhaustion on Hulk's face is priceless. DeMatteis wrote Hal's Spectre series.

Quick Freeze
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Meh...I think he will come at Issue #5 and save rest of the Defenders.

I like the interaction most in the Defenders. The best is the talk between Namor and Dr. Strange, they have always been the (relatively) normal members of the Defenders, and seem to be closest to be good friends. Hulk considers Namor a friend, and Namor finds Hulk as annoying but still more a friend then a enemy, Doctor Strange interacts with Hulk as he is a child (In a way, he is, at least Savage Hulk) and Silver Surfer is friendly to all.

Interaction was the best part in old Defenders series too:
http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/7848/hulknamorfriend5xk.gif

unsurpassed in the field of power, yet completley and absolutely awful in where it actually matters to be a team (hence non-team) whether its because they downright hate each other and are somehow forced to work together or because their intentions are actually to work together and be friends but their personalites just prevent that from happening.

that premise will never get old for me. first of all my favorie genre is crossover and the defenders is always a crossover because theyre all already huge names on their own. but the portrayl of the group dynamics of 4 incredibly complex and individualistic characters is timeless imo. they all have their own responsibilites, which are interesting enough, obiviously if their own mags do so well, and although namor's arrogance, hulk's stupidity, and surfer's resentment prevent the members from admitting it, they really do have a twisted, out of whack, care for one another.

like i said unlimited power in cosmic, magical, physical, spiritual, telepathic, and scientific aspects but they just cant do one of the simplist and most natural thing for most of us: being human.

i also love the whole outcasts aspect of them. not only are the drawn together due to their kinship they have with one another in that they are all really different from everyone else, but everytime they encounter anyone, almost always that anyone's immediate responce is either, fear, distrust or just a lack of understanding as to what side their on.

CAPTAIN AMERICA: "If you do this, Defenders--if you leave, you'll be under suspicion forever! Outcasts, outlaws, feared by the world at large. . ."

DR STRANGE: "Outcasts, Captain? Feared?"

NAMOR: "We've been there before, Captain. Many times. We'll surivive."

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