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Of course not.

-AC

Yes, if they only want a cheap thrill is stupid.

If it is for medical reasons. No...

While I may not personally agree with the use of illegal drugs I would say its not if they are used its how they are used that can make someone stupid. Seeing as how some of the really nasty ones crack, meth, heroine leave a mark on you for life

i think it is stupid to take illegal drugs, because it not only effects you but that people around you, i know this from experience.

Originally posted by BackFire
Some are, the ones who allow themselves to get addicted and ruin their lives certainly are, IMO.

Also, I'd venture so far to say that taking illegal drugs is a blatantly stupid act, though not everyone who takes them is stupid themselves, maybe just naive or uneducated on the matter.
my thoughts exactly, especially stressing the naive part here

So drugs have to be illegal to be considered stupid ;

What about Alcohol and Cigarettes, to which users pay a load of tax to the government ? Its legal and they can get you hooked on them.

Originally posted by GCG
So drugs have to be illegal to be considered stupid ;

What about Alcohol and Cigarettes, to which users pay a load of tax to the government ? Its legal and they can get you hooked on them.

Good point. So, what you are saying is, some people who take legal drugs can be just as stupid as those who take illegal drugs.

Originally posted by BackFire
Also, I'd venture so far to say that taking illegal drugs is a blatantly stupid act, though not everyone who takes them is stupid themselves, maybe just naive or uneducated on the matter.

Or educated on the matter and still deciding to do it. You not being able to understand why they would doesn't mean there's no reason to.

People who take drugs aren't all stupid, as you said. There's a huge difference between users and abusers. Those who are stupid with drugs are stupid anyway, the drugs aren't a factor. They're just ruining it for everyone who uses them responsibly.

-AC

Well, if they're educated on the matter, and, as such, know the possible dangers of doing illegal drugs, and still go off and do them, then I definately think that qualifies as being pretty stupid.

Unless they're thinking "I know the dangers, but I don't think they'll happen to me, not me". That would fall under the naive part.

Um yeah not all illegal drugs can be used "responsibly" some are inherently more addictive than others. So anyway, taking drugs is a pretty irresponsible desicion regardless of whether or not you are stupid if you take them.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Good point. So, what you are saying is, some people who take legal drugs can be just as stupid as those who take illegal drugs.

Of course a lot of people, and it is known, die from Tobacco and Alcohol related diseases. So whats the fuss with taking Cocaine ? or Marijuana ? or ant other drug considered illegal ?

Make them legal and that will avoid drug dealers and pushers mixing all the highly toxoc chemicals contanimating the drug.

Native Colombians chew Coca leaves and they live till old age. They dont die out of chewing coca leaves. Even Opium is smoked in Asia and it doesnt kill or to much damage as Alcohol or Tobacco does in Western countries. What kills is the concoxian of the additives.

Originally posted by GCG
So drugs have to be illegal to be considered stupid ;

What about Alcohol and Cigarettes, to which users pay a load of tax to the government ? Its legal and they can get you hooked on them.

Ineed a good point. Though, the topic didn't mention licit drugs such as these so they weren't brought up.

But yes, many people who do these drugs are also quite stupid.

Originally posted by BackFire
Well, if they're educated on the matter, and, as such, know the possible dangers of doing illegal drugs, and still go off and do them, then I definately think that qualifies as being pretty stupid.

Not all drugs have equal amounts of danger. No amount of educating yourself on heroin is going to prevent you from more than likely coming out the bad end, or not coming out. Drugs like weed, mushrooms etc...if you educate yourselves on them, there are safe ways to use them. They're not all, dive in and take a risk. That's only the view of someone uneducated on them.

Originally posted by BackFire
Unless they're thinking "I know the dangers, but I don't think they'll happen to me, not me". That would fall under the naive part.

Why are you assuming there are just two routes; stupid and naive? Why is it so mind-bogglingly hard for you to accept that some very intelligent and able people choose to use drugs (not abuse), do so safely and live to tell about it?

Then you said people who do the drugs such as alcohol are also stupid. Where are you getting this? Are you just anti-drugs for the sake of being anti-drugs, because they're drugs?

-AC

LOL more people at least in the USA are probably hooked on more perscription drugs then any pusher on the street could hope to move

Originally posted by BackFire
Ineed a good point. Though, the topic didn't mention licit drugs such as these so they weren't brought up.

But yes, many people who do these drugs are also quite stupid.

To answer the question of the topic at hand:

Its Stupid to allow a drug to determine the way you live.
Its Stupid to allow a substance to take hold of your finances.

Its not stupid to use drugs for recreational purposes.

Never said intelegent people don't use drugs, nor did I say that these are the ONLY two routes that people go down, sloppy assumption on your part, AC. I'm well aware that many people of intelegence use illicit drugs. Though, IMO doing anythign knowingly illegal is a foolish act for anyone to take part in.

Nor did I say that ALL illicit drugs were equally dangerous. Not sure where you came to that conclusion.

And again, I said MANY are stupid, because many become dependant on alchohal and cigarettes in order to relax and relieve stress. Anyone who allows themselves to become dependant on a drug, is, IMO pretty stupid.

Originally posted by GCG
So drugs have to be illegal to be considered stupid ;
No, people do stupid things everyday that are perfectly legal. Go stick your hand on a hot oven. All the cool kids are doing it..


True, but ciggerates aren't "narcotics", they don't impare your judgement. Alchahol does however and if you were anti-drug, you'd probably want to re-instate to prohibition law.

Frankly, SpellJammer doesn't care, just do things right.

If you're going to legalise alchahol, treat drugs as you would alchahol, maybe even with strcter penalties. Stupid people, will do stupid things, Smart people, know better then to dope themselves up. Regardless of the substance used.

If you're going to ilegalise it, re-instate prohibition. We all saw how bad it was, but the same thing is happening with drugs, we know it's out there, the goverment's just having to move around constantly trying to stop it. HOWEVER, to play devil's advocate here, if you re-instate prohibition. Alchahol is cheaper to produce then narcotics, so it would become cheaper, and thus more people would buy ilegal alchahol then drugs, which would decrease the threat level of drugs indirectly..

Originally posted by GCG
To answer the question of the topic at hand:

Its Stupid to allow a drug to determine the way you live.
Its Stupid to allow a substance to take hold of your finances.

Its not stupid to use drugs for recreational purposes.

true that^

its stupid to live your life without experiencing things as well.

Oh, I see. You're not so much calling the people stupid, as the act they partake in? Gotcha.

I wasn't saying that you were implying that last part, I was just stating it.

Lastly, why do you believe anything illegal is a foolish act? Just out of curiousity. Because on topic, mushrooms and weed are natural. I mean, surely you don't consider it that much of a stupid act to educate yourself on something unknown to you, then trying it. People do that every day. Or is it PURELY because of the fact that it's the partaking of an illegal act?

Just curious, not having a go.

-AC

Marijunna and mushrooms are in the same boat as alchahol.

Either prohibit all of them.
Or let the goverment regulate them.

Don't care which side of the coin it flips on, just get R dun..

Originally posted by BackFire
IMO doing anythign knowingly illegal is a foolish act for anyone to take part in.

Bush's war on Iraq was illegal ; therfore is that foolish

Stupid, no. Self-indulgent...certainly.

A huge number of the most brilliant people I've met in my life have been recreational drug users.

I think doing anything illegal is foolish because it's jeopordizing their freedom and possibly, their quality of life. More or less, just because they're partaking in an illegal act. Of course, there are extreme circumstances that would justify taking part in an illegal act. Just a generalization, more or less.

Originally posted by GCG
Bush's war on Iraq was illegal ; therfore is that foolish


Yes, I think it was. And I don't think I'm alone there.

you're sure ar3e not BF

actually, the way the ques is structured...it makes it sound like the person the thread starter was addressing is the "stupid"

illegal drugs are usu illegal for good reason, it is stupid to do them for health consequences, but the people themselves are probably of average intelligence, ...uh that is until the drugs burn the crap out of their brains

If someone told me that feeding a pig pineapples for a month would make its poop taste like gummy bears and its natural as well I still wouldn't try it.......anyway my point is with ANY drug (because if you take "prescription" drugs without a perscription they are also illegal) is that whether or not it is illegal they are far greater ramifications for use with illegal drugs (talking about getting caught) and its a bad descision.

that's disgusting soleran

Originally posted by Julie
actually, the way the ques is structured...it makes it sound like the person the thread starter was addressing is the "stupid"

illegal drugs are usu illegal for good reason, it is stupid to do them for health consequences, but the people themselves are probably of average intelligence, ...uh that is until the drugs burn the crap out of their brains

Licit drugs are illegal, if taken without prescription. Yet they (like Retalin) are administerd to Airforce Pilots.

Does the health of these pilots need these drugs : NO

But if the drugs help pilots get the job done its ok .

Originally posted by BackFire
I think doing anything illegal is foolish because it's jeopordizing their freedom and possibly, their quality of life. More or less, just because they're partaking in an illegal act. Of course, there are extreme circumstances that would justify taking part in an illegal act. Just a generalization, more or less.

But it's their choice and as long as they don't hurt anyone else, it's fine. I know you're not disputing this, just highlighting it.

Soleran, why are you assuming there are greater consequences for illegal drugs? Weed has never killed anyone, ever.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
But it's their choice and as long as they don't hurt anyone else, it's fine. I know you're not disputing this, just highlighting it.
-AC
You can highlight, but you can't pay attention to posts outside your own.

Leana Marie stated "drugs effect people around you, trust me, I know personaly".

So using drugs DOES hurt other people. Everything you do effect someone else. Whether you want to or not, you, SpellJammer, and everybody else has to take responsibility for what they do and don't do in life. Because that's WHAT life is all about.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
But it's their choice and as long as they don't hurt anyone else, it's fine. I know you're not disputing this, just highlighting it.

Soleran, why are you assuming there are greater consequences for illegal drugs? Weed has never killed anyone, ever.

-AC

Ok I never once mentioned death and I am certain if someone wanted to look hard enough we could find some weed driving under the influence piece where there was a death.

I was highlighting more the fact its not the physical pain but the pain in if you get caught or make a mistake and someone else gets hurt.......however like I said before I am not just highlighting illegal drugs but perscription drugs as well.

Its about good descision making at the end of the day and possible repercussions associated with a bad descision.

Originally posted by soleran30
If someone told me that feeding a pig pineapples for a month would make its poop taste like gummy bears and its natural as well I still wouldn't try it.......anyway my point is with ANY drug (because if you take "prescription" drugs without a perscription they are also illegal) is that whether or not it is illegal they are far greater ramifications for use with illegal drugs (talking about getting caught) and its a bad descision.



thats some weird analogy i find hard to realate to

Originally posted by soleran30
Ok I never once mentioned death and I am certain if someone wanted to look hard enough we could find some weed driving under the influence piece where there was a death.

The only time you could MAYBE is by smoking it. In which case it's the smoking that does the damage, not the weed. The process of taking the drug, not the drug. You're not gonna die of lung cancer if you eat weed in a cake. Weed hasn't been responsible for any death. Fact.

Originally posted by soleran30
I was highlighting more the fact its not the physical pain but the pain in if you get caught or make a mistake and someone else gets hurt.......however like I said before I am not just highlighting illegal drugs but perscription drugs as well.

Its about good descision making at the end of the day and possible repercussions associated with a bad descision.

Well decisions are up to those making them. What's good to you might not be good to others and vice versa.

Originally posted by Spelljammer
So using drugs DOES hurt other people. Everything you do effect someone else. Whether you want to or not, you, SpellJammer, and everybody else has to take responsibility for what they do and don't do in life. Because that's WHAT life is all about.

That's just one case. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, I'm saying that it's not factual as you appear to be trying to do.

I take responsibility for what I do, exactly. What someone else feels about a decision I make is of no concern to me for the most part. I can't blame someone else if I overdose on drugs. It's my fault, so therefore it's my decision. No one elses. As usually you're talking out of your backside.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
But it's their choice and as long as they don't hurt anyone else, it's fine. I know you're not disputing this, just highlighting it.

Soleran, why are you assuming there are greater consequences for illegal drugs? Weed has never killed anyone, ever.

-AC


Yep, it's their choice, that doesn't mean I can't see their choice as stupid, obviously. I'm sure you see other peoples choices as stupid as well, I think everyone does.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
The only time you could MAYBE is by smoking it. In which case it's the smoking that does the damage, not the weed. The process of taking the drug, not the drug. You're not gonna die of lung cancer if you eat weed in a cake. Weed hasn't been responsible for any death. Fact.



-AC


Once again let me say this a little clearer........I said driving under the influece of weed could cause a death due to accident......so yes weed can impair your judement and you go for a ride and now you can have a very large effect on people around you.

Enough of that cuz at the end of the day go smoke go drink go do whatever but everything you do can have a possible affect on someone else.......you get sick.....go to a doctor.....you don't pay a bill whatever........every action has an equal and opposite reaction

No, I like to think of myself as smart.

Originally posted by soleran30
Once again let me say this a little clearer........I said driving under the influece of weed could cause a death due to accident......so yes weed can impair your judement and you go for a ride and now you can have a very large effect on people around you.

Hahaha. The crash causes the death. The weed doesn't kill the man. Silly analogy.

-AC

alcohol causes a crash but doesn't kill the man same thing different tool in the job.......

Anyway AC I'm talking more about legal ramifications.........get caught with a 12 pack of beer sitting on your porch.....no get caught with a quarter ounce smoking on your doorstep what happens

Yeah, I don't really care what you're talking about because it's irrelevant.

Weed doesn't kill, which was my original point countering YOUR point of how illegal drugs have higher consequence. Weed is illegal, it's never killed. End of story. A man driving a car under any influence, crashing it, will possibly die. The weed didn't kill him.

-AC

weed isn't the only illegal drug....some of the more potent stuff will kill...hence the stupidity of regularly using them

In answer to the question, no.

He said illegal drugs have heavier consequences, despite cigarettes and alcohol killing nearly as much if not more than all illegal drugs.

Weed, an illegal drug, has never killed. Sorta vapourises his point really.

Using drugs regularly isn't stupidity, at least not as black and white as that.

-AC

it also depends on what we're considering consequences...if we consider the ruination of a life as part consequence, then illegal drugs do have far worse consequences...
BTW, excessively using alcohol would also be dumb...but so would eating 2000 ho hos....moderation, people

Ruination of life quality is a situation attached to drug use of any kind and as time goes on it becomes more and more outlandish.

-AC

I think Absinthe should be legalized

Where do you live ?

Originally posted by Darth Jello
I think Absinthe should be legalized


Love that stuff...

well to the thread starter, I personaly think its an awefully stupit act, in most cases ppl gain nothing by doing drugs, then again we all do stupit acts now and then.

Stupid acts?


That isn't the point.


Bottom line, if it isn't your body....you have NO say in the matter

I think that most people look outside of them selves for something that they feel they don't have. Drugs are a way to change your point of view and feel better about yourself. However, you don't need them to make this kind of change. All you need is to look inside and find the way... hay! man give me that joint, I'm starting to loose it. jk

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Are people who take illegal drugs, stupid?

'Names' begin with capitals letters and his name is 'Norman', not 'Stupid'.

Yes and no.

They may be trying to look cool or fit in. That's stupid.
They may also be on the verge of suicide, desperate to dull their pain. That's saddening.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I think that most people look outside of them selves for something that they feel they don't have. Drugs are a way to change your point of view and feel better about yourself. However, you don't need them to make this kind of change. All you need is to look inside and find the way... hay! man give me that joint, I'm starting to loose it. jk


Shaky, you know I respect you...highly.

however, drugs...at least in my experience...haven't changed my opinion of myself...as much as it has my ability to SHARE that opinion.

My point: right and wrong are subjective....

And while wrong has it's ability t effect other people...those are the rare circumstances....

My proclivity for smoking pot, has NEVER effected anyone else. The "it's illegal" agrument is why my mother hates pot... But, that's also why she's never done it. I might have aneed to escape...but as long as it hurts no one else...it isn't their issue.

Oh, and one person cannot be classed as 'people'.

Welcome.

Here's how you should have worded the question:

Is Norman taking illegal drugs?

or;

Are people who take illegal drugs called 'Norman'?

or maybe you are asking Norman:

Is a person taking illegal drugs, Norman?

One more...

Maybe you were asking Norman about people in general:

Are people taking illegal drugs, Norman?

Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
Oh, and one person cannot be classed as 'people'.

Welcome.

Here's how you should have worded the question:

Is Norman taking illegal drugs?

or;

Are people who take illegal drugs called 'Norman'?

or maybe you are asking Norman:

Is a person taking illegal drugs, Norman?

LOL..that was good.

well by doing drugs knowing its dangeruous is a stupit thing to do for sure, but it dosent mean the person doing it is a stupit person, he could be pretty damn smart and intellegent that is possible too

Originally posted by The Highlord
well by doing drugs knowing its dangeruous is a stupit thing to do for sure, but it dosent mean the person doing it is a stupit person, he could be pretty damn smart and intellegent that is possible too


That's a really HOT nonanswer....

Apparantly being a huge Bon Jovi fan damages more brain cells than being a huge coke fan.

-AC

Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
Oh, and one person cannot be classed as 'people'.

Welcome.

Here's how you should have worded the question:

Is Norman taking illegal drugs?

or;

Are people who take illegal drugs called 'Norman'?

or maybe you are asking Norman:

Is a person taking illegal drugs, Norman?

I am not sure about you.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Apparantly being a huge Bon Jovi fan damages more brain cells than being a huge coke fan.

-AC

what?


I hate to show that I am not a bon jovi fan...but I don't understand...

The Highlord is KMC's notorious Bon Jovi superfan.

-AC

''Apparantly being a huge Bon Jovi fan damages more brain cells than being a huge coke fan.

-AC''

How?

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
The Highlord is KMC's notorious Bon Jovi superfan.

-AC


Ouch!...no one likes struggling with painful crunches on the floor...

I guess that's like liking Enterprise...

what was that f-ing theme song?

You can't sit there and realistically say that drugs you like should be made legal but drugs you don't, shouldn't.

If you're all for your right to use certain drugs, you should be for everyone's right to use whatever they want. Like you said, it's their body.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
You can't sit there and realistically say that drugs you like should be made legal but drugs you don't, shouldn't.

If you're all for your right to use certain drugs, you should be for everyone's right to use whatever they want. Like you said, it's their body.

-AC


That is where you've missed my point before AC....

There are drugs I DO NOT use, that I believe should be legal...

I DO NOT support the legalization...nor the continuation....of man-made drugs, be they legal or not legal, because they ARE detrimental to the human condition.


However, I'm not a libertarian...

My support of "legal drugs" doesn't imply my denial of opinion.

Support self-desrtuctive drugs all you want...

But!...I am in favor of government....just not it's right to intervene in ANY/EVERY aspect of human existance. To do otherwise, would support some aspect of anarchy. To which, I do not subscribe...

Government is a relevant aspect of evolution...therefore, essential to it's continuation.

Well self-destructive drugs are SELF-destructive. I think anyone should be able to take anything they want, their body.

I've got no right preaching about the human condition, because I can speak only for myself.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Well self-destructive drugs are SELF-destructive. I think anyone should be able to take anything they want, their body.

I've got no right preaching about the human condition, because I can speak only for myself.

-AC


That's my point....I'm not preaching to your definition of the human condition....I'm speaking for myself.

I'm not only speaking of "self-destructive" drugs..."Self-destructive" is relative. I despise the governments RIGHT to intervene...but I respect their purpose for doing such....

Pot CAN be self destructive...but "I" don't believe it to be.

I LOVE pot...
I LOVE mushrooms...

but, they effect others differently...

I like cocaine...I Don't pay for it...but I have used it....and I have seen others whose' lives have been DESTROYED by it...

But, man-made drugs that 'I' have encountered have fu.cked up people's lives...not just because they are dependant on them....but because that is the nature of the drug. I've taken Ambien to fall asleep, and experienced a more profound "hi" than I have on ANY drug I've bought off someone. Trust me....

If you don't know what I'm talking about...then you should try it.

It's the kind of "high" you WISH you could forget.

Taking illegal drugs is stupid, but that does not make the person stupid.

You're stupid.

Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
You're stupid.
ok

Yes, they are stupid!

Who? The people who think that the people who take illegal drugs are stupid are stupid?

I don't think there stupid to try something... I think there stupid if they get addicted to something...

i smoke weed occasionally, i dont think i'm stupid. i think people who go into something not knowing any of the risks are are stupid, i know what can happen, i risk it but i have noone to blame but myself if something happens, unlike idiots who take anything and blame the world because of the results

Uh, Yeah, those risks, are, uh, like, uh, bad, yeah, you know, you could, uh, like eat, uh, yeah, uh, a bunch of, uh, like, mm, potato chips, or uh, something.

yeah and chips really relate to the type of risks associated legal and health wise that the drugs in this discussion have

The-total-lack-of-punctuation-in-your-post-makes-me-think-you're-dangerously-out-of-your-mind-on-some-type-of-methamphetamine. True-not-true-yes-or-no-huh-huh-huh?

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
That's my point....I'm not preaching to your definition of the human condition....I'm speaking for myself.

I'm not only speaking of "self-destructive" drugs..."Self-destructive" is relative. I despise the governments RIGHT to intervene...but I respect their purpose for doing such....

Pot CAN be self destructive...but "I" don't believe it to be.

I LOVE pot...
I LOVE mushrooms...

but, they effect others differently...

I like cocaine...I Don't pay for it...but I have used it....and I have seen others whose' lives have been DESTROYED by it...

But, man-made drugs that 'I' have encountered have fu.cked up people's lives...not just because they are dependant on them....but because that is the nature of the drug. I've taken Ambien to fall asleep, and experienced a more profound "hi" than I have on ANY drug I've bought off someone. Trust me....

If you don't know what I'm talking about...then you should try it.

It's the kind of "high" you WISH you could forget.
I don't understand the last part of your post. The high you wish you could forget?

Originally posted by FeceMan
I don't understand the last part of your post. The high you wish you could forget?


Have you ever taken Ambien?


You wish you could forget it, because it's extremely...effective....

but it's cheap(I have insurance) and legal. It would be easy for me to pop one every night and spend the rest of my life in a legally induced high...but I don't do that. That's why I don't consider myself "stupid"

SpellJammer has newfound respect for you Capt_Fantastic.

But you're still an ass..

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Have you ever taken Ambien?


You wish you could forget it, because it's extremely...effective....

but it's cheap(I have insurance) and legal. It would be easy for me to pop one every night and spend the rest of my life in a legally induced high...but I don't do that. That's why I don't consider myself "stupid"

????Ambien just puts me to sleep?????

How does it make you high?

Then again, I tried cocaine once and all it did was numb my nose.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
????Ambien just puts me to sleep?????

How does it make you high?

Then again, I tried cocaine once and all it did was numb my nose.

I've heard other people say that. But, it makes me trip...

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
I've heard other people say that. But, it makes me trip...

You must be allergic to one or more of the drugs in that medicine.

I don't think recreational drug users are stupid at all {but of course, I am biased}... it's been pointed out quite a few times in this thread that a little individual responsibility goes a long way. Those who try the drug, become addicted to said drug and ruin their lives, and the lives of those around them, are stupid. Well, wrong choice of word actually... they're just selfish and careless.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
You must be allergic to one or more of the drugs in that medicine.

Cocaine affects people differently... it numbed your nose, as it did mine. But it also made me quite aggressive and extremely paranoid. I wouldn't say I was high exactly, but I wasn't quite of this world

Originally posted by Syren
Cocaine affects people differently... it numbed your nose, as it did mine. But it also made me quite aggressive and extremely paranoid. I wouldn't say I was high exactly, but I wasn't quite of this world

You are a waste of a good drug

I apologise... but hence the reason I stopped using it Wouldn't want to be considered selfish etc.

Originally posted by Syren
Cocaine affects people differently... it numbed your nose, as it did mine. But it also made me quite aggressive and extremely paranoid. I wouldn't say I was high exactly, but I wasn't quite of this world

I have a high resistance to drugs; it's just my chemistry.

I have done a lot of things in my life and hindsight has shown me that the times when I was the highest was times when I was not high. Like standing on a mountain top and looking out across the Earth; standing on stage, playing my guitar and hearing the murmur of over a thousand people and sitting in the dark inside a cave far below the ground and hearing the water drip.

Originally posted by Syren
Cocaine affects people differently... it numbed your nose, as it did mine. But it also made me quite aggressive and extremely paranoid. I wouldn't say I was high exactly, but I wasn't quite of this world

The effects of agressive and extremely paranoid have been attributed to women even if they dont take cocaine; this i say cause I feel i have experienced this. What I think happened is that they (feelings) have been excelled by the drug.

My best friend, just started taking drugs, sure i didn't like the thought, but ive gotten over it. She sure isn't stupid though, so no. People who take drugs just wanna get outta their skin for awhile.

Leave them be.

And no, i don't do drugs before u think it.

Yes, people who take Drugs for recreational reasons are for the most part stupid, They are looking for a cheap thrill as for the effects of mantianing drug use, we all know what they are if youv'e had more than a year 9 Phys ed class. The problem with drugs is that the effects are so extrem and immiediat that we cannot help but think that they and those that use are evil.

Well, someone's hogging up all the silly juice.

-AC

There you have it !

Dont take drugs cause its stupid and makes you so stupid that you cannot type elementary words correctly.

Originally posted by GCG
There you have it !

Dont take drugs cause its stupid and makes you so stupid that you cannot type elementary words correctly.
that or you're french

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I have a high resistance to drugs; it's just my chemistry.



I have a strange chemistry...sleeping pills keep my awake...I get lots of muscular energy..

Though it's funny to watch people who think there is a big big hole in the ground when theres not one....and they're bracing the car door when your driving.....Like What are you dong man????

Aren't you gonna try to miss the hole deb..????
But there is no hole, now youre freakin me out...stop it!!

Originally posted by debbiejo
I have a strange chemistry...sleeping pills keep my awake...I get lots of muscular energy..

Though it's funny to watch people who think there is a big big hole in the ground when theres not one....and they're bracing the car door when your driving.....Like What are you dong man????

Aren't you gonna try to miss the hole deb..????
But there is no hole, now youre freakin me out...stop it!!

OK, I give up. I tried to come up with some response to this post, but I'm speechless.

OK...then take 2 LSD and call me in the morning.....

Originally posted by debbiejo
OK...then take 2 LSD and call me in the morning.....

Two? LSD must be week were you come from, here two hits and you are the morning.

Originally posted by BackFire
Some are, the ones who allow themselves to get addicted and ruin their lives certainly are, IMO.

Also, I'd venture so far to say that taking illegal drugs is a blatantly stupid act, though not everyone who takes them is stupid themselves, maybe just naive or uneducated on the matter.
i agree totally with BF

I've seen people so high that they keep introducing themselves to me over and over and over and over.... Finally I start to change my name and tell them all kinds of things like I'm really a guy....or aliens are real or I'm a cop..OH...that get em....haha

Originally posted by debbiejo
I've seen people so high that they keep introducing themselves to me over and over and over and over.... Finally I start to change my name and tell them all kinds of things like I'm really a guy....Or that aliens are real, or I'm a cop....all kinds of stuff.

That's mean!

http://tastytronic.net/main/LSD-hotdog.jpg
Mmm... LSD.

The people who take drugs aren't necessarily stupid.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
http://tastytronic.net/main/LSD-hotdog.jpg
Mmm... LSD.

The people who take drugs aren't necessarily stupid.

When you see one of those floating in the sky, you know somethings up...hmmmmmm...getting hungry for psychedelic hot dogs now.

Though that one looks like it has an eye....I'm feeling paranoid now.l

thats no hot dog ; its a Dog facing this way !

Originally posted by GCG
thats no hot dog ; its a Dog facing this way ! Holy crap! It is a dog!

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Holy crap! It is a dog!



I'd rather see one of those then being scared that the floor is gonna swallow me up.....lol....And the radio is giving you secret messages....

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Holy crap! It is a dog!

IT HAS RABIES ! !

Originally posted by GCG
IT HAS RABIES ! !

Looked like a hot dog to me.

It could be a caterpillar......Look at its face....

I wish hot dogs looked like that!!!

Originally posted by debbiejo
It could be a caterpillar......Look at its face....

I wish hot dogs looked like that!!!

A real hot dog would be scarier.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
A real hot dog would be scarier.

You mean one that moves around and speaks?

Originally posted by debbiejo
You mean one that moves around and speaks?

No, one you get at the store, do you know what they are made of?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
No, one you get at the store, do you know what they are made of?

Their made of pig lips, cow stomach, and other various waste products.

People have a choice. When they choose to use drugs, then yes they are stupid. If they stay on that road, choice can eventually fade away and they develop addiction.

Originally posted by GCG
To answer the question of the topic at hand:

Its Stupid to allow a drug to determine the way you live.
Its Stupid to allow a substance to take hold of your finances.

Its not stupid to use drugs for recreational purposes.
Recreational purposes...

Lol.

Aside from alcohol, using any form of illegal susbstance is stupid.

Originally posted by GCG
The effects of agressive and extremely paranoid have been attributed to women even if they dont take cocaine; this i say cause I feel i have experienced this. What I think happened is that they (feelings) have been excelled by the drug.

Possibly, but i can vouch for few people that paranoia and aggressiveness are not one of the symptoms.

Originally posted by FeceMan
Recreational purposes...

Lol.

Aside from alcohol, using any form of illegal susbstance is stupid.
Errr...

Not that alcohol is an illegal substance. Drugs not issued by medical orders is more what I meant.

Recreational drug use is fine by me, as long as it doesn't adversely affect the rest of your life, i.e. work, relationships, wellbeing, etc.

Difficult to achieve, but not impossible.

I know a lot of drug users, a lot. None have suffered their lives being ruined etc.

-AC

A man walks into a bar and says to the bartender, "I bet you fifty dollars that I can bite my right eye." The bartender says, "Yeah, right! I've never seen anyone do that!" So the man takes out his glass eye and bites it.

The angry bartender pays the man his fifty dollars and the man walks away. He comes back half an hour later and says, "I bet you fifty dollars I can bite my left eye." Now the bartender becomes really skeptical. She says, "I just saw you walk in here -- you can't be blind!" So he takes out his fake teeth and bites his left eye. The bartender pays him his money and he walks away.


I'm sorry, I couldn't resist....

Originally posted by SpunkiE
People have a choice. When they choose to use drugs, then yes they are stupid. If they stay on that road, choice can eventually fade away and they develop addiction.

Originally posted by mechmoggy

Difficult to achieve, but not impossible.
Impossible enough to not be considered an option and anyone who does it should be arrested..

He was saying that it's possible to live without drugs ruining your life.

Not too sure you grasped that.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
He was saying that it's possible to live without drugs ruining your life.

Not too sure you grasped that.

-AC
And SpellJammer said the likelyhood is very small, so small the risk should not be taken legaly to accept it.

Not too sure you grasped that.

detective The clues lead to, that Spelljamma used reverse psychology

He was obviously being sarcastic then, wasn't he?

-AC

That too Watson

By the way AC, your new avatar/sig sucks.

Originally posted by GCG
The effects of agressive and extremely paranoid have been attributed to women even if they dont take cocaine; this i say cause I feel i have experienced this. What I think happened is that they (feelings) have been excelled by the drug.

Generalisation and not an appreciated one.

I am not usually aggressive or paranoid, hence the reason I was surprised when it affected me thus.

As for the feelings/emotions being exaggerated by the drug, that's the whole bloody point. That's what drugs do.

Originally posted by Spelljammer
By the way AC, your new avatar/sig sucks.

Oh shut up you cretin. Why do you insist on following me? I would have thought you'd have stopped by now after the revelation of you shamefully PMing people to help "destroy" me because you couldn't handle me on your own. I'm letting this be known purely because you troll me and a whole lot of others, so let's expose the hypocricy.

Syren, it's a bit deeper than that, depending on the drug, but you hit the nail on the head basically .

-AC

Originally posted by Syren
Generalisation and not an appreciated one.

I am not usually aggressive or paranoid, hence the reason I was surprised when it affected me thus.

As for the feelings/emotions being exaggerated by the drug, that's the whole bloody point. That's what drugs do.

Generalisation by you females !

You are paranoid when we vanish or dont respond for some time and aggressive when we show up

tsk tsk ; always thinking we be with some other woman. and by always i mean ALWAYS. How about that for generalisation ?

Originally posted by Inspectah Deck


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