Durge vs. General Grievous
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Twilight Janick
General Grievous is better than Durge, according to me.
jollyjim311
and according to how GG became the seperatist leader next to Dooku, by beating durge.
Se7in
Grievous beat, but didn't kill, Durge and Ventress at the same time.
SnakeEyes
It never really happened in a comic or book, but it was stated that it did happen. Although, I have something to point out. GG doesn't seem like the merciful type, so what I'm thinking is that the battle was a non-lethal one, and it was meant to be that way. So maybe if Durge and GG were trying to kill (instead of just defeat each other) than Durge has more of a chance. Maybe not though. GG could still win.
Twilight Janick
My vote was for the outcome of a deathmatch between the two.
darthsith19
Yeah, GG bea Durge and Asajj at the same time (which I fund dumb). Maybe neither of them are as strong as we think of GG can take out both of them at once.
Lord Simus
Or maybe GG is stronger than we think.
Council#13
no. this was before general grievous was crippled by mace windu.
Darth Faunus
Guys. For the last time. It was 'Star Wars Tales'. The same series where Han crashes into Earth, Chewie becomes 'Sasquatch' and Indiana Jones stumbles upon the wreck of the Falcon and Han's skeletal remains. You can't take it into any consideration in these threads. So Grievous never did beat Durge and Ventress simultaneously. Have a read on a realization of mine a couple of months back. A theory on the General's 'suckiness', and why it is not so.
"Well, according to Count Dooku in LOE, who is Grievous' saber mentor, the General is incredibly skilled. However, while scolding him for seeming imperfections in his fighting style, the Count states that Grievous' greatest weapon and ally in combat is the element of surprise, along with fear and confusion. Without it, he would be destroyed. Then, the Sith Lord proceeds to name a few Jedi who would destroy the General if he didn't use these to his advantage; Obi-Wan was one of these Jedi, along with Cin Drallig, Mace Windu, and Yoda. Anakin was not. This may merely be the result of Dooku's determination not to acknowledge Anakin's growing power, but whatever. Proceeding. . . .
So, on Hypori, when a Jedi was killed in a split second by a mechanical fiend dropping onto his skull, Masters Ki-Adi-Mundi and Shaak Ti were stunned and confused, along with the other Jedi. They had never seen or heard of such a creature, and as a result, were sufficiently astounded, enough to give the droid General a victory against five Jedi. The same thing happened in LOE (I know, I use it a lot) when the General moves to capture the Chancellor. He uses a dramatic entrance combined with half a dozen of his towering elites to strike fear into the hearts of everyone present, thus ensuring a victory born of deception.
Anyway, as you saw in ROTS, Grievous has not a single one of these advantages on his side. In fact, Obi-Wan has the advantage of surprise on his side, and although it does little to faze Grievous, it nullifies the General's advantages. It was only Grievous' arrogance and confidence that kept him in the duel. When he realized he had not a chance, and probably remembered Dooku's warning, he fled.
Hope that answers it sufficiently enough. Just a theory, but in my mind, a fitting one."
jollyjim311
hystericalHAHAHAHA, are ou serious!? I have never read it.
Twilight Janick
Grievous' confidence is electronic.
Deus Ex
Say what now? It's "electronic"?
He's a cyborg, not a robot.
Twilight Janick
But even as a cyborg, parts of his brain have been replaced with electronics.
Darth_Glentract
Prove up or shut up.
Deus Ex
Agreed. Preferably the latter.
Twilight Janick
Right. But still, he can't be considered a Sith.
Deus Ex
Everyone knew that. Are you captain Obvious?
Twilight Janick
Please tell me what other non-Force-sensitive persons can wield a lightsaber.
Deus Ex
Han Solo. Ulic Qel-Droma.
ReverendM@k@shi
Originally posted by Twilight Janick
Grievous' confidence is electronic.
Originally posted by Twilight Janick
But even as a cyborg, parts of his brain have been replaced with electronics.
Originally posted by Twilight Janick
Right. But still, he can't be considered a Sith.
1. NO
2. NO
3. HELL NO
Originally posted by Darth Faunus
Guys. For the last time. It was 'Star Wars Tales'. The same series where Han crashes into Earth, Chewie becomes 'Sasquatch' and Indiana Jones stumbles upon the wreck of the Falcon and Han's skeletal remains. You can't take it into any consideration in these threads. So Grievous never did beat Durge and Ventress simultaneously. Have a read on a realization of mine a couple of months back. A theory on the General's 'suckiness', and why it is not so.
"Well, according to Count Dooku in LOE, who is Grievous' saber mentor, the General is incredibly skilled. However, while scolding him for seeming imperfections in his fighting style, the Count states that Grievous' greatest weapon and ally in combat is the element of surprise, along with fear and confusion. Without it, he would be destroyed. Then, the Sith Lord proceeds to name a few Jedi who would destroy the General if he didn't use these to his advantage; Obi-Wan was one of these Jedi, along with Cin Drallig, Mace Windu, and Yoda. Anakin was not. This may merely be the result of Dooku's determination not to acknowledge Anakin's growing power, but whatever. Proceeding. . . .
So, on Hypori, when a Jedi was killed in a split second by a mechanical fiend dropping onto his skull, Masters Ki-Adi-Mundi and Shaak Ti were stunned and confused, along with the other Jedi. They had never seen or heard of such a creature, and as a result, were sufficiently astounded, enough to give the droid General a victory against five Jedi. The same thing happened in LOE (I know, I use it a lot) when the General moves to capture the Chancellor. He uses a dramatic entrance combined with half a dozen of his towering elites to strike fear into the hearts of everyone present, thus ensuring a victory born of deception.
Anyway, as you saw in ROTS, Grievous has not a single one of these advantages on his side. In fact, Obi-Wan has the advantage of surprise on his side, and although it does little to faze Grievous, it nullifies the General's advantages. It was only Grievous' arrogance and confidence that kept him in the duel. When he realized he had not a chance, and probably remembered Dooku's warning, he fled.
Hope that answers it sufficiently enough. Just a theory, but in my mind, a fitting one."
Now as good as that theory is it can't stand up to what is written on the actual site. Is LOE canon?
Deus Ex
Here? Yes. Welcome to the EU section.
ReverendM@k@shi
Originally posted by Deus Ex
Here? Yes. Welcome to the EU section.
Who wrote it?
Deus Ex
James Luceno, the guy who wrote the Visual Dictionary for ROTS.
Darth Faunus
Originally posted by ReverendM@k@shi
Now as good as that theory is it can't stand up to what is written on the actual site. Is LOE canon?
Which would be what, exactly?
And please. EU forum. What is LOE? Thought so.
aquaman
i care to disagree with this theory actually. Now don't switch yeh i dont disagree with you just your theory which by the way is lame.
Deus Ex
Another upstart from the UK.
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