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The arguement is that Thor beats Superman since he has the same levels of power and more abilities but also cause he's magic and that supes weakness. But Ultimate Thor is suppose to be more powerful then Thor but would he lose to Superman since his powers might not be magic based?

Simple question just give a straight answer

Ultimate Thor is weak. He lose to Colossus.

Originally posted by Dr.Fate
The arguement is that Thor beats Superman since he has the same levels of power and more abilities but also cause he's magic and that supes weakness. But Ultimate Thor is suppose to be more powerful then Thor but would he lose to Superman since his powers might not be magic based?

Simple question just give a straight answer


Ultimate Thor is wimp compared to 616 Thor. Superman would Kill Ultimate Thor in a second.

Ultimate Thor gets absolutely stomped into the ground.

hed better pray taht supes isnt angry

Ultimate Thor isn't actually magic.
He lost his powers when Quicksilver removed his belt.
His hammer, his body armor, look nowhere similar to something an ancient norse god should wear.
I think that the supposed "Loki" and the "Thor" of Ultimate Universe obtained their powers from some project created to obtain superhumans.
Do you remembers the "gods" of the Marve Universe 2099?
Thos who fought against 2099 versions of Spidey, Punisher, X-Men and Doom?
Thor of the UU may just be something like that.

Superman would kick Ultimate Thor's ass on the basis of his showings so far..... Ultimate Thor is no match for Supes

if it all changes when this crazy/not crazy thing gets resolved it may be different.... but so far it doesn't look good for him

Originally posted by Dr.Fate
Ultimate Thor is suppose to be more powerful then Thor

says who?.... he certainly hasn't shown to be that tough so far

Superman has far greater powers then Thor such as Strength and Speed. Thor doesnt have magic he has god powers, god powers arent magic theyre super natural powers. Wizard uses magic, God uses super natural powers, theres a difference.

Originally posted by JediMasterLuke5
Superman has far greater powers then Thor such as Strength and Speed. Thor doesnt have magic he has god powers, god powers arent magic theyre super natural powers. Wizard uses magic, God uses super natural powers, theres a difference. Not this Thor.

Originally posted by Juntai
Not this Thor.
Thor has Divine powers, not magic.

Originally posted by JediMasterLuke5
Thor has Divine powers, not magic. Not this Thor.

He's a God, Not a wizard or a sorcerer. God's have divine powers and supernatural powers. Wizards have magic.

Originally posted by JediMasterLuke5
He's a God, Not a wizard or a sorcerer. God's have divine powers and supernatural powers. Wizards have magic. Not this Thor.

Originally posted by JediMasterLuke5
He's a God, Not a wizard or a sorcerer. God's have divine powers and supernatural powers. Wizards have magic.

God's use magic too... just look at Loki and the Enchantress

Originally posted by Scoobless
God's use magic too... just look at Loki and the Enchantress
He's a jerk off on "thorbuster" punch fanboy Scoob.
He don't know an inch about Thor's powers and abilities.
It has been stated hundred times Thor's power are magical and Mjolnir itself is powered from magical and cosmical energies

http://www.comicboards.com/thor/view.php?trd=040224214306&q=oliv

But the thread is about Ultimate Thor.

i know... but the guy said regular Thor and the other gods don't use magic

Originally posted by Scoobless
i know... but the guy said regular Thor and the other gods don't use magic Oh he's a dummy then.

Originally posted by JediMasterLuke5
Superman has far greater powers then Thor such as Strength and Speed. Thor doesnt have magic he has god powers, god powers arent magic theyre super natural powers. Wizard uses magic, God uses super natural powers, theres a difference.

Dude Thor does have magical powers.

the whole thread is flawed...Thor doesnt beat Supes cause he is magic, He beats him because overall he is more powerful, plain and simple....magic is just a bonus

This. Is. Ult-Tim-Mate. Thor. I am speaking in single syllables for those posters who HAVEN'T caught on yet. O-Kay?
Ultimate Thor is far below 616 Thor, and seems all science-based. Superman wins this matchup handily.

I'd also like to state that Supermans not WEAK to magic in the sense that he's weak to kryptonite. He just has no defenses against it.

A magical blast would hurt just as much to you or me as it would Superman. Well, assuming you have the same build of Superman.

Look in the DC encyclopedia posting Draco69 keeps putting up, and it says in detail why magic is a problem for Superman. Because of the scientific base of his powers - constantly absorbing sunlight through his bio-aura, which helps keep him from harm - the chaotic nature of magic interferes with his aura's bodily process. That's why toe-to-toe, he's had trouble against Shazam/Captain Marvel as well.