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Who wins?

WW.

The battle of classic characters known for their skimpiest costumes in comic book history...

WW

no love for Namor huh?

Wait for Darkcrawler...

Nah, Kahn. WW just has too much going on for her for Namor to pose a threat.

Well change the scenario lets put the 2 scantilly clad swim suit wearing hero's into the ocean then what I ask.......then what

If Namor has on a suit or spell that keeps him wet all the time, then it could really go either way imo.

In the water: Namor wins. Out of water: WW wins. Next.

I'm pretty sure WW would win in water too.

WW wins in and out of water Namor's no where near her level.

Originally posted by Marvel=DC
WW wins in and out of water Namor's no where near her level.

Well that wouldnt be an accurate statement to make. WW is top 3 in DC as to where Namor is more of a secone teir character. Wonder Woman has more feats of strength given shes way more of a main character than Namor. Dont get me wrong, im not trying to take anything away from Wonder Woman. However its been said that Namor is in the same power league as Hulk, Thor and Hercules. Hes actually beat Hulk, held an advantage over Hercules, and took a blow from Thors hammer without even being ko'd. And Those 3 characters can also beat WW on any given day. Yet Namor has either beat or stalemated. To say Namor is no where near her level isnt a fair statement to make.

<<WW wins in and out of water Namor's no where near her level.>>

wet he approaches her level. she's still stronger imo and wins this everytime. she's as strong (or stronger) than those jrod named, but she's also much faster and can fly. i great feat for namor was ripping apart doom's vessel. a great feat for ww is helping move the moon, helping hoist the spectre and catching one of heaven's falling chariots.

i really don't see her having much trouble here.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Well that wouldnt be an accurate statement to make. WW is top 3 in DC as to where Namor is more of a secone teir character. Wonder Woman has more feats of strength given shes way more of a main character than Namor. Dont get me wrong, im not trying to take anything away from Wonder Woman. However its been said that Namor is in the same power league as Hulk, Thor and Hercules. Hes actually beat Hulk, held an advantage over Hercules, and took a blow from Thors hammer without even being ko'd. And Those 3 characters can also beat WW on any given day. Yet Namor has either beat or stalemated. To say Namor is no where near her level isnt a fair statement to make.


Wonder Woman would beat both Hulk and Hercules and would stalemate Thor better than Namor could. Also she can definitely take a hit from Thors hammer and not be knocked unconscious.

Originally posted by leonidas
wet he approaches her level. she's still stronger imo and wins this everytime. she's as strong (or stronger) than those jrod named, but she's also much faster and can fly. i great feat for namor was ripping apart doom's vessel. a great feat for ww is helping move the moon, helping hoist the spectre and catching one of heaven's falling chariots.

i really don't see her having much trouble here.

Also a great feat for Namor was pounding the ground and making an earthquake. Also Namor picking up an oil tanker that weighed over 100,000 tons. She helped move the moon with 2 other people. One of which is stronger than her and the other of whom can amp his strength to match her or even surpass. Plus How much does the moon weigh?

That just brings to the point i made earlier, shes DC's top 3, while Namor is clearly second teir at Marvel. Of course shed have more amazing feats.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Also a great feat for Namor was pounding the ground and making an earthquake. Also Namor picking up an oil tanker that weighed over 100,000 tons. She helped move the moon with 2 other people. One of which is stronger than her and the other of whom can amp his strength to match her or even surpass. Plus How much does the moon weigh?

That just brings to the point i made earlier, shes DC's top 3, while Namor is clearly second teir at Marvel. Of course shed have more amazing feats.

She also held up Asmodels heavenly "chariot" and survived a faster than light punch to earth from the Sun by Supes.

She's way out of Namors class.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
She also held up Asmodels heavenly "chariot" and survived a faster than light punch to earth from the Sun by Supes.

She's way out of Namors class.

How much does the chariot weigh? And one again ill say, ofcourse she has more feats because of her place in the DC ranks.

Its been said that Thor lifted the migrad serpent(sp?), yet Namors been said to be in the same strength league as he.

Plus with all of Hulks amazing feats, Namor still managed to beat him. Twice at that.

<<Also a great feat for Namor was pounding the ground and making an earthquake. Also Namor picking up an oil tanker that weighed over 100,000 tons. She helped move the moon with 2 other people. One of which is stronger than her and the other of whom can amp his strength to match her or even surpass. Plus How much does the moon weigh?

That just brings to the point i made earlier, shes DC's top 3, while Namor is clearly second teir at Marvel. Of course shed have more amazing feats.>>

namor's been around nearly as long as she has, (longer than VERY nearly any other hero in marvel!) and has had a LOT of time and opportunity to perform 'feats'. i like namor, and his 'tier' has nothing to do with why he'd lose -- i don't think he's as strong as she is, simple as that. namor has had his hands FULL with ben grim on too many occasions for me to think he can match diana. abomination gave him everything he could handle AND they were underwater. i said he approaches her level, but she's still stronger imo, plus of course she has her lasso which i've not even bothered to bring up.

oh and the moon is somewhere in the neighbourhood of 8 x 10 to the 22nd power kg -- according to my physics text (never fails to amaze me how easy it is to find obscure facts . . .) no matter HOW you divy it up -- that's heavy. REALLLLYYYYYYYYY heavy.

It's actually closer to 7x10^22 kg. Of course one has to take into account the brunt of the weight would have likely been borne by Superman, and arguably a greater proportion of the weight than hers might have been borne by MM, but it's still a massive feat.

WW wins. But I'd say Namor gives her a better fight than people are giving him credit for.

Originally posted by jrodslam
How much does the chariot weigh? And one again ill say, ofcourse she has more feats because of her place in the DC ranks.

Its been said that Thor lifted the migrad serpent(sp?), yet Namors been said to be in the same strength league as he.

Plus with all of Hulks amazing feats, Namor still managed to beat him. Twice at that.

I'll leave it for you to judge buddy. What's even more amazing is that that thing destroys anything it touches automatically. It shows amazing resilience on her part.

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This could go on for a long time if it's in or above water, but eventually I think Diana would get the advantage. Namor gets a little prideful in his fights, and won't dodge as much as he should, to prove how great he is! (And he is cool.) He would probably think he could break from the golden lasso, like the Crimson Bands he once broke, but probably Diana hogties him down once and for all.

The only reason he broke the Crimson Bands was because Dr. Strange wasn't consciously keeping the spell intact. Which enable Namor to break it. No way in hell can Namor break the Lasso.

For the last time, the only beings who can break it would be a high-tier cosmic being.

Originally posted by Draco69
The only reason he broke the Crimson Bands was because Dr. Strange wasn't consciously keeping the spell intact. Which enable Namor to break it. No way in hell can Namor break the Lasso.

For the last time, the only beings who can break it would be a high-tier cosmic being.

Unless it's in the writer's current interest that they could. Writers like to bend the rules, don't they?
Gives us stuff to talk about!

Sure. They could. Only to be bashed into obilvion by fans. Look at Jeph Loeb...

Yes...Batman's God-Kick to Captain Marvel in Superman/Batman. What was he thinking?
He will be doing who when he comes to Marvel?

No idea. God have mercy on who ever he gets placed on.

Well, I still liked Hush. Despite that incredulous resolution with the Riddler!

Riddler my ass. The ONLY reason I remotely liked Hush was because of Jim Lee's incredible art.

Jeph Loeb is doing The Ultimates 3. Say goodbye to the quality of that book.

Oh GOOOOOOD!! NOOOOOOO!!

Exactly what I said.

For the love of...

Couldn't they have put him on an irrelevant book like Elektra or Excalibur or something?

I was thinking more along the lines of those Marvel Adventures books they put out for kids.

Can't say I'm surprised he got a big title though. Marvel made a huge deal of signing him.

*sigh* Oh well. I can see it now. The Wasp defeating Galactus with bio-stinger in the eye.

Pretty much. He said he wants to make it more like the 616 Avengers with a lot more superheroics so get ready for a lot of stupidity and bad characterizations.

I dont think this battle has been done yet. The battle will start on Long Beach.

Who takes it?

Wonder Woman.

It has been done before.

Wonder Woman.

If he can get her underwater, then he might have a better chance.

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Originally posted by DarkCrawler
It has been done before.

Wonder Woman.

If he can get her underwater, then he might have a better chance.

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Ditto.

I still see him losing underwater but, it would be a better fight.

This is a good one. I don't want to get too into this but after a good but somewhat onesided fight WW wins. Namor is a badass and if the fight is in the ocean he has a much better chance and probably wins more times than not.

Originally posted by meep-meep
This is a good one. I don't want to get too into this but after a good but somewhat onesided fight WW wins. Namor is a badass and if the fight is in the ocean he has a much better chance and probably wins more times than not.

I agree.

He's easily dodging the blows of Thor and actually holding his hands in this pic:

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Underwater, WW is fu<ked more times than not.

Not really. You see she can still beat the crap outta him.

Underwater, Namor just has a MUCH better chance, but still not enough.

Wonder Woman 8/10.

This fight is absolutely no contest. WW, 10/10.

Originally posted by Superherovandal
Not really. You see she can still beat the crap outta him.

Underwater? Where he heals nearly instantly?

Wonder woman has a penis.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Also a great feat for Namor was pounding the ground and making an earthquake. Also Namor picking up an oil tanker that weighed over 100,000 tons. You have scans of these two feats jrod? Those are pretty impressive.

I still think WW wins.

"she's as strong (or stronger) than those jrod named, but she's also much faster and can fly"

Shes not stronger than any of the three mentioned. Not enough feats on her own compared to them on a higher order.


"She also held up Asmodels heavenly "chariot" and survived a faster than light punch to earth from the Sun by Supes."

Alone?

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Doesnt seem like it. Thats the problem with WW. Her biggest feats are always with help and in some cases they still dont cut it.

And she travelled a FTL distance after the punch to the Earth or was punched at FTL reaction time? There is a difference.

As for this fight, WW takes the majority. Underwater Namor tho has the strenght to win, depends if he uses the enviorment together with it as he did with Hulk before.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
You have scans of these two feats jrod? Those are pretty impressive.

I still think WW wins.


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Looks like he pushed it. Heck, I could push a schoolbus but I sure couldn't lift it.

Yep........ Wonder Woman wins !!!

Dude, he broke Supez rib !!!! And she has the Medusa mask !!!!

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Looks like he pushed it. Heck, I could push a schoolbus but I sure couldn't lift it.

"I can only hold this for a second."

He had also lifted it from the ground...

But Wonder Woman would still win.

"Looks like he pushed it. Heck, I could push a schoolbus but I sure couldn't lift it. "

If you had the strenght to actually push a schoobus wouldnt you have enough to lift it? Regardless on how long you do it.

Its the same object, your just going against more restraining forces if you lift it. Thats where Stamina plays a major part.

I could be wrong tho Just the way i see it.

I still think it may go different ways. DC is written on a much higher power scale than Marvel, but Wonder Woman's strength is equal to that of Hercules and Namor is equal to Hercules, so......

If we go by feats, ofcourse WW has the edge because of her being top 3 in DC while Namor is only 2nd tier.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
"I can only hold this for a second."

He had also lifted it from the ground...
How do you lift something off the ground by pushing it to the side?

Originally posted by olympian
If you had the strenght to actually push a schoobus wouldnt you have enough to lift it? Regardless on how long you do it.

Its the same object, your just going against more restraining forces if you lift it. Thats where Stamina plays a major part.

I could be wrong tho Just the way i see it.
Ever push a car that's out of gas down the street? Can you lift that car?

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
How do you lift something off the ground by pushing it to the side?



How it is off the ground if he has not lifted it?

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
How it is off the ground if he has not lifted it?
Maybe it's the end that's not stuck on the reef. Or he just pushed that part off the reef.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Maybe it's the end that's not stuck on the reef. Or he just pushed that part off the reef.

But is there holding in pushing?

Shouldn't he say "I can only keep this up for a moment", or "I can only push it for a moment"?

Wonder Woman would most likely win......

unless Namor got her all wet.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
But is there holding in pushing?

Shouldn't he say "I can only keep this up for a moment", or "I can only push it for a moment"?
No, he should say "I can only apply lateral pressure to this for a moment!"

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
No, he should say "I can only apply lateral pressure to this for a moment!"



Well, if you want, I can do this your way too...

Maybe he lifted it off and is now pushing it as it doesn't fall on the ground instantly...

All I am saying is that, if he says that he is holding something, it doesn't seem to apply that he is pushing it...

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Maybe he lifted it off and is now pushing it as it doesn't fall on the ground instantly...
It was a boat wasn't it? If it immediately began sinking again then that's some crappy boat design. And if anything, you should blame the failure of an artist for not managing to draw the before, during, and after in one panel. What a cop-out.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
It was a boat wasn't it? If it immediately began sinking again then that's some crappy boat design. And if anything, you should blame the failure of an artist for not managing to draw the before, during, and after in one panel. What a cop-out.


A tanker, and did I say that it should have began to sink instantly?

Misread the second line.

Think if Namor put his imperious moves on her, it would work better then they did on Sue Storm?

"Marry me, or I will invade the surface world and kill everything you love!"

If she is the agressive type, it just might...

"Ever push a car that's out of gas down the street? Can you lift that car?"

While true in real life terms im talking comic book terms. Where pll who push tanks usually lift them and so on. Its what happens in a common fashion.

Namor definately wins under water.

WW would still be quite fast and agile underwater. It's definitely not the same as fighting Hulk as underwater.

What kind of advantages does she have over him?

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
It has been done before.

Wonder Woman.

If he can get her underwater, then he might have a better chance.

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Completely agree.

On land I say WW 10/10 and underwater 8/10.

ok im a big namar/aquaman fan but i say nomar if underwater and wonder women above water

nomar is bullet proof and super strong(now if were talkin aquaman strangth equls supermans that is if hes under water)preaty much matched in strength,stamina and endurance it depends on the place namar matches wonder womens powers but underwater hes much faster so he gets more momenttum not say he breaths under water and she dont and makes him more likley to win
above water he still matches wonder women but she has the advantage cause nomar can only last a certin amount of time above water

Since this is at Long Beach, Namor has a chance to win. I'd put it at 5/10 for each, whether they duke it out on land or ocean.

well gota stick wit wat i said earlyer on land wonder women 9/10
and under water wonder women 1/10

WW wins way more than 1/10 underwater. Namor can own Hulk and Thor underwater in a fist fight because they aren't as fast or agile as he is. That wouldn't apply to Diana. I'm not sure she'd take the majority but it sure isn't some 9/10 curbstomp.

^^^ Totally agree. As always, speed kills.

well the only person that matches namar speed under water are aquaman cause thats their element she may be better out of the water but it his world under if anything under he will use his telpath powers to over load her mind and then have a whale or two drag her to the bottom of the water and then he can knock her out while shes distracted then she drowns cause i dont know wat happed to wonder women but shes not un killable and knowing namar hes gonna get mad and try and kill her

Originally posted by He-guy88
well the only person that matches namar speed under water are aquaman cause thats their element she may be better out of the water but it his world.
That's not true at all. The top tier flying bricks like Superman and Majestic would still be faster because of the way their flight abilities work regardless of them being out their element. WW is no Superman or Majestic but she's never had too much trouble keeping up with people like that in fights with the exception of Zoom but Namor is far from being Zoom level.

Besides, I don't see whats stopping WW from removing Namor and herself from the water. If Thing can do it so can she.

well this is just by comperison but aquaman and namor are preaty much the same and on smallville aquaman was hit by clark as hard as clark could and it dident even phase him and he was 10 times faster under the water and since namor can swim as fast as aquaman then their it is and sayin clark dont have full speed or strength is crap cause in fac he does

so ww no prob

I dont agree that Namor can take WW 9/10 times in water, but id say he can beat her 7 or 8 out of 10 times.

On land, id give WW 8/10 victories. Simply due to Namor dehydrating.

well id go with that

If Namor played his cards right, the fight would only be aggressive foreplay. naughty

WW wins.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
WW wins.

Agreed. She's taken a page from Flash/Superman's book as well.

Vibrating invisible (probably somewhat intagible as well)

Namor can't compete with that.

I only saw WW run to the point where she's invisible once. That's not a very big deal. It's like mach 1 IIRC. Vibrating intangible, OTOH, would be a major feat.

WW is far above Namor in Speed and Skill and Strength. NOw added to the fact that WW's only real weakness is not in Namor's powerset and he looses. She could if she wanted, deflect every single punch he threw. And if he manages to get some in, he's not hitting as hard as Superman and we know she can take light speed lvl superman punches.Also given the fact that she has Superman lvl resistance when it comes to blunt force trauma pretty much nixes the idea of Namor winning the majority. Diana has been shown in Water to be as agile and fast as she is in air. And The water may increase Namor's strength to her lvls, but he still wouldn't be as fast as her or as skilled. I'd give namor 3/10 in water only becuz he could last long enough until her air ran out.

She's above him in speed, skill and evenish in strength.

Originally posted by UniOmni
She's above him in speed, skill and evenish in strength. WW is considered by DC to be stronger than Hercules. Marvel Hercules has shown to be stronger than Namor is even in water. And I personaly consider WW stronger than Marvels Hercules. Basically imo WW is still stronger than Namor in or out of the water.

I'd say that Namor can take a majority on water, but gets beaten bad on land.

Anyway, after the fight is over, Namor and Wonder Woman make sweet love.