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hmmmm sho would win

Onslaught

Do you know nothing about onslaught? i mean, just look at him.

http://www.strategyplanet.com/thesims/pictures/reqs/on.jpg
http://www.strategyplanet.com/thesims/pictures/reqs/ONS.jpg
http://www.strategyplanet.com/thesims/pictures/reqs/onslaught.jpg

SUPERHUMAN POWERS: Onslaught possessed the combined mutant abilities of his progenitors Professor X and Magneto. He could induce illusions, temporary mental or physical paralysis, loss of specific memories, or total amnesia; project mind-numbing mental bolts; and sense the presence of mutants within a small radius. Also, Onslaught was able to shape and manipulate magnetic fields, both natural and artificial. Using his powers to augment his strength, he could lift up to 100 tons. Other abilities included telekinesis and astral projection.

dude take it easy onslaught got defeated by the hulk i wanted to see how strong he is when facing superman

no he did not get defeated by the hulk. by the way it was combind effort of almost all of amrvels heros to get hulk in there . also that version and power of hulk was far stronger then superman in prue strength. superman will get raped.

Originally posted by Spawnrules
dude take it easy onslaught got defeated by the hulk i wanted to see how strong he is when facing superman

Hulk beat him? when? do you have scans of it?

he talken about when hulk cracked his armor

im curious, is his armor metal?

no it made from his mental powers

didn't professor x switch off the hulks human side so he was all HULk. The rest of the heroes then stood well back while Hulk went bugsh*t on Onslaught. This cracked the armour but banner na dhulk were spearated by the trauma. I dont think superman could do that to the Hulk

that hulk was mindless hulk, the strongest form of hulk with truly infinite strength, and it took most of marvel earth to get him there, and even then all that he did was destroy onslaught's armour, after which onslaught became an energy being even stronger than he was in his physical form, also after rippin the armour, the explosion seperated mindless hulk from banner!

Onslaught shuts down Superman's mind, end of fight.

Originally posted by BlaqChaos
Onslaught shuts down Superman's mind, end of fight. Except that . .Superman's Kryptonian mind would take too long to conquer. Despero couldn't do it.. it took Maxwell Lord YEARS to break down his defenses enough.

Superman's mind is not immune to psionic attacks. Onslaught blasts a mental bolt, and he goes way down

Originally posted by DrDoom101
Superman's mind is not immune to psionic attacks. Onslaught blasts a mental bolt, and he goes way down Superman would have already split his armor by this time.
He couldn't neccisarily beat the energy inside, but he could definately easily do what hulk did, and rip his armor apart.

Also, show me a psionic mental bolt downing Superman. Because there's many comics of telepaths complaining about Superman's advanced mind.

I remember those comic covers.

I like the dc versus marvel #1 comic covers too.

Anyway, Onslaught easy.
Only hulk could even get close enough to fight him and beat him.
Every other superbeing was so weak in comparison that they couldn't even get through onslaught's mentally project storm to have a chance at fighting him.



You'd be better off making this a versus Hulk forum.

Superman is cool, but power wise Hulk is unlimited.

Hulk is a bigger threat to onslaught, unless superman is fighting him on the sun.

Originally posted by jplatinum
but power wise Hulk is unlimited.


I dont think so, far from that. There is so many beings that could tear Onslaught armor and Superman is one of them. But I agree, I think Onslaught would win, maybe even easily.

Onslaught is the pimp with the unbreakable grip mess with him and get pimp slapped quick.

Originally posted by Juntai
Superman would have already split his armor by this time.
He couldn't neccisarily beat the energy inside, but he could definately easily do what hulk did, and rip his armor apart.

Also, show me a psionic mental bolt downing Superman. Because there's many comics of telepaths complaining about Superman's advanced mind.

Actually too many DC telepaths really need to practice more. If he does get his armor off, then it's a battle between Superman and pure Psionic Energy. Superman still goes down.

Originally posted by Adam Warlock
Actually too many DC telepaths really need to practice more. If he does get his armor off, it a battle between Superman and pure Psionic Energy. Superman still goes down. Well, Superman can't really fight pure energy, I don't think. But he could easily get his armor broke....
Of course, Superman could always light speed to the Fortress and back, where he surely has something that could do the trick. lol.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onslaught_%28comics%29


Superman gets owned quick.
Even if he can crack Onslaught's armor, that just makes him MORE powerful. And nobody has stated how Superman could even hurt him.

Originally posted by TheKahn
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onslaught_%28comics%29


Superman gets owned quick.
Even if he can crack Onslaught's armor, that just makes him MORE powerful. And nobody has stated how Superman could even hurt him.

Superman could give Onslaught a "super speech" that could bore OS to death lol.

Originally posted by Mainstream
Superman could give Onslaught a "super speech" that could bore OS to death lol.

Or use his heat vision to make Onslaught uncomforable warm?

lol this is a terrible match up, first off superman has been mind controlled by the like of posion ivy, onslaught would mind wipe him so bad. The only reason hulk was able to stand up to onslaught is because his mind is so split and messed up its about impossible to mess with it.

Is this reality warping Onslaught?

Originally posted by severance
didn't professor x switch off the hulks human side so he was all HULk. The rest of the heroes then stood well back while Hulk went bugsh*t on Onslaught. This cracked the armour but banner na dhulk were spearated by the trauma. I dont think superman could do that to the Hulk
Jean did it I think. And yes, Hulk ruined Onslaught's armor with his anger but it only made him stronger.

Originally posted by Juntai
Well, Superman can't really fight pure energy, I don't think. But he could easily get his armor broke....
Of course, Superman could always light speed to the Fortress and back, where he surely has something that could do the trick. lol.
Easily?

That would mean you are comparing Superman's strength to A hulk mentally helped to reach that level?

there is a reason why Hulk was the one that broke it. because he has no limits in terms of Physical power.

and he didn't do it himself ( he had mental help) building his anger

Assuming Superman CAN indeed break Onslaught's armor.....then what does he do? Also, is this xavier + magneto OS or xavier + magneto + nate grey OS or xavier + magneto + nate grey + franklin richards second sun making OS?

~wickerman~

Originally posted by superman302
lol this is a terrible match up, first off superman has been mind controlled by the like of posion ivy, onslaught would mind wipe him so bad. The only reason hulk was able to stand up to onslaught is because his mind is so split and messed up its about impossible to mess with it. Poison ivy's mind control isnt psionic, it's herbalic.. is that a word? metahumans with mental power have great difficulty attacking Superman mentally.

Originally posted by Wickerman
Assuming Superman CAN indeed break Onslaught's armor.....then what does he do? Also, is this xavier + magneto OS or xavier + magneto + nate grey OS or xavier + magneto + nate grey + franklin richards second sun making OS?

~wickerman~ That's what I'm saying, he'd have no way to deal with the energy, save running to the fortress of solitude or something.

Originally posted by Wickerman
Assuming Superman CAN indeed break Onslaught's armor.....then what does he do? Also, is this xavier + magneto OS or xavier + magneto + nate grey OS or xavier + magneto + nate grey + franklin richards second sun making OS?

~wickerman~


wet his tights

Originally posted by Juntai
Poison ivy's mind control isnt psionic, it's herbalic.. is that a word? metahumans with mental power have great difficulty attacking Superman mentally.


but Onslaught is more than just a metahuman...he's a legend lol

Originally posted by Mainstream
but Onslaught is more than just a metahuman...he's a legend lol lmao

Originally posted by TheKahn
wet his tights

so THAT's why Booster Gold has that outfit It doesn't show when he wets himself

~wickerman~

unslaught>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>thor
super man is barly better then thor so logically superman gets killed wick wicked easiliy.

Originally posted by Wickerman
so THAT's why Booster Gold has that outfit It doesn't show when he wets himself

~wickerman~


Which happens quite often

Onslaught will mind rape him in sec, Onslaught cen increase his mentals powers making them even stronger. Superman desn't have a chance in hell, Onslaught will own him in every department.

Onslaugt wins 10/10 in his sleep.

Torquasm Vo all the way for Supes once he gets through the armor.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Torquasm Vo all the way for Supes once he gets through the armor. lmfao.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Torquasm Vo all the way for Supes once he gets through the armor.

Apparently i'm impervious to subtlety tonight. Please explain what this means

~wickerman~

Originally posted by Wickerman
Apparently i'm impervious to subtlety tonight. Please explain what this means

~wickerman~

What is Torquasm-Vo?

Torquasm-Vo is an ancient Kryptonian mental/fighting discipline that allows a master to allow their consciousness to rise into a higher state and fight opponents on a mental plane. Superman is currently attempting to master this technique.

He's currently beaten:

Dominus
Eradicator
Satannus

with this "mental" fighting ability. I wish the writers would go into more detail with it though. At least it's obvious it isn't just against other kryptonians he can use this against.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
What is Torquasm-Vo?

Torquasm-Vo is an ancient Kryptonian mental/fighting discipline that allows a master to allow their consciousness to rise into a higher state and fight opponents on a mental plane. Superman is currently attempting to master this technique.

He's currently beaten:

Dominus
Eradicator
Satannus

with this "mental" fighting ability. I wish the writers would go into more detail with it though. At least it's obvious it isn't just against other kryptonians he can use this against.

This would be like a psychic battle, or like a battle in "astral" form? As in the consciousness takes an astral form (just like his body) in the astral plane and beats on people?

(thanks for the info )

~wickerman~

Originally posted by Wickerman
Apparently i'm impervious to subtlety tonight. Please explain what this means

~wickerman~ Kryptonians have metnals powers as well.. Torqasm Vo, Torqasm Rao, and I think there's one or two more.. as well they are particularly immune to mental attacks and dominate powers, it took Maxwell Lord years to break down Supes like he did, assuming that he started back when he was part of the JLA and by years, I'm talking that was like... 1992 or something.

Originally posted by Juntai
Kryptonians have metnals powers as well.. Torqasm Vo, Torqasm Rao, and I think there's one or two more.. as well they are particularly immune to mental attacks and dominate powers, it took Maxwell Lord years to break down Supes like he did, assuming that he started back when he was part of the JLA and by years, I'm talking that was like... 1992 or something.

thanks for the info also

~wickerman~

He can break the armour !!!!!!!!!!1

He cannot win the fight !!!!!!!

Originally posted by Wickerman
This would be like a psychic battle, or like a battle in "astral" form? As in the consciousness takes an astral form (just like his body) in the astral plane and beats on people?

(thanks for the info )

~wickerman~

Not a problem. People forget about this ability since he seldom uses it.
Here is a scan of him fighting Dominus in the astral plane. Supes has gotten much better with it since then...
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/avalonofthewind/mindrealm.jpg

Originally posted by Juntai
Poison ivy's mind control isnt psionic, it's herbalic.. is that a word? metahumans with mental power have great difficulty attacking Superman mentally.

Dude you do realize that the leader of check mate mind controlled superman also, im sure that a being with the combined powers of xavier and nathan could also.

Yeah, Superman's willpower is nearly infinite^^^ It's the strongest in the universe.

Also.

-sigh-

Torqasm Vo isn't an option unless Onslaught allows Superman to connect to his mind and then battle there.

Superman can't force Torqasm Vo, it has to be willingly accepted by the opponent.

Originally posted by superman302
Dude you do realize that the leader of check mate mind controlled superman also, im sure that a being with the combined powers of xavier and nathan could also. It only took Max 15 real life years to do it too.

Grodd gave Superman a mental whammy before.

Originally posted by long pig
Grodd gave Superman a mental whammy before. Recently? As in, after OWAW?
Or are you talking about "faster than a speeding bullet" "Able to lift large houses" Superman of the early 90's?

Manchester Black gaved Supes a stroke, Onslaught can do the same.

Originally posted by K3VIL
Manchester Black gaved Supes a stroke, Onslaught can do the same. Manchester also one of the most powerful psychics in the world. Superman also against The Elite and Manchester during their Live Television Battle..started moving too fast for Manchester mental abilities to even register/effect or read him. He could do the same to Onslaught.

Onslaught will mind f**k him to death.

onlsluaght too easily

Onslaught in a SpiteStomp

Onslaught for the mindrape

Strange...
I mean, Doctor Polaris has one-shotted Supes on the Pole.
Magneto > Polaris
Onslaught > Magneto, due to Nate Grey/franklin Richards energies backing him up
Why do you really think Supes will get the chance to lay a finger on Onslaught's armor?

When did Polaris one shot Supes?

Onslaught stomps.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Onslaught will mind f**k him to death.

dude that sums it up perfectly

Originally posted by the Darkone
Onslaught will mind f**k him to death.

Onslaughts telepathic powers don't work on an aliens. This was shown during the fantastic four tie in where Lyla the skrull was uneffected and Onslaught was forced to physically engage her.

Originally posted by Galvaclaw
Onslaughts telepathic powers don't work on an aliens. This was shown during the fantastic four tie in where Lyla the skrull was uneffected and Onslaught was forced to physically engage her.

Or it could be that they just don't work on Skrulls. Shapeshifters have commonly shown telepathic resistance. Such as Mystique.

Edit.

It was spesifically stated it was aliens not her Skrull heritage. Besides Superman has better mental resistance feats than any skrull.

Originally posted by Galvaclaw
It was spesifically stated it was aliens not her Skrull heritage. Besides Superman has better mental resistance feats than any skrull.

I don't remember it saying that spacifically it was because she was an alien. As I said Mystique is also highly resistant to telepathy because of her shapshifting nature.

Has Superman ever been controlled mentally? Didn't Dominus mess with his mind?

This has a good list of his powers:
http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Onslaught_(Psychic_Entity)