Corporations are psychopaths...

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Ya Krunk'd Floo
I watched a fascinating documentary last night, 'The Corporation'. It attempts to define what a corporation is and what its affect on the world is. The opening premise regards the question: 'If a corporation is a person, then what kind of person is it?' The answer is quite astonishing, considering the magnitude of this 'person's' power...

The following snipets are taken from the documentary's website. I've taken the liberty to make them more concise for those with A.D.D., but you can find all the info you want at http://www.thecorporation.com/index.php ...

SYNOPSIS

THE CORPORATION explores the nature and spectacular rise of the dominant institution of our time. Taking its legal status as a "person" to its logical conclusion, the film puts the corporation on the psychiatrist's couch to ask "What kind of person is it?" Provoking, witty, sweepingly informative, The Corporation includes forty interviews with corporate insiders and critics - including Milton Friedman, Noam Chomsky, Naomi Klein, and Michael Moore - plus true confessions, case studies and strategies for change.

A LEGAL 'PERSON'

In the mid-1800s the corporation emerged as a legal "person." Imbued with a "personality" of pure self-interest, the next 100 years saw the corporation's rise to dominance. The corporation created unprecedented wealth. But at what cost? The remorseless rationale of "externalities"-as Milton Friedman explains: the unintended consequences of a transaction between two parties on a third-is responsible for countless cases of illness, death, poverty, pollution, exploitation and lies.

THE PATHOLOGY OF COMMERCE

The operational principles of the corporation give it a highly anti-social "personality": It is self-interested, inherently amoral, callous and deceitful; it breaches social and legal standards to get its way; it does not suffer from guilt, yet it can mimic the human qualities of empathy, caring and altruism.

MINDSET

The people who work for corporations may be good people, upstanding citizens in their communities - but none of that matters when they enter the corporation's world. As Sam Gibara, Former CEO and Chairman of Goodyear Tire, explains, "If you really had a free hand, if you really did what you wanted to do that suited your personal thoughts and your personal priorities, you'd act differently."

MONSTROUS OBLIGATIONS

The Corporation exists to create wealth, and even world disasters can be profit centers. Carlton Brown, a commodities trader, recounts with unabashed honesty the mindset of gold traders while the twin towers crushed their occupants. The first thing that came to their minds, he tells us, was: "How much is gold up?"

PLANET INC.

You'd think that things like disasters, or the purity of childhood, or even milk, let alone water or air, would be sacred. But no. Corporations have no built-in limits on what, who, or how much they can exploit for profit. In the fifteenth century, the enclosure movement began to put fences around public grazing lands so that they might be privately owned and exploited. Today, every molecule on the planet is up for grabs. In a bid to own it all, corporations are patenting animals, plants, even your DNA.

DEMOCRACY LTD.

Democracy is a value that the corporation just doesn't understand. In fact, corporations have often tried to undo democracy if it is an obstacle to their single-minded drive for profit. From a 1934 business-backed plot to install a military dictator in the White House (undone by the integrity of one U.S. Marine Corps General, Smedley Darlington Butler) to present-day law-drafting, corporations have bought military might, political muscle and public opinion.

And corporations do not hesitate to take advantage of democracy's absence either. One of the most shocking stories of the twentieth century is Edwin Black's recounting IBM's strategic alliance with Nazi Germany-one that began in 1933 in the first weeks that Hitler came to power and continued well into World War II.

FISSURES

The corporation may be trying to render governments impotent, but since the landmark WTO protest in Seattle, a rising wave of networked individuals and groups have decided to make their voices heard. Movements to challenge the very foundations of the corporation are afoot: The corporate charter revocation movement tried to bring down oil giant Unocal; a groundbreaking ballot initiative in Arcata, California, put the corporate agenda in the public spotlight in a series of town hall meetings; in Bolivia, the population fought and won a battle against a huge transnational corporation brought in by their government to privatize the water system; in India nearly 99% of the basmati patent of RiceTek was overturned; and W. R. Grace and the U.S. government's patent on Neem was revoked.

Back to me...The documentary is filled with inteliigent insights from brains like Chomsky and contains fascinating insights from people like Sir Mark Moody-Stuart and Ray Anderson, CEO of Interface - the latter comes across as an extremely concientous leader of business. It also contains brutal honesty from Carlton Brown, a commodities trader, who paints a stark picture of the greed that is destroying our world.

I suggest you check it out, then come back and hit this shit with some comments. Wurd.

Spelljammer
Capitalism just got a whole lot cooler. \m/ evil face \m/

Ya Krunk'd Floo
It would seem impossible, but you just got a whole lot stupidererererererer.

BackFire
Let's avoid the dimwitted insults, thanks.

Ya Krunk'd Floo
It's OK, I wasn't really offended by his inanity.

So, has anyone else seen 'The Corporation'?

BackFire
Apparantly not.

botankus
yawn

lil bitchiness
Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
I watched a fascinating documentary last night, 'The Corporation'. It attempts to define what a corporation is and what its affect on the world is. The opening premise regards the question: 'If a corporation is a person, then what kind of person is it?' The answer is quite astonishing, considering the magnitude of this 'person's' power...

The following snipets are taken from the documentary's website. I've taken the liberty to make them more concise for those with A.D.D., but you can find all the info you want at http://www.thecorporation.com/index.php ...

SYNOPSIS

THE CORPORATION explores the nature and spectacular rise of the dominant institution of our time. Taking its legal status as a "person" to its logical conclusion, the film puts the corporation on the psychiatrist's couch to ask "What kind of person is it?" Provoking, witty, sweepingly informative, The Corporation includes forty interviews with corporate insiders and critics - including Milton Friedman, Noam Chomsky, Naomi Klein, and Michael Moore - plus true confessions, case studies and strategies for change.

A LEGAL 'PERSON'

In the mid-1800s the corporation emerged as a legal "person." Imbued with a "personality" of pure self-interest, the next 100 years saw the corporation's rise to dominance. The corporation created unprecedented wealth. But at what cost? The remorseless rationale of "externalities"-as Milton Friedman explains: the unintended consequences of a transaction between two parties on a third-is responsible for countless cases of illness, death, poverty, pollution, exploitation and lies.

THE PATHOLOGY OF COMMERCE

The operational principles of the corporation give it a highly anti-social "personality": It is self-interested, inherently amoral, callous and deceitful; it breaches social and legal standards to get its way; it does not suffer from guilt, yet it can mimic the human qualities of empathy, caring and altruism.

MINDSET

The people who work for corporations may be good people, upstanding citizens in their communities - but none of that matters when they enter the corporation's world. As Sam Gibara, Former CEO and Chairman of Goodyear Tire, explains, "If you really had a free hand, if you really did what you wanted to do that suited your personal thoughts and your personal priorities, you'd act differently."

MONSTROUS OBLIGATIONS

The Corporation exists to create wealth, and even world disasters can be profit centers. Carlton Brown, a commodities trader, recounts with unabashed honesty the mindset of gold traders while the twin towers crushed their occupants. The first thing that came to their minds, he tells us, was: "How much is gold up?"

PLANET INC.

You'd think that things like disasters, or the purity of childhood, or even milk, let alone water or air, would be sacred. But no. Corporations have no built-in limits on what, who, or how much they can exploit for profit. In the fifteenth century, the enclosure movement began to put fences around public grazing lands so that they might be privately owned and exploited. Today, every molecule on the planet is up for grabs. In a bid to own it all, corporations are patenting animals, plants, even your DNA.

DEMOCRACY LTD.

Democracy is a value that the corporation just doesn't understand. In fact, corporations have often tried to undo democracy if it is an obstacle to their single-minded drive for profit. From a 1934 business-backed plot to install a military dictator in the White House (undone by the integrity of one U.S. Marine Corps General, Smedley Darlington Butler) to present-day law-drafting, corporations have bought military might, political muscle and public opinion.

And corporations do not hesitate to take advantage of democracy's absence either. One of the most shocking stories of the twentieth century is Edwin Black's recounting IBM's strategic alliance with Nazi Germany-one that began in 1933 in the first weeks that Hitler came to power and continued well into World War II.

FISSURES

The corporation may be trying to render governments impotent, but since the landmark WTO protest in Seattle, a rising wave of networked individuals and groups have decided to make their voices heard. Movements to challenge the very foundations of the corporation are afoot: The corporate charter revocation movement tried to bring down oil giant Unocal; a groundbreaking ballot initiative in Arcata, California, put the corporate agenda in the public spotlight in a series of town hall meetings; in Bolivia, the population fought and won a battle against a huge transnational corporation brought in by their government to privatize the water system; in India nearly 99% of the basmati patent of RiceTek was overturned; and W. R. Grace and the U.S. government's patent on Neem was revoked.

Back to me...The documentary is filled with inteliigent insights from brains like Chomsky and contains fascinating insights from people like Sir Mark Moody-Stuart and Ray Anderson, CEO of Interface - the latter comes across as an extremely concientous leader of business. It also contains brutal honesty from Carlton Brown, a commodities trader, who paints a stark picture of the greed that is destroying our world.

I suggest you check it out, then come back and hit this shit with some comments. Wurd.

Interesting.

Im doing my dissertation on The Elite Deviance and White Collar Crime. How ultra fabulous of you to post this. Its like this mental link we have going or something...

Anyway...

Noam Chomsky is one of my favurite Americans of all time. I read so many of his books and his ruthless criticisms are like noones ive read before. Awesome. I wish I had seen the movie if it included an interview with him. That would have been very interesting.

This documentary will probably be in the library, so I will definitively look for it.

I think one of the most interesting things I find about people who are so eager to condem individuals who rob and kill someone, do not have clue how much corporate crime is done every single day.

Ford easily killed hundreds of people, Nike easily exploited slave labour, many others easily polluted neighbourhoods and drinking water, from which hundreds of people died - and they knew it and said nothing. Corporate homicide for profit.

Ya Krunk'd Floo
Woah! Seems like Bird Flu isn't the only infectious disesase doing the rounds at the moment...First Spieljarhead, now (la)botan(y)kus...Watch out, World!

botankus
Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
Woah! Seems like Bird Flu isn't the only infectious disesase doing the rounds at the moment...First Spieljarhead, now (la)botan(y)kus...Watch out, World!

I'm sorry, I'm really tired plus anti-union.

Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
(la)botan(y)kus

WTF????

Ya Krunk'd Floo
That's cool an' all...I 'spelt' 'lobotomy' incorrectly on purpose. Why? Irony...

Moving jonathanswiftly on...or should that be 'moving on swiftly, Jonathan'? Anyway, as I was saying, moving swiftly jonathan on...Yes, lil' b! YES! YES YES! YESSSSSSSSSSSSS!

I also read more than a little of ol' Noam during my studying days. 'Language acquisition and psychology' was the order of my relation to him, and a profound it was, too. Indeed, he is a very smart, smart man. There were numerous episodes involving Chomsky and I was struck once again about how everything he uttered was concise, well-thought and pertinent to the discussion.

As for corporations, it is indeed sad. Too many people seems to accept that a corporation will exploit and plunder resources with little thought about the environmental and social damage it causes. If a corporation is a person, then it can also be considered a rapist; it uses, abuses and refuses to re-use(s) a resource once a cheaper one presents itself. Nike, GM et al are perfectly happy to proclaim that they are providing employment opportunities to people in the Third World, but once the area they are working in begins to develop, they up-and-leave as the society begins to demand more rational wages.The sad thing is that people accept these practices by supporting such brands.

A corporation may get fined a million dollars or more for deviant practices, but when this is compared to the billions they make in revenue, it is but a piss in the bath.

lil bitchiness
When it comes to killers, rapists, kidnappers, paedophiles, gangsters and thieves, everyone has plenty of philosophy to sell to everyone here about death penalty and justice.

When it comes to Corporate crime, which does precisely all those things multiplied by few hundred thousand, noone has any comments.

How typical.

Alpha Centauri
All this philosophising is making me thirsty.

Anybody wanna go to Starbucks for a coffee?

-AC

Ya Krunk'd Floo
Perhaps if I inserted some mysterious conspiracy involving dragon heads and witches' eyes, plus a couple of examples of CEOs on drug-induced necrophilic rampages, it would get the kids interested...

It's a shame because the doc investigates the same type of thing Moore does, but without the 'look-at-me' sensationalism...

Alpha Centauri
I was making a joke, if you were referring to me.

-AC

Ya Krunk'd Floo
No, I saw your post after I had posted mine. I was referring to most of the cretins who think they think around here...

botankus
I wouldn't disagree with your argument, but I think labor unions are pieces of sh*t as well. I guess everybody loses so maybe we should all drown ourselves so we never have to spend another dollar as a consumer for the rest of our lives.

soleran30
Originally posted by botankus
I wouldn't disagree with your argument, but I think labor unions are pieces of sh*t as well. I guess everybody loses so maybe we should all drown ourselves so we never have to spend another dollar as a consumer for the rest of our lives.


LOL pricelesssmile Anyway during the Worldcom scam I was an employee of Woldcom and it was insane! Whats more is that Berny Ebbers said something to the effect in the aftermath that he wasn't sorry and if he could do it all over again he would.........Off with his head rolling on floor laughing

Victor Von Doom
It's interesting because while a company is legally a person, this is only to symbolically represent the people within- it is a macrocosmic person.

So it appears many employees are expletives.

I like Chomsky, but his linguistic works are a lot more valuable than his political polemic, I feel.

Capt_Fantastic
Corporations are essential to the American way of life. Their existance is the result of the capitolistic sensability. To remove them, is to remove democracy.


However, their existance is not a needed part of human existance. By all means, remove them....

But it MUST come in conjunction with the removal of all modern democratic senability. Once the corporate dogs are removed, so too, must come the removal of our engrained need for their presence in our lives. Halliburton is allowed to control our state...so, our state must be allowed to survive without Halliburton. While this isn't an unreasonable assumption when based on the de-construction of a single conglomerate...the de-construction of all such organizations must occur at the same time. Why rob Peter to pay Paul?

Diversity is the only key to true self-exploration and change. Let the chips fall where they may....but why play the game at all, if the outcome is expected?

botankus
Good explanation, Cap'n.

debbiejo
The one thing about corporations is that they keep eating each other up..One devours the other.......In the end, maybe there will only be one.

eat

Ya Krunk'd Floo
Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Corporations are essential to the American way of life. Their existance is the result of the capitolistic sensability. To remove them, is to remove democracy.

I think the problem is the classification of an entity as a person unrestrained by the 'moral' behaviour that governs our lives. When this type of attitude is coupled with extreme power, the result is overwhelming.

The rest of what you posted is very interesting, but ultimately it is a flight of fancy in an autocratic corporate world.

Ya Krunk'd Floo
In regards to corporations being a necessarry evil to support democracy, I'd like to supply you with some level-headed sensationalism (oxymoron intended...):

Opel - aka GM Motors - colluded with Nazi Germany before AND during the war. As did Ford...

Coca Cola invented Orange Fanta to supply to Germany, so it could continue making profits while millions of people were killed.

IBM supplied the 'punch-card system' - which was specialised to suit each customer - to Nazi Germany, so they could keep track of all the Jews and homosexuals they were killing. I'm not making this up.

More recently, we have the example of the Bechtel Corporation gaining control of the water supply of Bolivia. This included them being able to make it illegal for the residents to collect rain water.

So, it would seem that fascism and corporations are better bed-fellows

soleran30
Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
In regards to corporations being a necessarry evil to support democracy...I'd like to supply you with some level-headed sensationalism (oxymoron intended...):

Opel - aka GM Motors - colluded with Nazi Germany before AND during the war. As did Ford...

Coca Cola invented Orange Fanta to supply sell to Germany, so it could continue making profits while millions of people were killed.

IBM supplied the 'punch-card system' - which was specialised to suit each customer - to Nazi Germany, so they could keep track of all the Jews and homosexuals they were killing. I'm not making this up.

More recently, we have the example of the Bechtel Corporation gaining control of the water supply of Bolivia. This included them being able to make it illegal for the residents to collect rain water.

So, it would seem that fascism and corporations are better bed-fellows

Yup good illustrations and I love how everyone loves to berate. Yet corporations help establish modern Japan and brought alot of other things that are positive.

Bardock42
I don't really see how one can call corporations "evil"......I mean I find that just as bad a generalization as saying all "humans" are "evil". Corporations are not evil by themself if at all (pretending here that there actually is something caleed "evil"wink the people who lead it are "evil".

As for the examples...what aboot this on...Bayer a German Corporation researched Aspirin (wel it was kind of known before but anyways) and made it available for the broad public.....

Now can one just say because of that exaple that all corporations are "good"?
Another problem I see is that if something we consider "evil" happens we blame the corporations while if something "good" happens we praise the people working for the corporations.....

Capt_Fantastic
Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
The rest of what you posted is very interesting, but ultimately it is a flight of fancy in an autocratic corporate world.


That was my point.

Darth Jello
I'm surprised they got a blue collar mass murderer like Milton Friedman to do the movie in the first place. The guy is one of the biggest war criminals currently allowed to roam the streets.

Spelljammer
Originally posted by debbiejo
The one thing about corporations is that they keep eating each other up..One devours the other.......In the end, maybe there will only be one.

eat
If there was only one then democracy as we know it would end. Along with capitalism..

Capt_Fantastic
Originally posted by Spelljammer
If there was only one then democracy as we know it would end. Along with capitalism..


HEY!...get your own point of view!

Poser!

lil bitchiness
Noone is proposing to get rid of the corporations - but to control them better. Poluting water, and air, selling unsafe products is exploitation and murder in the name of profit.

Spelljammer
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Noone is proposing to get rid of the corporations - but to control them better. Poluting water, and air, selling unsafe products is exploitation and murder in the name of profit.
That would be good if our goverment actually cared about the enviorment. But to the U.S. that's just another excuse for a bribe to look the other way. The only people that are going to suffer from this "strcter penalty on evil coporations" fiasco is small buisnesses. Mom and pop buisnesses you try to credit.. So not only do they have finanicial problems to deal with, but have the goverment riding down thier ass at the same time, where as those "evil coporations" can afford to write a big check so the goverment leaves them the hell alone.. That's how the real world works..

Frankly this wouldn't be the case if more coporations dealt buisness like Wal-Mart. Wal-Mart has to be near the largest example of free-trade and what power it can give a buisness then anyone.. But Wal-Mart has a strict code of conduct it follows to the T, so you never hear complaints about them. Well, exsept from moochers trying to get attention and a profit. But that happens everywhere..

lil bitchiness
Actually, the people who will benefit on the stricter control on the corporate business are ordinary people.

They should be the priority - but then of course we have the Crimes of the Poerful, such as the president and people in power generally. Who will control those people?

Ya Krunk'd Floo
In the end, the people do have the power to over-throw...

"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."

- J.F.K.

...Not every apple is a bad apple.

Ya Krunk'd Floo
So, has anyone - apart from me - actually seen this documentary? It gives an excellent insight into the mind of a CEO and the 'person' it is part of. If you're interested in corporate responsibility - or lack thereof - then I'd recommend it.

The Corporation Website

lil bitchiness
Yes.

Its been on More4 here, and I watched it, seeing how my dissertation is all about Corporate (I)Responsibility. Its a great documentary, and Im definitively getting it on DVD.

Did you know that Ford's car faults caused somewhere between 500 and 900 deaths?

Alpha Centauri
Don't you mean you're DEFINITELY getting it on DVD, Milla?

More 4 as in the Sky Digital channel? Or am I thinking of something else?

-AC

Ya Krunk'd Floo
Originally posted by Bardock42
I don't really see how one can call corporations "evil"......I mean I find that just as bad a generalization as saying all "humans" are "evil". Corporations are not evil by themself if at all (pretending here that there actually is something caleed "evil"wink the people who lead it are "evil".

As for the examples...what aboot this on...Bayer a German Corporation researched Aspirin (wel it was kind of known before but anyways) and made it available for the broad public.....

Now can one just say because of that exaple that all corporations are "good"?
Another problem I see is that if something we consider "evil" happens we blame the corporations while if something "good" happens we praise the people working for the corporations.....

I think the relatively few examples of 'good' corporate behaviour serve only as exceptions that prove the rule that the majority of them are humanity-raping psychopaths.

Ya Krunk'd Floo
I've just finished watching 'Enron: The Smartest Guys In The Room'. It's not as entertaining as 'The Corporation', but it does provide a perfect real-life example of a corporation acting like a psychopath.

The California energy crisis situation alone marks them down as bad, bad people. Then, when you couple that with Lay's close relationship with ol' Dubya - Lay was mooted for the position of Secretary of Energy(!) - and his meetings with Arnie prior to his election to office, you've got yourself a huge, stinking example of the shit at the heart of the ol' US of A.

lil bitchiness
you know what is interesting.

USA has that infamous ''three strikes and you're out'' thing. So when economically disadvantaged, usually black people get into trouble 3 times they are behind the bars forever.

But corporations can kill thousands of people, and they can do it 17 times over and all they will get a slap on the wrist and a few million to pay....

Hmmm...crime in the streets cannot compare to the crime in the suits.

(ha? ha? did you like that? Crime in the streets vs crime in the suits! Clever bitchiness! boo-ya! K, im done)

Soleran
Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
I've just finished watching 'Enron: The Smartest Guys In The Room'. It's not as entertaining as 'The Corporation', but it does provide a perfect real-life example of a corporation acting like a psychopath.

The California energy crisis situation alone marks them down as bad, bad people. Then, when you couple that with Lay's close relationship with ol' Dubya - Lay was mooted for the position of Secretary of Energy(!) - and his meetings with Arnie prior to his election to office, you've got yourself a huge, stinking example of the shit at the heart of the ol' US of A.


I agree and just imagine some of the dirt you could uncover elsewhere if these types of documentaries were aloud to be created and released.

Ya Krunk'd Floo
Originally posted by Soleran
I agree and just imagine some of the dirt you could uncover elsewhere if these types of documentaries were aloud to be created and released.

Yeah, that'd be great! However, I only see one nation proclaiming to the rest of the world that theirs is the way, the truth and lie...I mean 'life'.

BackFire
The...the corperations! They're...they're being all corperationy!

Milkie
I pledge defiance

to the flag

of the united states

of Corporations

and to the dictatorship

for which it stands

one Nation under Money,

divisible, with liberty

and justice

for the wealthy

Capt_Fantastic
Originally posted by BackFire
The...the corperations! They're...they're being all corperationy!

Very Stephen Colbert of you.

Ya Krunk'd Floo
Originally posted by BackFire
The...the corperations! They're...they're being all corperationy!

It's sad that that is a pertinent indictment of their nature.

BackFire
Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Very Stephen Colbert of you.

Actually, I believe it's a quote from Team America mocking the demonization of corperations.

Ya Krunk'd Floo
Innately, it's also a demonization of corporations.

BackFire
Well, in the film it was said by someone who was a complete idiot. Which is more or less what Trey and Matt seem to believe make up the bulk people hating corperations. I can't help but agree with them.

Ya Krunk'd Floo
Admittedly, I am an idiot, but those South Park dudes attack anything and everything. Indeed, they've attacked corporate America before, so I hardly think they're staunch supporters of the likes of Enron, et al.

BackFire
True, they do attack everything, but usually their attacks are based on something, and this is where a lot of people seem to falter in their hatred of corperations, which is made glaringly clear by the joke I quoted. A lot of people seem to hate them and not even know why, listing vague, unknowingly silly reasons all while wearing their GAP T-Shirt and Levis jeans, and driving home in their Ford or Toyota automobile to their Panasonic TV and Dell computer powered by a Microsoft Operating System.

I'm sure some people have good reasons for genuinely disliking corperations, most just follow the fad and list reasons that are as stupid as the statement I quoted from Team America.

And younobestupid, I wasn't referring to you, since you seem to have knowledge about the subject, just saying people in general who shit on corperations inbetween sips of their Starbucks Coffee are stupid.

Ya Krunk'd Floo
Yeah, true dat. The main target of Stone and Parker are people who take themselves too seriously, which is nice.

It's actually pretty tough to live without owning/supporting any corporations, but this doesn't mean that people shouldn't attack the ones that are found out to be rogues. I try to steer clear of some of the big baddies, but I'm in no way totally independent. It's the nature of modern life.

You're wrong about one thing though, I am stupido. It's fun being an idiot.

Capt_Fantastic
Originally posted by BackFire
Actually, I believe it's a quote from Team America mocking the demonization of corperations.

Oh. I feel asleep during that movie. Maybe I missed that part.

Adam_PoE
Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Oh. I feel asleep during that movie. Maybe I missed that part.

You fell asleep during that movie with me. big grin

Ya Krunk'd Floo
On your shoulder? Sniff, that's...just...too...beautiful.

Soleran
As long as the time management suit as well as recycling burgers goes into effect I feel the movie has had a positive impact and will soon increase time efficiency as well as ending world hunger.

Capt_Fantastic
Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
On your shoulder? Sniff, that's...just...too...beautiful.

No, I'm pretty sure it was one of those rubber necked turkey bob situations.

Actually, I think he woke me up.

Ya Krunk'd Floo
Originally posted by Soleran
As long as the time management suit as well as recycling burgers goes into effect I feel the movie has had a positive impact and will soon increase time efficiency as well as ending world hunger.

Puntuation and some grammatical editing would probably help get your meaning across.

Soleran
Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
Puntuation and some grammatical editing would probably help get your meaning across.


laughing Thanks Victor

Jenova
I used to think socialism was bad (in theory it's good, it's just human nature that limits it), but when I read your message, I was struck by lightning. I knew corporations had a whacked-out mindset, but you managed to remind all of us just truly how horrid something that is part of everyday life can be...

Ya Krunk'd Floo
Originally posted by Soleran
laughing Thanks Victor

You're welcome...Suzie?

Adam_PoE
Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
No, I'm pretty sure it was one of those rubber necked turkey bob situations.

Actually, I think he woke me up.

Actually, you were sleeping so unobtrusively, that I probably would not have noticed had I not glanced over at you.

And I did wake you up, albeit unintentionally. I leaned over and kissed you on the cheek.

Can I get a "collective aww?"

big grin

Great Vengeance
Ofcourse corporations are psychopaths, if they were a person this is who they would be:





http://www.lightsabre.co.uk/moviemart/Darth_Sidious.jpg

Capt_Fantastic
Originally posted by Great Vengeance
Ofcourse corporations are psychopaths, if they were a person this is who they would be:





http://www.lightsabre.co.uk/moviemart/Darth_Sidious.jpg

Why use a fictional character, when Dick Cheney is more appropriate?

Great Vengeance
Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Why use a fictional character, when Dick Cheney is more appropriate?

They are the same person, silly.

Wonderer
Yup, the corporate business entity is both good and bad - good=give people a means of earning a living, but bad in the sense that it (and any other 'owner' entity makes claim to a piece of land when the Earth doesn't belong to anyone.

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