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I've seen many threads. One of which is the Galactic Empire vs the Covenant. I am an avid Halo fan, and a reader of the three excellent novels based on the game. Now, the Empire vs the Covenant thread gave me an idea. What if the evil, powerful, and vile manipulating lords of either regime were to duel?

The High Prophet of Truth and Emperor Palpatine possess many similar qualities. Both are liars, deceivers, cruel, and clever. And both have a tendancy to use and then dispose of their right-hand-men. But who would win should these lords of evil decide to do battle?

You decide.

The battle takes place in the Inner Sanctum of the Hierarchs on High Charity - the Covenant stronghold. Neither combatant is allowed any sort of support. Truth has his chair and technology. Sidious has his saber and his Force powers.

I remember that battle. Phew. It has been awhile though... something like six months. I'm going to say that DE Sids would mess this thing up, but ROTS Sids? Not sure.

Indeed. The further I think about it, the Prophet of Mercy was not a danger up close. But when he teleported, and put distance in between himself and the Master Chief, he was uniquely deadly. That laser burst is far deadlier than a Hunter's fuel rod cannon, which is also known for near instant-kills.

Truth was the ringleader and true villain of the story. So who knows what modifications his throne might have had, compared to the other Prophets.

DE Sidious wins of course. ROTS probably wins.

I rather enjoyed the Arbiter storyline myself. I don't care for the fandom of Master Chief. When I played Halo 2 online I was almost always an elite, even though it made for a hard match every time (Being a big target)

I even had a white and blue color scheme. I enjoy playing competition from a disadvantage.

And also on topic, I think Sidious could be put to the test with the laser and some distance; remember Yoda nearly caught him with that pod.

He would. I do not know if Truth's energy shield for his throne would deflect Palpatine's Force Lightning. But his lightsaber would get through. However, I do not know if Truth would allow Sidious to get close.

The Inner Sanctum isn't immensely large, but it has enough space that Truth can teleport and spread out. In close combat, he does not have the edge. But in long-ranged combat, he does. Sidious has nothing to throw and no real environment to manipulate.

Indeed, a few strikes of Truth's fuel rod cannon, and Sidious will be dead. But if he is quick, on guard, and resourceful, I believe he could defeat the Prophet.

Halo Books Goood! LOL wtf

And 'Dark Empire' Palpatine is much more powerful than his Revenge of The Sith counterpart. But 'that' version of Palpatine isn't to be included in this battle. It's ROTS Palpatine vs H2 Prophet of Truth.

Sidious could throw debris at Truth from all angles to distract him and then come into melee to decapitate him. Or his lightning would probably screw up that floaty chair.

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
DE Sidious wins of course. ROTS probably wins.

whos more powerful, DE or ROTS?

DE by far.

ROTS Sidious isn't particularly powerful when compared to the vast majority of his predeccessors. However, in Dark Empire, he has a host of new powers. His nuclear ones also were augmented. The greatest of his new abilities is the Force Storm, which is an assault so powerful, it can either destroy entire fleets - or teleport people from one place to another. Even across the void of space.

As DE Sidious, he is 'immensely' powerful.

Him and Nihilus border on cheap for use in these threads by virtue of their powers.

I don't consider DE Sids cheap his Force Storm hurts him more than it helps him.

It's an instant KO though. Also, no one's ever bothered to say it if involved prep or what.

Well it takes a huge amount of concentration, wasn't it covered in the DE Sidious vs. Exar Kun thread?

I don't recall. If it takes more than a bit though, it'd get his ass beat.

I think a huge amount of concentration takes more than a bit of time.

With fanboys, you never know.

But thats a different spectrum entirely.

Definately.

That genital irritation ad has been following me over five pages now. Should I be worried?

No, but then again...

*Checks*

Nah.

Well, from the comics, it required a lot of concentration. As soon as Palpatine could clear his mind to summon it, it was cast instantly. He cast it in close quarters, so it is probable that he would not be consumed in the explosion unless it was 'turned on him'.

However, Leia and Luke managed to disrupt the process by attacking him, causing the Force Storm to rebound on Palpatine.

So Kun would win if he quickly killed Palpatine, which he probably is capable of doing. Otherwise, Kun would die.

That's what I had assumed. And Kun is notoriously wicked fast.

Yeah.

Palpatine's Force Storm requires a lot of concentration. And when you're being assaulted by a powerful opponent, Palpatine's instant-kill power is not of much use. But if there was a lot of distance between them, OR if Palpatine knew he was coming, he would stand a very excellent chance.

But other than that, Kun would win.

Assuming Kun couldn't likewise use Sith magicks against him. The guy did freeze an entire crowd.

If the freeze literally put him in stasis - there'd be no problem. If it does not freeze the mind, or anything, then it would do no good. But Kun *is* very fast, so he would win.

This thread was poorly thought over. Truth is a weakling, as is his whole race, the prophets. His only defence is that chair he sits in. Any of you who played the game Halo 2 would know that it is compleatly pathetic.

Originally posted by Darth Magnevus
This thread was poorly thought over. Truth is a weakling, as is his whole race, the prophets. His only defence is that chair he sits in. Any of you who played the game Halo 2 would know that it is compleatly pathetic.

And the last good thread you made, God?

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Originally posted by Darth Magnevus
This thread was poorly thought over. Truth is a weakling, as is his whole race, the prophets. His only defence is that chair he sits in. Any of you who played the game Halo 2 would know that it is compleatly pathetic.

1. The Prophet you mentioned was Mercy, who was perhaps the very weakest of the High Prophets.

2. The 'chair' in question is also brought into the battle. We know for sure that it at 'least' has the defensive capabilities Mercy's had. Such as a teleportation ability, a nearly impenetrable shield, and a laser burst that is twice that of a Hunter's fuel rod cannon.

yes, but Sidius was inexplainably stronger than Truth. I have read the books and the only way Truth would be strong enough to beat Sidius is if he had a small army of Elietes, or if he was in the Covinent refit and repair station, the name of which I cant remember.

Erm... Truth is 'only' mentioned in 'First Strike', where he is glimpsed at in the last chapter. He has three-hundred Elite Honorguards, but as we have seen, many tyrants in science-fiction have bodyguards. And, like Palpatine, he may not need them...

... So no. There is NO way to tell whether or not Truth required them or not. We know he is cowardly as Palpatine, so perhaps he simply wanted not to take a chance.

hmm, that is true. Palpatine would probalby get overconfident as well. Also, I am wondering. Specify the Truth we are talking about, the Truth from befor Halo was destroyed or after?

The High Prophet of Truth. One of the three Covenant Hierarchs. He was the leader, and one of the beings responsible for the Covenant Civil War. He planned out the destruction of the Elites. Truth is the ONLY surviving Prophet at the end of Halo 2. He escapes in a Forerunner flagship, and takes the Covenant fleet to Earth, where he plans on activating the Ark and destroying the galaxy.