Little to discuss in the GDF for Europeans

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Whurlysplat
Discuss.

Deano
euro want some tea old chap?

Whurlysplat
Originally posted by Deano
euro want some tea old chap?

indeed I would..... may I have a digestive with that smile Its so nice talking to someone civilised and not from the damn colonies.......

Bardock42
The Continent FTW....

GCG
What is there to discuss ? Our Europen Constituation that was turned down ?

Clovie
Originally posted by GCG
What is there to discuss ? Our Europen Constituation that was turned down ? I've made a thread about it! eek!







we had elections today erm very exciting no expression

Whurlysplat
Originally posted by Clovie
I've made a thread about it! eek!







we had elections today erm very exciting no expression

GCG
Originally posted by Clovie
I've made a thread about it! eek!







we had elections today erm very exciting no expression

was it elections or a referendum ?

debbiejo
Originally posted by Deano
euro want some tea old chap?


TEA???? hysterical....crumpets too???....




usaflag

Clovie
Originally posted by GCG
was it elections or a referendum ? second (and last, hopefully) rund of president election

GCG
Would you like Turkey to access as a mamber into the EU ?

Clovie
on the logical point it make no sense
it is European Union and most of the Turkey is placed in Asia erm
and dunno.

GCG
*looks at clovie*

... erm .... this thread sucks without having a relevant topic to discuss........

Bardock42
Originally posted by Whurlysplat


Doctoring Quotes...hmm...interesting..smile

Whurlysplat
Originally posted by Bardock42
Doctoring Quotes...hmm...interesting..smile

Where?

debbiejo
Originally posted by GCG
*looks at clovie*

... erm .... this thread sucks without having a relevant topic to discuss........

Well, theres always the Royalty.....Or the History, Kings, Queens, Legends, Crusades.... big grin

Deano
lets talk about tony blairs ears
personally i think they are too big
discuss!

GCG
Originally posted by debbiejo
Well, theres always the Royalty.....Or the History, Kings, Queens, Legends, Crusades.... big grin

Royalty doesnt count anymore in the world of today cause it was formed by Wars.

amity75
*drinks a cup of Earl Grey prepared for him by a small asian boy*. Yes, they ARE a trifle big but not nearly as horrific as his wifes gnashers!.

debbiejo
Originally posted by Deano
lets talk about tony blairs ears
personally i think they are too big
discuss!

Don't forget Prince Charles.... big grin

GCG
i dont think i am an expert of horses

Whurlysplat
Originally posted by amity75
*drinks a cup of Earl Grey prepared for him by a small asian boy*. Yes, they ARE a trifle big but not nearly as horrific as his wifes gnashers!.

laughing out loud

Deano
Originally posted by debbiejo
Don't forget Prince Charles.... big grin

dont get me started on that git

debbiejo
Well there's always the artful sport of Crockett...Or is that cricket...

Victor Von Doom
It seems there is little to discuss for anyone here anymore, because every thread degenerates into something resembling this one.

Deano
thats life

Whurlysplat
Originally posted by Deano
dont get me started on that git


I was Diana confused I am the one who should be angry

Whurlysplat
Originally posted by debbiejo
Well there's always the artful sport of Crockett...Or is that cricket...

Its better than Baseball

and more violent -

Bodyline
It's just not Australian

England is renowned as a country that prides itself on its fair play hence the 'below the belt' strategy known as "Bodyline" was somewhat out of character for the English. Similarly, Australians are renowned for their toughness, innovation and intolerance of whingeing. Consequently, their moaning reaction to the strategy was also somewhat out of character for Australians.

This reversal of cultural behaviour between the two countries may be attributed to the embarrassment the English felt that they could be beaten by people decedent from Convicts and the desire by Australians to prove that they were honourable people despite their Convict heritage.

Out of Character for the English

By the thirties, Australia had proved themselves to be superior to England on the cricket field. Proud Englishmen were " seriously concerned the sport of gentlemen was being dominated by the convicts from the Antipodes and the thinking of the day became, England must win at all costs."

Douglas Jardine's "Bodyline" was such a win at all costs strategy. It involved placing at least five players close in to the batsmen and the bowler continually bowling a barrage of short pitched balls. The short pitched balls would quickly rare up from the pitch placing the batsmen in danger of injury. To counter these rising deliveries, the batsmen would be forced to adopt defensive batting strokes, which would regularly result in catches to the close in fieldsmen. The spearhead of the attack was Harold Larwood.

Donald Bradman, being an exceptionally gifted and attacking batsmen, was affected by these close in fielders. For the series, he only averaged only 56.57 which compared unfavourably with his shield average of 150 for the same period.



Un-Australian reaction to the strategy.

The Bodyline tactic infuriated the Australian public and heated diplomatic notes were sent by the Australian Government. To gain high moral ground, the Australian team refused to use the tactic on the English. To the present day, Australians refuse to let the English forget the unsportsmanlike conduct.

This negative reaction by Australians is peculiar considering that the tactic was within the rules and the bruises suffered by the cricketers was nothing compared to the serious injuries suffered by Football and Rugby League players of the same era. Furthermore, in the mid 80's, the West Indies employed four past bowlers who ruthlessly aimed at the body with the sole intent of inflicting pain. Yet rather than get up in arms like they did with the English, the Australian public respected the Windies and the team remains extremely popular in Australia today.

Furthermore, it was an Australian cricket captain who ordered his bowler to deliver an "underarm bowl" to deny New Zealand a chance of hitting a six off the last ball to win a game. Arguably, this was a far worse example of poor sportsmanship yet many Australians just laugh when they hear Kiwis complain.

This hypocritical behaviour of Australians may be explained as a reaction to the English mocking Australia's Convict heritage. Douglas Jardine, the English captain, once contemptuously referred to Australians as the "lower classes that got away" and during the series, he instructed his bowlers to "Knock that bloody Convicts head off." By refusing to reciprocate when it was their turn to bowl, the Australians took the high moral ground on sportsmanship. In so doing, it allowed them to send a message that it was really the English who were the unsavoury 'Convicts'.

Another possibility is that Australians have long looked for an excuse that would allow them to feel distinct from England. Like Breaker Morant in the Bore War and Gallipolli in World War 1, Bodyline allowed those Australians who wanted to see Australia and England as distinct countries, to find fault in English behaviour.

It is quite interesting to note that Harold Larwood was banned from playing for England as he refused to apologise for the way he bowled. He subsequently immigrated to Australia and rather than find hostility, he was surprised that Australians greeted him with open arms. As one commentator explained:

"Most Aussies in the 1950s when Larwood joined their nation were descended from convicts - often men sentenced for political offences rather than crimes - or the soldiers and warders sent out to run the prison system and they respected any man who stood up to the master class. "

Perhaps then, Australians were angry about bodyline not because they thought it was an evil ploy, rather, it was a good excuse to find fault in the pompous English establishment.

whobdamandog
Nothing interesting to talk about in Europe..what about David Icke? Or how about Eurodisney? Let's just be frank about this Europe is a wannabe United States. The only reason why you guys are even able to compete now is because of the European Union...and we still kick your ass in just about every other social, economic, and environmental issue. Bottom line is..don't F with the US..we're king of the World..Mwahahahaha...

whobdamandog
PS. And you can keep Madonna and Johnny Depp..

whobdamandog
PSS We'll be sending over Micheal Jackson, OJ, Brad Pitt, Tom Cruise, Angelina Jolie..and Katie Holmes very soon..Oh yeah and those damb Olsen twins too.

Clovie
Originally posted by GCG
*looks at clovie*

... erm .... this thread sucks without having a relevant topic to discuss........ we have new president eek!


blink


Originally posted by Deano
lets talk about tony blairs ears
personally i think they are too big
discuss! agreed stick out tongue




and why not to discuss something rellevant..
like educational systems lady
I'm serious..
I wanna know what is the point of that Socrates / Erasmus thigniue
and why is it letting me go only to the southern countries.
and why is i where studying a bit different direction I would be able to go to Belgium or Finland blink

debbiejo
I think European history is fascinating....

botankus
Originally posted by Whurlysplat
Discuss.
What happened to Princess Diana? Did you finally catch your little sister logging on and changing your username?

debbiejo
why was spelljammer banned?

Clovie
Originally posted by debbiejo
I think European history is fascinating.... I know one person who would agree with you tongue10

debbiejo
Does she visit the Tavern?

Clovie
he does wink

debbiejo
You?...Are you a he? blink big grin laughing out loud

Clovie
dunce I am?

debbiejo
laughing out loud laughing out loud

Well at the pub/tavern...shouldn't you be buying me drinks?...LOL...hahahahahahaahaahaa

wine

That OK...I can still treat.....I'm loaded with imaginary money...

Ya Krunk'd Floo
Spam-a-lam-a-blam! Ka-pow! Get a room in the OTF.

Clovie
Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
Spam-a-lam-a-blam! Ka-pow! Get a room in the OTF. lilb is always following your orders?

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