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This is champion fully powered up and written correctly and destroyer armour with just 1 spirit in it

I not totally sure who wins, but my gut goes with the destroyer cos its more versatile and the disintegrator would be a ***** to recover from

Draw

Asgardian Destroyer beats the shit out of Champion

Asgardian Destroyer is well beyond Thanos

can the destroer even be hurt has anyone yet inflicted any damage on its armor?

Originally posted by severance
can the destroer even be hurt has anyone yet inflicted any damage on its armor?
Not really? Only cosmic like Celestials manage to stop it

It can be defeated not for physical force; you would need to attack the host or something. Attack Odin (good idea )

Champ would be K.O

hmm...they both have murky records....Champion is more powerful though IMO.

The champion an d destroyer will be fighting for years, destroyer can't do nothing to him at all neither would champion, I say stalemate.

Champion I say a better fighter but then again Odin is a Skyfather it would be a tremendous fight.

Originally posted by severance
can the destroer even be hurt has anyone yet inflicted any damage on its armor?

King Thor knocked its head off

but i don't see Champion beating it

Originally posted by Scoobless
King Thor knocked its head off

but i don't see Champion beating it



wow didn't know that!

if destroyer beats champion does he have to change his name to ex -champion (or xchampion)

He lost to She-Hulk. He's already Ex-Champion. I thought that meant he'd have to die or something.

What's Champion's greatest victory, by the way? Not involving BFR

Originally posted by Scoobless
King Thor knocked its head off

but i don't see Champion beating it




Thor put a hole in him !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Champion did destroy a plannt with one punch !!!!!!!!!!!!

Im sure that would do some damage.

Originally posted by demigawd
He lost to She-Hulk. He's already Ex-Champion. I thought that meant he'd have to die or something.

What's Champion's greatest victory, by the way? Not involving BFR

well apparently (I don't own the ish), but the same book that Shulkie beats him Champion has just taken care of: Silver Surfer, Drax, Gladiator and Beta Ray Bill

Maybe he was tired from beating the crap out of these guys and thats why he lost to shulk. Maybe he just threw the fight so he could get into bed with her. or maybe it was crap inconsistent writing that beat him

Originally posted by severance
well apparently (I don't own the ish), but the same book that Shulkie beats him Champion has just taken care of: Silver Surfer, Drax, Gladiator and Beta Ray Bill

Maybe he was tired from beating the crap out of these guys and thats why he lost to shulk. Maybe he just threw the fight so he could get into bed with her. or maybe it was crap inconsistent writing that beat him

He had the power gem, which means he has unlimited strength. When She Hulk fights him the second time, it has been removed from his possesion. She has also had an immense strength increase. See WIKI for more details.

So basically Champion without the power gem ain't all that. He also beat those guys in a boxing ring with boxing rules. They weren't allowed to use energy projection or anything else. That doesn't apply here.

Originally posted by demigawd
So basically Champion without the power gem ain't all that. He also beat those guys in a boxing ring with boxing rules. They weren't allowed to use energy projection or anything else. That doesn't apply here.

With the Gem he can destroy plannets with his fists, and is totally invunerable (except to the Thing )

Without it he is a low class 100 (maybe lower) with amazing skills, but no brain.

Skill is nothing without the intellect to back it up. Ever seen an idiot martial artist? I have. They say, "watch my dragon wheel kick", and do a perfect dragon wheel kick. But during sparring, in a confined space where punches are more effective...they try to do a dragon wheel kick. And get owned for their efforts.

No, not impressed.

Originally posted by yahman
With the Gem he can destroy plannets with his fists, and is totally invunerable (except to the Thing )

Without it he is a low class 100 (maybe lower) with amazing skills, but no brain.

so when he fought she hulk did he decide he didn't need the power gem/ or he lost it after applying blue face paint/scratched it off thinking it was a spot?

Originally posted by demigawd
Skill is nothing without the intellect to back it up. Ever seen an idiot martial artist? I have. They say, "watch my dragon wheel kick", and do a perfect dragon wheel kick. But during sparring, in a confined space where punches are more effective...they try to do a dragon wheel kick. And get owned for their efforts.

No, not impressed.

tyson had no brain but he had some skills in the boxing ring. not elegant like ali but skillful nonetheless

Originally posted by severance
so when he fought she hulk did he decide he didn't need the power gem/ or he lost it after applying blue face paint/scratched it off thinking it was a spot?

Refer to the Wiki page.

Originally posted by severance
tyson had no brain but he had some skills in the boxing ring. not elegant like ali but skillful nonetheless

True, but he dominated a weak era. His lack of intellect would have been made apparent by an intelligent fighter like Ali, or Frazier, or Joe Louis.

Originally posted by demigawd
True, but he dominated a weak era. His lack of intellect would have been made apparent by an intelligent fighter like Ali, or Frazier, or Joe Louis.

Garbage !!!!!!!!

Originally posted by yahman
Refer to the Wiki page.
Yeah I actually read te issue where thanos steals the power gem. does he never get the gem back? if not how'd he manage to take out ss, drax, glads and brb?

i'm not being argumentative just wanna know

Originally posted by demigawd
True, but he dominated a weak era. His lack of intellect would have been made apparent by an intelligent fighter like Ali, or Frazier, or Joe Louis.

ali would have taken him - eventually tough fight would have had to rope-a-dope him

frasier no - basically the same animal but tyson's bigger and stronger

joe louis - dunno never saw any of his fights

Originally posted by severance
Yeah I actually read te issue where thanos steals the power gem. does he never get the gem back? if not how'd he manage to take out ss, drax, glads and brb?

i'm not being argumentative just wanna know

He sum how has the gem back when he fights SS and co.

Originally posted by yahman
Garbage !!!!!!!!

Oh yeah? Who has Tyson beaten that's going to the Boxing Hall of Fame one day?

Originally posted by yahman
He sum how has the gem back when he fights SS and co.

and then loses it again b4 fighting shulk?

Originally posted by demigawd
Oh yeah? Who has Tyson beaten that's going to the Boxing Hall of Fame one day?

Frank Bruno

If you're not British you won't get this joke

Originally posted by severance
and then loses it again b4 fighting shulk?

No first time, he beats her quite badly. She then finds some legal problem with him using the Gem. If you proceed to WIKI you will read about She Hulks power up. The next time they fight She Hulk is now a Mid level Class 100 and Champion has no gem. IMO She still should have lost. Sum people think Champion is at a DBZ level of fighting skills, but he surely isn't.

Originally posted by severance
Frank Bruno

If you're not British you won't get this joke

Indeed

Originally posted by severance
Frank Bruno

If you're not British you won't get this joke


Any boxing fan worth his salt knows Frank Bruno. Poor guy. He's such a nice person, too. Just a total loser. Reminds me of another "up and coming" British Boxer you guys unnecessarily hyped. Harrison ring a bell, Brits?

Originally posted by yahman
No first time, he beats her quite badly. She then finds some legal problem with him using the Gem. If you proceed to WIKI you will read about She Hulks power up. The next time they fight She Hulk is now a Mid level Class 100 and Champion has no gem. IMO She still should have lost. Sum people think Champion is at a DBZ level of fighting skills, but he surely isn't.

thanks yahman - this at least eases my mind somewhat as to how shulk possibly beats champ. I agree she still shouldn't be able to beat a guy who knows every fighting style.

I read the wiki on her power up. I quite like the idea. I am no 90's man but it does seem crap that marvel has no brick girl to match with the male bricks.

strength does not always win fights, if it did then power lifters would also be great fighters

Originally posted by demigawd
Any boxing fan worth his salt knows Frank Bruno. Poor guy. He's such a nice person, too. Just a total loser. Reminds me of another "up and coming" British Boxer you guys unnecessarily hyped. Harrison ring a bell, Brits?

don't dis Audley Harrison. he beat my Gran once. it was a split decision though

Originally posted by severance
don't dis Audley Harrison. he beat my Gran once. it was a split decision though

Your poor gran. Refs are corrupt.

Originally posted by demigawd
Your poor gran. Refs are corrupt.

the rematch is on payperview. the fights been delayed while we dig her up (man thats dark even for me)

Originally posted by severance


the rematch is on payperview. the fights been delayed while we dig her up (man thats dark even for me)


I got 50 pounds on Gran if she has enough flesh left to make weight.

Originally posted by severance
thanks yahman - this at least eases my mind somewhat as to how shulk possibly beats champ. I agree she still shouldn't be able to beat a guy who knows every fighting style.

I read the wiki on her power up. I quite like the idea. I am no 90's man but it does seem crap that marvel has no brick girl to match with the male bricks.

strength does not always win fights, if it did then power lifters would also be great fighters

Does it still say she is Class 100 ? shifty

Originally posted by yahman
Does it still say she is Class 100 ? shifty

"In her She-Hulk form, Jennifer possesses vast superhuman strength. On first becoming She-Hulk, she had the ability to lift 50 tons. Since then, she has increased her strength-level through training to the point where she can lift over 100 tons, she is now thought to be nearly as strong as her cousin"

apparently she can out arm wrestle hercules and lift more than twice the Things max

Originally posted by severance
"In her She-Hulk form, Jennifer possesses vast superhuman strength. On first becoming She-Hulk, she had the ability to lift 50 tons. Since then, she has increased her strength-level through training to the point where she can lift over 100 tons, she is now thought to be nearly as strong as her cousin"

apparently she can out arm wrestle hercules and lift more than twice the Things max



Brilliant. I wrote that stuff the other day !!!!!!!!! If you go on the site and press the edit button you can write what you want and it sticks.

All of its true, BTW. IMO she was a Class 100 character.

Originally posted by yahman


Brilliant. I wrote that stuff the other day !!!!!!!!! If you go on the site and press the edit button you can write what you want and it sticks.

All of its true, BTW. IMO she was a Class 100 character.

damn you tricked me into gving you kudos

no i won't be editing as you have read the latest shulk and i have not

Originally posted by severance


the rematch is on payperview. the fights been delayed while we dig her up (man thats dark even for me)

Your grans danny williams?

Originally posted by Maestro
Your grans danny williams?



er i hope not fella or my grandad has some explainin to do about my dad's skin colour

Originally posted by severance
if destroyer beats champion does he have to change his name to ex -champion (or xchampion)

Maybe. When Makkari beat the Runner. The Runner referred to himself as the runner-up.

Originally posted by yahman
With the Gem he can destroy plannets with his fists, and is totally invunerable (except to the Thing )

Without it he is a low class 100 (maybe lower) with amazing skills, but no brain.
he can do that without the Gem.

Infact he has.

Originally posted by kgkg
he can do that without the Gem.

Infact he has.

And yet he got KTFO by She-Hulk after lifting some weights for a few months.

Champion sucks.

Originally posted by demigawd
And yet he got KTFO by She-Hulk after lifting some weights for a few months.

Champion sucks.
No PP, no gem = useless

Even without his power gem, using PP he can pretty much beat anyone on earth.

His powers were planetary level

She-hulk beat a champ who took out his gem , and no PP.

bad writing, champion owns anybody from marvel or dc.

Originally posted by kgkg
No PP, no gem = useless

Even without his power gem, using PP he can pretty much beat anyone on earth.

His powers were planetary level

She-hulk beat a champ who took out his gem , and no PP.

But even without all that, it's like Tonya Harding lifting weights for three months and beating Laila Ali, who's been fighting for several years. Why does Champion need cosmic brass knuckles and a steroided power cosmic to win a game he's been playing for millions of years against a girl who's never played it before?

Because he SUCKS. He's like a cosmic Apocalypse.

Originally posted by the Darkone
bad writing, champion owns anybody from marvel or dc.
Not really bad writing (perhaps on his so call billions of years of training part)

But Champ lost because he was cocky to the point where he battled She-hulk without any power whatsoever.

With the power gem + PP he defeated everyone wroth mentioning ( boxing)

Originally posted by demigawd
But even without all that, it's like Tonya Harding lifting weights for three months and beating Laila Ali, who's been fighting for several years. Why does Champion need cosmic brass knuckles and a steroided power cosmic to win a game he's been playing for millions of years against a Girl who's never played it before?

Because he SUCKS. He's like a cosmic Apocalypse.
Yes I agree

Champ is said to be skilled etc , hardly ever shown.

He relies on PP and them Gem without it he isn't bad.

heck SS kicked his ass

Champion was basically a normal human when he fought She Hulk.

I mean, he lost all his super strength, his durability and speed. He was just a good fighter up against a 200ton lifting green broad.

It was stupid.

Champion still had super-strength. He didn't give up the power primordial. He just didn't use energy blasts and anything else weird.

champ could have been someone but they royally screwed him up. he's more joke than anything else. destroyer wipes his arse out. hell, he got one-punched by drax -- even if drax had the gem, still -- ONE punched.

champ has become a very silly character. i don't know why they made him part of the losers, er, elders of the universe. they all pretty much suck. ('cept grandmaster who is reasonably cool).

I don't really understand why they screwed him over. I think because he was a joke character. Like a comic "Ultimate Warrior".

He never really was supposed to be taken seriously, sort of like Lobo.

But, still. He's basically the cosmic god of fighting, as Runner is the cosmic god of speed and GM the cosmic god of gaming.

I hear he's supposed to appear in the Drax mini, so possibly they will make him less of an idiot. I like Champ....

Originally posted by leonidas
champ could have been someone but they royally screwed him up. he's more joke than anything else. destroyer wipes his arse out. hell, he got one-punched by drax -- even if drax had the gem, still -- ONE punched.

champ has become a very silly character. i don't know why they made him part of the losers, er, elders of the universe. they all pretty much suck. ('cept grandmaster who is reasonably cool).
Drax had the Gem tho

Now that's Drax who is a cosmic Hulk with a power gem.

Anything is possible


As for him losing battle. He hasn't lost that many

Originally posted by demigawd
Harrison ring a bell, Brits?

Harrison suxx monkey ballz

Originally posted by Scoobless
Harrison suxx monkey ballz

an interesting dietary regime. it has not improved his fighting skills all that

Originally posted by kgkg
he can do that without the Gem.

Infact he has.

Mann KG, you cum out with some real cr@P !!!!!!!!!

Retcon :

Power Pirmordial = Power of the 'Power Gem'

Originally posted by yahman
Mann KG, you cum out with some real cr@P !!!!!!!!!

Retcon :

Power Pirmordial = Power of the 'Power Gem'
say what?

PP is a force of creation that the elders use to enhance their field of power.

Power gem it's just a gem that allows infinite strength

I think in SheHulk, Champion and the other mentioned that the Infinity Gems were powered by the Power Primordial.

They even seemed to be considered the same thing. Which is either a retcon, or shitty writing. Probably shitty writing.