Shaper Of Worlds & Tyrant Vs. Asmodel & Neron

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Beyonder
Godlike beings fight it out. Which team wins?

NOT full powered Tyrant.
Neron at full power (first appearance).

thesilverspider
its tough i'll go with team 2 since tyrant aint full powered

ImmortalOne
SoW makes the odds WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYY uneven !!

Avalonofthewind
Either one could do it alone.

kgkg
Shaper Of Worlds beats both of them himself

unless someone proves me wrong wink

Illustrious
Not full power? Doesn't matter. He'll sip a martini as SoW beats the other two.

Avalonofthewind
Blinding light of Heaven ends this in about 3 seconds flat.
Unless now there are anti heaven powers?

Solidus Snake
i dunno about shaper and tyrant beating them. neron and asmodel are older and are more attuned to the ways of the universe.

both are invulnerable and really cant be beaten. if not for zauriel, asmodel could have flattened the planet.


however i beleive that shaper and tyrant may be "soulless" so that may give them an advantage, or it may just make them appear to the angel and demon as a functional inorganic object that they can beat around.

Beyonder
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Blinding light of Heaven ends this in about 3 seconds flat.
Unless now there are anti heaven powers?

laughing

Galactus made Tyrant out of pure energy of Power Cosmic. Maybe that trick might work on a normal herald like Terrax or Morg.

SOW is a Cube Being, also energy. And SOW ain't evil.

K Von Doom
Kinda looks like Galacus made Tyrant out of some spare parts from his worldship

Avalonofthewind
Originally posted by Beyonder
laughing

Galactus made Tyrant out of pure energy of Power Cosmic. Maybe that trick might work on a normal herald like Terrax or Morg.

SOW is a Cube Being, also energy. And SOW ain't evil.

And what is power cosmic compared to power given by the presence?
Have you ever seen Asmodel or Neron hurt?

kgkg
Just because they are angle means they win? That’s no argument.

Feats please

I have seen Gl , MM , Superman handle angles before

Avalonofthewind
What proof do you need?
Have you seen them hurt? Ever??
Zauriel, who was powered down, was killed twice and it was nothing more than an incovinience...and he's levels way below those 2.
Tyrant and SOW could go take over heaven now?

kgkg
There is no heaven in marvel feats please?

No bullcrap.

"Have you seen them hurt?" has the spectre tired, Lucifer ?
Who had tried Superman hmmmmm

As for heaven Gl was toying with multiple angles

Avalonofthewind
Originally posted by kgkg
There is no heaven in marvel feats please?

No bullcrap.

"Have you seen them hurt?" has the spectre tired, Lucifer ?
Who had tried Superman hmmmmm

As for heaven Gl was toying with multiple angles

Are those 2 in Lucifer or Spectre categories?
Do they wield the same kind of power?
Please.

Now go run around on the web trying to find scans of these 2 being hurt.
Thanos got knocked back by Spider-man. The same one that knocked down Galactus and Tyrant. Does that mean that Spidey can beat all 3 or that he is in their class?

kgkg
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Are those 2 in Lucifer or Spectre categories?
Do they wield the same kind of power?
Please.

Now go run around on the web trying to find scans of these 2 being hurt.
Thanos got knocked back by Spider-man. The same one that knocked down Galactus and Tyrant. Does that mean that Spidey can beat all 3 or that he is in their class?
There is a difference between touching and hurting someone.

Thanos got knock back by spider-man? When

Thanos alone take 4-5 heores when fighting. Like I said touching here and there makes no difference.

Tyrant was able to punch all the cosmic without problem.

And Shaper of world has powers that is limitless ( as ever cubes powers ) are

There is nothing he can't do.

Galactic level of manipulation.

I mean what's you argument? That they are angle they win

Well angle had problem with GL

If you can show feats of them handle someone who can destroy galaxy with ease then we have a debate. (because that's Cubes level)

K Von Doom
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
The same one that knocked down Galactus and Tyrant.

I don't think Thanos knocked Tyrant down.

ImmortalOne
Wait a minute.....I just realized how powerful Neron was...... he powered many supervillains...........

As for Asmodel I still dont know how he is compared to SOW !!

Avalonofthewind
Originally posted by K Von Doom
I don't think Thanos knocked Tyrant down.

I have the comic, and he did.
Don't get me wrong.... Thanos didnt win the fight, but he did knock the guy down.

Avalonofthewind
Originally posted by kgkg
There is a difference between touching and hurting someone.

Thanos got knock back by spider-man? When

Thanos alone take 4-5 heores when fighting. Like I said touching here and there makes no difference.

Tyrant was able to punch all the cosmic without problem.

And Shaper of world has powers that is limitless ( as ever cubes powers ) are

There is nothing he can't do.

Galactic level of manipulation.

I mean what's you argument? That they are angle they win

Well angle had problem with GL

If you can show feats of them handle someone who can destroy galaxy with ease then we have a debate. (because that's Cubes level)

Every new villains powers are "limitless"
Yet they still lose.
and down the line, they aren't truly limitless.

Can you show us limitless?

Where is your argument? Cosmic wins?
They manipulate matter, Asmodel can create or destroy it with a word.

kgkg
like i said man evidence.

Skyfathers have destoyed Galaxy > Cubes are higher

again what's the best feat they have?

it's not that hard if you don't have feats or any source to base it one whats the argument?

Avalonofthewind
An angels were laying the plans for a new multiverse when it was going to be destroyed (yet again..)

Where is your proof...show us someone hurting an angel, especially one who was the head of gods army?

kgkg
An angels were laying the plans for a new multiverse when it was going to be destroyed (yet again..)

a plans ? what does that mean feats not planets issue number of best feat.

Cubes can destoy galaxies can angle do anything like that.

again you keep saying angle.

like i said angle they had touble with earth heroes.

Avalonofthewind
Originally posted by kgkg
An angels were laying the plans for a new multiverse when it was going to be destroyed (yet again..)

a plans ? what does that mean feats not planets issue number of best feat.

Cubes can destoy galaxies can angle do anything like that.

again you keep saying angle.

Means that they can survive anything. While everyone and everything else were ****** in their pants the angels just got to work on the next stage. Asmodel made it to Gods throne to try and take his place. Anyone else you know have a feat like that? Has anyone else had the power to "make a seemingly impossible event" to distract the presence?


Originally posted by kgkg

like i said angle they had touble with earth heroes.

It's a comic. Why didnt Galactus blink Reeds out of existence before he could do anything with the nullifier? Why did Doom survive a power blast IN THE FACE from Thanos with the Gauntlet? Why does Gladiator have so many low showings?

Solidus Snake
asmodels very touch and voice destroys matter


all he has to do is speak

the only reason he didnt kill supes was because supes was too "good"

SOW and tyrant are soulless beings and their forms can be manipulated as easily as we fold a paper airplane

Beyonder
Originally posted by Solidus Snake
asmodels very touch and voice destroys matter

Is that why Superman is still alive?



:Laughs:



But he can fold ELECTRIC Superman. roll eyes (sarcastic)

Solidus Snake
supermans soul was too pure for asmodel to utterly destroy him

re: when asmodel hit him with heavens light he was surprised taht supes wasnt killed.

stop being ridiculous and read the story now.

Beyonder
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
And what is power cosmic compared to power given by the presence?
Have you ever seen Asmodel or Neron hurt?

Yet he couldn't beat Superman? laughing Tyrant slaughters through a Bill, Gladiator, and Surfer.

Neron? Did anyone skyfather level or above tried?

No one has hurt SOW or Tyrant either. Thanos? Thanos knocked back Odin and Galactus as well.

Cube Beings in battle: SOW, Kubik, Beyonder, & MM

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/1844/kubikvsbeyonder10tz.jpg
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/7236/kubikvsbeyonder27wr.jpg
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/6485/kubikvsbeyonder39eg.jpg
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/8382/kubikvsbeyonder44rp.jpg
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/7466/kubikvsbeyonder51ae.jpg
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/6034/kubikvsbeyonder67sf.jpg
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/3033/kubikvsbeyonder77qy.jpg

Solidus Snake
u do know that since asmodels blood is the universal solvent that if he bleeds on them that they will die?

Beyonder
Originally posted by Solidus Snake
u do know that since asmodels blood is the universal solvent that if he bleeds on them that they will die?

You do know that it's all said yet shown right? And that your making an assumption that they would die. Where's your proof that his blood would to anything to them?

Heck, why don't you gauge where Asmodel is in the hierarchy. Right now, Electric Superman held him back.

Juntai
Originally posted by Beyonder
You do know that it's all said yet shown right? And that your making an assumption that they would die. Where's your proof that his blood would to anything to them?

Heck, why don't you gauge where Asmodel is in the hierarchy. Right now, Electric Superman held him back. Electric Superman was also said to be the most powerful being in the omniverse. His mere presence awoke the Millenium Titans, who were supposed to then destroy the universe or something, and Superman defeated them. Using him as a guage isn't really viable I don't think.

He also wasn't a physical being and feats and strength are nothing to him, it's his POWER doing the feat not his strength.

Beyonder
Originally posted by Juntai
Electric Superman was also said to be the most powerful being in the omniverse. His mere presence awoke the Millenium Titans, who were supposed to then destroy the universe or something, and Superman defeated them. Using him as a guage isn't really viable I don't think.

He also wasn't a physical being and feats and strength are nothing to him, it's his POWER doing the feat not his strength.

There's your contradiction there. Electric Superman held back, not beat, Asmodel. So he ain't the most powerful being in the omniverse.

Also, Lucifer, Anti-Monitor, Michael have begs a differ.

Also, you got anything other than your claim to this? Scans would be nice.

Avalonofthewind
Originally posted by Beyonder
Yet he couldn't beat Superman? laughing Tyrant slaughters through a Bill, Gladiator, and Surfer.

Neron? Did anyone skyfather level or above tried?

No one has hurt SOW or Tyrant either. Thanos? Thanos knocked back Odin and Galactus as well.

Cube Beings in battle: SOW, Kubik, Beyonder, & MM

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/1844/kubikvsbeyonder10tz.jpg
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/7236/kubikvsbeyonder27wr.jpg
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/6485/kubikvsbeyonder39eg.jpg
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/8382/kubikvsbeyonder44rp.jpg
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/7466/kubikvsbeyonder51ae.jpg
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/6034/kubikvsbeyonder67sf.jpg
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/3033/kubikvsbeyonder77qy.jpg

The effort is appreciated, but it proves nothing. sad

Avalonofthewind
Originally posted by Beyonder
There's your contradiction there. Electric Superman held back, not beat, Asmodel. So he ain't the most powerful being in the omniverse.

Also, Lucifer, Anti-Monitor, Michael have begs a differ.

Also, you got anything other than your claim to this? Scans would be nice.

Heaven is part of the omniverse now?

Beyonder
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Heaven is part of the omniverse now?

No...it's actually inside Superman's toiltet. roll eyes (sarcastic)




And you've proven everything...except how Asmodel was getting held back by Superman. WEAK! laughing

Like the time you proved this...
http://img449.imageshack.us/img449/6858/asmodelsupes8zf.jpg

Avalonofthewind
Originally posted by Beyonder
No...it's actually inside Superman's toiltet. roll eyes (sarcastic)




And you've proven everything...except how Asmodel was getting held back by Superman. WEAK! laughing

Well, I'm glad that makes your day madam. big grin
What is there to prove? That cosmic beings are somehow more powerful that the General of Heavens army? Just put "Marvel wins" in your tag, and save us all the trouble of going back and forth.

Blinding light of heaven. Victory in 3 seconds.
Asmodel wipes them from the book.

Beyonder
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/228/jla00717.jpg
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/3582/jla00718.jpg


Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Well, I'm glad that makes your day madam. big grin
What is there to prove? That cosmic beings are somehow more powerful that the General of Heavens army? Just put "Marvel wins" in your tag, and save us all the trouble of going back and forth.

Obviously Superman doesn't give a damn about that title does he? And that title doesn't seem to be doing anything for the General now does it?

rolling on floor laughing

Avalonofthewind
Damn, I do post some nice quality looking scans.
big grin

Beyonder
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Damn, I do post some nice quality looking scans.
big grin

Yeah, of Superman stalemating Asmodel.

Asmodel: YIELD!
Superman: NEVER!

eek!

kgkg
Originally posted by Beyonder
No...it's actually inside Superman's toiltet. roll eyes (sarcastic)




And you've proven everything...except how Asmodel was getting held back by Superman. WEAK! laughing

Like the time you proved this...
http://img449.imageshack.us/img449/6858/asmodelsupes8zf.jpg
ohh shit

there is why a Cube can beat it.

Avalonofthewind
Originally posted by Beyonder
Yeah, of Superman stalemating Asmodel.

Asmodel: YIELD!
Superman: NEVER!

eek!

Yes, I see how that scan shows Asmodel hurt somehow.. laughing
Keep trying. smile

Beyonder
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Yes, I see how that scan shows Asmodel hurt somehow.. laughing
Keep trying. smile

I also see how that scan shows Superman not hurt by Asmodel somehow... evil face

kgkg
if he can't even taken Superman with ease.

that just shows he can't take Cube it's very simple

Avalonofthewind
Originally posted by Beyonder
I also see how that scan shows Superman not hurt by Asmodel somehow... evil face

Great show of durability by Supes.
Still doesnt show Asmodel hurt at all. smile
Show me a scan of anyone hurting him.
Still waiting. smile

Beyonder
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Great show of durability by Supes.
Still doesnt show Asmodel hurt at all. smile
Show me a scan of anyone hurting him.
Still waiting. smile

Better yet, you show me a scan where Asmodel has enough output to put down a Skyfather much less a Cube Being.

Avalonofthewind
Originally posted by Beyonder
Better yet, you show me a scan where Asmodel has enough output to put down a Skyfather much less a Cube Being.

Nah, I asked first. I'm still waiting... at least a good hit like spidey on your boy thanos...like this..

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/avalonofthewind/thanosdown.jpg

kgkg
I knew you were stupid , but lol shows how retarded you are

Avalonofthewind
Originally posted by kgkg
I knew you were stupid , but lol shows how retarded you are

I'd be insulted, but you barely make sense half the time.
You're too stupid to count your opinion.
Hooked on phonics can work for you. big grin

kgkg
lol so stupid man damn

kgkg
lol so stupid man damn

here is example of shit you pulling
laughing
damn

Juntai
Azmodel is powerful, he may give Tyrant a run, as long as he's not full powered. One must also consider that while you're saying he's a leader angel of heaven... Without backing of God the angels while powerful can still be defeated, though energy Superman is not the best guage of this... Energy Superman was awesomely powerful, being able to perform any strength feat, out-move fash, knew all information, complete control over the magnetic spectrum, could expand his size. He was generally like a limitless supply of cosmic energy. His mere presence summoned the millenium titans to destroy the universe or some shit..

Neron is the one that would be trouble though to me. In his first apperance he was pretty limitless.

I'd say this is a pretty close fight...

I can't decide on a winner, the range of powerset of these characters is difficult to overcome for a comparison.

Beyonder
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Nah, I asked first. I'm still waiting... at least a good hit like spidey on your boy thanos...like this..

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/avalonofthewind/thanosdown.jpg

Even better.

http://superherouniverse.com/superheroes/images/jonah-hex/superman-comic.jpg

Beyonder
http://www.angelfire.com/mo3/gernot0/SUPERMAN/Luthor2.jpg

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