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I never thought it was over a woman, i was dissapointed by this fact for a while. to me it added to Anakin's pusynessness. But then i got used to it just like i got used to Toby McGuire as spiderman, back then. I got used to it.

What i thought turned him before i saw ep.3 was that he indeed wanted to be bad. That he wllingly chose by will, himself to be apart of the Darkside of the Force without any influences telling so. Like he went on a journey to alot of places far away battling many enemies barbarian style or something and found himself and knew where his place was given his power.

In other words he really earned being a Sith by going through war-like conflicts inside and out.

not because of love,

lol I would've never imagined that..! Darth Vader became Darth Vader due to love. Darth Vader is the opposite of Love, wt hell.

Pusyness? You couldn't have been a bit more tactful about it? And doesn't this belong in the Episode III section?

Originally posted by Deus Ex
Pusyness? You couldn't have been a bit more tactful about it? And doesn't this belong in the Episode III section?

your right..ill move it there.

I always thought he became power hungry and left his wife without caring because of the dark side.
I was pretty surprised that his wife quickly popped out two children and quickly died. And then as excuse hearing force bondage!!


I was lead to believe that the mother of Leia died on Alderaan after living with her for a while.
I guess Lucas just had to put in her dying scene because his inspiration ran dry.

I just knew it would have to do with Padme.

The revenge slaughter of the Sandpeople in Episode II was a large step twoards the Dark side, though he was remorseful afterwards. The words he said during his mother's funeral were revealing; about how she died because he wasn't strong enough to prevent it from happening, but it won't happen again. That is clear foreshawdowing of what is to come. Though he thinks it's noble to save those closest to him from death, it's against the Jedi code on emotional attachments, leading to greed. He doesn't listen, and the path is set for a gradual walk to Sithhood.
Naturally, this would come to centre around Padme's fate, somehow.

I thought it would've been some sort of thing where the council finds out about Anakin and Padme, and because of that, he's banned from the council and Padme has to relinquish her Senator position.

I always knew in my mind that it was over Padme Padme was Anakin's weak spot, and naturally, Palpatine exploited it.

How can you be disappointed that it was over a women? i mean, the death of, or the fear of losing your loved ones is the most severe pain known to man, and you need that kind of emotion to tell a heroes downfall

There are may ways that Anakin fell to Darth Vader. His weakness and love for Padme his mothers death and the seduction from Palpatine to make him turn on Obi Wan and the Jedi and his lust for power and control of the galaxy. He also wanted to becom the most powerful Jedi ever he sorta did that with turning to the dark side and alining him self with the Sith.... But thats just what i think.

I think its pretty obvious that he simply wanted to become the most powerful jedi in the galaxy no matter what it took. He lost his mother, hes about to lose padme, he has an obsession with preventing death which makes him a little crazy.

I thought he just got mad at Obi-Wan for something and blamed all the kedi and joined the Dark Side.

I figured the Jedi would find out about anakin and padme, and forbid them to be together, and Anakin would be all, screw dat, but padme would want to do what was best for him, so she would leave him, and then he'd blame the Jedi, something like that.

"The Road to Hell is Paved with Good Intensions". I believe that in the beginning all he wanted to do was to save Padme. He wanted to control her fate. But then that changed to wanting to control everything. When he told Padme about his plans to rule the galaxy, he had a look on his face that was totaly insane and evil. I thnk at that moment is when he truly lost his soul to the dark side.

hey i got a question... Anakin Brought Balance to the Force in episode 3... at the end of that movie there were 2 jedi and 2 sith. and then Destabalized it in Episode 6. he threw The Emperor over the shaft and then died leaving Luke and Leia As the only 2 Jedi left with no sith then in Book 7 (Heir To the Empire) Joruus C'Boath comes along and there is 2 jedi and... (is he light or dark at this point i dont know still in middle of book 8 just cause he was working with the empire doesnt make him dark he was looking for more jedi to train...) So is it just me or will there NEVER be a balance in the force except the time that Anakin made in episode 3?

No Anakin brought balance to the Force in episode 6 when he tossed Palpatine over the railing thereby killing Sidious and himself. No Sith=balance to the Force.

Originally posted by Jedi Priestess
No Anakin brought balance to the Force in episode 6 when he tossed Palpatine over the railing thereby killing Sidious and himself. No Sith=balance to the Force.

Wasn't balance brought to the Force when Vader died and not when Palpatine did?

I'm saying that Anakin brought balance to the Force through his death because it finally eliminated the Sith.

No Sith=balance, right?

err go back and read my post again..

Originally posted by Jedi Priestess
err go back and read my post again..

I overstood your statement, i guess.

I just thought, you were saying that because Anakin threw Palpatine over the railing, Anakin brought balance to the Force.

Then you say , "thereby"..as if obviously stating.. "Since Anakin threw Palpatine over the railing, Palpatine and Anakin died.

lol jeez, i might've overstood it and misunderstood simultaneously..sorry ma'am.

After watching EP2, I got the impression he was afraid of a Padme/Obi-Wan affair. Prior to the PT, I thought he fell just because he was "seduced" by the darkside, and was always a maverick.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
I never thought it was over a woman, i was dissapointed by this fact for a while. to me it added to Anakin's pusynessness..
Oh yes, because being torn apart by love and devotion to one's closest friends and order is just SO easy to shoulder. That being said, he was portrayed as being a pretty big pussy.

I just dunno how someone could love a chick that bad to the point where you lose it all. Your best friend, your sanity, everything. How weak. I call it pusynessness, like fighting for a girl and crap like that. Ill fight for me.

But besides that, I was saying i just never imagined Vader becoming the Powerful Sith Warrior he was to me, over a girl he loved. To me Sith embody hate. And he was a Sith when he was with Padme. Even as Vader, he was still sweet..but thats just me, no girl is worth that. I love the ladies but to go through that, for some ass, is fcukin' insane, just like he was. Insanely in love.

Originally posted by Gryn Jabar
Oh yes, because being torn apart by love and devotion to one's closest friends and order is just SO easy to shoulder. That being said, he was portrayed as being a pretty big pussy.

An who said anything about close friends and the Order. In fact those were one of the most sensible, understandable and legitimate reasons, i think, for Anakins fall.