Dante vs Alucard

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Zen2nd

TwisterGameX
hellsing can not die...

SaTsuJiN
He can teleport?.. dante is pwnt..

Zen2nd
Who voted for Dante?

Basicly Dante can fire at Alucard all he wants but Alucard will just keep coming back.

NinjaJJ
Alucard would eat him.

Alucard wins

Inspectah Deck
Alucard would win. Especially with that big dog looking thing

Venom Dude No.1
Originally posted by Zen2nd
Who voted for Dante?

Basicly Dante can fire at Alucard all he wants but Alucard will just keep coming back.

I voted for Dante, I actually think Alucard could do some serious damage to him, but hey, Dante is a very tough guy too y'know, in the first game y'see a video sequence when the great the sword which Dante uses cuts through the body, and he survives it.

Hit_and_Miss
depends if alucard is let of the leash! if hes not aloud his powers he can't use them!

Zen2nd
As Hit and Miss was saying is if Alucard was allowed full powers, and I'm letting Alucard have full powers, Alucard would be able to eat Dante up through is transformation.

Hit_and_Miss
ah then alucard owns dante with a capital P.....

dvampire
Originally posted by Zen2nd
As Hit and Miss was saying is if Alucard was allowed full powers, and I'm letting Alucard have full powers, Alucard would be able to eat Dante up through is transformation.

And if Dante is allowed to use his powers at it's fullest, he'll be able to vaporize Alucard. big grin

Hit_and_Miss
is that before or after hes put on a pole? head to ass...

Zen2nd
Alucard has had his head chopped off a fair few times. Also sliced a few times too. Even had his own bullets turn him to mush. His gun is quite powerful too. The bullets create a mighty big hole whatever they hit.

dvampire
Originally posted by Zen2nd
Alucard has had his head chopped off a fair few times. Also sliced a few times too. Even had his own bullets turn him to mush. His gun is quite powerful too. The bullets create a mighty big hole whatever they hit.

Which why I said Dante could vaporize him, fight him until sunlight comes up or kill him with silver bullets (maybe I should show some of his manga). smile

dvampire
Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
is that before or after hes put on a pole? head to ass...

Very funny! big grin To bad it won't be happening! laughing

Zen2nd
Sunlight? Thats funny.

Sunlight is no use here.
Stakes to the heart are no use here either.
Vaporizing him won't help either.
And Garlic will definitely be no use here.

How exactly will you vaporize him anyway?

dvampire
Originally posted by Zen2nd
Sunlight? Thats funny.

Sunlight is no use here.
Stakes to the heart are no use here either.
Vaporizing him won't help either.
And Garlic will definitely be no use here.

How exactly will you vaporize him anyway?

Which why I said Dante could vaporize him, fight him until sunlight comes up or kill him with silver bullets (maybe I should show some of his manga). smile

Zen2nd
You just made the same post again? What the f**k?

Go on show me this manga.

Hit_and_Miss
lol he refuses to accept dante ever losing... Alucard will wipe the floor with dante... Theres no way of killing him once his restraints have been lifted... the guy can warp reality.. I don't think devil trigger is going to help here...
Zen2nd - Dvampire tactic is to ignore your posts and just repeat himself endlessly... the guy won't take no for an answer!

dvampire
Originally posted by Zen2nd
You just made the same post again? What the f**k?

Go on show me this manga.

Which why I said Dante could vaporize him, fight him until sunlight comes up or kill him with silver bullets (maybe I should show some of his manga). I could show the manga, but I don't need to right now. smile

dvampire
Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
lol he refuses to accept dante ever losing... Alucard will wipe the floor with dante... Theres no way of killing him once his restraints have been lifted... the guy can warp reality.. I don't think devil trigger is going to help here...
Zen2nd - Dvampire tactic is to ignore your posts and just repeat himself endlessly... the guy won't take no for an answer!

I never said Dante couldn't lose. confused I just don't think Vash can beat him, Neo (Zen and Jin actually did change my mind that Neo does wins inside the Matrix ) outside the Matrix can't beat him, or Alucard (even though this will be a great match). It's not that difficult to beat Alucard, since Either Anderson was able to give him a difficult time; if he goes full power, than Dante will do the same. Oh and Dante wins! smile

Zen2nd

Hit_and_Miss
dude... sunlight and silver won't stop him... it hasn't so far..

dvampire

Zen2nd
Well it must be from the manga then. I looked through the pages there but no evidence of him burning up in sunlight, unless I missed it? Or you have yet to post it?

But anyway Alucard can control the weather to suit him.

Hit_and_Miss
he can warp reality.... I can't believe you some times dvamp... You just love dante too much... Theres no way he can kill alucard other then waiting an absurd amount of time... while alucard can literal bleed him dry....

dvampire
And to finish up this fight now! big grin

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dvampire
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dvampire
Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
he can warp reality.... I can't believe you some times dvamp... You just love dante too much... Theres no way he can kill alucard other then waiting an absurd amount of time... while alucard can literal bleed him dry....

I know what both characters are capable of, I pick the character who whould win IMO, that's all I ever do. If there's a character that I think Dante whould lose to, then I'm choosing that character over Dante, it's that simple. smile

dvampire
Originally posted by Zen2nd
Well it must be from the manga then. I looked through the pages there but no evidence of him burning up in sunlight, unless I missed it? Or you have yet to post it?

But anyway Alucard can control the weather to suit him.

The manga is far better than the anime and is much longer just to let you know. And Dante wins IMO (sorry) wink

Venom Dude No.1
Dante is almost immortal, I have a friend who knows too much about this guy. He told me that Dante defeats a vampire in DMC 3 who ALSO can teleport and stuff.

Dante uses alot more than only shooting guns, he has his incredible Sparda sword, nunchukus, fire gauntlets, fire-and-wind twin sword.

His sword can cut through any kind of body, even through the demon lord Mundus.

He may not be an Einstein-genius but when it comes to a fight he is very cunny and smart.

I hate to tell you this Zen2nd but when Dante gets serious about killing I'm telling you, he isn't kidding. Alucard gets slaughtered big time.

Zen2nd
Yeah they are bringing out Hellsing Ultimate which sticks closer to the manga.



Well Alucard has been sliced in bits a fair few times already.

It is indeed a tough fight to decide who will win.

I'm short on time at this moment but I will return.

Zen2nd
Which is funny because the next time Alucard fought him, he blew off both his arms but strangely spared his life.

Plus slicing off Alucards head won't be good enough to defeat him.

Zair-Chaos
Originally posted by dvampire
Which why I said Dante could vaporize him, fight him until sunlight comes up or kill him with silver bullets (maybe I should show some of his manga). I could show the manga, but I don't need to right now. smile
Dante would waste him with Aruda and Gada from DMC3 or just blow him up with his grenade launcher.

Zen2nd

Lord Ryugen
Alucard stopped Set, a god whose power was being focused by Incognito. Dante's gonna get stomped, as far as I know none of his weapons are blessed or are made out of silver, they just use demon magic. Sure he can cut Alucard down, but Al'll just bounce back as fresh as ever.

Inspectah Deck
Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
he can warp reality.... I can't believe you some times dvamp... You just love dante too much... Theres no way he can kill alucard other then waiting an absurd amount of time... while alucard can literal bleed him dry....

What are you talking about? Your like the numba one Halo fanboy laughing out loud

Zen2nd
After buying the manga I have found out that Alucard can't be killed by sunlight he merely states that he hates it thats all.


Alucard has been sliced many times, swords are not much trouble to him. You could slice Alucard up into really tiny pieces and he'd still come back from that.

Alucard may get slaughtered with the first attack, but Alucard just reforms and transforms and then just eats Dante. Plus not forgetting the fact that when transformed he can still fire his gun from anywhere on his body.

Zen2nd
So let me just finish this once and for all, how exactly would Dante beat Alucard? Give the full details and then I'll post with Dante's result.

Lord Ryugen
Dante can't beat Arucard it's as simple as that. It's not a matter of skill or power he simply doesn't have the means. Arucard has in both manga and anime been ripped apart, he came back. He's been decapitated, he came back. He's been hit with weapons blessed with holy water, he came back. He's been hit with silver weapons, he came back. He's been shot with his own silver exploding bullets. He. Came. Back. Arucard going all out turned London into a giant magic seal and killed Incognito who was channeling the Elder God Set's power. Dante can throw everything including the kitchen sink at Arucard but sooner later he's going to die.

bean_machine
Originally posted by Lord Ryugen
Dante can throw everything including the kitchen sink at Arucard but sooner later he's going to die.

rofl rolling on floor laughing eek! laughing

I totally agree.

Zen2nd
Thank you.

Thats settled now.I can go die in peace

id369

Zen2nd
Strength is irrelevant. All Alucard has to do is transform and literally eat Dante.

Plus even when Dante is at full strength what do you suggest he will do?

Just remember that Alucard can punch through people without too much hassle.



With that Alucard is only messing around. Plus Anderson is quite strong himself and would have the same healing abilities as Dante. Meaning Anderson could also get a sword through the chest and walk away from it easily. But Alucard and Anderson rarely fight actually. For all those times he never transforms and in one such encounter quite easily blows off both Anderson's arms.

Plus the fact that Anderson has religious power's which halters Alucard only some bit. Dante lacks any religious help.

id369

Lord Ryugen
Arucards best feat is killing Incognito while he was channeling the Elder God Set's power. Dante can't win simply because he does not have the means, none of his weapons meet the presquites for killing him, they're not holy, silver or blessed. Even then those type of weapons only seem to do the minimum amount of damage. Dante will get a hell of a lot of hits on Arucard but it won't matter, it never does with Arucard he just reforms. And I'm not sure where you got that soul thing from but I've never seen any evidence to suggest that. It's not mentioned in either the anime or manga as far as I'm aware. Going all out both have stopped gods however unless you can give a reasonable scenario in where Dante could stop Arucard reforming I maintain my support on Arucard.

Zen2nd

IcePunk
Originally posted by Zen2nd
Plus you haven't given any reason why Dante can actually stop Alucard from actually eating him.
Dante got eaten by the Leviathan and killed it from the inside ffs, plus you havent given any reason why would die from getting eaten by him or even get eaten for that matter and b'sides if he gets eaten he could just summon the fires of hell inside him (lava included) creating quite a stomach problem.

IcePunk
Originally posted by Zen2nd
Because there isn't anyone stronger than him.
Yeah so? Almost every enemy Dante fights is stronger than him but he always beat them with relative ease.

Zen2nd
Hmm let me see, inside Alucards stomach he would just endlessly get ripped apart.

Fire and lava is also pointless, Alucard just easily regenerates from that.



That makes no sense. How does he beat people stronger than him?

IcePunk
They're waaay stronger (physically) but not better big grin
And riped apart by what?

Stalker 360
dante has this

IcePunk
Yupp big grin

Lord Ryugen
If you think Dante has this then give a reason, cause I really can't see Dante doing anything that Arucard can't reform from.

MadMel
true

id369
Originally posted by Lord Ryugen
If you think Dante has this then give a reason, cause I really can't see Dante doing anything that Arucard can't reform from.

Dante in his Sparda form was seen braking Metorities getting in his way while he took flight fighting Mundos.

Dante in his Sparda form was seen braking Meteorites getting in his way while he took flight fighting Mundus.

Dante has bien able to hit/damge/kill shadow base monsters.

Zen2nd
You do know what a meteor is?

I would imagine if Alucard wanted to destroy meteorites he could if he so felt inclined.



So? I don't think that Alucard is going to get hurt by Dante slashing at him. Even if he does do anything Alucard will just regenerate. Plus the fact that Alucard can predict the moves that Dante is going to make simply because Alucard is a vampire.

Then also at any time Alucard can turn into bats or mist to make it nearly impossible for Dante to even hit him at all.

Then you have to think about the weapons that Alucard is packing. The 13mm Anti-Freak Combat Pistol Jackal. The tips of the bullets are covered with explosive mercury. The gun is quite powerful enough to blow the limbs off Dante.

Then also Alucard when in his true form has all the extra eyes making it impossible for Dante to escape his view. Then there is the little fact that he can muliply his limbs. Oh not forgetting the fact that he can punch through people.

Plus when he transforms to his powerful form he'll rip Dante to shreds.

id369

Zen2nd
Ah I'm not the one stealing volume 8 am I? It isn't even released in book form in Japan let alone in America nor Ireland for that matter.



Yet again I point out that you stole that material. If you read the books you'll notice a nice copyright on the inside of the book.



Well that doesn't make sense. First you say Alucard can't win, then suddenly you say Alucard will win!?! Thus that would make me right.

I haven't read Volume 8 yet as I wait patiently for the official book version.

id369

Lord Ryugen
First of all id369, neither the Untouchable nor the Holy Water are standard equipment for Dante like his swords and guns. They are optional items that he could buy, and since Zen2nd never specified if Dante had access to those items I merely assumed that he didn't. And think about what you said about the Holy Water, it only kills defenceless enemies, Arucard has been shown to have a resistance to standard Vampire weaknesses like silver and holy water, so I can only assume damage would be minimal unless Dante's packing a load of them. Something which NEVER happens cause the damm things cost so much.

Concerning the Sparda transformation, at what point has Dante been shown to be invincible while in ANY of his Devil Triggers. I'll be the first to admit that I'm only up to 'Dante Must Die' mode on 1 and 3, (I've never spent much time on 2 though embarrasment ) But as far as I am aware Dante can still be harmed not matter his form. And without an endless supply of Untouchables, his Devil Trigger is finite, lasting at maximum somewhere between 30 seconds and a minute if I remember correctly. The only time this was different was during the first stage of the Mundos fight, and even then he was knocked out of it with enough damage.

As for the scans you've shown, yes I knew nothing about them I don't have that particular volume at this particular point in time. I can't research material if I don't have access to it, as far as I was aware Arucard simply used a form of Dark Magic, not the souls of those he killed. And if possible I would like to know how he was defeated, because if it involves something Dante isn't capable of then that particular argument is moot.

Right now in this fight Dante has access to only one weapon that Arucard could arguably die outright from, and thats only if the creator of this thread allows it. Otherwise I see no reason to assume that Arucard can dodge and teleport away from the majority of Dante's attacks and be able to reform those he can't dodge. Dante is a better fighter but as long as Arucard has those two particular advantages it shouldn't matter. As far as I'm concerned Arucard still wins the fight.

Zen2nd
I was fully aware of the release actually but there is one slight thing you forgot. That is Alucard in the past. Since then Hellsing have done experiments on him to make him even more powerful than he was in the past.

If you go back all the way to volume 1 you'll notice in the basement they had experiment labs.



How was I proved wrong? I said that Alucard would beat Dante. Then you say that Alucard would beat Dante. Ergo would that not make me correct?

Only up to Volume 7 has been released in book form, in proper transfered English.

Don't say I act childish please. Just saying that yourself makes you look immature. You had access to material some people might not want to read. Even I don't want to read it. I want to get it in proper book form. The official source. I'll pay my money for the book and add to the popularity of it.

So I ask have you bought the books or are you cheap?

You never said that Alucard would lose but you heavily implied that he would.

id369

Zen2nd
Okay thanks.

I'll leave it at that. Until volume 8 comes out wink

Lord Ryugen
Well how to reply? I know full well that Holy Water would damage Arucard and, however both Anime and Manga show him have at least some resistance to Vampire weaknesses, I was merely stating that if Dante was allowed them I doubted he would have enough to kill Arucard outright. And due to his resistance he could take less damage from them than standard.

If the Incognito fight is not considered cannon then I will of course remove from my argument. However it is a good case for showing Arucards durability, he wasn't in any trouble till he got shot wih his own bullets. That said he did need to absorb all the blood in the tower of London to recover and fight.

I am fully aware of Sparda's and the Super devil trigger power, however neither has an attack that I can't see Arucard being able teleport away from, the best attack there is the giant magma dragon and even that's only unidirectional. And remember Dante can't hold these forms forever and once he's back to normal he has to recharge by fighting. And yes technically Arucard can only go out once he's given permission but I'd assume we're using both combatants at their best which would mean Arucard would have the capability. Otherwise the fight would be decidedly one sided.

Yes you did prove that Arucard had a finite amount of power and that he was defeated by humans. But since I gather Arucard never mentioned how the three humans beat him both of us have to make an assumption on what happened, and I would have to assume that some form of magic was used since I highly doubt the conventional weapons of that era would bother Arucard unless he was significantly weaker. And yes I have been looking around the net for reliable information, unfortunately the Internet rarely has that, obviously you found it but I'm still looking.

Concerning the weapons

DMC 3 Beowulf, yes it's light based and could probably kill Arucard, but it's not a sword id, its a pair of greaves and gauntlets, this means Cante has to get within H2H range and I consider Arucards intelligence level high enough to try and keep out of range if he sees a guy with glowing metal hands and feet running at him.

DMC1&2 Sparda's sword. It's not really that great until Dante uses Devil trigger, course then it's a beast, range goes up...and it did destroy Mundos' body, so it's got a hell of a lot of dark power...hmm well I guess it depends on terrain for that, If Arucards got room to teleport out of range and hide for the duration then it's all good, if not then Arucard loses.

DMC1&2 Yamamoto...wasn't that just another one of Sparda's keepsake swords? I don't see what it's going to do.

Ebony&Ivory You already gave the reason I didn't include them, we don't know if it's only normal bullets it fires. Remember Lady in 3 was able to kill demons with standard rounds.

DMC3 Artemis The single worst weapon in the game, yes it's holy but lets face it if Arucard can't dodge it's attack he has no business in this fight.

DMC1&2 Nightmare Beta, a weapon that drains Dante's devil trigger to release a single beam that bounces off surfaces. I don't see it as a very useful weapon against a moving target. If you miss once you've got to be pretty damm lucky or a master a figuring out angle to hit on the rebound.

You know I'm almost sold on Dante's victory. I never meant to say he only had one weapon he could use, just one weapon that he could use effectively. Obviously we disagree on this but you've convinced me that Sparda will do the job provided he gets Arucard before he's able to dodge/teleport.

Blue nocturne
Hmmm good fight.

Zen2nd
I was thinking about this. If they beat Alucard why is he still around? Plus Hellsing made him stronger than he was back then anyway.

I imagine that Helsing and his gang of men only managed to lock him up not actually defeat him because there wasn't a way to beat him.

Milkie
Alucard rides in on a Gundam and shoots Dante in the face.

Burning thought
Kain from the legacy of kain series reaves both their souls with the reaver and ends the fight

Marcellus
thumb up

Zen2nd
As mentioned in the other thread Alucard doesn't have a soul.

bean_machine
true that.

Burning thought
who took his soul, where it go?

anyway back on topic, regardless of his soul not being there the reaver is an indestructable sword that drain souls AND blood, his strength and power will waste away, Kain is too much for most characters

killer840
ok im a fan of both of these fighters an i say this is goin 2 b a draw cuz think about it 4 a second Alucard does hav reg an tele but dante has the sword of his father that killed basicly the greatest demon in the world an i know of alu's demondog form but agin if u ever played dmc3 dante has 2 skill that would make that usless he has quicksilver witch bascily stops time an dopleganger (guess wut that does) but agin alu's demon self is a force 2 b reconed with so 2 me its a draw plain and simple

killer840
oh an alucard has no soul because its basic vampirism u sacrifice your soul 4 immortality but even that would come at a price witch would b the drinking of others blood

josue ff7
alucard cant be killed by sunlight halfvimpire

nano_probex
In their own rights, both are incrediblly powerful. But when put together I believe Alucard wins.

He gets eaten... doggeh style! Yeehaw! xP

grey fox
Alucard slams dante.

Alucard took down Goderson DESIGNED to beat the undead and all unholy creatures) he ripped the bitches heart out and then monolouged

Dante is another familiar for Alucard...on the plus side dante can get it on with Rip van Winkle....

Friday13
ok... i watched the DMC anime, but never played any of the games. i know enough about the games from wikipedia and this thread. as i watched dmc, one question always popped up: "Who would win? Alucard or Dante?" so i watched the first episode and looked the question and i saw this thread. I read it (Took like a fu(kin hour) and i went to do my research on alucard. here is my thoughts:

"Hey, Dante, im tired and youre tired,. how about end this with a draw?"

"Yea that's wat i have been thinking. screw those guys working their @$$es off trying to prove that one of us is stronger"

"Yea, want to get a beer?"

"Hellz yea bro!?

"When i say beer i mean blood..."


im gonna post my evidence later, now i gotta go to bed

leonheartmm
ok, its pretty simple really, dante KILLS alucard in the blink of an eye. UTTER mismatch.

HonkyTonkMan
When the f*ck could we start using anime in the 'Game Versus forum'?!!??

Crazy cats.

Dante anyway. Why you ask!?

Shhhh...

leonheartmm
seriously, people have NO idea what thy are talking about here. alucard is less than an ANT compared to dante.

demon power>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>holy weapons/holy water in hellsing
dante's speed and reflexes let him fight lightening and LIGHTspeed enemies without breaking a sweat
dante can warp dimesnion/teleport/manipulate TIME!
he can take colossal amounts of damaga, one of his lesser feats is being impaled by 6 or so mystical soul reaping scythes and still continuing to eat his pizza
the yamato sword can clice through dimension, it casually sliced through a mystical skyscraper height solid structure miles away with a single strike
dante killed a being who was not only a true god but the embodiement of the abstract concept of "dispair" itself at the end of devil may cry 2.
dante has now killed two enemeis capable of destroying the earth
many of his enemeis have such insane regeneration that cut off limbs can actually tranfrom into completely new being, and yet dante's mystical powers are too much for them to regenerate from

there is absolutely NUTHING in the arsenal of the entire hellsing verse to harm dante.

btw alucard is currently DEAD in the cannon manga, as opposed to uncannon anime.

again, this is not even worth discussing, maybe when u can pich him against a few planet buster, then we can talk. and people seriously need to get a CLUE. alucard is one of the most overrated characters in history.

k1Lla441
dante pwns this kid too bad, i mean in dmc4 he got stabbed straight threw him by his own sword, shook it off, and took it out of him like it was nothing. nuff said.

donpalaboy
i put my bet on alucard

Centuries of combat experience

Immortality: like other vampires, Alucard is immortal in that he does not age. It is also nigh-impossible to injure him in any way that actually compromises his health.

Summoning familiars, the souls of those whose blood he has sucked either sprout from his body or swarm about him as an army numbering in the thousands. These familiars can include animals such as horses and the weapons and abilities that the familiars possessed in life. This ability can only be used when his last seal is released. It is suggested that this storing of souls was the primary reason for Alucard's apparent immortality. According to the last chapter, Alucard possessed 3,424,867 souls after the Millennium attack, and has since killed them off.

donpalaboy
NARUTO vs. ALUCARD
hehe

donpalaboy
Ultimately though there is no real way to know or predict who would win is because the two of them are from two completely different universes that obey their own laws (that being the author/character creators), if Kouta Hirano decides that Alucard is invincible and nothing can destroy him, or if some weird catboy can kill him, then within the Hellsing Universe that remains true, same goes for Capcom with Dante >.>; Unless the two of them were to sit together and make some sort of boundaries/common rules, I don't really think either Dante or Alucard being the victor would be an appropriate answer. Although from my point of view, I think neither of them would actually win in the event that Dante is immortal, although Alucard would probably be having alot more fun >.>; although in the event that Dante is subject to the limits of the gameplay mechanics, I'd vote for Alucard winning

DantevsKratos
Originally posted by donpalaboy
Ultimately though there is no real way to know or predict who would win is because the two of them are from two completely different universes that obey their own laws (that being the author/character creators), if Kouta Hirano decides that Alucard is invincible and nothing can destroy him, or if some weird catboy can kill him, then within the Hellsing Universe that remains true, same goes for Capcom with Dante >.>; Unless the two of them were to sit together and make some sort of boundaries/common rules, I don't really think either Dante or Alucard being the victor would be an appropriate answer. Although from my point of view, I think neither of them would actually win in the event that Dante is immortal, although Alucard would probably be having alot more fun >.>; although in the event that Dante is subject to the limits of the gameplay mechanics, I'd vote for Alucard winning you definaltly are a juniour member

Luminatus
I don't think this belongs here...

Anyway, both suck so they both lose.

Peach
Why was this thread bumped?

Anyway, it's against the current rules, so closed.

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