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Two titans battle it out, the victor?

Do you mean Kreia as a jedi or Darth Traya as the dark lord of the sith?

WTF!?

They are the same!

Search button its been done before.

janus said we should stop making pointless new threads and bring back old ones.

OMFG!

Janus say it rite so it is! OMG!

Stop sucking up to Janus, geez, you treat him like some kind of deity.

Lord Simus, I am quite aware that this has been done before, so please don't patronise me.

Sorry I didn't mean to sound rude.

It's okay, I shouldn't have accused you of patronising me, sorry.

Back to the debate anyway.

I rank Traya around DE Sidious, so she should take this without too much of a problem.

Well isn 't Darth Traya more powerful than just Kreia?

No they are the same person!

No I mean like before she was exiled.

WTF!?

We know nothing about Kreia then, this is KotOR II era Kreia.

Oh.

I think Traya would win, she has displayed far more power in the force than Yoda.

Originally posted by Darth Traya
OMFG!

Janus say it rite so it is! OMG!

Stop sucking up to Janus, geez, you treat him like some kind of deity.

Lord Simus, I am quite aware that this has been done before, so please don't patronise me. Deity? no i think it is smart not to have 50 (well 3 or 4) of the same thread and i think most people listen to janus more then me so there.

This coming from someone who said starwars.com is crap.

jesus tapdancing.....

I meant that it uses every source, canon or not

Originally posted by Darth Avis
Deity? no i think it is smart not to have 50 (well 3 or 4) of the same thread and i think most people listen to janus more then me so there.

Let's debate, if you don't like it then don't post.

Unfortunately it doesn't.

traya pwns yoda with 3 lightsabers and the dark side.

Debate about the topic at hand, please.

If you would like to know what people think about this fight you could just search it then look at all the other ones that were made about this.

Are you an idiot?

Are you, this thread gets posted like 6 times yet you post it again!

Actually, there was one two page thread which consisted of the majority of people saying how Yoda would beat Kreia.

Kreia was the Jedi who trained Revan, was exiled due to Revans dark path, then became the Dark Lord of the Sith. We do know about Kreia. She would beat Yoda because I nthink that she is just below DE Sidious' power, and he could cruch Yoda likea bug.

Is that not correct?

Well, in my opinion, Kreia isn't exceptionally talented as a duelist. But her Force powers are extremely mighty and her handy-dandy instant kill is a bonus. If she can take the battle to that of the Force, she will win.

But if she, let's say, tries to take Yoda in a saber fight, she'll loose. He's too quick and agile for her.

Traya is exceptionally skilled as a Force-user. In this category, she is above any PT Jedi or Sith, including our great Yoda. Yes, Jim. She is beneath DE Sidious, simply because he's done greater feats with the Force. Like wiping out fleets and transporting people across the galaxy. But Traya's instantkill owns.

If she gets it off, she'll kill Yoda with ease. If she has a prolonged Force battle, she will still win. If she tries to fight Yoda with a saber, I don't think she will. But chances are Traya is clever enough to recognize Yoda's superior agility and speed, and take the battle to the Force.

Traya wins.

I'd like to point out as I always have to with Traya that just because people think or feel she sucks with a saber, we actually have no proof of her saber abilities period. She could be a virtual sabergod.

Kreia wins. She's a Great Sith War veteran, which is cool and shows she had to be good. That and she trained Revan, re-trained the Exile, made Sion her bi**h, defeated many Sith Assassins, and had extensive knowledge of Korriban and the True Sith Empire.

Originally posted by Deus Ex
I'd like to point out as I always have to with Traya that just because people think or feel she sucks with a saber, we actually have no proof of her saber abilities period. She could be a virtual sabergod.

Well...she would pretty much suck when it comes to saberlocks, having only one hand left for fighting. And seeing that even the master fencer Dooku needed two hands to parry some of Yoda's attacks and engange in saberlocks with him (and still lost) Yoda will most likely defeat Kreia in a lightsaber fight.

For force power: If Kreia can use her instakill ability, Yoda is pretty much toast.

I dunno about that. Dooku did parry Obi-Wan and ANakin's downward chops with one hand quite easily. I think two hands are used more for leverage than for strength, since the Force does aid one's abilities.

Originally posted by Deus Ex
I dunno about that. Dooku did parry Obi-Wan and ANakin's downward chops with one hand quite easily. I think two hands are used more for leverage than for strength, since the Force does aid one's abilities.

Yes. The point is that Yoda seems to be able to push his physical strength to a very high level using the force and same goes for Dooku (otherwise Obi-Wan and Anakin would have pretty likely broken his arm when he parries both of them doing downward attacks at once with one hand - or at least pushed his lightsaber back into his face).

I won't doubt that Kreia is able to do the same thing - but having only one hand is a serious handicap when it comes to fighting.

Especially when it is a left hand, unless you are left handed(like me ).

Since it's a KOTOR subject...

KOTOR never states who the Dark Lord of the Sith is at the time. In fact, it might not even be true to call the Revan or the villains Traya, Sion, and Nihilus Sith. Did not Kreia say that the true Sith lie in wait in the unknown regions?

The fighting in KOTOR was called the Sith Civil War, but you're right, the DLOS is uknown.

Kreia...unless its the almighty DS yoda.

Originally posted by IKC
Since it's a KOTOR subject...

KOTOR never states who the Dark Lord of the Sith is at the time. In fact, it might not even be true to call the Revan or the villains Traya, Sion, and Nihilus Sith. Did not Kreia say that the true Sith lie in wait in the unknown regions?

Actually, it's RUMORED to be remnants of the true Sith empire beyond the Outer Rim. Not confirmed.

Hmmmmm....probably
Yoda. Although Traya's floating lightsabers are pretty damn cool.

Traya has displayed far more power in the force than Yoda. Plus she isn't inhibited by the Jedi Code, she can use offensive powers against Yoda.

Yes. In a battle of the Force, Yoda would lose. But in a battle of sabers, Kreia would get owned. But she's very clever, so she'll keep it a Force battle, most likely. Yoda would lose.

Originally posted by Escape81
Yes. In a battle of the Force, Yoda would lose. But in a battle of sabers, Kreia would get owned. But she's very clever, so she'll keep it a Force battle, most likely. Yoda would lose.

Whilst it is folly to speculate on the lightsabre powers of Kreia, I do agree with you. Kreia would lose. In the force though, Yoda does.

*Kicks Kreia*

I win! Old women can't take having their brittle pelvis' kicked in! Woot!

"Nurse, nurse! My claustomy bag is overflowing!"

Originally posted by Ianus
*Kicks Kreia*

I win! Old women can't take having their brittle pelvis' kicked in! Woot!


i knew it !!! a gay hating, old women beating, crap pic/insult posting dolphin flogger!!!!

*Kicks Yoda*

I win! Old midget men can't take having their brittle pelvis' kicked in! Woot!

Originally posted by Ogami Itto
i knew it !!! I'm a queer pointless SS loving dork who needs to go get bent!!!!!

You again?

stop trolling me !!idiot

Originally posted by Ianus
You again?

Lol Janus you need to take yoga or something.

Originally posted by Great Vengeance
Lol Janus you need to take yoga or something.

Are you calling me fat? Ass! lol

Kreia Uses Force Crush To Turn Yoda To a Small Flat Green Pizza then with her 4 floating lightsabers cuts him up and serves him to Exile and Reven

Originally posted by Ogami Itto
i knew it !!! a gay hating, old women beating, crap pic/insult posting dolphin flogger!!!!

Originally posted by Darth Avis
Deity? no i think it is smart not to have 50 (well 3 or 4) of the same thread and i think most people listen to janus more then me so there.

There's a reason for that. Janus is a veteren around here, and is easily among the most capable of debators. Hell, he may very well be the best among them. Nai and Faunus are very close.

I'd go with Traya because she seems to be much more powerful in the force than Yoda. Though I do indeed like it when he does the bouncing green man routine.

Originally posted by Darth Traya
OMFG!

Janus say it rite so it is! OMG!

Stop sucking up to Janus, geez, you treat him like some kind of deity.

Lord Simus, I am quite aware that this has been done before, so please don't patronise me.

Geez Janus...you are just to damn popular here at KMC.

Originally posted by Veneficus
Geez Janus...you are just to damn popular here at KMC.

Definately. I think I'm just personable. I think people give me more credit than I sometimes deserve (Note Escape's post) but then again I'm haughty and evil so I won't exactly turn it away.

*Pushes noobs into mud*

HAHAHAHAHAH!! Silly mortals!

Back to the subject...

I'm pretty sure that Exile (who I doubt can take Revan) could defeat Kreia then I'm sure that Yoda (who many consider to be on Revan's level) could do it since Yoda is faster and would keep the fight melee.

Yoda would suffer the same fate as the three Jedi Masters. Getting slamed against a wall and being smashed up.

Kreia is feared by Sion, an invulnerable Sith Lord. In the cut content, she kills all of the Exile's party members with comical ease. She tosses Vrook and two other experienced Jedi Masters around like they were ragdolls.

Traya has displayed a far more pertinent command of the force than Yoda ever has.

Originally posted by Darth Traya
Yoda would suffer the same fate as the three Jedi Masters. Getting slamed against a wall and being smashed up...

Yeah, like what Sion did to Kreia.

Originally posted by jollyjim311
Yeah, like what Sion did to Kreia.

Considering Nihilus did all the work, Sion beat up a defenceless old lady who had the force drained from her.

I know, I agree with you that Kreia would play ping pong with Yoda, I just like that video where Sion pounds the crap outta Kreia.