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Page 3 "I can hear Supergirl's heartbeat"
Page 4 "It's in perfect sync with Power Girl's"
We then go on a ride showing Clayface and others going after her, and she seems almost at the point of losing...but thats when Earth 2 Superman flys in and saves the day. "Cousin"

Next we have the Daily Planet, where news of different dead heroes and Omacs is floating through the air, while Lois is trying to get her head on straight. She goes to Clark who is staring at an oversized "Superman Dead" front page, thinking about what Bruce said last issue. He realizes that he really needs to get out there and do something...NOW.

Here's a list, in order, of what follows:
-Meeting of Secret Society of Super Villians

-Luthor confused after listening in on the Soiciety on a polar ice cap

-Earth 2 Superman and Power Girl fly by heading towards thier own little hide out

-5 pages explaining everthing pre CoiE up to NOW (VERY well done)

-Earth 2 Lois is dying

-Booster Gold appears at the crater of the watchtower, and realizes he has one job: to find the Blue Beetle scarab.

-The Joker finally shows up. He's killed most of The Royal Flush Gang and is torturing the King, asking why he isnt being recruited like all the other villians. "See, everyone knows...Joker's TOO wild" Joker zaps his face off "That's not funny..."

-Power Girl touches Earth 2 Lois and remembers everything from her life on Earth 2

-Batcave...Batman gets a talking to from OMAC...blaming metahumans for everything, especially Wonder Woman

-Themyscira (2 page spread...very well detailed) Wonder Woman defending the island from many OMACs as the Amazons fight

-The last 2 pages are hard to explain and is probably the biggest "Spoiler" of them all

Kal-L last page
"...But i realized we saved the wrong earth"
"I need your support and help, Cousin. We can save Lois. We can save her if we can take her home."
"This corrupted and darkened Earth must be forgotten as ours was..."
"...So that the right Earth can return"

Jim Lee IC#3 cover

http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/InfiniteCrisis/INCRLeeCv3.jpg

This is gonna be BIG.

Big as Namor's ego.

It is big...Ion gave a great descrip, no need for me to do it now.
Now Im wondering if the 2 supermen will be battling each other...

I'm think they'll throw down for sure but how long can that last? If Kal-L still has his old power level, our current Supes will go down pretty fast.

http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/InfiniteCrisis/CrisisCOunseling02.htm

Q: Who goes out in one of the bigger blazes of glory in Crisis?

DD: The bigger the hero, the bigger the blaze. Expect some issues to be white hot.

Diana and/or Wally, bye bye. We hardly knew thee.

I don't why, but my favorite part in that issue was Clark at the Daily Planet looking at framed frontpage of the daily planet "Superman Dead" and him telling Lois that "Bruce is right...He's always right."


I don't think Dc is going to go back to old days.

I really think that it is going to get darker. Golden Age Supes won't get what he wants.

This issue was a summary of the original crisis. It gave Power Girl an origin.

And it showed us that Superman from Earth 2 wants to get rid of Earth 1.

Not much is actually happening yet; its following a pace similiar to HoM. I think that will change with issue 3 though.

I still feel like I am being punished for not being able to afford the minis to IC though. It seems like a lot of the essential parts of the plot were in them.

As a whole though, it's not driving me wild. (Which is understandible because my budget limits the amount of DC stuff I pick up each month.)

Originally posted by 8bitChris
This issue was a summary of the original crisis. It gave Power Girl an origin.

And it showed us that Superman from Earth 2 wants to get rid of Earth 1.

Not much is actually happening yet; its following a pace similiar to HoM. I think that will change with issue 3 though.

I still feel like I am being punished for not being able to afford the minis to IC though. It seems like a lot of the essential parts of the plot were in them.

As a whole though, it's not driving me wild. (Which is understandible because my budget limits the amount of DC stuff I pick up each month.)

Mate, are you related to Bendis or something ?

Originally posted by yahman
Mate, are you related to Bendis or something ?

I don't get it?

Originally posted by The Ion
I'm think they'll throw down for sure but how long can that last? If Kal-L still has his old power level, our current Supes will go down pretty fast. It appears Earth-2 Supes has his old power level.

Notice how long t it took him to dispatch the villains that were fighting Power Girl?

Originally posted by snoopdogg
It appears Earth-2 Supes has his old power level.

Notice how long t it took him to dispatch the villains that were fighting Power Girl?
Yeah but you can never tell with PG. She's never been portrayed as strong as even Kal-El.

It looked like Batman got it this time.
Alfred: "You know, There was one thing your father never wanted to be... Alone"
"Fortunately, he had your Mother at his side..."

Alfred its the king of ownage.

I've just read issues 121 and 120 of JLA. Whopse the guy who as broken out of Arkyham ? Is he potentionally the 'crisis' or is he just a side plot? I saw that Trigon had featured in one of the recent Teen Tiatn books. Could he be in for a match against Spectre ? What role is the real Luthor going to play in this whole affair, and where has the other one come from ? What is devouring the the DC galaxies ?

That, my friend is the Key. He once nearly took over the universe by opening the door to the infinite(some crazy crap like that) but was stopped by Green Arrow (dont ask..)

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
It looked like Batman got it this time.
Alfred: "You know, There was one thing your father never wanted to be... Alone"
"Fortunately, he had your Mother at his side..."
Yeah he did. WW is on the Perez cover for IC 3 so I'm wondering who will put her in her place.

Originally posted by The Ion
http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/InfiniteCrisis/CrisisCOunseling02.htm

Q: Who goes out in one of the bigger blazes of glory in Crisis?

DD: The bigger the hero, the bigger the blaze. Expect some issues to be white hot.

Diana and/or Wally, bye bye. We hardly knew thee.

What makes you think Diana will die? NO way in hell they would kill off Diana since she's part of the Big Three..plus she'll just turn into a goddess again. That would be horrifically redundant.

Batman should die. All signs point to him dying.

Flash would also be utterly redundant. Kid Flash is way too young and inexperienced to take the reigns.

Just read the issue. Too be honest it wasn't as good as the first. But it IS laying groundwork for cinematic battles...

Also I didn't think it was possible but PC Supes is even MORE of a dick than usual. Who the hell does he think he is by wanting to make the DC Universe a backward 50's Pleasantville-esque universe? Jesus Christ. The nerve...

Agreed. I think PC Supes did come off as a dick there...but then again, in his place, nearly anybody would do the same thing. Remember...to Earth 2 he would be a hero.

Still, Supermans style is usually to try and save everyone, not decides who lives and dies...

Still too early to call him a dick. It's quite possible he's being manipulated by Alex Luthor. Remember that it's him who's showing E2 Supes all the negative stuff from Earth.

Originally posted by Draco69
What makes you think Diana will die? NO way in hell they would kill off Diana since she's part of the Big Three..plus she'll just turn into a goddess again. That would be horrifically redundant.

Batman should die. All signs point to him dying.

Flash would also be utterly redundant. Kid Flash is way too young and inexperienced to take the reigns.
Actually I'm just confident a Big 7 JLA member will bite the dust. I personally don't think DC has the balls to ice Bats.

Dam everything else. Did you all see that Joker took out the whole Royal Flush Gang? Too bad they didnt show how he did them one by one ehh? Hes the f'n man.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Dam everything else. Did you all see that Joker took out the whole Royal Flush Gang? Too bad they didnt show how he did them one by one ehh? Hes the f'n man.

Yea, I thought that was pretty badass as well.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Agreed. I think PC Supes did come off as a dick there...but then again, in his place, nearly anybody would do the same thing. Remember...to Earth 2 he would be a hero.

Still, Supermans style is usually to try and save everyone, not decides who lives and dies...

But he WON'T be saving everyone. You heard him. EVERYTHING will go back to the way it was. That means millions upon millions of people will cease to exist. Just because PC Superman doesn't like the DC Universe's decor...

He's just an old man blabbering about the golden good old days.

Originally posted by The Ion
Actually I'm just confident a Big 7 JLA member will bite the dust. I personally don't think DC has the balls to ice Bats.

I think they will. They iced Superman they can ice Batman. Way too many allusions and foreshadowings indicating Batman will make the ultimate sacrifice.

PC Supes said he saved the wrong Earth and that it must be forgotten like his was.

So that the right Earth can return. What Earth was he talking about?

Superman was dead for what, 6 months? If Batman dies it would be a similar length, probably the length of the 52 series.

Wally is redudant for sure but the strongest rumor I hear about the 52 series is that Bart will be The Flash.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
PC Supes said he saved the wrong Earth and that it must be forgotten like his was.

So that the right Earth can return. What Earth was he talking about?
I don't even know how to interpret that one. The current Earth is suppose to be Earth-1 with elements of the others folded into it.

Originally posted by Draco69
But he WON'T be saving everyone. You heard him. EVERYTHING will go back to the way it was. That means millions upon millions of people will cease to exist. Just because PC Superman doesn't like the DC Universe's decor...

He's just an old man blabbering about the golden good old days.

He won't and he can't. He's stuck in a past that cannot exist..and is sounding dangerously like Hal before he became Parallax...

I think that he was talking about a diff. Earth alltogether.

Originally posted by The Ion
I don't even know how to interpret that one. The current Earth is suppose to be Earth-1 with elements of the others folded into it.

Earth 1 is the earth that survived Post crisis, with bits and pieces of whatever was left of other realities blended in to our current dc universe.

PC Supes is from earth 2. He basically wants to alter things so Earth 2 is the backbone of everything in reality while Earth 1 is erased from existence.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
He won't and he can't. He's stuck in a past that cannot exist..


Stuck in the past? Whaddya talking about? He broke the barrier to the DC Universe and had no problem saving Power-Girl's ass from the Society. He obviously can come and go in and out of the DC Earth AND is currently residing in the FoS.


Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
and is sounding dangerously like Hal before he became Parallax...

Which is precisely my point. Hopefully Power-Girl won't be blinded by her past connections to her "family"

And didn't anyone else think Phil Jiminez drew a HORRIBLE Power-Girl? Good Lord. Her shoulders looked so bizarre...

Originally posted by snoopdogg
PC Supes said he saved the wrong Earth and that it must be forgotten like his was.

So that the right Earth can return. What Earth was he talking about?

He was talking about Earth 2. He failed to save Earth-2 rather than Earth 1 which is what the current DC universe is basically based on with bits and pieces of Earth-2 added.

THIS time he's going to reverse this and make the current DC universe like Earth 2. Pleasantville basically with completely unrealistic people.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Earth 1 is the earth that survived Post crisis, with bits and pieces of whatever was left of other realities blended in to our current dc universe.

PC Supes is from earth 2. He basically wants to alter things so Earth 2 is the backbone of everything in reality while Earth 1 is erased from existence.

Precisely. And he's dick because that? God forbid some universes aren't perfect...

Originally posted by Draco69
Stuck in the past? Whaddya talking about? He broke the barrier to the DC Universe and had no problem saving Power-Girl's ass from the Society. He obviously can come and go in and out of the DC Earth AND is currently residing in the FoS.




Which is precisely my point. Hopefully Power-Girl won't be blinded by her past connections to her "family"

And didn't anyone else think Phil Jiminez drew a HORRIBLE Power-Girl? Good Lord. Her shoulders looked so bizarre...

I think you are completely misunderstanding me..I mean he's mentally stuck in the past and doesn't want to accept the grim truth.

Power Girl is way too spunky to just fall in line behind E2 Supes despite what he she may feel for him and Lois. I'm thinking she'll end up on our side.

Then again, I think E2 Supes will end up on our side as well.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
I think you are completely misunderstanding me..I mean he's mentally stuck in the past and doesn't want to accept the grim truth.

Ohhhhhh. Sorry...

I could be wrong but I think you guys are getting the wrong message on what PC Supes was talking about.

I dont think his plans involve Earth-1 or Earth-2.

Rather something bigger.

Originally posted by Draco69
Precisely. And he's dick because that? God forbid some universes aren't perfect...

The point I made before. Superman would normally try to find every way to try and save everyone.

PC Supes just made up his mind for everyone...screw earth 1 cause he doesn't like it. Everyone gets earth 2 whether they like it or not.

Hopefully Batman kryptonites his arrogant ass in issue #3.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
I could be wrong but I think you guys are getting the wrong message on what PC Supes was talking about.

I dont think his plans involve Earth-1 or Earth-2.

Rather something bigger.
I agree. Above all, this is Superman we're talking about it. Mass genocide doesn't fit the bill.

Was Earth 2 Supes affected by Kryptonite?

Yes. With magic of course.

His weakness to Knite and magic was way stronger than current Supes. I guess that was the trade off. More power and more effective weaknesses.

Originally posted by The Ion
I agree. Above all, this is Superman we're talking about it. Mass genocide doesn't fit the bill.

Well he did say" "THIS corrupted and darkened Earth must be forgotten AS OURS was..."

And HIS Earth was wiped from existance....

Early in the issue PC Supes was saying "that he shouldnt have turned his back on them".

I think he blames himself for what is happening.

Originally posted by Draco69
Well he did say" "THIS corrupted and darkened Earth must be forgotten AS OURS was..."

And HIS Earth was wiped from existance....
Perhaps he believes he can change the world without wiping out 6 billion? It's a longshot but I refuse to believe Superman, the original Superman, will be made a villain. If so they'd retcon that shit next year in Crisis 3 after the fans chew them out.

From what martian manhunter is saying, the Key is going to end up being a Major threat this time.

Originally posted by The Ion
Perhaps he believes he can change the world without wiping out 6 billion? It's a longshot but I refuse to believe Superman, the original Superman, will be made a villain. If so they'd retcon that shit next year in Crisis 3 after the fans chew them out.

Eh. They don't fear the fans. You know that. DC is the biggest risk taker in the comic book market.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Early in the issue PC Supes was saying "that he shouldnt have turned his back on them".

I think he blames himself for what is happening.

He blames himself for EVERYTHING. Swear to god if a kitten died in a submarine in North Atlantic Trench, he'd blame himself for it.

Originally posted by Draco69
Eh. They don't fear the fans. You know that. DC is the biggest risk taker in the comic book market.
Bigger than Marvel but who isn't? Marvel is ball less.

But hey, DC did bring back Hal after 10 years of whining from H.E.A.T.

When asked if pruning meant killing off more Golden Age characters, Didio responded "You can never kill enough Golden Age Characters."



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Tell me how great I am. Go ahead, I won't mind.

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I only scan Strange comics, this should show you how much I think this IC thing owns.

Me, a Superman fan? NO!
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Odd enough The Golden age Supes and Pre crisis Superboy are my fav "Supermen". So im getting this Great stuff.

And great work oh mighty Long Pigster!

I kinda wonder if with all these pre crisis returning they will show again the Global Guardians as a definite DC team and Hercules Unbound back on track.

Right now its already great watching Animal Man and Donna again on New Chronos.

And man, Phil is drawing better than ever.

Anything going to happen here that will be permanent? I mean, Wally West being done in - right when a Flash movie is in early prep with Wally West as the Flash. Once that's out, Barry will finally be put away in the public's mind.

Originally posted by The Ion
Jim Lee IC#3 cover

http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/InfiniteCrisis/INCRLeeCv3.jpg



that cover kicks Bat-A$$ leftright

I wonder is This E-2 Superman has the old stength level he used to have. He took out the society of villains in a second while Power Girl was struggling just to survive.

Then he punched through the barrier they were residing in with his fists. I thought that barrier was unbreakable or something.

Originally posted by Dr.Crankenstein
I wonder is This E-2 Superman has the old stength level he used to have. He took out the society of villains in a second while Power Girl was struggling just to survive.

Then he punched through the barrier they were residing in with his fists. I thought that barrier was unbreakable or something.

I hope that he does. It's what puts the SUPER in SUPERMAN.
Superman should be amazing people with ridiculous feats..thats what made him cool back in the day.

February will also see the last issues of Batman: Gotham Nights, Gotham Central and Wonder Woman. Silver Bullet Comics had the news up but I guess it was too early and decided to take it down.

No issue of The Flash solicited but on the plus side we have Devin Grayson's final issue of Nightwing.

wait so WW dies. And LP where u get those scans?

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Originally posted by Draco69
I think they will. They iced Superman they can ice Batman. Way too many allusions and foreshadowings indicating Batman will make the ultimate sacrifice.

No he's going to Arkyham !!!!!!!!

PC Supes wants to erase the current universe and restore his own. Seems fairly straightforward to me...

btw: PSYCHO PIRATE IS BACK! HUZZAH! DANCE AND BE MERRY, THE MENTALLY UNHINGED BUCCANEER IS RESTORED!! BWAHAHAHA!!!

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
That makes 2 of us.. I have a feeling the amped up villain is Darkseid probably renewed and powered up by the Source.

Anyone else notice there are 2 hints of Bruce Waynes death in the last page?

http://img304.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan00318sm.jpg

I have a feeling the amped up villain is Darkseid probably renewed and powered up by the Source.

What makes you say that ? Its funny how none of the New / Old gods have had had any role in the entire build up ? I'd thought Spectre would have gone after Zeus and Highfather after beating the other magical members of the Quintessence ? When was the last time Darksied showed up in any comic ? I think he had a cameo b4 the Gog wars ? Im starting to think it was Cyborg Supes, who 'nuked' the staition. MM did refer to him as a 'suprising threat' in JLA, and IMO he's a real dark horse. The DNA thing is a real give away. Don't forget the DNA test in the Return of Superman. It would be great to see Draksied returned to his 'kicking Anti Monitor's ass' levels again. Psycho Pirates return may also indicate the return of the Anti Monitor, but that would be repetative to say the least. For a min i thought it may be Krona, but he's probably making his 'big return' in that cosmic egg thing that Whirly was on about.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Anyone else notice there are 2 hints of Bruce Waynes death in the last page?

http://img304.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan00318sm.jpg

But i think those images may be from from another reality. You also see a grown up Robin fighting someone with a knife. Maybe that person killed Bruce, and its Robin who gets revenge.

Yeah those are E2 images.

I have no guesses on who the villain is. Didio said Darkseid would play no role in the Crisis.

I think the villain may be Krona.

Originally posted by The Ion
Yeah those are E2 images.

I have no guesses on who the villain is. Didio said Darkseid would play no role in the Crisis.

Whose Didio ?

Editor in Chief of DC

Originally posted by The Ion
Yeah those are E2 images.

I have no guesses on who the villain is. Didio said Darkseid would play no role in the Crisis.

It's obvious that they are E2 images..but out of all things going on...why show batmans death in particular? I find it strange.

In the JLA comics, MM said a small player will become the big threat, and he gave the hint towards 2 people, the Key and Supergirl.

Originally posted by yahman
I have a feeling the amped up villain is Darkseid probably renewed and powered up by the Source.

What makes you say that ? Its funny how none of the New / Old gods have had had any role in the entire build up ? I'd thought Spectre would have gone after Zeus and Highfather after beating the other magical members of the Quintessence ? When was the last time Darksied showed up in any comic ? I think he had a cameo b4 the Gog wars ? Im starting to think it was Cyborg Supes, who 'nuked' the staition. MM did refer to him as a 'suprising threat' in JLA, and IMO he's a real dark horse. The DNA thing is a real give away. Don't forget the DNA test in the Return of Superman. It would be great to see Draksied returned to his 'kicking Anti Monitor's ass' levels again. Psycho Pirates return may also indicate the return of the Anti Monitor, but that would be repetative to say the least. For a min i thought it may be Krona, but he's probably making his 'big return' in that cosmic egg thing that Whirly was on about.

The DNA thing has me convinced that it's now either Cyborg or Supergirl..all they showed was a piece of the red cape and a superman symbol. As in my post above, MM is starting to give hints now.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
It's obvious that they are E2 images..but out of all things going on...why show batmans death in particular? I find it strange.

In the JLA comics, MM said a small player will become the big threat, and he gave the hint towards 2 people, the Key and Supergirl.

But in JLA #121, Raven came to Dawn in the astral plane and said "the being he(Manhunter) told you about has power beyond comprehension. But HE is unready, untrained." "Beware HIM......"

That lets us know that this person may be the one who abducts her in JLA#122. It leaves out Supergirl for sure.

I hope they dont kill batman...I mean why mess with a Trinity member....I dunno I like the idea of a big 7 member dying just not one of the main three....dammit i wish i had the money to buy all this stuff....until then ima go beg long pig to send me them all through pm if he gets them....

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
It's obvious that they are E2 images..but out of all things going on...why show batmans death in particular? I find it strange.

I think that has to do with the fact that E2 Bruce died a long time and that Supes II will be offering our Batman the chance at his life. This is judging from the cover and solicit from issue 3.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
The DNA thing has me convinced that it's now either Cyborg or Supergirl..all they showed was a piece of the red cape and a superman symbol. As in my post above, MM is starting to give hints now. Supergirl is with Donna..?

Originally posted by The Ion
I think that has to do with the fact that E2 Bruce died a long time and that Supes II will be offering our Batman the chance at his life. This is judging from the cover and solicit from issue 3.

It will definitely be interesting to see what that foreshadows. Do you still have that schedule of when the issues come out?

Originally posted by Juntai
Supergirl is with Donna..?

As soon as Supergirl showed up, MM gave a message to Dawn) that the dangerous person was nearby. It also happened to be that the Key was nearby.

*Edit* Jrod..looking at that prior issue, you are right. Maybe he did just mean the Key.
Still, does it sound inplausible that Supergirl or Borg destroyed the fortress?

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
It will definitely be interesting to see what that foreshadows. Do you still have that schedule of when the issues come out?
Yup.

#3 on 12/15/05
#4 on 01/11/05
#5 on 02/15/05

March starts the One Year Later stuff so I'm sure things will get real interesting real soon.

Originally posted by The Ion
Yup.

#3 on 12/15/05
#4 on 01/11/05
#5 on 02/15/05

March starts the One Year Later stuff so I'm sure things will get real interesting real soon.

A day before my bday...that dc is just so thoughtful!

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
As soon as Supergirl showed up, MM gave a message to Dawn) that the dangerous person was nearby. It also happened to be that the Key was nearby.

*Edit* Jrod..looking at that prior issue, you are right. Maybe he did just mean the Key.
Still, does it sound inplausible that Supergirl or Borg destroyed the fortress?

Borg has pr-oven that he can definitely replicate Superman s DNA. Was there a reference to the DNA by the watch tower computer, before the person in question arrived? If so i thinks its a real hint in the direction of Borg. All information concerning the Return of Superman, always makes a big deal about Henshaw copying Supes DNA. In knowledge of this i think it highly unlikely to be Super girl. I doubt the most sophisticated tech in all the universe would be unable to tell the difference between Superman and his FEMALE cousin. (Y chromosome hint, hint ! :rolleyes. Is the key the guy who was used by Neron after the Asmodel incident ? I'll be disappointed if he's the 'main' bad guy ? Borg and the Key would be good for your above average JLA incident, but for something this big they seem a bit of a 'anti climax' . I'd be much happier, with a Imperiex, Darksied or even the return of the Anti Monitor. Oh well you can't have everything.

All the monitor shows is the Superman insignia, which both Supergirl and Superman use. Still Jrod was right, MM did say "He" in another issue. Reading the whole issue again, BORG is the likely suspect...especially since he hasn't been seen.

Here is a scan of that final page.
http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/2372/jla1192cr.th.jpg

I just thought of something. Maybe it was E-2 Superman saving MM from the Watchtower exploding. I know that the issue came out before E-2 Superman broke out of the barrier in IC #1. But AOS #645 came out after IC #1 also but the end of AOS #645 says to be continued in IC #1.

You guys follow what I am saying.

The thing is that MM seemed like he knew who he was.
Did MM know about the crisis and the prior supes?

Not exactly. People remember a cosmic Crisis but the Infinite Earths part of the story was forgotten.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
The thing is that MM seemed like he knew who he was.
Did MM know about the crisis and the prior supes? That is the tricky part.

can someone tell me who Borg is? Pic or something.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
All the monitor shows is the Superman insignia, which both Supergirl and Superman use. Still Jrod was right, MM did say "He" in another issue. Reading the whole issue again, BORG is the likely suspect...especially since he hasn't been seen.

Here is a scan of that final page.
http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/2372/jla1192cr.th.jpg

I'm so certain its Borg !!!!!!!!!!! Heat vision is rarely used over such a large Target are as the Watch Tower (except that one time, it was used to heat the entire earth). Hen shaw is always using that massive gun thing of his. That would be well capable of causing the damage, inflicted upon the Tower. I don't think he's the 'main villan' though, he's more than likely to be an Avatar for someone. I haven't read the first crisis, but wasn't Psycho pirate an Avatar for Anti Monitor ? Another reason i don't think he is the main culprit, is due to his power level. Although he is more powerful than Post Crisis Supes, Superman has been able to nearly kill him on a few occasions. If Earth 1 superman is anywhere near as powerful as he once was, this Crisis will be over more quickly than a Brian Bendis action sequence.

Certainly. Cyborg Superman, if it was him, is probably just the flunkie.

Originally posted by jrodslam
can someone tell me who Borg is? Pic or something.

Here you go. Cyborg masquerading as Supes.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/avalonofthewind/cyberthrow.jpg

Ohhhh Cyborg. I though Borg was another character yall was talking about. I knew that.

*dissapears in the shadows*

This is moving pretty slow so far. Very much like HoM. But, it's good.

I like the fact that E2 Superman might be somewhat of a villain in the story, that's cool.

He's on the whole "Save lois....by any means" deal. Should be cool.

Originally posted by long pig
This is moving pretty slow so far. Very much like HoM. But, it's good.

I like the fact that E2 Superman might be somewhat of a villain in the story, that's cool.

He's on the whole "Save lois....by any means" deal. Should be cool.

At least its building tension, HOM wasn't exactly suspenseful, was it ? If had just been about the X-men and mutants, it would have made little, to no difference to the plot. This event is on a 'totally' grander scale. Nearly every page has something pulse racing on it. I mean how badass was Joker's little cameo ? The return of the Pre Crisis characters was just as good. What about the society's decision to turn on Black Adam ? Mann that is going to be a heck of a fight !!!!!!!!!! Bizarro, Zoom, Grundy and co vs Teth Adamdroolio. And then there's Post Crisis Supes vs Pre Crisis !!!!!! droolio I just wish all of DC's big guns where involved. It would be good to see some New Gods, Ares Trigon, Mordru,Doomsday,Neron and co.

Black Adam has become very powerful. I bet he beats the crap out of the Society.

What i think IC has that HoM didn't is unpredictability. I don't know about everyone else, but i really don't know how IC is going to end. And there are tons of possibilities. With HoM they released a bloody list of possible things that were gonna happen cause of the story, and it was downright obvious what was gonna happen. So that really hurt it.

ON that note, what are peoples theories on what's gonna happen in IC? Will the DCU go all "Golden Age" age again, or might things actually get darker?

Things will get lighter, just not Golden Age "Golly Gee Whiz!" light. I'm thinking mid to late ninties style.

teth is gonna be sooo pissed off to see them betray him....but one thing i didnt get tho, whats the deal with Booster Gold? cuz we all remeber how he defiantly threw down his goggles, and declared that not only is he quitting the superhero biz he's returning to his own time, not only that we also know for a fact that way back in the day skeets was captured by Checkmate and its parts reverse engineered....then all of a sudden we see him in #2 not only with skeets but with what seems to be is ORIGINAL COSTUME speaking in a context that would denote that this is his first time coming back from the 25th century WTF is that all about? i cant wait to ask my comic guy

all points look to the cyborg but i still have a feeling that they would have shown him in the buildup if even from a " he's working on an evil machination from behind the scences thing." cuz think about who has already got thier chance to shine and be the major villanous figure in the build up

not in any particular order

that guy in superman who became the new "black rock" guy(he killed the old man and took the gem from him...the one luthor had bizzaro retrieve from the sun's orbit)

Eclipso tryin to possess shazam by possessing superman

Atom's wife as Eclipso trying to manipulate the spectre

Indigo from the outsiders actually turning out to be brainiac's grandaughter

Ruin and the new parasites tormenting the hell out of superman

parralax trying and failing miserably

and lets not forget the top who was running around,,un-mindwiping everybody the league and even he himself mind wiped previously

the only villain who has tried and done anything meaningful is luthor, from forming the secret six to mind controlling superboy but we still dont know wher that other luthor came from, and we still dont know how the heck he ended up in anarctica at the general vicinty where alex luthor built a makeshift fortress. the point is all the major players in this crisis at least have made an appreance, so i wouldnt be too surprised if the cyborg doesnt have anything to do with it.

Originally posted by manjaro
all points look to the cyborg but i still have a feeling that they would have shown him in the buildup if even from a " he's working on an evil machination from behind the scences thing." cuz think about who has already got thier chance to shine and be the major villanous figure in the build up

not in any particular order

that guy in superman who became the new "black rock" guy(he killed the old man and took the gem from him...the one luthor had bizzaro retrieve from the sun's orbit)

Eclipso tryin to possess shazam by possessing superman

Atom's wife as Eclipso trying to manipulate the spectre

Indigo from the outsiders actually turning out to be brainiac's grandaughter

Ruin and the new parasites tormenting the hell out of superman

parralax trying and failing miserably

and lets not forget the top who was running around,,un-mindwiping everybody the league and even he himself mind wiped previously

the only villain who has tried and done anything meaningful is luthor, from forming the secret six to mind controlling superboy but we still dont know wher that other luthor came from, and we still dont know how the heck he ended up in anarctica at the general vicinty where alex luthor built a makeshift fortress. the point is all the major players in this crisis at least have made an appreance, so i wouldnt be too surprised if the cyborg doesnt have anything to do with it. I thought that the luthor in antarctica was the original postcrisis one, as he is the one in the armoured suit (see VU#6)

Originally posted by manjaro
all points look to the cyborg but i still have a feeling that they would have shown him in the buildup if even from a " he's working on an evil machination from behind the scences thing." cuz think about who has already got thier chance to shine and be the major villanous figure in the build up

not in any particular order

that guy in superman who became the new "black rock" guy(he killed the old man and took the gem from him...the one luthor had bizzaro retrieve from the sun's orbit)

Eclipso tryin to possess shazam by possessing superman

Atom's wife as Eclipso trying to manipulate the spectre

Indigo from the outsiders actually turning out to be brainiac's grandaughter

Ruin and the new parasites tormenting the hell out of superman

parralax trying and failing miserably

and lets not forget the top who was running around,,un-mindwiping everybody the league and even he himself mind wiped previously

the only villain who has tried and done anything meaningful is luthor, from forming the secret six to mind controlling superboy but we still dont know wher that other luthor came from, and we still dont know how the heck he ended up in anarctica at the general vicinty where alex luthor built a makeshift fortress. the point is all the major players in this crisis at least have made an appreance, so i wouldnt be too surprised if the cyborg doesnt have anything to do with it.

Something else I just remembered, Mongul was Cyborgs flunkie and he just happened to be at the site of the watchtower after it was destroyed...

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Something else I just remembered, Mongul was Cyborgs flunkie and he just happened to be at the site of the watchtower after it was destroyed...

I was thinking this yesterday, but i didn't have time to get online, note that this isn't the original Mongul though ! Mangaro, you have a point about everyone already making thier 'day bu's', but it has to be someone, and all evidence points at Cyborg Superman. The thought of a rematch between Hal and Henshaw. droolio.

Question; Who is the key ?

He must have some role to play, as MM mentioned a powerful psychic, and the Borg isn't psychic !

my rememberance on the key is skecthy at best, i cant recall when i personally saw him in a comic last, but his powers were basically that he can break into anything, no matter what , no matter how(the same way scott free can break out of any trap). he also have displayed teleportational, and intangibility effects. hence him being the key-the one thing that slips me tho is if his powers were natural or if he used equipment, cuz a lot of charcaters from the jack kirby days(IDk if it was he who created him, but he's from that era) used equipment.

about pre crsis luthors tho, all were destroyed...

Luthor from the earth that was later retconned to the anti matter universe, Earth 3 . he was the only hero..he died.

luthor from earth 1, was killed....brainiac had put together a consortium of villains to battle the antimonitor....and defeat the already weakened monitor to sieze the enitre universe for themselves, brainiac an "our" luthor were the head of all this and, earth 1 lutHor was like, im just as smart as him why cant i be up there running things too...brainiac was like...then we dont need two of you...ZAZAZPPP!!(this version was obviously retconned tho)

the POSt crisis luthor however is the one we have today. after his body died from kryptonite poisining, he put his brain in that red headed clone remember? then that body wore out as well but he sold his soul to Neron for a full restoration, to be back to his original state(rich, bald, and young looking)

the luthor that wore the armor is the one who formed the Legion of Doom(precrisis) after the re-boot anybody who didnt die was wiped from existencwe anyway, so him weraing the armor now as far as "history" is concerned this is his frist time..cus he had gotten it from darksied., but we know that "he" is the original luthor cuz he was hiding out in his submarine the whole time...what we dont know is where the villains united luthor came from, and armored luthor eneed up in anactrica after his run in worh supes and ruin at the daily planet. so here is how it breaks down

the only ppl who survived the crsis were:

powergirl
pariah
superman-2
lois lane-2
psycho pirate
harbinger(already dead)
superboy-prime
lady quark
alex luthor
how the others survived without the ability to create a pocket dimension i dont know, but the original mad scientist luthor was good and dead, so DC has some clever explaining to do

dont forget all of the heroes who were fighting the antimonitor before the big bang, who still remember the multiverse because they were not as effected by the universal rebirth as they were outside of it at the time (including earth1 superman), although most of those heroes disappeared soon after and were retconned out of existance.

THe New Gods remember the multiverse, so I think darkseid would do as well. Its because of this that I think darkseid will appear as soon as he hears of the return of alex luthor and kal-L.

THe spectre remembers the multiverse, and has been aware for a while of alternate earths, so it makes sense that current hal jordan would remember it as well.

Postcrisis Linda Danvers Remembers the multiverse, as she lived on earth-1 for a few years a supergirl, married to earth-1 superman.

Rip Hunter is aware of both the multiverse and hypertime, and keeps them secret from the linear men.

Since the new gods are aware of the multiverse, it makes sense that all other beings effected by the godwave would remember it also (as long as they were effected by the godwave BEFORE the universal rebirth in COIE)

All biblical beings (angels, archangels) and the endless and most gods are aware of the COIE and the multiverse.

The planet Oa was largely uneffected by the COIE, as there was only one Oa throughout the time of the multiverse (something to do with it being at the centre of each positive-matter universe), so the guardians remember it (well, ganthet does at least).

Jordan forgot basically everything from his time as The Spectre. He doesn't remember the multiverse.

Originally posted by The Ion
Jordan forgot basically everything from his time as The Spectre. He doesn't remember the multiverse. Where did you read that??

Hal said it himself in one of the GL issues.

i must have missed that. which issue was it?

Spectre is not only aware of the multiverse, he watches over them all, and does his task in all of them at once, projecting pieces of himself to the various worlds and dimensions of the multiverse.

yes darkdied remebers, cuz he even helped out. he created some super duper sophistcated macine that tapped into alex luthor's pyshe so he could see thru his eyes. then he opened apertures thru his eyes and sent a wave of powerful energy thru them to zap the antnimonitro with. then AM got desperate and started to absorb his own universe for added power,, then superboy started to go apeshit, then when supergirl dies Supes-2 really went apeshit...so yes as the new gods and apokolpis exist in the fourth world the werent affect in any way.

darkie played a big part in defeating the anti-monitor, so I really think that he will show up once he hears of the return of precrisis earth2 supes and earth3 alexluthor

Originally posted by eleveninches
darkie played a big part in defeating the anti-monitor, so I really think that he will show up once he hears of the return of precrisis earth2 supes and earth3 alexluthor

The guys whose written it says he wo't make an apperance, according to Ion any way.

No, according to Dan DiDio.

Updated cover for IC#4:

(note the golden arms)
Could this be alex luthor that donna and her space-crew are fighting

Originally posted by eleveninches
dont forget all of the heroes who were fighting the antimonitor before the big bang, who still remember the multiverse because they were not as effected by the universal rebirth as they were outside of it at the time (including earth1 superman), although most of those heroes disappeared soon after and were retconned out of existance.

THe New Gods remember the multiverse, so I think darkseid would do as well. Its because of this that I think darkseid will appear as soon as he hears of the return of alex luthor and kal-L.

THe spectre remembers the multiverse, and has been aware for a while of alternate earths, so it makes sense that current hal jordan would remember it as well.

Postcrisis Linda Danvers Remembers the multiverse, as she lived on earth-1 for a few years a supergirl, married to earth-1 superman.

Rip Hunter is aware of both the multiverse and hypertime, and keeps them secret from the linear men.

Since the new gods are aware of the multiverse, it makes sense that all other beings effected by the godwave would remember it also (as long as they were effected by the godwave BEFORE the universal rebirth in COIE)

All biblical beings (angels, archangels) and the endless and most gods are aware of the COIE and the multiverse.

The planet Oa was largely uneffected by the COIE, as there was only one Oa throughout the time of the multiverse (something to do with it being at the centre of each positive-matter universe), so the guardians remember it (well, ganthet does at least). Also, Barry Allen remembers the multiverse, as he died before the crisis. In the first story arc of the current green arrow run (the one where ollie leaves heaven), hal is showing wally around heaven, and they meet up with barry allen who mentions something about the crisis.


I read the TPB "the kingdom" a while ago, and I am sure that the epilogue features the E2 superman. It starts a few pages after the introduction of hypertime (the hypertime page actually shows pictures of images from pre-crisis comics). He looks like superman, but with the E2 S-shielsd, and grey hair. It also talks about him being in a prison and wanting to escape

I think even batman remembers the crisis. I think it was in the "war of the gods" storyline (the one where the greek gods leave olympus and are replaced by their offspring, the roman gods), that a wave of energy appeared that looked frighteningly similar to the COIE anti-matter energy wave. Robin remarked "I've never seen anthing like that", and batman replied "I have".

to solidify barry allen knowing about it. in the flash series from 2002. wally was all bummed out that everyone knew his secret now, cuz for the first time his ID as flash put his family in danger, especially after the new zoom gave his girl a miscarriage, so he went to barry allens statue to talk about stuff--to the statye--yeah i know its crazy, then boom barry allen came out of the speed force to councel him. he gave him a few words of encouragement then he mentioned that he had to go back to the fututre(wallys past) in order to give his life in a "crisis" at which point hal-spectre showed up(his statue was right next to barrys) then wally asked him to wipe everyone's mind, and every record of his ID as flash, then boom spectre did it, and as a result nobody remebered who he was out of costume, and they didnt know who barry allen was either, cuz it was as if he never revealed his ID, so needless to say spectre knows, and wally has a slight idea

Everyone remembers a cosmic Crisis. It's the infinite earths part they forgot.

psycho pirate remembers. apparently, one of the writers for DC was at a comic-book-convention, and he said something about every crisis having to have a psycho pirate and a dead flash. that didnt go down too well with the fans that were there

I think that DC has been planning this all for a while. Ever since as far back as the epilogue to the final isssue of 'the kingdom' (introduction of hypertime leading into an appearence by E2 superman).

There have been hints to an upcoming crisis since before identity crisis. Per Degaton mentionned a crisis to the JSA, and said he knew what was coming. The titans of myth were so scared of it that they wanted to escape the universe

Originally posted by eleveninches
I think that DC has been planning this all for a while. Ever since as far back as the epilogue to the final isssue of 'the kingdom' (introduction of hypertime leading into an appearence by E2 superman).

There have been hints to an upcoming crisis since before identity crisis. Per Degaton mentionned a crisis to the JSA, and said he knew what was coming. The titans of myth were so scared of it that they wanted to escape the universe Mxyz also told Superman.
Lex also said it was coming.

This is actually. . . quite well YEARS of plotting.
This is easily one of the best comic plotlines ever introduced.
I've got the entire crisis so far, every OMAC attack or sighting and everything.. it's easily over 100 books strong already.


Max Lord as the head of Checkmate for example and his years of wearing down Superman's mind. . . goes all the way back to 1991 when he helped make the new JLA, and a few times was a villain that the heros never figured out. He wasn't lying when he said it took years to break down Superman's mind... try 14 or so years.

But i dont know WHAT they've been building up to. I think it'll be one of the following:

1.Introduction of Earth 2
2.Introduction of the new multiverse
3.Retcon to show that the multiverse still existed after COIE, but was kept secret
4.Postcrisis DC is based around E2 rather than E1

Lex has claimed that he is from another earth. Pariah also claimed that there are still other earths, so the multiverse must still exist

Anyone know if Infinite Crisis 3 is late?
I thought it was coming out on the 15th...

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Anyone know if Infinite Crisis 3 is late?
I thought it was coming out on the 15th...
Got delayed til the 28th then pushed up to the 21st so next week.

Originally posted by The Ion
Got delayed til the 28th then pushed up to the 21st so next week.