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what is more powerfull? death star or Star forge?

This has been done. If in range, the deathstar. If not, then probably the deathstar still. If the SF is galaxy away and churning out ships against the DS, then probably the SF.

The DS is the size of a small moon, it can hold a helluva lot of ships too. It also has a crapload of turrets.

Not sure of that, most of the space is either
A) Housing for the laser
or
B) Navigation and whatnot.

Notice in ANH the TINY amount (for a hugeass and expensive station) of ships that came out. In ROTJ the DS's support fleet provided fire support.

Death Star, for above reasons.

That, and it's mobile and presumably quite immune to capital ships. (The Executor literally crashed into the unfinished ROTJ version and didn't do much in the way of crippling it.)

INdeed. This is imbalanced because the Death Star is technically a vessel capable of firing and the Star Forge is a channeling device for the Force and a shipyard.

Originally posted by jollyjim311
The DS is the size of a small moon, it can hold a helluva lot of ships too. It also has a crapload of turrets.
Even though the Death Star may hold many ships, the Star Forge can make them. But, I still side with the Death Star.

The Death Star is a "technological terror" to quote Vader. It's designed to cow systems to step in line with the Empire.

However, you only the strongest can control the SF. So someone like Tarkin who controlled the DS couldn't take it over. Plus, you can control a galaxy with the SF, rather than the DS.

but in a strate fight Ds would win

Why bother making a thread if it's a battle between the two? SF is a factory, DS is a battlestation. They both have different purposes.

Originally posted by Gryn Jabar
Not sure of that, most of the space is either
A) Housing for the laser
or
B) Navigation and whatnot.

Notice in ANH the TINY amount (for a hugeass and expensive station) of ships that came out. In ROTJ the DS's support fleet provided fire support.
If you noticed about ANH they didn't have good enough tech. to make it appear to be a lot of ships but in ROTJ thousands came out from the DeathStar

Is the tech different at ALL? I thougt in ROTJ it was the ships NEAR the deathstar. 4 years isn't alot of time to completely redesign the deathstar. If you'r talking about RL however, then yeah, that explanation is probably right.

Never mind... Turns out the DS can:
"It also carried assault shuttles, Skipray Blastboats, strike cruisers, drop ships, land vehicles, and support ships as well as 7,200 TIE fighters. For surface protection it sported 200 Turbolaser batteries, 2,500 ion cannons and at least 700 tractor beam projectors, plus, of course, the superlaser. Even without the primary weapon, the Death Star carried enough troops and ships to occupy an entire star system by force."
WIKIPEDIA

the death star ans star forge were built for 2 different purposes. This thread is quite purposeless. In a straight fight of course the death star because the star forge doesn't have any offensive weapons. it is a factory, the death star is a weapon.

O Christ, THIS again!....

The Death Star is that size for 1.) Terror, 2.) Housing for the Mainreactor, and 3.) The Superlaser.

The Death Star, if out of range of the SF's "shielding" would destroy the Star Forge without suffering a scratch.

If within the "shielding," then the Star Foge would still be wasted.

Since we can only go by what is shown in KOTOR, we can only assume that since it took at minimum, Two Minutes for the "shielding" to take effect on the Ebon Hawk, at THAT close range, then the Death Star(which is HOW MANY times bigger than the Ebon?) can certainly destroy the Star Forge without exerting its power supply, and may (JUST MAY) have time enough to take out Rakata.

If this was a thread however, that stated the Star Foge already had a fleet guarding it, while the Death Star DIDN'T, then I'd say BOTH are scrap.

If you want a quick battle, and without starships, then the DS will win.

Whowever, using starhips both will be scrap, since DS can destroy the SF with a single laser, but SF will have many more ships than DS, so it will destroy DS, and its fleet.

If you are not talking of a quick battle, but of a war with time to plan out things, the SF will win since you will have a incredibly strong army, and even if you were able to locate, and destroy the SF you would still have enough ships to conquer the galaxy, and destroy the DS.

If I were a Sith Lord and I had the option to choose between a weapon, I would choose SF.

How will the Star Forges fleet destroy the Death Star? They don't know of it's weak spot, The Imperials don't even know about it (well, not until it is too late). Even if they did, which they don't, they probably wouldn't be able to get a good shot at it, well maybe (assuming that they could get near it) if Bastilla used her battle meditation, but does the SF have Bastilla? Do the ships that the SF produce have Proton Torpedos?

If this is the second death star, then that star forge is going down, and HARD. The first death star is the only one that has a chance of going down, and that's only if the SF knows EXACTLY where the opening was, and prepared for it.

There is no prep mentioned, that means that they don't know about it's weakness (let me mention it now because someone might bring it up, mind reading wouldn't help, because the Imperials don't know about the weakness either). Even with Bastilas battle meditation, the Star Fprge will take one hit and Bastilla, along with everyone else on the Star Forge, will be dead.

In the same way they did with the 2th DS, even the rebels were able to destroy it with a less powerful fleet after the shields were down, with a more powerful fleet it would be a lot easier to do that. The problem is just to get DS shields down, something that rebels again were able to do with less forces sabotaging the base at Endor, that will be easier to do with a more powerful army that SF will provide you.

Well, let me remind you, there was a gaping hole in the side of the 2nd Death Star.

Originally posted by Gryn Jabar
Never mind... Turns out the DS can:
"It also carried assault shuttles, Skipray Blastboats, strike cruisers, drop ships, land vehicles, and support ships as well as 7,200 TIE fighters. For surface protection it sported 200 Turbolaser batteries, 2,500 ion cannons and at least 700 tractor beam projectors, plus, of course, the superlaser. Even without the primary weapon, the Death Star carried enough troops and ships to occupy an entire star system by force."
WIKIPEDIA

First we need to know which Death Star this is, since there were five in all; seven if we include the Tarkin and the Darksaber.

This is partially true, assuming it's for the DS2. (I have no clue where 200 turbolasers came from though) The problem is that it is for the unscaled version of the Death Star Two. When using a reference from the movie(therefor higher level of canon, we can see the stats you state are a little low.

If the Death Star had been completed and filled to capacity, it would have looked more like the following:

Note: This assumes a direct scale-up by mass. Numbers for Ion canons, turbolasers, and Tractor Beams are several times larger than actual.

Skipray Blastboats: ~3,000,000
Tie Fighters: 10,581,840
Capital Ships: 5,876
Ion Canons: 3,672,500
Turbolasers: ~13,000,000

I think we've all settled that the Death Star could sufficiently whoop the SF. All we're doing now is arguing sources and canon, and in all honesty, that bores the shit out of me.

Originally posted by Gryn Jabar
I think we've all settled that the Death Star could sufficiently whoop the SF. All we're doing now is arguing sources and canon, and in all honesty, that bores the shit out of me.

Then just don't look at this thread.