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Juggernaut did good one on one against people who lift 100tons or more but what about 6 people at the same time who lift 100 tons or more




Colossus
Death's Head II
Current She Hulk
WonderMan
Abomination
Atlas

all of them make great weapons for juggernaut to use against each other.

Yea. Basically.

Your telling me and take into consideration Juggernaut's one of my favorite characters but if these 6 people surrounded him and just started to attack he could beat him pretty easy?

Originally posted by golem370
Your telling me and take into consideration Juggernaut's one of my favorite characters but if these 6 people surrounded him and just started to attack he could beat him pretty easy?

That's exactly what we're telling you. Sure, they knock him around a bit. I mean, he only weighs 900 lbs. But he will pretty much have the upper hand the entire fight. Being, ya know, invulnerable and all.

The fight will last about a day, but Juggy will definitely come out on top.

Ok what if I add Iron Man,Thor/No hammer Rhino and Sasquatch? Just trying to see how tought he is.

Originally posted by golem370
Ok what if I add Iron Man,Thor/No hammer Rhino and Sasquatch? Just trying to see how tought he is.

then the amount of time it takes for juggernaut to win increases. ironman and colossus make great metal gloves.

juggernaut takes craps that are more durable than these guys. except thor, hes the last to die.

Yep. Jirk's right on the ball with this one.

Colossus is not class 100. I think at last count he was around 85 or 90.

Sorry, Sam. Colossus is indeed Class 100. You're referring to several years ago, my friend. Like...either very early nineties or late eighties actually.

Colossus has been Class 100 for some time now.

juggernaut curbstomps the lot of them!

The fight would go on unless the others die or Juggy kills them. No-one who can't get into his head or isn't able to use magic of sorts has absolutely no chance to beat Juggernaut. Just try to get it, it would just go on and on.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Sorry, Sam. Colossus is indeed Class 100. You're referring to several years ago, my friend. Like...either very early nineties or late eighties actually.

Colossus has been Class 100 for some time now.

Not according to latest X-men Handbook, which says he can lift 85 tons !

Have you seen him lift more than 100 tons ?

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
Not according to latest X-men Handbook, which says he can lift 85 tons !

Have you seen him lift more than 100 tons ?

The handbook is RETARTED!!!!!!!!!!!

It says he is class 85 but then in his bio it says he also can lift several thousand tons....... same handbook too........

Originally posted by thesilverspider
The handbook is RETARTED!!!!!!!!!!!

It says he is class 85 but then in his bio it says he alos can lift several thousand tons.......

Wrong Hand book my friend. You are referring to the Ultimate Handbook. They didn't say he could lift 85 tons, but he was stated as having level 6 strength.

The numerical values associated with the different levels should be ignored as they are now generally ignored by theHanbook creators of the Handbooks.

The X-men handbook clearly stated Colossus could lift only 85 tons.

The 2005 handbook doesn't give him a "Class XX". It just says Level 6 strength.

Originally posted by The Ion
The 2005 handbook doesn't give him a "Class XX". It just says Level 6 strength.


Im sure it gives him level 6 and then says he can lift 85 tons ! The numerical values associated with the level system have been completely ignored for the first of the A - Z's. IMO this is a good thing as they were becoming increasingly innacurate !

Level 6 no longer means 75 - 100 tons !

"Sorry, Sam. Colossus is indeed Class 100. You're referring to several years ago, my friend. Like...either very early nineties or late eighties actually.

Colossus has been Class 100 for some time now."

If by class 100 you mean the same class of strenght where guys like Herc, Hulk and Thor are then no he isent.

If you mean class 100 as able to lift hundred of tons then he can. Even Cl 90 and slighty less all do that.

Originally posted by olympian
"Sorry, Sam. Colossus is indeed Class 100. You're referring to several years ago, my friend. Like...either very early nineties or late eighties actually.

Colossus has been Class 100 for some time now."

If by class 100 you mean the same class of strenght where guys like Herc, Hulk and Thor are then no he isent.

If you mean class 100 as able to lift hundred of tons then he can. Even Cl 90 and slighty less all do that.

Infact most Class 50's can !

Vision weighs 90 tons
Rogue has lifted planes weighing 100 's of tons
Akethma threw Vision with one hand.

There's no mention of 85 tons unless I'm completely blowing over something.

http://img318.imageshack.us/img318/39/05streetsamuraidcp128am.th.jpg http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/3671/05streetsamuraidcp131kt.th.jpg

Originally posted by The Ion
There's no mention of 85 tons unless I'm completely blowing over something.

http://img318.imageshack.us/img318/39/05streetsamuraidcp128am.th.jpg http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/3671/05streetsamuraidcp131kt.th.jpg

Ooopps .... I know i read it somewhere, it may have been the House of M, or the Age of Acocalypse one ! Any way even the 'exact' strength levels are not that accurate. They said that Namor can lift a 100 tons in water. He has regularly shown he can lift thousands of tons, inside and out of water.

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
Infact most Class 50's can !

Vision weighs 90 tons
Rogue has lifted planes weighing 100 's of tons
Akethma threw Vision with one hand.

If needs to be taken notice of !!!!!!!!!

Oh I know you're talking about. The Secrets of House of M handbook. Yeah, that one definitely specifies him at Class 85.

"Infact most Class 50's can !

Vision weighs 90 tons
Rogue has lifted planes weighing 100 's of tons
Akethma threw Vision with one hand."


Exactly. Thats why the marvel old system is crap. 100 tons dont mean = top tier.

Not when guys that are weaker in relation with those can do it.

Originally posted by olympian
"Infact most Class 50's can !

Vision weighs 90 tons
Rogue has lifted planes weighing 100 's of tons
Akethma threw Vision with one hand."


Exactly. Thats why the marvel old system is crap. 100 tons dont mean = top tier.

Not when guys that are weaker in relation with those can do it.

The new Level system is a far more accurate guide, you just have to ignore the numerical values.


E.G. Most Level 6 characters can lift thousands of tons, but the Handbook lists Level 6 characters, as being able to lift between 75 - 100 tons. This is more like the strength range for level 5. Level 7 characters, i.e the old Class 100, can pretty much lift whatever the story needs them to lift. Such scenarios are rare for Marvel, which is why i believe that D.C. characters are a lot stronger !

Meh! handbooks say Sasquatach is 75tons, yet he has greatly shown he is way more than that.

"which is why i believe that D.C. characters are a lot stronger"

If wer going by handbooks yes they are.

But since i go by comics, they arent. Theyr comparable for the most part. There are exceptions of course.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Meh! handbooks say Sasquatach is 75tons, yet he has greatly shown he is way more than that.

Thats my point !!!!!!!!!!! He listed as Level 6 which means he can probaly lift Kilo tons of mass !

Originally posted by olympian
"which is why i believe that D.C. characters are a lot stronger"

If wer going by handbooks yes they are.

But since i go by comics, they arent. Theyr comparable for the most part. There are exceptions of course.


No they are not !!!!!!!!!

The Hulk lifts Tanks, Superman spins mountains on his finger tips !

Show me Superman spinning a mountain with his finger tips in continuity.

Originally posted by olympian
Show me Superman spinning a mountain with his finger tips in continuity.

I don't have pics, but i have been told he can do it from a realiable source !

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
Thats my point !!!!!!!!!!! He listed as Level 6 which means he can probaly lift Kilo tons of mass !

1. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/Sasplane1.jpg
2. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/UncannyX-Men120b.jpg

1. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/Two-in-One084_12.jpg
2. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/Two-in-One084_13.jpg

1. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/Hulk_Annual_1979_008_11.jpg

75 tons my ass

"I don't have pics, but i have been told he can do it from a realiable source !"


Bush administration does it again huh

Originally posted by King_Mungi
1. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/Sasplane1.jpg
2. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/UncannyX-Men120b.jpg

1. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/Two-in-One084_12.jpg
2. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/Two-in-One084_13.jpg

1. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/Hulk_Annual_1979_008_11.jpg

75 tons my ass

Exactly !!!!!!!

He's level 6 !

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
Exactly !!!!!!!

He's level 6 !

Well the thing with that is he has lifted much more than the 75-100 ton mark, I hate the handbooks and just go by feats to determine one's strength.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Well the thing with that is he has lifted much more than the 75-100 ton mark, I hate the handbooks and just go by feats to determine one's strength.

Exactly what i've been trying to say .... Level 6 no longer means '75-100 ton mark' !

Colossus-In in his armored form, Colossus possesses superhuman strength. As a teenager, he was able to lift (press) 70 tons. Now, as a fully grown man, Colossus' strength has proven to be even greater, however the upper limits of his strength are unknown. His steel form also possesses a high degree of invulnerability to conventional injury. Colossus' armored form can withstand falls from great heights, extreme temperatures of both hot and cold, high caliber machine gun shells, and large amounts of explosives without sustaining injury

Originally posted by golem370
Colossus-In in his armored form, Colossus possesses superhuman strength. As a teenager, he was able to lift (press) 70 tons. Now, as a fully grown man, Colossus' strength has proven to be even greater, however the upper limits of his strength are unknown. His steel form also possesses a high degree of invulnerability to conventional injury. Colossus' armored form can withstand falls from great heights, extreme temperatures of both hot and cold, high caliber machine gun shells, and large amounts of explosives without sustaining injury

No more Bios Golem !

I was just showing that infact Colossus is above 70tons now.

Originally posted by sam_drugbringer
Colossus is not class 100. I think at last count he was around 85 or 90.

Even if that's true, he's "unstoppable". He'd merely have to will his arms unstoppable until they reached their extension limit and he'd be able to lift almost anything.

Anyway, classic Juggs was nearly invincible("Nearly" as in mental attacks. As we all know, psionic attacks : Juggernaut :: Magic : Superman.) so while this team of heavy-hitters can do a lot of damage to someone like the Hulk who feels physical attacks. But even Iron Man doesn't have anything to handle Juggernaut.

And he has armor to deal with the Hulk and Thor.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Sorry, Sam. Colossus is indeed Class 100. You're referring to several years ago, my friend. Like...either very early nineties or late eighties actually.

Colossus has been Class 100 for some time now.













Here we go....

Originally posted by JirK
all of them make great weapons for juggernaut to use against each other.
lmao

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
Exactly !!!!!!!

He's level 6 ! Actually Sasquatch is level 5 according to the X-men encyclopedia.

Here is the bio from the HOM handbook. It says Colossus can lift 85 tons. So do people accept this as being cannon?

Originally posted by JirK
all of them make great weapons for juggernaut to use against each other.

It's funny because it's true.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Actually Sasquatch is level 5 according to the X-men encyclopedia.

Yep I call bull, he even went against Box who is 85 tons and they stated Box wasn't as strong as him

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Yep I call bull, he even went against Box who is 85 tons and they stated Box wasn't as strong as him It says Box can lift 40 tons. So yea Sasquatch is stronger than him who is listed at 70 tons.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
It says Box can lift 40 tons. So yea Sasquatch is stronger than him who is listed at 70 tons.

No that's the first Box, Box v.2-Box v.4 can lift 85 tons

1. http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c365/A_Flight4/ME2-069_Box.jpg

Stats:
1. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c133/A_Flight3/ME2-240.jpg

Bio:
1. http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/b/boxi.htm
2. http://www.alphaflight.net/character_overviews/roger_bochs/

is there a net version of HOMH?

No on the lists comes even close but if you threw in Martian Manhunter then he'd win Super-Man level strength with telepathy.