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peak humans with no special abilities or powers or super senses or ne of that sort, or had something given to them that enhanced them physically or mentally


gimme some names, all i know is like Batman and The Punisher

Green Arrow, Nightwing, Robin.

Grendl
Shang Chi
The original Vigilante
Tim Drake
Dick Grayson
Blue Beatle
Ozzymandius
Kazar
Tarzan
Conan

Conan comes out top imo

Marvel dont really have complete Human heroes like DC does.

Captain,Batman,Black Panther,Bat girl.

Captain America took the Serum. Black Panther has a special Herb that gives him enhanced abilities.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Marvel dont really have complete Human heroes like DC does.

They have Shang Chi and they killed Hawkeye -

I forgot a few classiccs Doc Savage has to be there

Originally posted by Ron Jeremy
They have Shang Chi and they killed Hawkeye -

I forgot a few classiccs Doc Savage has to be there I thought Hawkeye had some special vision powers?

Originally posted by snoopdogg
I thought Hawkeye had some special vision powers?
not originally who knows what they did to him before he "died"

We cant count Nick Fury cause he took a version of the Super Soldier Serum.

Ironfist?

How can you list robin and nightwing but not batman!

Originally posted by Arahan
Ironfist? not exactly he has the"heart of the dragon"

Originally posted by Hegemon875
How can you list robin and nightwing but not batman!
he had already been listed by the thread starter

All the infinity serum does to nick is stop him from ageing.

I think he can count.

Originally posted by Ron Jeremy
he had already been listed by the thread starter

doh

Karate kid hands down.

Originally posted by Maestro
Karate kid hands down.

Yes but - he has "Super Karate" a plot device that is really like Super Powers - I know he has no powers but........ his Super Karate is like a power its ludicrous he can take on Mon el with it

In no particular order:

Conan
Tarzan
Marv
The Russian
Kingpin
Nightwing
Elektra
Shang Chi
Blue Beetle
Green Arrow


These are some off the top of my head, I might think about it more later.

Bulls eye, what does he have? And does Dare Devil count?

I would argue that Frank has the best pain tolerance out of any human characters...

Originally posted by jollyjim311
Bulls eye, what does he have?Adamantium spine.

Originally posted by jollyjim311
And does Dare Devil count? Radar and enhanced senses. . .

Punisher is Marvel's top peak human. A lot of his enemies don't comeback or keep on escaping from insane asylums. shifty

Shang Chi up there as well. He has surprised Spider Man with his speed(getting him in a choke hold)

Elektra is tough as well.

Taskmaster maybe. But I think is ability to copy people's movement make him null and void for this list.

Oh, can't forget conan. By Crom!!!

Huntress.

Using guns: Punisher
Not using guns: Conan

I think Elektra is enhanced somehow.

didn't she like become like Psylocke-TK?

BRUCE LEE

Jackie Chan

lol u cant realy reach true peak human with out being given some thing. like all these guys like green arrow and hawk eye can lift twice there own body wieght but they still aint as strong as captain and never will be.

I think we can include cap and black panther because they are not superhuman, They are the best you can be and still be human.

Originally posted by house
I think we can include cap and black panther because they are not superhuman, They are the best you can be and still be human.

no dude, read the thread cap, DD, and BP dont count they were enhanced by something that boosted them physically

Originally posted by braz
no dude, read the thread cap, DD, and BP dont count they were enhanced by something that boosted them physically

Actually Daredevil isnt boosted physically in any way.

Yes he does have enhanced senses, but his agility, stamina, strength, fighting skills, speed, intelligence is all due to him training/studying/working out.

Cap, Fury, BP, DS, abilities have been enhanced. Not Daredevil's.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Actually Daredevil isnt boosted physically in any way.

Yes he does have enhanced senses, but his agility, stamina, strength, fighting skills, speed, intelligence is all due to him training/studying/working out.

Cap, Fury, BP, DS, abilities have been enhanced. Not Daredevil's.

Originally posted by braz
peak humans with no special abilities or powers or super senses

Fury's syrem does not enhance him, it just retards the ageing process.

Hahah, retards...

Anyhoo...

Is Arsenal enhanced?

Conan's gotta be the coolest, if he is at a range disadvantage. Hawkeye's up there, cuz supersight doesn't freaking count. Daredevil is also peak human, cuz since when does it include senses? (yes, I know its in the thread... but I don't really see why) I can see ruling out guys who got to the level physically with outside agents, but there are many guys way above physical peak human with normal human senses, and vice versa. I don't see how smelling good makes someone stronger or faster...

Super Karate>= Power Cosmic

Blob

batman, hawkeye, nightwing, wolverine, green arrow, captain america,

Did you read the premise?

No muties.

WOlverine is not peak human.Enhanced agility,reflexes,strenght,healing factor,admantium,senses...

How bout that guy Sand from the JSA?

oh whoops, well even if he is a mutie, wolverine's still peak human level

Captain America

(Oh on a side note , whenever i See Cap America the Team America song runs through my brain)

Is it not cool to list villians?

What about Fu Man Chu, Merlin (the archer), Lady Shiva?

Richard Dragon, the Question and Bronze Tiger should all be included too.

Hawkeye death
Batman
Robin
Nightwing
Doc Savage
Shang Chi
Blue Beetle
Conan
Kazar
Shanna drool

Captain America should be first on every list, and followed by bruce wayne.

Originally posted by King KAM
Captain America should be first on every list, and followed by bruce wayne. Cap should not even be on the list due to the super soldier serum.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Cap should not even be on the list due to the super soldier serum.
very very debatable, i partially agree

Originally posted by King KAM
very very debatable, i partially agree But before the serum he was small...punisher has an almost superhuman tolerance for pain...

Originally posted by jgiant
But before the serum he was small...punisher has an almost superhuman tolerance for pain...
punisher is a tough S.O.B

(Trying to just list those not already mentioned)
Catwoman
Black Cat
Raptor
Scarlet Spider II (Felicity)
Lara Croft
Magdelena
Kingpin

Originally posted by Next Venom_girl
(Trying to just list those not already mentioned)
Catwoman
Black Cat
Raptor
Scarlet Spider II (Felicity)
Lara Croft
Magdelena
Kingpin not peak humans, just really good.

Punisher and Batman are at the top. No magic elixers, no mutant powers... simply peak human.

what about Zealot?and Grifter? and don't forget Natasha Rominov, a.k.a, the Black Widow

Batman
Punisher
Wildcat
Catman
Bullseye
Nightwing
Green Arrow
Conner Hawke
Elektra

None are in any real order

Kevin & Marv (from Sin City)
Classic Mantis - She took martial arts as far as you could go without crossing over to Karate Kid silliness.
Ibn al Xufrash

I'll second Ozymandiaz and suggest that he deserves the #1 spot.

Originally posted by armandovalles
Hawkeye death
Batman
Robin
Nightwing
Doc Savage
Shang Chi
Blue Beetle
Conan
Kazar
Shanna drool
shang- chi should not be stated due to the fact he can give him self superhuman abilities by using his chi

what about Jason Todd aka Red Hood?

Yes indeed, Ozymandius #1! Now how about some villians?

Originally posted by MERCILOUS
Yes indeed, Ozymandiaz #1! Now how about some villians?

Batroc the Leaper.
Steel Serpent
Somebody said Lady Shiva, right?
Cat Man (when he's not fat).
That Eastern European hit-man from Kevin Smith's Green Arrow run.
Crossbones

what bout the Tick,and Arthur?

jesse custer