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Time and again I'm tripping over all the various Superman clones in the versus forum; often fighting one another. Some of them verge on silly and ridiculous, others are worthy study for a different idea of the character. Help me out; let's see a comprehensive list of every one of them, from every company, and compare. Basic requirements: humanoid (mostly), super-strength and endurance, and flight. Energy projection is optional.

Red Lotus?

Supreme
Gladiator
Hyperion
Last Son of Krypton
Supergirl
Superboy
Majestic
Goku
Sentry
Bizarro
Cyborg

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Supreme
Gladiator
Hyperion
Last Son of Krypton
Supergirl
Superboy
Majestic
Goku
Sentry
Bizarro
Cyborg

Mon el
Vallor
Duplicate Boy
IKON

captain marvel(dc)
sentry
gladiator
apollo
hyperion
captain mar-vell(because of the whole absorbing sunlight thing)
theirs more but cant think of them right now

and steele for having the s on his chest

the thing is... though most of those guys have similar powers to Superman (which is to be expected since he has most of the best powers going) hardly any of them share any character aspects in common with Superman

Originally posted by Scoobless
the thing is... though most of those guys have similar powers to Superman (which is to be expected since he has most of the best powers going) hardly any of them share any character aspects in common with Superman

trueish

Originally posted by Scoobless
the thing is... though most of those guys have similar powers to Superman (which is to be expected since he has most of the best powers going) hardly any of them share any character aspects in common with Superman

Thats what truly sets Supes apart from all his "clones."

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Thats what truly sets Supes apart from all his "clones." That he's vaguely annoying..

Originally posted by roughrider
Basic requirements: humanoid (mostly), super-strength and endurance, and flight. Energy projection is optional.
Not very strict requirements. I can say The Spectre is a Supes clone.

There's Hyperion I, II, and III right?

And all the various, alternate versions through DC - Red Son, Apokolips-raised, Superman 1 million, Kingdom Come...

Originally posted by The Ion
Not very strict requirements. I can say The Spectre is a Supes clone.

How?

He's humanoid (99% of the time), has super strength and durability and can fly.

Spectre looks human, but is an ethreal spirit; magic powers his might, and can just wish something out of existence.

Doesn't matter. He's humanoid, has super strength and durability and the power of flight. Furthermore Captain Atom, Galactus and his heralds, The Beyonder, Magneto, Triumph, Martian Manhunter and Green Lantern are Supes clones too.

And yes, I'm being a jerk.

Originally posted by Fianna
That he's vaguely annoying..

No more annoying than half of his corny ripoffs.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Thats what truly sets Supes apart from all his "clones."

i'd have said it's what seperates them from him.... he's far less interesting than the people you consider to be his "clones"

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
No more annoying than half of his corny ripoffs. True..but you could say that comic book characters are all a rip off of each other because they have super powers, use them and generally have a double life..

Originally posted by Scoobless
i'd have said it's what seperates them from him.... he's far less interesting than the people you consider to be his "clones"

We all have our opinions..but obviously he's far more interesting if he can do things like keep up a couple of monthly books, a successful tv show and movie coming out. His clones have neither.

So much for his clones.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
We all have our opinions..but obviously he's far more interesting if he can do things like keep up a couple of monthly books, a successful tv show and movie coming out. His clones have neither.

So much for his clones.

maybe if their images were force fed to kids before they learn to speak they'd have equal sales

Originally posted by Scoobless
maybe if their images were force fed to kids before they learn to speak they'd have equal sales



Boo hoo. My characters not as popular, so now lets whine about Supes being forcefed to kids!

And yes, we can all use the eye rolling smiley.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Boo hoo. My characters not as popular, so now lets whine about Supes being forcefed to kids!

And yes, we can all use the eye rolling smiley.

yes we can.... but who is it you think "my character" is exactly?




you do realise that you're the one who brought up the point of popularity though... as if being popular makes a character better

and i didn't whine ... i just pointed out a fact.... why are you taking this personally?

Some of Superman's clones seem to outclass him though.

Originally posted by Scoobless
yes we can.... but who is it you think "my character" is exactly?




you do realise that you're the one who brought up the point of popularity though... as if being popular makes a character better

and i didn't whine ... i just pointed out a fact.... why are you taking this personally?

Relax, I'm messing around as much as you are. (At least I hope ur just fooling around.)
x infinity

And its not just popularity. To maintain that many things happening at once, you have to be pretty damn interesting.

every super strong super hero ever is a superman clone.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
To maintain that many things happening at once, you have to be pretty damn interesting.

then explain Wolverine....

Originally posted by Scoobless
then explain Wolverine....

Some things defy the laws of nature.

Originally posted by TwisterGameX
every super strong super hero ever is a superman clone.

No. Thor, Hulk, Silver Surfer, Spiderman are among many that have little or no resemblence to the big S.

No one has mentioned Wonder Man yet, so I will.

Originally posted by The Ion
And yes, I'm being a jerk. That may be so, but you have a point. These requirements are a bit lax.

Classic Rouge, Wonder Woman, Ms Marvel, also fit the given requirments. As does Namor. . .

Originally posted by roughrider
No. Thor, Hulk, Silver Surfer, Spiderman are among many that have little or no resemblence to the big S.

No one has mentioned Wonder Man yet, so I will.

Spiderman is not super strong. Hulk is a mad superman with only one power.

Originally posted by TwisterGameX
Spiderman is not super strong.

Originally posted by The Ion
Doesn't matter. He's humanoid, has super strength and durability and the power of flight. Furthermore Captain Atom, Galactus and his heralds, The Beyonder, Magneto, Triumph, Martian Manhunter and Green Lantern are Supes clones too.

And yes, I'm being a jerk.

Green Lantern and Magneto have super-strength? I never knew that!
Galactus has zero in common with Superman. Martian Manhunter is about as humanoid as Beta Ray Bill, who also is no Supes clone.

Originally posted by roughrider
No. Thor, Hulk, Silver Surfer, Spiderman are among many that have little or no resemblence to the big S.

No one has mentioned Wonder Man yet, so I will.

Oh my gosh... I'm one of the biggest Wonder Man fanboys out there and I didn't even mention him. Props to you Roughrider for mentioning him.

Wonder Man has practically all the abilities Supes has, except he's powered by continuous self generating ionic energy. Superman lite to be exact. He CAN shoot beams from his eyes. He can fly. The more focused or angry he is, the higher all his physical attributes grow, similar to that of the Hulk. He as the potential to become everything Count Nefaria is if he learns to utilize his powers efficiently. He can alter his size similar to what Atlas does but can't use as long as Atlas does or it'll make him crazy. Oh, he's also immortal. He's called himself earth's immortal protector at least once. It's also theorized(Not proven yet), that if he is killed, or obliterated, his body will reform over time due to ions being everywhere and anywhere.

Oh, Count Nefaria also seems to be a clone of Superman as well.

I will try to be even more specific here, because some people have taken the tack that every super-powered character is somehow a clone of Superman, because he was arguebly the first.
Beyond some similar abilities, there is the image of being well-groomed, photogenic, carrying an air of majesty, and the atitude of a straight arrow, wanting to serve the common good, feeling tied to society. Confident but not arrogant - not one for bad-ass I-do-it-my-way tactics.

Well Batman is a Superman clone with no powers....thats like if Superman is under the red sun.

Originally posted by Adam Warlock
Oh my gosh... I'm one of the biggest Wonder Man fanboys out there and I didn't even mention him. Props to you Roughrider for mentioning him.

Wonder Man has practically all the abilities Supes has, except he's powered by continuous self generating ionic energy. Superman lite to be exact. He CAN shoot beams from his eyes. He can fly. The more focused or angry he is, the higher all his physical attributes grow, similar to that of the Hulk. He as the potential to become everything Count Nefaria is if he learns to utilize his powers efficiently. He can alter his size similar to what Atlas does but can't use as long as Atlas does or it'll make him crazy. Oh, he's also immortal. He's called himself earth's immortal protector at least once. It's also theorized(Not proven yet), that if he is killed, or obliterated, his body will reform over time due to ions being everywhere and anywhere.

Oh, Count Nefaria also seems to be a clone of Superman as well.

Simon's been killed before, hasn't he? And he pulled himself together again?

Count Nefaria: When is the last time we heard from him?

Originally posted by TwisterGameX
Well Batman is a Superman clone with no powers....thats like if Superman is under the red sun.

No...the two of them are like reflections in a broken mirror. DC plays up this duality by having Clark and Bruce look almost exactly alike. But Clark is sunny and optimistic, and by the book. Bruce is angry, repressed and distrustful of most authority, and looks at Clark as a well-meaning but naive and overpowered amateur. Clark thinks Bruce shouldn't be so embittered all the time.

Originally posted by roughrider
Simon's been killed before, hasn't he? And he pulled himself together again?

Count Nefaria: When is the last time we heard from him?


Yeah Simon has died at least a couple of times before. He supposedly died when shortly after him betraying Zemo since the side effects of the ionic treatment was that he would die within a week. But he was in a coma of sorts that rendered his body inactive. His other death was accredited to a blast from a Kree Ion Cannon. The resulted explosion of pure ionic force practically disintegrated him. But his soul refused to go to the afterlife because at that time, he was in love with Scarlet Witch. Scarlet Witch supposedly brought him back to life. Nefaria has been been blown up before after the battle with the Avengers and Thunderbolts, he was leaking ionic energy due to the ionic lock gun, and he practically exploded just as he flew out of our atmosphere. Yet, there he was on the Raft. WM, Nefaria, and possibly Atlas might have the ability to reform themselves after death.

Count Nefaria was one of the prisoners that got away from the Raft in the New Avengers. I think a showdown between Nefaria and The Sentry is inevitable.

Originally posted by Scoobless
the thing is... though most of those guys have similar powers to Superman (which is to be expected since he has most of the best powers going) hardly any of them share any character aspects in common with Superman
Yeah, it's not because you have a cape, can fly and are pretty strong, you are a Super-Man clone.

We have a Superman forum that noone uses

Captain Planet.

Count Nefaria sucks he should not be a Supermanc lone because Count Nefaria got his ass killed by Iron Man wich Superman can rip in half with no problem.

Originally posted by Adam Warlock
WM, Nefaria, and possibly Atlas might have the ability to reform themselves after death.


Atlas already reformed...Using Dallas Riordan as an anchor...but unlike Simon, he melted with her (before being separated while returning fro counter earth)...but all this was during the crappiest moments of the T-bolts : when Nicieza wrote it ...by the way, the ionic Atlas was a super-clone too (with a "A" instead of the "S"

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"every super strong super hero ever is a superman clone"

Wrong. I can name at least five that predate Superman.

Heracles
Thor
Samson
Gilgamesh
Beowulf

"Spiderman is not super strong"

Not to the level of Superman but super strong nonethless. What do you call someone who picks up cars with ease and subway trains?

"Hulk is a mad superman with only one power"

Hulk is a take on Jekil and Hide (also superstrong). The madder with rage is a take from Heracles myths. It belonged to him.

"Well Batman is a Superman clone with no powers....thats like if Superman is under the red sun"

More like a Zorro/Phantom rip off.

Originally posted by Fanboy
Count Nefaria sucks he should not be a Supermanc lone because Count Nefaria got his ass killed by Iron Man wich Superman can rip in half with no problem.

A full power Nefaria would outright own post crisis Superman.

Look at Nefaria laughing at the Mjolnir:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/nefaria34ob.jpg

Look at Superman screaming in pain from the Mjolnir:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/030904.jpg

Supes was not laughing...

He was too busy bleeding for that.

Glads is by far the best clone, with the most potential IMO.

He really needs his own mini...We barely know anything at all about his origin...

Capttain Marvel was the 1st Superman clone.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Capttain Marvel was the 1st Superman clone.

And it sucks what happened. These days, no one would get sued for copyright for reasons like that; they are not THAT much alike, compared to many of the others.
And for the entire 1940's, Marvel was outselling Superman, and was the most popular superhero comic in America. Not bad for a so-called clone.